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18:00
@DeadMG what does it almost show?
@rightfold <!-- -->
user1804599
Yes, comments and CDATA are the same thing.
not the same thing, but..
<pre> </pre>
user1804599
Yes, <pre> and CDATA are the same thing.
Because HTML and XML are the same thing
moron
18:01
@Borgleader I have something (swollen I think) lymph nodes, and attenuated mesenteric fat (the kind you're supposed to have)
user1804599
<pre> is an abomination.
Maybe if you explained what you're currently failing to do...
also CT conclusively rules out gallstones.
user1804599
As horrible as <font> is.
Why is <pre> more of an abomination than CDATA?
18:02
@DeadMG that's something I guess
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I don’t like ugly &lt; and &amp; when I want to show HTML or Sass code on my page.
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Do you know what CDATA is?
@rightfold Don't be a twat
user1804599
<pre> is completely different from CDATA.
@rightfold Why would you have that?
18:03
@rightfold nah, you I'll just bin.
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Because I want to show HTML and Sass code on my page.
user1804599
(duh)
Ah, does <pre> not do that?
I always thought it essentially escaped everything inside it except </pre>
user1804599
Compare <pre>&lt;section>foo&lt;/section></pre> to <pre><[CDATA[<section>foo</section>]]></pre>.
user1804599
18:04
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No, of course not.
@rightfold "of course not" fuck off you smarmy little git
user1804599
It’s a normal tag.
go play in Lounge<HTML> with the other script kiddies
user1804599
There is no reason for it to behave magically.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you on your period or something? calm the fuck down douche
user1804599
18:05
I don’t see how this is related to script kiddies at all.
<xmp>#include <iostream></xmp> ?
@thecoshman Why are you getting involved? And how come you're suddenly on rightfold's defence team?
disclaimer: i barely know html
@rightfold Well if it's your problem then it's 100% related to script kiddies :D
Right, so, only <style> and <script> implicitly contain CDATA.
You're basically SOL unless you want to start using JavaScript to populate DOM nodes.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit because you two are not shitting on each other in your own corner, you are doing in front of everyone. Because you are being a douche.
18:06
(or <iframe>s pointing to some text/plain document)
@thecoshman plonk, hypocrite
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit plonk
@Borgleader it suks, 'nough said
@rightfold too bad you missed the followup where I answered your question for you
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you can run but you are still acting the douche!
18:07
@thecoshman but it works =/
^ This is @thecoshman
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Image not found
@Borgleader haha winner
alas it's deprecated since HTML 3.2
user1804599
@Borgleader <xmp> is from HTML 3.2 and earlier. :v
user1804599
It is removed from the language.
18:08
I have no idea why though
It does still work on all known major browsers, too
> Specifications frown upon it, but HTML5 CR still describes it and requires browsers to support it (though it also tells authors not to use it, but it cannot really prevent you). (Source)
user1804599
lolwot
Works on FF and Chrome, good 'nuff for me
welcome to the world of IT where most shit things have been replaced but heaven forbid we ever actual drop that shit.
@Borgleader But we need IE3 support!
(Seems ironic, then, that' it's more likely to work in IE3 than in IE11...)
18:10
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I was gonna say, it's probably a good choice if you need that :P
Anyway, sounds to me like this is exactly that @rightfold needs; the only problem with it is that it is deprecated for unknown reasons.
user1804599
@Borgleader Works not on W3 validator, not good 'nuff for me
It's also several characters shorter than <?CDATA ... ?>
oh no it doesn't pass the W3 validator, the one thing my viewers won't be using, even though it passes on all of the things they will be using. need another solution
script kiddie approach
user1804599
Hmm.
user1804599
Yellow, white or silver background.
18:12
stained red with your blood
(white)
Xeo
Xeo
something dark
user1804599
I like yellow.
user1804599
With black text.
@Xeo Hows your leg D: (I've been meaning to ask but you weren't on when I was here)
@Xeo death is dark
18:15
darth is dark too
darkness is dark
darkness races in lounge
Xeo
Xeo
@rightfold signal color? lovely. signals me to stay away from it as far as possible
going home now
goodbye to anyone who can still read this
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I can
18:46
wow I hadn't seen this before
Oh this is new o.o
what's the point in asking for fresh chicken nuggets at McDonald's
"Oh yeah, thank god you asked for fresh nuggets, if you hadn't I would have totally given you these old shits instead."
user1804599
@AlexM. eww fast food.
user1804599
I’d rather go to the butcher’s thank you.
well read it and then you'll eww even more with good reason lol
then again it's just text on the internet so it's up to everyone whether or not they believe it lol
user1804599
18:58
Last time I went to McDonald’s it tasted even more horrible than the average paracetamol.
user1804599
It was like, cold and rubbery.
really? I think any fast food is good if you're in a hurry
oh yeah cold McDonald's stuff is indeed rubbery
actually nothing from them is good anymore after 20 mins or so
user1804599
If I’m in a hurry, I get don’t eat because I don’t have time for that.
@AlexM. yeah, basically don't eat anything and you'll be fine...
user1804599
If I do have time for it, I’m apparently not in a hurry enough.
18:59
the butcher won't have you.
He prefers quality meat
user1804599
@sehe lekkere gehaktbal of een stuk kip van de Keurslager uit Sprundel met goede kruiden en actual flavour.
you must be in a really huge hurry to not have time to tell the clerk to get you a sandwich lol
@rightfold jij ook, lekkere gehaktbal!
I'd love to drop by a restaurant and eat a cooked meal, but that would take at least 40 mins
if I'm running late for work, sandwich it is
user1804599
I want good meat or no meat.
19:02
fair enough :D
user1804599
Usually during the lunch I have sesame or poppy seed bread with butter and cheese.
user1804599
Sometimes with cucumber and tomato. :yum:
after starting to get fat I promised myself I'll start cooking my own food and max out on vegetables
but it took so much time to actually do everything that I just gave up and went back to food that's faster to acquire
user1804599
Tartar is nice, but you have to cool it very well and eat it quickly if you don’t want to spend all day on the toilet.
I like cucumbers, and I eat them with everything
user1804599
19:05
That’s what she said.
user1804599
user1804599
RT @MakingOfs: British Breaking Bad. http://t.co/80qXa8T5kO
user1804599
Why does he retweet that. :v
19:21
@rightfold he isn't verified, don't trust him
19:33
@rightfold why not
@rightfold Also, it's a political statement: social welfare state is bad for hollywood
20:03
So, I've been playing/streaming some of Dust: An Elysian Tail. Pretty fun so far.
keep in mind it was programmed from scratch by a 2D animator who learned to program while working on Dust, it will make it seem like a technical achievement too
@AlexM. Well, it looks pretty good. And dem hand painted backgrounds.
Also, I know it's repetitive as fuck, but it's like it doesn't matter.
Killing all these monsters never gets tiresome.
it's the core of the gameplay, so if you like that kind of stuff you'll like huge amounts of it too
the only platformer I ever really liked was jazz jackrabbit 2
they're not exactly for me
it had some of the best tracks ever: youtube.com/watch?v=RkOjl0C_ATA
20:14
@AlexM. Not exactly. Anything can become boring.
I guess, I've still to get bored of shooting stuff in FPS games
well I do get bored but then I want some more
it does depend on the game though
I never got bored of killing stuff in Diablo 1 because everything about the enemies seemed more and more awesome the more you played it
can't say the same about Diablo 2, for some reason
maybe because enemies in D2 were of all sizes right from the start; in D1 it was more obvious that you started with random imps and ended up fighting guys like this one
20:33
what is a good word for when the code reeks of stings? (Already heard of string typing)
@JohanLarsson Stringly typed?
yeah I was looking for something new/witty :)
not important though
@JohanLarsson "as complicated as string theory"?
is string theory fragile?
20:43
haha
this mf smells like tiny vibrating strings
I gave the pitch vibrato, pitches love vibrato
7
code is pretty dumb since I could not figure out a way to tdd it
user1804599
Tcl is based on string theory.
rightfold, do you want to waste A LOT of time trying to teach me some c++?
21:14
@JohanLarsson I'm way too busy wasting my time here:
Added measurements with bzip2 compression: Live On Coliru (I've randomized the data to make the data itself incompressible) (interestingly the 'small' data set was more efficient with compressed text archive than in compressed binary archive. All the rest of the cases were pretty much as expected) — sehe 3 mins ago
Check this out... ! I think I'm getting somewhere with this
Kudos to @StackedCrooked for even having libbzip2 installed on Coliru
It's a multiplayer painting webapp
Ah just realized I didn't write the url of the webapp I'm working on... here: painter.vosnax.ru
user1804599
I have such an immensely good idea.
@rightfold Rhubarb flavoured crisps?
21:27
@sehe I don't know enough to vote
Then don't vote :)
user1804599
@sehe koud.
Eiskalt
user1804599
Haskell website y u down.
Btw, the app work best with multitouch on a tablet.. not sure who is still connected
21:34
Uh oh... another one of these... stackoverflow.com/questions/22465895/…
Xeo
Xeo
SO shouldn't allow titles with 'which' and 'faster' in them :/
@Mysticial what's sad is that the question is about performance
Hello noobs.
It is still incorrect because it could be... Javascript... Java C#... and so on and the meaning might be different in some cases. — Loïc Faure-Lacroix 3 mins ago
?_?
Xeo
Xeo
@Rapptz Wrong room, try the Java one down the hall.
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix why are you making shit unnecessarily complicated?
21:46
@Rapptz Because someone could overload == ?
amazing analysis m8
now they need to overload operator!
ftr the guy is 100% talking about integers
so technically the two statements aren't equivalent but might be equivalent in some cases...
how do you know
may be just above he has a x = new Double(0)
@thecoshman It's safe to assume the OP isn't completely retarted and the two statements have the same result. — Jeroen Bollen 3 mins ago
21:48
@Rapptz bullshit :P
still, I gave a decent enough answer to the question
@Rapptz yes sure after he asked about "performace"
why would he ask which is faster if both statements don't evaluate to the same result
why would he ask about performance?
Static cast does invoke user defined conversions, even if they are explicit. That's what static cast is for :) See Regular cast vs. static_cast vs. dynamic_cast. Anyways, the proof is in the examples. — sehe 36 secs ago
> "retarted"
why would I know
21:52
@sehe It should say retarted. o_O — Jeroen Bollen 26 secs ago
deep
I still don't get why thecoshman got downvoted
> Write code that can be read and is easy to work with. If this question wasn't hemorrhaging vagaries I might be able to give a more specific answer.
That's worth an upvote imho
cause it didn't answer anything
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Q: Android NullPointerException, but where?

user3399567Ok, i got that I have a problem, I spent my last hours to find the problem, but I can not. From this LogCat how can I figure out what is the problem exactly? 03-17 22:42:39.710: E/AndroidRuntime(5168): FATAL EXCEPTION: main 03-17 22:42:39.710: E/AndroidRuntime(5168): java.lang.RuntimeException:...

weren't "debug my code" questions offtopic on so?
well it at least point out that you shouldn't mix numbers with boolean
and the question isn't specific
it's true that a pointer is less than useful for use with phoenix, so that part of the question seems confused — sehe 10 secs ago
21:59
I don't get how everyone else has somehow read what the language is in question
@Rapptz there is no question
^ oh well... someone blurts a knee-jerk 1-line answer and gets an upvote. I actually answer the question with two approaches on coliru and... nothing
then why answer?
@Rapptz the question is about best practice, my answer is that it is context senastive.
@thecoshman you got admin edited
Admins don't like vagaries
22:02
@JohannesSchaub-litb and not a single star has been given on that day
The irony is that the answer is a vagary itself
@ScarletAmaranth what day? I only see a message
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix and probably will get another one :P
you won't trust me.. but I have a boing 777 with 237 passengers. I already filtered out anyone not matching girls between 20 and 30. please propose your gift in return!
lol
@JohannesSchaub-litb they still didn't find it?
A boing777 is lost... time to renew insurance of high buildings to cover "plane crash"
o_0 did I get deleted?
No, you got censored for being snarky
@Rapptz snarky? no
Yeah you were being snarky wrt the question and the OP.
"Those who need shit spelled out for them" is being snarky
phf, if you're overly sensitive maybe
22:23
guys, please be calm and friendly
anyway, time to mess with Unity some more.
Maybe get a game going.
I tried Unity... got fed up with it.
It's pretty neat.
it is yeah
but I failed at not being shit
I don't really think it's hard atm
Seems to spoonfeed a bit.
but it'll definitely take a while to make something with it
22:29
It takes a long while to get used to
Esp wrt state lifetime and object communication
I did my review in 1/3rd of the allotted time
Good or bad? Who knows
I tried to do some basic orbital mechanics...
I need a change of scenery
Yeah the object communication bit seems a bit annoying
but I think the tagging thing makes it not as bad though I haven't tried using that yet
also using strings for input is still weird to me
So, last call for frontpage draft comments
Why am I getting a "this site uses cookies" bar?
22:34
"this site uses cookies bar"
because EU law
Send thanks to European Union
right
I forgot about that
Probably nobody will ever care, but I'd rather be safe than sorry
I don't like the front page :v
22:35
CookieGuard is p decent implementation
@Rapptz Yeah, well, tough :v
@cat clicking the 'status <colour>' should take you to something explains wtf that actually means.
it's very unwiki-like and ugly
or just that status page
Status page is nuked
also yeah that
22:37
The colour means exactly nothing
In case you haven't picked up the joke yet
@CatPlusPlus obviously :P
@Rapptz so? agreed.
Issue tracker is status page
@Rapptz Still not constructive :v
but we can worry about style later.
ssbwiki.com this is a better front page with roughly similar information
Also it's literally based on Wikipedia front page
Even the colours are the same
22:39
not sure I like the three column layout
your wikipedia looks weird then :v
I kind of think that 'new to chat' should be in that box that is about the link to this chatroom
{| id="mp-topbanner" style="width:100%; background:#f9f9f9; margin:1.2em 0 6px 0; border:1px solid #ddd;" | style="width:61%; color:#000;" | {| style="width:280px; border:none; background:none;" | style="width:280px; text-align:center; white-space:nowrap; color:#000;" | Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that . articles in English |} | style="width:13%; font-size:95%;" | * * * | style="width:13%; font-size:95%;" | * * * | style="width:13%; font-size:95%;" | * * * |} {| id="mp-upper" style="width: 100%; margin:4px 0 0 0; background:none; border-spacing: 0px;" | clas...
the format is different (yours is 3 columns, this one is 2 columns connecting into a single one)
anyway I think the ssbwiki example of a front page is decent (?)
So how would you divide this
It's wiki, just edit it
22:41
face it, wikis look shit, but you use them for content
@CatPlusPlus yeah I know
almost forgot how shit wiki markup is
I don't expect any new people to actually go through mainpage anyway
This is more for regulars' UX
So all content can be reached from MP
to be honest, there's nothing wrong with the list view we have at the moment lol
Not enough colours
I think it's alright, vOv
not that I have ever had any sort of aesthetic feeling
22:49
Welcome to LoungeCpp,
the official wiki for Lounge<C++>.
6 articles since January 2014
dang, only 6?
Mostly jams
are you planning on adding more templates?
As they're needed
Ugh newbie hints really need markup purge
23:05
can't seem to get it to play nice
it was a bit boring but then your mother gave me a great blowjob
We had 12 participants but nobody knows who the other 10 were
My sleeping pattern recently got even more ridiculous than usual
I tried gamejamming once, it was horrible
Everything's horrible
I've yet to try everything, good to know
yes, if all of its dialogues are written in all caps, death is cool
23:19
@CatPlusPlus mocked up this real quick
the table is bugging me but it's been 15 minutes of fixing so I gave up
wiki markup sucks
Strawberry
evening
hey
@AlexM. ?
Hehe. I just slurped 422 "codes" from my ideone.com history using their API: github.com/sehe/ideone_slurp/blob/master/Program.cs
@CatPlusPlus, how is your mission going?
23:34
My what
Oct 7 '12 at 20:47, by Cat Plus Plus
I made it personal mission to downvote everything posted here.
I decided to do it because their search functionality is still sub par. However, @StackedCrooked this calls for a reply from Coliru :S
@ThePhD and lo and behold: now I've located G9Kzfy.cpp in almost no time!
Can haz reopen vote here? stackoverflow.com/q/22461478/85371
oh well, as a comment then:
Mmm. Was gonna post my answer here. Apparently, I'm too late. Well, here's a link to an old use case I remembered ideone.com/G9Kzfy (2012). Nothing I particularly recommend, but it has it's uses — sehe 3 mins ago
@sehe it's opened again
hehe
> float vectorX = ( 50, 0, 10 );
lol
23:48
guys
is this not the comma operator
@Jefffrey stackoverflow.com/a/22467720/85371 most contrived answer ever?
@JohannesSchaub-litb (maybe, it, is) // depenz on language, really
@Jefffrey more like vectorZ eh xD
Damn. I had 25kLoC on ideone: cpp=16782, cs=3544, ansic=2055, sh=1264, java=978, perl=306, haskell=245, python=116, asm=52
Wow. I didn't imagine
> Look dude, there's nothing wrong with using new as long as you call delete for every new. It's not hard to keep track of that sort of stuff.
True enough. It's not hard for trivial programs. And it's not even rocket science for serious programs. But the problems are impossible to track if you mess it up. And you will mess it up. Exception safety is hard even /with/ exceptions and smart pointers.
/night all
23:55
so
I have a laparoscopy
cool
my CT scan said that I have swollen lymph nodes or fatty lymph nodes or something
and also that my ... stomach fat lining thing (I forgot the term already) is attenuated.

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