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12:00 AM
k nap time.
 
Adjective for something that you're trying to catch but repeatedly escapes your grasp over and over again?
 
slippery
the normal English expression is slippery as a fish or someshit like that
 
elusive
 
elusive implies that the thing you're trying to catch is actively eluding you, I believe.
but there's not a great difference.
 
Are fish not?
 
12:05 AM
they are; but not everything described in that way is.
anyway, elusive is probably a better fit in general.
 
12:42 AM
Selfie ~ Selfish
 
1:30 AM
-1
A: Storing Address of a character to an Integer Pointer

Lightness Races in OrbitBecause types exist. If this were allowed: char x = '!'; int* ptr = &x; then the type of *ptr would be int, which is wrong because the pointer is pointing to a char, not an int.

why the downvote :(
 
the real question is, why are you still in the Lounge at 1:30 on a work morning? :P
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I found it slightly confusing because you're referring to whats pointed to by ptr as *ptr (which I missed on my first read and so the sentence made no sence to me)
 
@Borgleader Yet, that's precisely what it is!
 
I'm not saying it isn't, I'm saying maybe whoever downvoted you was also confused, didn't bother to re-read it and just downvoted.
 
idiots!
This answer is a brilliant one. Those who voted down will understand its value in future.
 
1:39 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit bwaha you got -1
 
bah
nothing is more boring than waiting to sleep.
 
You may find it difficult to sleep if you're staring at the Lounge.
Conversely, I'm falling asleep here. Suppose I should migrate to bed so that the process may complete.
 
I'll find it even harder to sleep if I lie down and set my guts off
 
That sounds like shit
 
yep
gotta wait till like 02:30 at least before even trying.
 
1:45 AM
A real pain in the arse
good luck
 
yep
 
evening lounge
been thinkin' about buying a mechanical keyboard with custom keycaps
made a mockup:
I like it =/
I have a mechanical keyboard at my parents'
 
2:09 AM
@nightcracker is the red button an emergency STOP?
 
escape :P
 
@MooingDuck if I'm going to get this keyboard I'll order it at wasd keyboards
@MooingDuck they actually co-designed a keyboard with jeff
 
@nightcracker ....
Jeff Attwood?
 
2:15 AM
did you know he has a blog?
 
you just linked it to me
hence my reference
 
just making sure :D
 
this one is pretty awesome
 
and pretty overpriced
 
yeah
 
2:19 AM
but what do you guys think about my keyboard layout?
 
wonder if it's possible to install bootcamp + Win 7 without actually installing OSX
 
@nightcracker the right side (arrows, multimedia, etc) is for newbs :P
today I forgot what left and right means
thanks Haskell
 
hmm
without it it's so empty though
 
you look more sexy without
 
and the print screen stuff?
 
2:27 AM
what about it?
 
do you think I should remove that as well?
or just the mulimedia/arrows
 
each one of the last three columns should be gone, imho
I can't see what would their purpose be tbh
maybe it's just me
 
well
not forget the keys xD
 
hjkl for the win :p
 
I could put arrows on hjkl ;D
 
2:34 AM
that would be cool
 
like, I'm open for suggestions too
I can make any cap any color + any engraving
(any SVG, doesn't have to be an icon or text or whatever)
 
Turns out I'll get to see my appartment in the game.
 
man I feel so wobbly
 
fart and it'll be gone
 
not too much C++ here going on...
 
2:37 AM
so what?
 
so nothing, I was expecting C++ discussions here
 
you can start one
 
no, the type is clearly Lounge
C++ is only it's template argument
 
hello
 
@EtiennedeMartel Not too bad but the timeframe is way too fast.
 
2:38 AM
Apr 29 '13 at 0:10, by Etienne de Martel
@Johann The name of the room is Lounge<C++>. Notice the order. Lounge first, C++ second.
@DeadMG It's gonna be a ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE. Of course it gotta go fast.
 
rofl
 
(Or probably no zombies)
 
FRIGIN ZOMBIES
 
Anyway. What makes this game interesting is that they plan to scan real world places with drones and base everything on that.
 
@EtiennedeMartel How crazy is it to use a Treeview to select tabs of a TabControl?
 
2:39 AM
So you'll get to play, amongst other areas, in Montreal.
 
eh
 
The above borough, Ville-Marie, is where I live. It's gonna feel weird.
 
I can see that it might be amusing to play in your home area
 
@Borgleader I hate tree views.
 
but if your home area isn't among the listed, and I highly doubt my section of swamp will be
 
2:40 AM
@DeadMG In the end it'll probably play like Rust.
 
never played Rust
nor do I especially care to and let's be honest, I'm simply not really in the market for spending money on games right now.
 
In any case, the current flavor of the month in games is survival/crafting games.
 
all I'm saying is, "You can play in real-world locations" is only interesting if you have a particular attachment to notable real-world locations.
 
Like DayZ but without the zombies.
 
sounds like the flavor of the year
 
2:41 AM
like minekraft
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'm not sure what else I could use. I'm trying to make an irc client, and so each server has channels. So I thought it's kinda like a treeview (servers are roots, channels are leaves)
 
every irc channel software I've ever seen use tree views
 
treeviews are generally bad
 
@nightcracker MC isn't really about survival.
 
2:43 AM
it's also about that
together with crafting
 
@EtiennedeMartel then why is the main game mode called survival?
 
But it's mostly crafting and building.
 
@nightcracker Maybe it's just badly named?
 
@nightcracker Why is a "pineapple" called that way if it's not an apple and it doesn't come from a pine tree?
 
China is called the People's Republic of China or something but we all know that's a joke
 
2:44 AM
@EtiennedeMartel because pijnappel
 
and North Korea is the Democratic something Republic of North Korea but it's not really democratic at all.
 
@DeadMG it is perfectly democratic
 
@DeadMG How so? They get to vote... ;)
 
yeah, there's just only one available candidate by law.
 
you can choose kim jong un, and then you'll get him
 
2:45 AM
are you allowed not to vote?
 
the participation rate is 99.7%
 
by the way
did I mention that my doctor wants to cut out my gallbladder because he's got no other ideas?
 
yes
 
I felt the need to mention it again.
 
2:46 AM
looks like fun
 
like farting?
 
I just want to say that the vimium chrome extension is not worth it
so yeah, don't waste time on that
also wtf it's 4am already
time to go to bed I guess
 
3:03 AM
scrub
 
3:16 AM
@DeadMG This is done as a service to the people--it drastically reduces the time and effort used on counting votes.
 
3:34 AM
How long does it usually take for SO to deny feature requests? :P
 
5 minutes
 
anyone good with object c?
iOS room is empty
thought id ask
 
no
 
@DannyK No--being good with Objective-C is impossible (unless you count "good at avoiding it", in which case I qualify fairly well).
 
4:04 AM
 
Hi, My favorite programming language is C++. What is yours?
 
well mine too
 
@user1349206 SNOBOL.
 
Does anyone else here REALLY like C++? I do.
Hey! I have A QUESTION.
 
@user1349206 the question isn't who likes c++, or not, bcz we are here in Lounge<c++> which is a c++ chat room, question is why do you like it....
 
4:18 AM
I like C++ because of C++'s API for POSIX threads. Yes, that is why I like C++.
 
just one thing...
 
People don't like C++ here.
 
Has anyone here ever used the pthread API for C++? If so, what was your favorite experience using it?
 
I think most people would rather use boost::thread or std::thread
 
you know what bugs me? pi guy's date with tony
 
4:29 AM
why
 
curiosity ...
 
That's probably a reason to not like C++
 
4:53 AM
@telkitty.exe admit it, you want a date with pi guy :P
 
that's almost charming as dating tomalak ...
 
 
1 hour later…
6:26 AM
we talk about whole lot of stuff apart from c++
 
6:41 AM
Hmm, what is the best practice for using std::chrono stuff? It seems to me that it is quite a handful to write it whole.
Using namespace chrono = std::chrono?
 
you might want to look at what @R.MartinhoFernandes does with it (grep his nonius repo :P)
My meta question is no longer on the front page =/
 
7:39 AM
Hmm. I guess I will use some patterns form it.
 
@Rapptz all kinds of creepy that. Both the violence and the fact that a court know can know she searched for "terms such as anger management and parenting classes. She also searched listings for free stuff and sex with strangers"
 
Ahoy
Anyone ever seen an error message that stupid ?
`error: field 'm_pool' declared with incompatible types in different translation units (
'pool_type' (aka 'std::__1::vector<unsigned char, std::__1::allocator<unsigned char> >')
vs.
'pool_type' (aka 'std::__1::vector<unsigned char, std::__1::allocator<unsigned char> >')
)`
 
@ereOn multiple times. You're using MSVC. I still don't quite figure what's causing the message
 
@sehe: Nope, that happens on Mac OSX, with clang
 
Ok. I notice now it actually says you have a ODR violation. That's quite helpful
 
7:48 AM
ODR violation ? Isn't that supposed to fail at link time ?
 
Recompile all your TU's with the same flags. And make sure preceding includes don't fuck up (using/redefining reserved keywords/ __IDENTIFIERS__)
@ereOn Absolutely not. It's UB
 
I'm pretty sure the flags were the same... I'm gonna check my template definition
 
So this looks, most likely, like an out-of-date object file
 
Well I really, really made sure that is not the case
ccache cleared, git clean, rebuilt everything.
 
Mmm. It could be a bug. But the message is quite specific. I'd even compare preprocessed sources if need be
 
7:51 AM
I must have done something wrong. The software works perfectly and without a single warning on Windows and Linux.
 
Anyways, MSVC has a similar diagnostic. I'm starting to wonder whether they also mean "ODR violation"... Mmm.
 
It just fails miserably on a std::string assignment on OSX
 
assignment*
 
Which doesn't make any sense to me.
(thanks)
 
Do you link different versions of the stdlib? Have you built with libstdc++ on linux?
ok, need to run. See you
 
7:55 AM
Np. Thanks a lot.
 
@ereOn with ODR you'd get a link time multiple definition error
 
@Rapptz: I've just read that: google.fr/…
could be related to my problem (but that's a wild guess)
That fact that it fails on something as simple as a string assignment really makes me think this could be a viable cause.
 
morning
 
morning
 
8:13 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes ta
 
@ereOn p. you're welcome.
 
@thecoshman: ;)
 
8:34 AM
@BenjaminGruenbaum nice to see that in video form :D
 
user1804599
@sehe Why do you link to libc++ when you talk about libstdc++?
 
@rightfold dick test, you failed :P
 
@rightfold Because I was in hurry :)
@ereOn I meant link to libc++ on linux
 
user1804599
@sehe $ sehe run sehe run!
 
@sehe: On Linux I'm using g++ (Debian 4.8.2-16) 4.8.2. I have no idea whether it links with libstdc++ or libc++
I don't specify it on the compilation command line.
On OSX, I made sure I was using -stdlib=libc++ everywhere (code itself and boost)
 
8:41 AM
make a sscce
 
I don't know if there anything to do for C libraries (OpenSSL) regarding this.
@Rapptz: I tried that. No luck so far sadly.
 
8:57 AM
@ereOn that means it's GNU libstdc++, not "clang's" libc++. But you can install libstdc++ on linux too.
@ereOn nah. C libraries are far less prone to ABI horror in general
 
user1804599
C libraries FTW.
 
I'm playing a bit with my classes layout to see how it behaves. Lots of fun:
(lldb) print this->m_name
(std::__1::string) $2 = "tun0"
(lldb) print this->name()
(std::__1::string) $3 = ""

While `name()` is implemented as: `const std::string& name() const { return m_name; }`

Now that's fun...
 
user1804599
Oh, ECMAScript gets async/await. They almost got it right!
 
@rightfold wait a cotton picking second... didn't they have that already?
 
user1804599
@thecoshman No?
 
user1804599
9:08 AM
That's why you need a shitload of callbacks.
 
oh I see
 
user1804599
But async/await sucks because it is explicit.
 
yeah, I was thinking of the callbacks :P
oh, with ye old Erlang, is there much cost associated with having processes that are just waiting for messages? Obviously they still have that memory being used, but are they burning through CPU checking for messages? all will they sit there happily doing nothing until the VM pokes them with a message?
 
user1804599
Idle processes don't use CPU time, silly.
 
user1804599
There are only N pthreads.
 
user1804599
9:11 AM
And the VM runs only processes that actually have work to do, and it runs it on one of the pthreads.
 
user1804599
When you use receive, the VM won't interpret a single instruction of that process until somebody sends it a message.
 
user1804599
Or until timeout occurs if you specified after clause, of course.
 
cool beans :D
 
user1804599
If you just do [ spawn(fun() -> receive X -> X end end) || _ <- lists:seq(1, 1000000) ] and not send them any messages, it will use about 300 MB of RAM for the processes, and 0% CPU time.
 
user1804599
(Overhead of a process is about 300 bytes.)
 
user1804599
9:19 AM
Garbage collection for these processes isn't an issue either, since each process has its own GC.
 
@StackedCrooked seen the latest (and last) Golden Time yet :)?
 
that sounds creepy
 
oh, I forgot it was out
I'll definitely check it out soon.
 
@StackedCrooked lol
 
user1804599
@thecoshman I/O is implemented using gen_server with an I/O server, which is why I/O is not blocking the pthreads, but is just unscheduling the processes.
 
user1804599
9:23 AM
Hence no need for silly callbacks.
 
I took the last two days of the week off and it kinda messed up my schedule.
 
@StackedCrooked how darest thou
 
"thee", I think
GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY
 
@ScarletAmaranth Also I seem to be marathoning Kaleido Star.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit nope, thee is in the context of genitive (I used the acusative form)
 
9:27 AM
"how dare you" is correct :p
 
true dat
 
@rightfold ... is Erlang like 90% implementing gen_servers :P
 
user1804599
Dunno.
 
user1804599
But gen_server is a nice abstraction.
 
user1804599
You often want a process that keeps track of some state.
 
user1804599
9:29 AM
You can easily do it without gen_server, but why reinvent the wheel?
 
> Our Western partners, led by the United States of America, prefer not to be guided by international law in their practical policies, but by the rule of the gun. They have come to believe in their exclusivity and exceptionalism, that they can decide the destinies of the world, that only they can ever be right.
Correct, Putin.
@ScarletAmaranth thee is used in accusative and dative
genitive is thy/thine and has nothing to do with it
thou is nominative, only
 
thou is also acusative
 
it is not
> Thou is the nominative form; the oblique/objective form is thee (functioning as both accusative and dative), and the possessive is thy or thine.
 
Plague upon thee -> upon whom? (that's genitive)
In how darest thou, however, "you" is an object in accusative form o_O and should therefore be "thou"...
oh hold on
 
You definitely used nominative. That all being said, when considering "how dare I" I wonder whether the nominative is correct here
 
9:34 AM
thee functions as accusative ?
 
since it's the same as "how do I dare?" And, by extension, "how does thou dare?" So you were right I think now. But not because you used accusative or genitive
 
"How dost thou dare?
 
ah ye, it might be nomitive
so I was right to use thou in the first place
vOv :P
 
9:35 AM
my intuition too gud ^^
 
intuition good, facts bad
 
:)
story of my life ;)
 
so you still fail like Challenger
 
Xeo
so @Scarlet, got robot's ping?
 
@Xeo oh ye, currently in the process of reading from the beginning, so far, I haven't found anything new, he starts simple with basic composition and basic theory about relations and functions
@LightnessRacesinOrbit mm, Slovak is a flective language, I think it comes naturally to me because of this
 
9:38 AM
@ScarletAmaranth you're such a communist
 
I hate Slovak to be honest, I'd rather just use English
 
Well, we'll allow it, as long as you learn to use semicolons and commas properly.
 
I am good at semicolons, worse at commas
 
@rightfold gen_statemachine (or what ever it is called) that can be used like a gen_server, but with the addition of a FSM right? or is the idea more that you have two modules, one that holds the gen_server side of things, that talks to a 'private' FSM?
 
user1804599
gen_fsm
 
user1804599
9:41 AM
I never used gen_fsm, so I cannot tell.
 
@ScarletAmaranth I can tell
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit where did I fail horribly btw?
 
@ScarletAmaranth All three of your previous messages
2
A: Comment on UB with vector::at vs operator[] and cout UB

Lightness Races in OrbitThere is nothing about vectors that causes a segmentation fault in this code.

 
no way! :)
 
^ effective repwhoring
6 mins ago, by ScarletAmaranth
@LightnessRacesinOrbit mm, Slovak is a flective language, I think it comes naturally to me because of this
^ comma between phrases grr
5 mins ago, by ScarletAmaranth
I hate Slovak to be honest, I'd rather just use English
^ comma between phrases grr
4 mins ago, by ScarletAmaranth
I am good at semicolons, worse at commas
 
9:45 AM
aah, you do NOT put a comma between phrases :D?
 
^ comma between phrases grr
full stop, or semicolon
 
oh my god
I've been living a lie
 
commas between fragments
my terminology may be off
i'd have to look up phrases and fragments to check, but I'm on the phone now
 
Semicolons are for inflating your epenis.
 
I've used a few semicolons in my thesis, I always do something along the lines of: "we showed that X; it is therefore important to continue to..."
 
9:47 AM
@Rapptz ;;;;;;;;;
 
I guess semicolon is less than a full stop but more than a comma ^^
 
@ScarletAmaranth that's good
@ScarletAmaranth yep
@ScarletAmaranth you just did it again though :(
 
user1804599
Fuck semicolons.
 
user1804599
Newlines ftw.
 
9:48 AM
oh my god!
that comma is not supposed to be there again?! :D
 
@ScarletAmaranth You're not killing any puppies but it really grinds my gears on the internet for some reason :(
@ScarletAmaranth you got it right in the quote and wrong in the preamble!
 
I've used a few semicolons in my thesis < expected symbols are ';' or '.' only ?>
but I don't want either of these there
mmm, I might need to re-read ~80 pages now; with extra care
 
haha
that should have been a comma
gutted
:D
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit wait, just by using commas I can really annoy you, well this is very good news, I promise I will not abuse this too much, that said. maybe I can use full stops when it should be a comma, yes. that will surely wind you up no end, I wonder if he will plonk me for this, probably not,
 
l,o;l.
 
9:51 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ;)
 
@ScarletAmaranth wrong semicolon again. Needs to be ",)" :P
 
@thecoshman would be more effective if you put a comma before "maybe"
oh wait
okay I see what you did
but yeah that one isn't so bad
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit :D Im glad you appreciated it
 
user1804599
 
9:54 AM
"When X sees Y, it doesn't do Z, by design." - is this wrong or horribly wrong?
 
@ScarletAmaranth Looks okay to me
the "by design" is a little clunky (perhaps consider a parenthetical) but it's valid
 
@VáclavZeman I have a namespace alias also because I want to be able to switch between std::chrono and Boost Chrono (given that MSVC's std::chrono is broken).
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I see.
 
ok, I am not horrible at commas, I am horrible at commas in a particular context (what context that is I couldn't tell you); I blame my mother tongue once again.
 
9:57 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes ok, but only because it's you
 
:D the lounge being friday again
 
Xeo
Btw @R.Martinho, since you know German now, you might like this site if you haven't found it already: blog.fefe.de
 
@VáclavZeman skurvené čiarky :)
 
@ScarletAmaranth :)
 

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