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12:07
Mar 7 at 13:58, by sudo rm -rf Telkitty
The Walking Dead is developing the exactly the way I desired: to see Daryl alone with Beth and Rick with Michonne. But there is no romance between those couples, much to my disappointment
Remember this, what I really wanted to happen kind of took place in the latest episode of the walking dead, namely there were some romantic action between Daryl with Beth (before they broken off by the zombies). As your unofficial oracle in training, I am predicting that some "action" will take place between Rick with Michonne in the next 1-2 episode ... or at least Carl will treat Michonne as his surrogate mum (which unofficially make Rick and Michonne a couple).
Well between Daryl and Beth there was almost romance
guise
Jefff
template<std::size_t N>
auto make_acontainer(const int (&a)[N]) -> array_container<&a, N> {
    return array_container<&a, N>();
}
why isn't &a in the trailing return type a constexpr?
@sudorm-rfTelkitty or Carl will get romantic with Michonne ?
12:18
array container? :E
it's an address... is it not?
addresses are constexpr
but I get
> note: candidate template ignored: substitution failure [with N = 1]: non-type template argument of type 'const int (*)[1]' is not a constant expr
:c
@Jefffrey Depends, I guess. The address of a local variable will be somewhere on the stack, and you'll only know where at runtime
this is damn impressive .. stackoverflow.com/tags/c%2b%2b/topusers
the guy has 16k+ reps with only 345 answers!
I fell off the top 20 :(
@JohannesSchaub-litb He's got like the most upvoted answer on SO
@AndyProwl so there's no way to make it work? :<
12:23
Wowowow impressive!
this guy is hot!
@Jefffrey Why do you need the address to be a template argument?
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Q: Get size of an array-pointer template parameter

JohannesI wondered if I could auto deduce the size of an array, which is passed as a template parameter, without (explicitly) passing its size. The following code both compiles warning-less on g++ 4.8 and clang++ 3.3 (using -std=c++11 -Wall). #include <iostream> template<const int* arr> struct array_c...

afaik, he's the creator of thge worlds best PI calculator or something
Yes. He's been for several years and counting the world record owner for computing the highest number of digits in pi
The average Lounger, you know
:D
Xeo
Xeo
@JohannesSchaub-litb that's not rep, it's upvotes
Mysticial has close to 150k rep
12:31
ah i had no idea
this time
let's do the smart man move and not burn my mouf horribly
stupid rain, I wanted to go for a walk
@ScottW FWIW, i can find no message about him
so he hasn't been in here yet?
he's here all the time
there's also a message by him in the starboard
two actually
I think litb is trolling you, @AndyProwl
@ScarletAmaranth I'm the most trollable person in the world, so that's possible
But he seems honest
lol
@AndyProwl sorry andy, @JohannesSchaub-litb is an ass :)
I shall keep that in mind :D
@Johannes you're a terrible person. Now you have to teach me something about overload resolution to compensate for what you did to me
@ScottW hot
lol
he eats adl for breakfast
in template sauce
Xeo
Xeo
@AndyProwl I have a feeling I know more about OR than litb
in other news, I finally ordered myself some glasses
after needing them for over 6 years probably
12:53
@Xeo Well, "Johannes you're a terrible person. Now Xeo has to teach me something about overload resolution to compensate for what you did to me" doesn't sound sane
@AndyProwl I am soooo sorry :(
Not enough "o"
wait, someone starred him.. so he must have come here
now I see what I did.. I didn't enter some text to search for.. so it didn't show me results lol
3 out of 5 starred text messages contain words like "fuck", "ass" and "whore" lol
and "race condition"
this is disgusting
lol, race condition :D
hahahah
that cracked me up, Andy
12:59
@ScarletAmaranth Why are you not registered for the jam?
because I ain't got no time for jams
I have a thesis to finish
(BSc. in ~10 weeks hopefully)
That makes sense
drzim palce
did it just stop raining?
let me check
I wish it was raining here :(
13:00
ok, it totally didn't
you need to flee Czech Republic while you can, Andy
there are more awesome places to live :P
I believe that
I am thinking of not going for master's and just run away, not like they'll teach me anything of value : - /
That's a good attitude
It felt great last time I ran away because fuck that place
Now I can no longer run away though
At least not so easy
well, my bachelor's will be (hopefully) finished in like 2 months, and I have learned basically nothing...
well, I know Java better because I had to do everything in Java
(but I count that as a minus)
13:05
I don't think it's a minus. "Know your enemy" kind of knowledge
I don't have that knowledge for instance
Java is incredibly easy to learn, I mean, of course you can't become and expert and know all the idiomatic ways of doing things (very quickly), but it's a very small language
incomparable with C++
I think the next language I'll study seriously will be C#
But my brain got slower. I'm still trying to wrap my head around Haskell
Perhaps I need a more practical approach than reading books
I want to know Haskell better
but I don't know how to get better :D
rofl
I like the second part of what I don't like :D
it's 100% fucking correct, nice! :)
I think that matches my preference too
I am ashamed of the C tag there
13:11
That tag would be misplaced though
xD
yeah no kiddin ^^
silly users marking C when there's no need :)
Xeo
Xeo
@AndyProwl write a tic-tac-toe :D
I got mine done with ~90 lines
@Xeo omg I wrote a tic tac toe solver yesterday :) on like 10 lines :)
Xeo
Xeo
13:12
solver vs game :P
i usually write a 4-wins game and a paint program as one of the first things in new languages xD
I also think that my haskell code looks shit
Xeo
Xeo
@ScarletAmaranth Where's that from?
the latter, of course, only if it has a gui
13:14
btw
@Xeo I clicked a link in @rlemon profile
I was trying to write a generic testing thingie in haskell
@Xeo with AI?
and I couldn't figure out how to pass an n-ary function o_O
Xeo
Xeo
@AndyProwl I only did a simple 2 player offline version
Xeo
Xeo
@ScarletAmaranth The way Quickcheck does it is smart
13:15
I ended up just writing a very specific testing facility
`tester binaryF = map $ uncurry binaryF . fst`
`testerT binaryF tests = zipWith (==) [ snd x | x <- tests ] $ tester binaryF tests`
something along the lines...
rly stupid
ok, I'll take some time off the computer before the jam starts
cya later
Xeo
Xeo
bye
for a very specific test format and binary functions to test
@Xeo what does Quickcheck do?
i don'T know how to write computer players
i hear you have to do it with a tree somehow
but i have no idea how, given a configuration, to say "this is good for player A" or "this is good for player B"
this has always been the point where i failed to write an "AI" for 4-wins :)
is all information available to all players in whatever 4-wins is?
13:20
the game is: you have 7 columns and 6 rows, and two colors. each player has a sufficient amount of stones of his color and put them into one of the columns, each player in turn, one stone each time
ah, right, try minmax trees and alpha-beta prunning, this approach generally works with games where no information is concealed
@ScarletAmaranth like tic tac toe, but instead of putting them straight at a given position, you put them into a column, and they fall down
yeah, it's "perfect information" or whatever the hell it's called in AI
@ScarletAmaranth i heard about minmax trees, but i have no idea how to write the function which is supposed to say "this is a good config"
ah, so you can't come up with good heuristic for that game?
mmm
13:21
yeah, inspite the fact that i'm a good human player xD
@ScarletAmaranth perhaps i am supposed to count the number and length of consecutive runs of the color of the player? perhaps something like "number*length^2". the higher this number is, the better the config
no idea whether this would be a good heuristics?
yeah I think that sounds reasonable, also something along the lines of blocking 2 "strides" for the opponent with 1 stone
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix I sure hope not - Carl is only 14. But if you are into that sort of things ...
woof woof
Xeo
Xeo
It basically generates one argument, and then recurses into itself, until the function yields a Bool
yeah that is interesting! although I got slightly scared when I saw them using arrows :P
I don't understand arrows for shit, everything I read about them either explains them without examples or explains how to compose them -> without examples : - /
Xeo
Xeo
13:37
Arrow are functions with extras
like monads are values with extras... kinda
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Monads.
Xeo
Xeo
still scared of them?
oh, I am not scared of Monads, I am scared of arrows xD
they're the equivalent of "dwim"
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@Xeo Nah.
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13:44
... Maybe.
user1804599
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lolwat :v
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a little....
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Lawfully Male/Female
Hermaphrodite
13:47
hahhah, they misused the common semantics of radio buttons or whatever the hell they're called being mutually exclusive
user3010322
You should totally allow that
yay, it worketh!
apparently I can indeed aggregate multiple file requests into one TU.
have any teams formed for the jam so far?
user1804599
14:05
Yes, me.
user3010322
I asked to form a team but I don't think anyone wants to work outside the actual official Jam.
14:20
not sure if I'm going to participate at all
user3010322
Woo!
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I just found a teammate!
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We gon' have sum fun. <3
@DeadMG me neither, but we'll see
Xeo
Xeo
I won't, D&D all day tomorrow
user3010322
14:37
Who the hell chose the time for the game jam and advertised it. =
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=/
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I know we said roughly every 3rd weekend of the month, but nobody's here!
well I think anyone can spend an hour and write a "hello world" app for the jam
user3010322
Well, whatever.
user3010322
I'm programming, so I'm happy. :D
14:50
what do you guys say about having headers and .cpp files in the same directory?
is it good or bad? i have to say I like it, because you have everything at one place
@JohannesSchaub-litb yep I have .cpp and corresponding headers in same directory
but for libraries I put "public headers" in an include directory
user1804599
Yay, I can draw tiles.
so it's
src/foo_impl.cpp
src/foo_impl.hpp
include/foo.hpp
Bunch o' party poopers.
Xeo
Xeo
14:59
you're also not participating, so shush
user3010322
He's going to half-participate.
Just handicapped with less time than the other guys
That's dedication, bitch, not party pooping
I hope I don't win by default.
user3010322
You'd have my competition.
user3010322
But I'm not in the same jam.
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15:03
And my partner can't participate either, because they're using stuff they haven't github'd or released yet
user3010322
It's a proprietary smorgasbord~
I couldn't care less.
there's another gamejam going on?
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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This is what happens. ;~;
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15:04
@AlexM. Don't worry, I only realized it yesterday myself.
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@AlexM. But yes, in 4 hours the jam starts.
seems I still can't access the lounge website :(
well I brought my work with me home so I'm supposed to work anyway
user3010322
What
as in, the stuff I had to do at work
user3010322
Why would you openy ourself up to that kind of target. =[
15:06
I sorta had to, I wasted enough time this week lol
@Alex, nah it's just ThePhD being his stubborn self and pulling a blackjack-and-hookers thing, without blackjack and without hookers.
user3010322
I don't know what blackjack-and-hookers is, but it sounds nasty and gross.
user3010322
Regardless, I probably missed the main announcement because I was dealing with crises over the week and only chillaxed on Friday.
user3010322
It doesn't help that the pin still looks like it's just proposing the rules, rather than that the Jam is in four hours. :c
I'll fix that in a while.
user3010322
15:09
We should have a second room owner doing that kind of stuff, so it's not always you.
is it common for batteries included w/ wireless keyboards to be crap?
user1804599
Hmm.
user1804599
Emmentaler.
mine was, and I almost sold it thinking it was the keyboard's fault for being slow as fuck
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes urbandictionary.com/…
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15:11
HEY. D:< I'll make my own amusement park! And I won't need blackjack or hookers! D:<
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That goes for vidya games too. :c
quick question about the rules...ortell's generator sometimes spits out stuff like "mobile game [...]" or "browser game[...]" - can we ignore that?
@AlexM. Mine brought a pair of AA Duracells and has an estimated battery of life of three years.
mine had an Energizer included, and I bought a Duracell today
15:16
@melak47 Hmm, I guess so. That would be weird.
there's no more lag now
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@melak47 We'd better be able to. @__@
@ThePhD well we don't have to use ortell's generated themes, but they can be fun and I don't want them unusable because HAHA MAKE A MOBILE GAME YOU LOSER
user3010322
Just keep rolling it until there's no mention of a platform, maybe?
user3010322
To provide the most amount of usable themes?
15:17
or just ignore the platform. The themes are all insane anyway :v
derp.
@ThePhD I wouldn't mind if someone stepped forward.
I might do stuff if you make me owner :3 (though probably not :p)
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes Me! Pick me!
FWIW, the only thing a non-owner can't do about it is just the pinning and event scheduling.
Though I don't mind being the jambot.
user3010322
Awrh. I can't pin stuff as I am now.
user3010322
15:27
Is there a rep requirement as a room owner?
folk
i'm trying to design a new language
user3010322
Join the club!
@ThePhD Er, you're not a room owner.
long long ago litb was a room owner
then he trolled, and was removed
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@R.MartinhoFernandes I know. That's what I meant.
15:33
I really wouldn't mind someone taking over the "jam start signal" logistics this time, since I have dinner at eight, i.e. when it starts.
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I think the only room owner remotely around is Xeo.
wait Bartek won't participate?
I think he said he would, but he didn't register, I guess.
Did anyone team up already?
you can make me a room owner temporarily and i will be around
lol
15:35
Anyway, that would mean 1) generate the themes; 2) updating the wiki with the themes; 3) pinning a "Jam in progress" message that links to the wiki.
#3 can be simply written and then a pin requested to any room owner around.
@JohannesSchaub-litb and try to convince everybody that the jam is cancelled
I can do most of that from my phone, but it's at an awkward time.
I'll be shaking hands and hugging people and asking "hey how are you" and stuff.
that leaves the other hand free for working your phone :p
Etienne is the only other room owner who registered for the jam
perhaps he will be willing to do that
15:40
i have a blogspot blog.. and i did have something like 20 followers.. but now i have zero
i wonder what happened to all those
ooh it stopped raining
@AndyProwl I'm still available <3
@melak47 I can't team up :( I'm not sure how much time I'll be able to devote to this, and I suck at git and cooperation and stuff
This is some crazy effective job advertising there on my SO page:
@AndyProwl hehe, I'm not totally sure if/how much I'll participate either
15:50
but this time I'm determined to deliver something
no matter how much it will suck
@R.MartinhoFernandes quality time -_-
@Jefffrey Huh?
It is quality time. I haven't seen some of those people in a while (Some I saw yesterday, but whatever).
@AndyProwl Goddammit, since when is sucking at that a reason not to do it?
See it as an opportunity to get some experience on it without any strings attached.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, well, I'm not good with social interactions (especially with people that I don't see daily) and it would be awkward time for me.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't want to cause damage to my teammate, and also time
lol, you think I am good at social interactions?
You should ask sbi.
15:56
we can all be socially awkward together in june! :D
Xeo
Xeo
whee
we could award a prize to the most awkward
live stream everything for bonus awkwardness
ok, it's time to prepare go play cs:go
haha
user3010322
15:59
Time to cook a shitload of bacon.
> cause damage
It's a game. It's a jam. It's a game jam. You know. "Game". "Jam" :)
@ThePhD Like Epic Meal Time?
@Abyx I bought that some time last year, and now the whole interface seems to have changed. and they want money for map packs containing community made maps or something? what happend

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