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10:00 AM
@thecoshman It's a "standards- or measurement-related article".
@MarkGarcia FWIW, that's just one of the weird ones currently in use. Historically there were way crazier ones. Amsterdam used to have +0:19:32.13, until sometime before WW2, when they changed to +0:20. Then Hitler came over and fixed it to +1:00 and they never changed back.
(Hitler is the reason going South from the UK requires adding one hour to your clocks)
 
yay Hitler?
 
The Third Reich used Berlin Time all over, and AFAIK none of the previously occupied European countries changed back after the war.
 
Xeo
Jun 12 '11 at 12:34, by DeadMG
lunchtime! nom nomsies
aah, the time when DeadMG was happy to eat
and the Robot wasn't yet the robot
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes maybe that was the German's ultimate goal
 
Hitler also co-founded Volkswagon
Irony
 
10:09 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah, makes sense.
 
@Xeo Gosh that was a long time ago.
in fact just today I skipped breakfast because sickness.
 
Xeo
And Tony was still a Tiger
 
Today I skipped breakfast because I always do.
 
you suck, man.
 
Xeo
Same
 
user1804599
10:12 AM
you suck men.
 
I just got up and I'm making pizza for breakfast :D
 
Xeo
And I sometimes skip lunch too
and sometimes even dinner
 
you both suck.
 
Xeo
because I'm too lazy
 
I still have some sort of regular morning sickness and the thought of ingesting food doesn't help there.
 
10:12 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes you monster :O
 
ah
maybe I'll forgive you in this case then
 
user1804599
Hmm.
 
all I'm saying is
 
Aug 6 '12 at 16:43, by R. Martinho Fernandes
I think I'm pregnant or something. I've been feeling morning sickness.
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked I will convince my coworkers to go eat pizza for lunch today instead of bread.
 
user1804599
10:13 AM
Or perhaps friet.
 
still?
well
not that I don't sympathize with medical care for gut issues being problematic...
did I mention that my doctors want to remove my internal organs because they've got no better ideas?
 
@rightfold Thursday is frietjes day at my place :)
 
user1804599
Nice!
 
Xeo
@DeadMG No organs, no problems!
 
@DeadMG I... haven't been to the doctor.
 
10:14 AM
lol
@R.MartinhoFernandes ... wat.
 
user1804599
 
@DeadMG It's only minimally annoying!
 
@rightfold it looks organic
 
okay
well let me tell you something
it's only minimally annoying for now.
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked Zwijg, jij drankorgel.
 
10:15 AM
but I learned the hard way that it can get a lot worse very suddenly
and when it does, you really want the doctor to already have some idea in mind.
else, you can be fucked.
 
Xeo
Many people have some kind of morning sickness
 
so take the advice of someone who's been here for way too long and go see the doctor
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you've peed on a stick though, right? just to make sure
 
then you can get through the useless crap earlier
 
Xeo
my mother has it, so unless she has been awake long enough, she won't eat breakfast
 
10:16 AM
@MarkGarcia Nobody incriminated you
@rightfold your organ is nice
 
@DeadMG Doctors are for wusses.
 
you won't be saying that when it stops being morning sickness and starts being all the time sickness.
 
@sehe Yeah... I somehow have assumed. :P
 
I'm not sick until I observe it, right?
 
hello I am new to C++ but I know Java can you suggest me quick and easy resources to learn C++
 
10:21 AM
Java knowledge won't help you in the slightest.
they're completely different in basically every meaningful aspect.
 
^ Unlearn Java.
 
@MahmoudHashim get a damn good good book.
 
@DeadMG morning sickness often indicates pregnancy
 
@MahmoudHashim The same resources we suggest everyone else: stackoverflow.com/questions/388242/…. Previous knowledge of Java is mostly useless for learning C++.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no silly, you are both sick and not sick until you observe it
 
10:22 AM
@thecoshman suggest then
 
@sehe so it's better visit the doctor before it turns into pregnancy?
 
I dunno. Some people like to be pregnant.
 
Male parthenogenesis?
2
That would be awesome.
 
it's unlikely you'd survive
 
I need to learn C++ for the sake that I want to develop a game with Cocos2d-x
 
10:23 AM
@DeadMG Or survive but forever lose you manhood, which is worse.
 
@MahmoudHashim irrelevant
 
@ScottW Like a real man!
 
What is the problem with you guys
 
@MarkGarcia If I get boobs, I might be okay with it.
 
@MahmoudHashim lol
 
10:25 AM
@MahmoudHashim What problem?
 
we are a problem?
 
yes you are ]
 
Did you check The Definitive C++ Book Guide and List that was linked above?
 
all of you
 
You could be checking it instead of flaming us.
 
10:26 AM
That's pretty mean.
 
This channel is sometimes a bit hostile to non-regulars.
 
get lost damen
 
@VáclavZeman Because you never get a return on your investment.
 
@MahmoudHashim: Use the list that of books @R.MartinhoFernandes has given you.
 
they tend to pop in, ask you for help, and then fuck off instead of helping you back.
 
10:27 AM
@VáclavZeman At least now it's just mostly ignoring him.
 
@DeadMG I have been on #C++ on three different IRC networks for years and I have been helping these kind of people all the time. I do not see what kind of investment you are supposedly making.
 
How do you pronounce your name?
Oh, Czech has very little vowel variety.
Five short, five long.
 
Just like POSIX
 
You're a native English speaker.
You guys turn everything into schwas.
 
omg, robor, maybe you are drugged by your roommates ... do you have stuff left in the kitchen where they can slip in GHB in your drinks?
 
10:33 AM
@VáclavZeman I don't recall suggesting that you were not a regular.
a.k.a. wilx
 
@ScottW that looks like a surprised Japanese person
 
So, it's /not/ a "hello world" app then :). I'll have a look later. — sehe 3 mins ago
I'm pretty sure that a program must somehow include the text "Hello world" or obviously related text to qualify as "Hello world program"
 
@DeadMG I was not suggesting that you were suggesting anything. I was merely stating observable. ;)
 
@VáclavZeman Yes. Confirmed regular. Even stalking my twitter feed :) (I'll reply later)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Like this.
 
10:43 AM
~_~
 
Ah, so I got it right :) /'va:t͡slav 'zɛ:man/
Thanks wikipedia.
Was unsure about <c> being /t͡s/ or /d͡z/, though.
Damn keyboard.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yup.
 
@MahmoudHashim well fuck you too
 
@VáclavZeman How do you tell how to pronounce <c>? Do you have to just know the word, or is there some rule?
Oh, wikipedia has rules.
 
10:46 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes o_0 what word? It's the letter 'c' :S
 
@thecoshman So what?
 
@thecoshman the c in Václav
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well, the letter has both a name and a sound... and then you throw other letters at it, and all sorts of noises come out :S
 
@thecoshman I am confident in the way I expressed it :P In phonetics <> are used to denote spelling, so I'm obviously not referring to the letter name.
 
10:49 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmm, I think that in theory <c> is single distinct sound. But in spoken language it often gets distorted into <ts>. IANAL where L = linguist. The <c> sounds pretty much the same in all native Czech words. Assuming you really mean just <c> and not <č>, which is different sound altogether.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes vOv I have no idea what you are on about :P
 
@ScottW are you going to buy virtual reality glasses? then I would look like a supermodel
 
@thecoshman That's what I said :P
 
but yeah, 'see' or 'kuh' (I know IPA is tasty, that is all)
 
@telkitty.exe you appear to be having some unrealistic spectacles expectations there
 
10:51 AM
@thecoshman Also, we were talking about Czech, btw.
 
Ah, the Zchechens again. Crimea river
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well then it is wrong :P
 
@ScottW are you saying that only because tony is not going over?
speaking of which, where is the lion? ... didn't he go on a date with the pi dude?
then he disappeared ... how suspicious ...
~_~
off jogging
 
@VáclavZeman Yeah, I know it's one single consonant; that's what the curved bar above the letters means. Wikipedia mentions that it can be voiceless or voiced (/t͡s/ or /d͡z/). I wonder if you as a native speaker find it hard to tell the difference but can produce it subconsciously, or if the voiced form is very rare. I wish I knew a sample Czech word with the voiced variant to ask you ;)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmmm, I guess I will have to do some research into my own native language to understand what you actually want. :)
 
11:00 AM
I think "c" (/ts/) is always voiceless
But I am not a native Czech speaker
 
mɔʁwɛn
 
@ScottW My programmer programming causes me to be endlessly curious about such things.
 
@ScottW Yes
 
@VáclavZeman Oh btw, the "nh" in my name is like "ň" in Czech.
 
And also sing your national anthem on the record
 
11:07 AM
@CatPlusPlus You think that would be safe to hear without getting a tinitus? ;-)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I see.
 
you're supposed to be wilx goddammit :(
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Well, I have actually tried to rename myself back after a while but I apparently can change name only once every 30 days or such.
 
indeed
and they closed the loophole that allowed us to get around that by changing it "network-wide" from a different SE site
 
@VáclavZeman FTR, I'm not a linguist either. I'm curious about it and I have two friends that are actually linguists, but that's it.
 
11:21 AM
ow my guts.
 
11:44 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes curious how you think you pronounce my name :P
 
today a teammate used my library to get some stuff done quickly
for some reason, it was the most fulfilling feeling I've had in some time :D
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it is curious stuff alright. I find it funny how we are all built the same, but culture seems to shape what sounsd we can make.
 
@AlexM. - Always feels great knowing your work is helping others. What library is it?
 
@jawrainey inb4 - the library where the teammate has just reported a pageful of bugs.
 
@jawrainey it's something I developed at work to make common game features easier to set up and work with (i.e. high scores, custom UI effects, resolution independence stuff and so on)
 
11:51 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes As for the voiced <c> ([d͡z]), it appears it is not native to Czech; it is seemingly used only in foreign words.
 
@thecosh Correctly!
@Vàclav thanks!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes huh?
oh, phone?
 
Yeah. Going for lunch now.
 
morning all
 
user1804599
@ScottW //
 
Xeo
12:00 PM
nom nom cake
 
you wanker
it's been ages since I nom nomed any tasty cake.
 
user1804599
Speaking of cake.
 
user1804599
I should try a good spacecake.
 
it's a lie, dude
 
:(
I hate you with the fire of a thousand suns
 
user1804599
I always eat that kind of cake with a fork. :v
 
I eat most cake with a fork.
I'm civilised.
 
user1804599
Fork you!
 
Xeo
We don't have cake forks here. Or at least I didn't find one.
 
12:23 PM
I usually use my fingers
 
user1804599
@DeadMG You're almost as primitive as Java is.
 
how is a cake fork different to a normal fork?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes You're a robot, you have no need for cake in the first place.
 
@Xeo as if humans had.
 
user1804599
12:25 PM
I eat cake with a harpoon.
 
@DeadMG My cake forks also have four fingers and an opposable thumb. Sadly, I have two such forks and no actual cake ATM.
 
@Xeo dafuq is that, some kind of knife/fork combo?
 
Xeo
It's a cake fork
 
user1804599
No.
 
user1804599
It's a cake fork.
 
12:31 PM
Fuck forks - where's my cake?
 
@DeadMG a bit like that, yes. the reinforced prong is used to cut the cake
 
user1804599
@MartinJames on my fork
 
user1804599
I'd also rather not fuck forks.
 
Xeo
@MartinJames You can have a cake, but you can't eat it.
 
12:33 PM
I can't even go buy cake. Anne has gone out and my own car is still being de-badgered.
 
@MartinJames content yourself with some cookies :-)
@MartinJames so go by foot/bike?
 
Aarghh! I have no cookies either!
 
Xeo
@MartinJames Perfect chance to walk the dog!
 
user1804599
 
Martin: Bailey, have you eaten the last cookie?
Oo walk, not talk ...
 
12:36 PM
@Xeo The nearest shop is 2km away and, no, I'm not taking Bailey into any shop where there is food. I suppose I could hitch him up to the bus-stop temporarily.
 
Xeo
@MartinJames 2km is a good walking distance :)
 
says the cripple ...
 
@MartinJames almost any website will be glad to provide you with more than enough cookies :D
 
Fuck forks. Spatulas are the thing. Also, this one is for @R.MartinhoFernandes: (also: filename.png)
 
@Xeo There are problems. If I go by the road, there is a stretch with no pavement/sidewalk, so dangerous with a dog. There is an old path that bypasses the dangerous stretch, but it's flooded with mud. I can't take Bailey aross the fields because of stiles/gates.
MEH! I WANT MY CAR BACK!
 
Xeo
12:39 PM
No cake for you, I guess
 
I'm gonna take the kitchen apart until I find something.
 
@sehe well, you can swap the objects and still be accurate - don't swim with scissors, don't run with knives and don't duel with hungry bears ...
 
@MartinJames can't you leave the dog and go alone? Or will he take the kitchen apart if you do so?
 
OK, I found a packet of 'Mini milk chocolate fingers'. I'm pretty sure they were not for me. I'm eating them anyway.

I may be in trouble later.
 
@MartinJames do you have flour, eggs, ...?
 
12:45 PM
@ArneMertz I don't want to wait for baking - want now:)
 
@MartinJames then text Anne "When you come home, could you bring some ...?" :D
 
people sometimes buy food and forget about them
I know I do all the times
 
@ArneMertz I tried texting earlier for something else. I heard a 'text received' squeak from downstairs. Anne's phone is on top of the TVserver, charging up on USB.
 
Xeo
brilliant
 
@Xeo Yeah, I know. Anne has never quite understood the 'mobile' part of the phrase 'mobile phone'.
 
12:55 PM
text her anyways - if she troubles you about having eaten the "Minimilk"s you can still tell her you texted her - not your fault she leaves her phone at home :P
 
Bah, I try to order from a different place than usual ones and what do I get? "Your order has been cancelled" blah blah
 
So, I'm stuck here with no cake and the most gruesome protocol ever designed. I have to document it. The data struct has gaps in it here an there, filled with nulls. The gaps are there to ensure data alignment with a unionised structure in a peripheral device, ie. the data in the protocol unit is effectively overlaid on top of data local to the peripheral device.

You can imagine how enamoured I am with such a shitocol:(
 
sounds like lots of fun :-)
 
Sucks to be you
Also I guess I have to pick food again
This is hard
 
The worst is that, if I update the hardware, it's going to have to be backwards-compatible, so I'm stuck with the stupidocol for ever.
 
12:58 PM
For once I am not hungry ...
 
I'm crawling through shitloads of spaghetti code and that damn MSAccess DB trying to find out why something does not happen in the program under certain circumstances...
 
still better than me ... I am quoting for a potential app contract that I might never get ...
but since it is a invitation to quote, I kind have to do it :/
 
@telkitty.exe thanks for that
 
Oh - I forgot - on top of everything else, there is also a CRC that I took pains to assemble correctly, then found out it is never checked at the peer.
 
but you are not hungry ... are you??
 
1:02 PM
Breaking routine is a terrible, terrible idea
 
@telkitty.exe Not now. Also, I will at least get paid for this protocol crap, unlike some other devs. doing quote requests:)
 
user1804599
CSS y u no glob syntax.
 
Quoting things takes a lot of work yes
 
@CatPlusPlus I hate them, especially if you know you have next-to-no chance of getting the contract anyway.
 
user1804599
More like fooBar, fooBaz vs foo{Bar,Baz}.
 
1:05 PM
It is more like "here is a set price and tight time line, let us know how much you can accomplish with said time and budget with this set objective", the core objective has to be accomplished, the other adds bonus .. with 20+ pages extra information of the existing data, current system usage etc
 
> CSS
 
@telkitty.exe Yeah - like that's easy:( It's a pity that cost-plus contracts have gone out of favour.
 
What you should be getting out of it is "being a freelancer is shit why are you doing it"
I only ever quote in hours
 
It is a very interesting project - if it was 2 years earlier I would have done it as a hobby
also this is a project to padding out the 3-4 month during which I can not work full time because the extra 2 things on the side?
 
> (...) Latin, which had hardly finished tossing out the Greek letters it didn't think it needed when it started to borrow Greek words that needed them
4
 
user1804599
1:19 PM
The Latin alphabet is getting boring.
 
the purpose of an alphabet is not to entertain
 
The things you learn in the lounge
 
inorite amazing facts
 
#woah
 
#whoa
 
Xeo
1:22 PM
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Now with 300% more amazing facts loungecpp.net [facts] [facts] [facts]
 
Why is DS2 not out for another month
Wasn't it developed PC-first idgi
 
@Xeo Missing one tag.
 
Xeo
Oh, the tags were not meant to reflect the increase in amazingness
 
Unless you mean that before we had 0.75 facts.
 
Xeo
1:24 PM
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Now with 300% more amazing facts loungecpp.net [facts] [facts] [facts] [facts]
nitpicking
 
user1804599
This is Java, not Go. Besides, Go has a sort package and you should not implement the algorithm yourself. — rightfold 30 secs ago
 
user1804599
The guy must be very drunk.
 
:lol: bubblesort
Also DS2 trailers have more of the "console version has worse graphics???" people in comments
Here's a species that will never go extinct
 
@user3115083 Ahahah. I reproduced it and worked around it. I was on the right track with that last hunch: " can IO be blocking? In particular do you log the timestamps to an actual console or to a file/pipe? Could the output pipe be blocking the timer thread?". Cheers. — sehe 21 secs ago
Qt, what are you doing with stdout?
 
@Rapptz So, I've stumbled on this old article. It'll probably get a few laughs out of you.
 
Xeo
1:44 PM
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Q: Why is haskell unable to read "7e7" but able to read "7a7

romeovsTry to do: Prelude> reads "7a7" :: [(Int, String)] [(7,"a7")] Prelude> reads "7e7" :: [(Int, String)] [] I tested this for all possible characters in the middle. They all work except for 'e'. It seems as if haskell tries to interpret the number in scientific notation but can't because I'm as...

huh
 
@EtiennedeMartel HN is so hilarious.
 
Pizza and bacon spaghetti :getin:
HN is worse than /r/programming
And that's a feat
Also I'd implement hellbanning just for funny posts like that
> I can only compare it to that of root kit viruses and malicious sites that infect your computer.
I managed to get sauce on my freshly cleaned white shirt
I'm the worst
 
		public void flush() throws IOException {
			super.flush();
Java SuperFlush™
 
lol
 
awesome, I am currently owing $3800 on my credit card ... totally down from $6500 a year ago :p
I pay credit card in full every month though
 
1:58 PM
well there was someone who said Java's logo looks like a toilet bowl with smelly shit in it
so SuperFlush makes sense
 
eh
not really.
 
@Xeo That's fucked up. Right there in the spec.
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Solution: Don't have white shirts.
 

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