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19:00
Yes it is.
Just google it
Also, it's Google. Hurray!
Also fuck, it's 20h.
Oh, Google's entire index on TVtropes disappeared.
@EtiennedeMartel Dont remind me. Harry Potter had some of the most disturbing fanfic couples.
@R.MartinhoFernandes First law of building robots: regardless of a robot's constraints, it shall always believe it's doing whatever it wants.
19:01
I knew you would not disappoint.
wth?
i want my money back
that happens
did I just repcapped without repcapping?
yeah. you lost points after some had been witheheld due to capping
19:06
i'm done
fuck this place
It's possible that some kind of explanation for this could become visible asynchronously. Some parts have slower consistency than others
lol -
you've got a temper problem. And a rep addiction, then
you have 18K, what's a couple rep points :p
I'm trying to win the get to at least 200rep for 200 days badge
and this guy is not giving me the 7 points I need to increment the counter today?
I want a refund for the last 3 years of my life I've spent here
You repcapped why are you whining o.o
19:09
repcap does not get you any badge
repcap good, 200+ better
if you go to stackoverflow.com/reputation, at the bottom, you can see some interesting stats
Yeah I don't go there anymore ever since my rep income has flatlined.
@Jefffrey I see some stats. Interesting...not so much.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit oh aha - the comments got cleaned there. Lemme post here then
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It is very sad to see you actively denigrating efforts by others. Your rant at the OP is somewhat justifiable but to continue your personal war at the expense of others who happen to have slightly different interests... You know what, you can't influence that! And you shouldn't. Because this site is not about you. Go to [Meta.SO] if things need changing. Don't find silly wars in comments to (answers to) petty questions. These are not the windmills you are looking for. — sehe 5 secs ago
> rep cap was reached via rep from upvotes only on 2 days
I suck.
ok, we'll star that ^
19:14
> rep cap was reached via rep from upvotes only on 133 days
I always considered that to be a neutral sign. I mean, it just means there's a lot of passive rep. It can mean people luck out/fish for the populars only. I prefer an active contributor with many accepts.
> rep cap was reached via rep from upvotes only on 5 days
weird considering i have less rep than @EtiennedeMartel
@sehe This doesn't really point to days where you didn't get accepts. It just means you received 200+ from upvotes, regardless of accepts.
@Borgleader so, your answers get more views. I know how that is. Many boost questions don't even get 20 views (?) in the first week.
@sehe Um, what's going on?
All I said was "please don't feed the help vampires"
@sehe No I think that means I wrote a lot of shitty answers. Meaning I managed to repcap without accepts.
19:19
@Borgleader Treating accepts as an indication of answer quality seems questionable at best.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You said this about a hundred times at the OP. And then you blindly start reiterating the same opinion at an answer as soon as one pops up. Seriously, you might have to accept that SO is not your property?
@sehe I said it once to the OP that the question was off-topic.
The answer was fine. Answering was fine. Deal with it.
@sehe I then said it once to the answerers. Each was tailored to the scenario where the comment was located.
I never claimed that SO is my "property" what the hell is the matter with you... the only person going on a rant right now is you!
You're not listening. And that's fine.
19:21
Yes, I am listening. I am disagreeing with you.
You can tell I'm listening because I have responded to each of your points...
You can disagree without my assistance, I hope.
No idea what made you suddenly combust, but I have no interest in furthering this debate. Go do some research on help vampires and the thousands of people who agree with me.
oops
@JerryCoffin Isn't the best answer supposed to get accepted? ;)
@Borgleader well. that is a possibility
19:24
@Borgleader Almost by definition, no. The OP gets to choose what to accept. Having to ask the question tends to indicate sufficient ignorance of the subject that s/he's often in a poor position to judge the quality of the answers.
Fair point.
@Borgleader In theory. In practice, it's the one that works (read: appears to work) for the OP. Usually, though, a big gap between the score of one answer and the others will lead to the OP accepting the high voted one, which is [slightly] better.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit If you think it's off-topic, vote to close. If thousands (or even a handful) of people agree with you, it''ll get closed. Verbal combat is unlikely to accomplish much.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ...or perhaps (anywhere from slightly to vastly) inferior, but happened to be posted sooner.
@JerryCoffin I really don't think I was performing any sort of "combat". I just said "please don't feed the help vampires", as I've seen many others doing over time. The OP was obviously unhappy with the suggestion that his question was off-topic, but this total explosion is totally out of proportion... (as well as mired in a sequence of logical non sequiturs and libellous assertions lacking accuracy)
Oh well, can't please everybody. I will go now and figure out how to prevent myself from thinking of SO as my "property", which is obviously what I'm doing?!
"I'm not getting the right answer" is a fact. What's your question. — Eric Lippert 1 min ago
o.O Eric Lippert is in the house
19:27
@JerryCoffin That too.
In reality I do feel that most often the best answer does get accepted. Unless the "first" answer is hastily accepted (which happens a fair number of times), or the "good" answers start trickling in only long after the fact (which happens especially if history makes new solutions available).
These answers to me always appear to be extra-ordinarily high-voted (looks like many SO citizens want to compensate for the lack of accept)
@Borgleader Of course.
I find often the answer accepted is one that is a code dump, without any prose explanation, which is harmful not only to the OP but also to the community over the long run
Oh fuck I'm doing it again aren't I
the shame
;)
anyone know much about shellExecute in visual c++?
So, who likes space indentation? And why?
@RahulKhosla yes
19:29
i foresee a round 2
@LightnessRacesinOrbit "Think of the children!"
@Jefffrey no
@EtiennedeMartel That's illegal in many jurisdictions. Or, at least, ill-advised.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Lol. So refreshing
there we go
@Jefffrey not from me*
Xeo
Xeo
19:30
@StackedCrooked Holy crap, Maou is fucking insane.
I keep getting an error when I try compile my code to open a PDF, should I paste it here?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Your desire to be right at every turn will compel you to do it.
Should I create a new question for it?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit didn't said it would be you that started
19:31
@EtiennedeMartel Hard to argue with someone you can't see. It's also hard to argue with someone who is not arguing but making things up and coming at you personally, another reason it's good not to see them. :)
@RahulKhosla If it's well-formed and on-topic, and you have a testcase, sure!
okay thanks
@sehe Oh, don't get me wrong: I'm not arguing that accepts mean nothing, but I'd still be pretty wary of equating "accepted" with "best." I'd agree there's some correlation, but I think it's fairly weak.
@EtiennedeMartel BTW it's not a desire but a fact ;)
@RahulKhosla What would happen? Did you talk to a witch who told you to "drop your code in a steaming mix of temperaments, three ounces of utter vile and stir it with the scent of programming language hatred while proclamating a Haskell spell"? Because, you now, you've come to the right place!
@RahulKhosla you're welcome
(also good luck because you're probably going to need it)
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Isn't that what you're also doing?
@Jefffrey You're missing the meme, I fear :) That was actually harmless. And refreshing. Also,
I concur with a lot that has been said. I just don't always approve of the ferociousness with which opinions are battled in the wrong arena. And the effects that has on the site and community.
You know, you seem to rile people up quite a lot. I'm not sure it's their fault.
@JerryCoffin the "accepted" feature was never meant to be read as "this is the best answer", rather "this is the best answer for OP"
@EtiennedeMartel No, not in the slightest. I responded to each point calmly and with facts. shrug I can't do better than that.
@EtiennedeMartel Thanks for that constructive input
19:34
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It's actually a request that you do a bit of introspection. Because I've seen many level headed Loungers get angry at you in the past.
I starred that.
@Jefffrey The qualifier may help, but only a little. There are clearly cases where the accepted answer isn't the best for anybody.
@EtiennedeMartel High horse much?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit See? You're even taking it defensively.
13 mins ago, by Borgleader
19:35
Like you don't even want to consider that perhaps the wrong person here is you.
@EtiennedeMartel Can you suggest a reason why I wouldn't get defensive when you talk down to me like that?
^ lol
Just think about it. I'm done.
@sehe highfive
@EtiennedeMartel Thanks Mom. Just, wow.
19:35
@JerryCoffin That's also why in some cases, IIRC, the accepted answer can fall down the first place.
Tired
Still Wednesday
I need a weekend
@EtiennedeMartel Prove that statement please. I never said anything like that. All I know is that sehe blew up at me, unsolicited, about a question he had zero input on, coming at me with accusations that were patently false. And you ask why I get defensive.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Didn't get enough sleep yesterday. Bleh.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I did star that message for a reason.
And now it's you doing it too. sigh
19:37
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Or maybe it's just you. Maybe.
I do see that I find myself at the centre of these things often. You think I've never thought about why that might be?
@EtiennedeMartel You're ignoring the points I just made.
Perhaps the reason it's just me is that I'm the only one who bothers to call you out on your shit
They're out to get you
> Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Or maybe you're unconsciously stirring shit up.
(can't remember what that was from; something good)
@EtiennedeMartel Your turn: take a look at what you're doing, totally unsolicited. Who's stirring shit up here? I haven't stirred anything up here all day!
19:38
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Life
The Colour of Magic, I'd guess
lolwut
Dafuq
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You seem to think that solicitation is always a conscious act.
@sehe Quote me starting an argument here today.
@EtiennedeMartel Why do you say that?
Or some other Pratchett.
But most certainly Pratchett.
19:39
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The best ones have been deleted. Also, no interest. Because you're not interested.
Definitely Pratchett.
So now, when you come at me out of the blue, being fucking condescending as hell, "you solicited it". Okay.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit If I act in a manner that pisses someone off, that person has the right to do something about it, even if I don't realize I'm pissing him off.
And Rincewind.
@sehe None of my messages were deleted here today. None of them. And if I weren't interested, why would I ask?!?! You're doing it again :(
@EtiennedeMartel You do not have the right to viciously attack me like this out of the blue, no:(
19:40
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, to be fair, it did almost seem like they were out to get him.
inb4 "you do it all the time" Nah, not really
I am forward with arguments :) But I do stick to facts to the best of my ability. I've seen none from anyone else in this discussion
Which, now, is over. Okay?
I'm going to head off for a time, grab a few beers at the pub quiz, and I'll see you later when it's calmer
Ninety percent of the time, when one party states a fact about the other parties present in a disagreement, and then states "the disagreement is over", it tends to not be over.
@SamDeHaan Yeah, true. :P
I really am going though because the quiz starts at 8 and this nonsense has made me late
@SamDeHaan Enjoy.
Impossible, it's barely 2:30.
19:42
question 1 is always the easiest so I don't wanna miss it (free points!)
@SamDeHaan Ahh but I am a seven hour journey away from the pub!
@LightnessRacesinOrbit, sometimes you can be a bitch, and you know it. I can be a bitch too sometimes. And guess what? Even sehe has been a bitch before. tbh I don't recall etienne ever being a bitch, but that's just the exception that proves the rule. We are all bad and we are all bitches. Can't we just get over it?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you may want to consider a closer pub.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The Late LRiO. He was known by many... :-)
@Jefffrey I was over it several minutes ago darling :)
topcoder.com is finally coming into the 21st century!
no longer a 1990 retro look
19:43
@SamDeHaan But it's soooo good
@LightnessRacesinOrbit writing that took me several minutes ;(
@Jefffrey haha loser
The quiz dude
i know
omg i called you a loser what a horrible person!
19:44
Quickly, the quiz. You've almost missed the second question by now
Not kicking you out, but as a fellow quizzer I know how important that shit is
@Code-Guru I'm not so sure. That gradient looks suspiciously like a Windows 95 title bar.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I apologize if you took it as a "vicious attack". That wasn't my intention. I only want to tell you what I'm seeing and understanding here, and how I think it might help you. Feel free to also tell me what you think about me.
well it definitely looks better than the old colors
Unfortunately, it seems a little broken...
19:48
You want functionality AND style?
you crazy?
that's a whole separate issue
@Jefffrey Yes, of course. Can't you come up with a more challenging question than that?
@JerryCoffin How crazy are you?
Wow for the first time Qt Creator suckage.
Working with LLVM/Clang and it eats up 900MB RAM.
O_o
That just ain't right.
19:55
Maybe it's clang's fault. Why you blaming the cutie?
@Borgleader By the best scale of insanity I know (rep points in ) I rate a 75.
Wait till you see @Lightness
Ell
Ell
> It's all in nonsense grams
hmmm
Ell
Ell
19:59
xD
why is it that game music tends to have just one or two iconic tracks?
maybe they only need a couple to headline their trailers, I guess.
Why would you expect more than an iconic track or two?
because there's like, fifteen tracks.
@DeadMG One to headline the trailers and one to trail the headlines.
also
I note that some games, like Total Annihilation, had like seven tracks at least worth using
Ell
Ell
20:02
I love the TA music
@StackedCrooked Coliru being surprisingly versatile again:
See it Live on Coliru complete with my demo data in 27 dirs/files — sehe 6 mins ago
There's 10-15 tracks on a lot of albums. But people latch on to one or two, and spread awareness of the album through repetition of those tracks. Same concept with game music.
well, it's not the same concept at all when you've spent a thousand hours playing the game in question.
Well, you're not looking at a marketing perspective.
i'm drowsy
20:05
@R.MartinhoFernandes My VM Linux killed ld when linking clang... 4 GB of ram is not enough anymore :-p
Ell
Ell
@rubenvb 4gb of ram to link clang?
... what does that have to do with tracks that you're going to play to your players after they already paid for the game?
@DeadMG In which case you really want Perpetual Change. :-) [Accident of timing: I was just listening to that. The copy on YT sounds like shit though.]
@Ell no, 1.6 I think. But KDE at ~400MB (stupid semantic desktop search crap which I now turned off), Qt Creator at 900 MB, and some other crap I'm not aware of.
@JerryCoffin Uhoh. Took me some time to figure out how ... figure that out. Turns out I'd rate a 30. Buttttt I did so in 16 answers. So that is probably still worse?
20:07
@DeadMG Once you've got their money....who cares?
Once you've got their money... you want their friends' money. And in this age, their social media posts. So you can get their money and their friends money with your next game.
fucksake
starts at 9
and now im stuck on mobile chat
But you didn't miss any questions
@sehe No--it appears I have no fewer than 27 in . Then again, if your answers are actually about PHP, they might be worse. Mine tend to be like this, where the question is tagged PHP, but the answer doesn't mention anything specific to PHP at all.
20:16
@Sam there is that
Oh. Now you're making me look again :)
[this](http://stackoverflow.com/a/16732989/85371) is the highest voted one
but i drove cos i was late so i cant even drink properly
oh well
@sehe Based on totally insufficient input data, I'd guess we nearly tie. :-)
:)
I've got 1 PHP. Does that mean I'm relatively sane?
20:25
It means you suck at answering PHP questions
...is that a yes?
That might actually be the same thing
@SamDeHaan Perhaps. But it's doubtful there's anybody here who can claim a sufficient level of sanity to act as a judge in the matter.
I hope that's 1993
20:26
thanks Jeff
Oh. 1997. Close enough
yeah looks about Half-Life era.
@SamDeHaan Of course, in any of these to do a meaningful you probably need to compare percentages, not raw scores. So your 1 point in PHP comes out to .015% of your total rep. My 75 points work out to .034%, so I'm (apparently) about twice as insane as you are.
Be careful though: one up-vote in the wrong tag, and you'll pass me in a hurry...
Yeah, that's definitely dangerous territory
Pffft. You all have powers to edit tags to the questions. That's too easy to game
user1804599
20:33
JVM y u no unsigned integers.
ahh dont remind me about rep
I got 23 upvotes in
6
i gotz cravingz
@sehe honor among thieves/asylum inmates?
230 out of 85,000
20:34
@rightfold JVM y u no *** -> because java sucks
@DeadMG not much further to that coveted gold badge
0.0027%
@SamDeHaan Well. As long as nobody cares, I trust the metric :/
I'm massively saner than Jerry.
@rightfold you can always pretend int is just binary data.
user1804599
20:34
@Code-Guru It’s still terrible.
oh wait, that's because int is binary data
int x = 1001; // perfectly valid
user1804599
If I want to read an unsigned byte I need to read it as a signed byte and then cast it to an integer and do bitwise AND.
@sehe 1993 was the year Doom came out.
@DeadMG 0 upvotes in php, I'm infinite times saner than both of you :P
user1804599
20:36
You got only downvotes in .
I think that 0.0027% is a negligible amount of insanity personally.
Your knowledge of PHP is the only insanity metric?
@DeadMG That's is 0.27% MATH NOOB
0.03% for me
@DeadMG You're already insane anyway.
user1804599
I got nine upvotes in and five in .
Ell
Ell
20:37
I don't think I have any upvotes
3
I have a silver java badge, and I'm proud of it!
=p
@sehe 230 rep out of 85,000 rep is 0.0027 according to my calculator right here.
@DeadMG Yup. But NOT percents.
@DeadMG And 1.0 is 100%
482 upvotes in java
20:38
oh yeah
cough
oh well
I'm still saner than Jerry.
er, wait.
actually, I'm substantially more insane than him.
user1804599
Hmm.
@Code-Guru You count... upvotes? How
summary page
user1804599
20:38
If a bounty runs out but there was already an upvoted answer before the bounty started, will half of it still be rewarded to that guy?
user1804599
I hope not. :v
@rightfold Only if he has at least +something, and I think that something is 2 or 3.
user1804599
Ah, nice.
oh wait, it existed before the bounty started?
I don't know if they are counted.
user1804599
> If you do not award your bounty within 7 days (plus the grace period), the highest voted answer created after the bounty started with a minimum score of 2 will be awarded half the bounty amount. If there's no answer meeting those criteria, the bounty is not awarded to anyone.
20:39
user1804599
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Q: Should I challenge my professor who thinks he's always right?

user10815One of my professors has been in the IT development fields for over 40 years. He thinks he is up-to-date with all the latest research and technology. But in reality, he's not. The problem is - he hates when a student (like me) dares to point out his mistakes or flaws in reasoning. Or when a stud...

@Code-Guru That's showing total score, so it could be 500 upvotes and 18 down votes (just as an example).
user1804599
its simple, never argue with a professor . Especially when you know he's grouchy and your future is at his stake. — shwetaG 10 hours ago
user1804599
That’s a horrible idea.
Ell
Ell
@rightfold its a safe idea
20:42
@JerryCoffin if I have 500 upvotes, then I certainly have 480 =p
user1804599
Well, it’s a safe idea if you want job security.
user1804599
But a horrible idea if you want to improve the average programmer’s quality.
@Code-Guru Haha. My 100 boats are dominated by Joins Are For Lazy People +45, sort command takes longer in IDE +5 and How to manipulate leaves of a json tree +5. None of those are Java-specific. The last one I even answered with straight C++
Ell
Ell
@rightfold I agree
That's kind of like my 53 upvotes for c#...
20:44
@rightfold This is about college, not a job. In college your job is to graduate with a decent grade. Arguing with a professor doesn't improve quality; it just means you've lost sight of your real goal.
@Code-Guru You... answer C# questions with java code :/ :)
user1804599
@JerryCoffin The point is that you are less terrible than the other guys because the other guys got taught themselves wrong things. :P
51 of those are from a Java cross-listed question
user1804599
Hence you have more chance for job than the other ones.
user1804599
(defn to-unsigned [value]
  (cond
    (instance? Byte value) (bit-and (short value) (short 0xFF))
    (instance? Short value) (bit-and (int value) (int 0xFFFF))
    (instance? Integer value) (bit-and (long value) (long 0xFFFFFFFF))))
user1804599
20:45
^ useful
Ell
Ell
What if its a long :o
Is this a satire show in America?
user1804599
@Ell out of luck mate
user1804599
I’d have to use bigints. :|
20:46
"Today" is a morning news show
@Borgleader It's an IQ test. Just carry on, you're not in the target audience
I think the caption is the satire
user1804599
> USB
oh...haha, I missed that
user1804599
@sehe intelligent question.
user1804599
lol
@Code-Guru 1.1k boats in C#. How do I check they're not also tagged java :)
grats!
user1804599
@sehe use the data exploder.
@Borgleader Digital highway?
20:53
@rightfold I'm not really going to, of course
user1804599
Then you will never be sure!
user1804599
Today was a horrible day.
@Borgleader Gotta love how the pseudo-techies all immediately jump in assuming it must be an Ethernet cable since it has an RJ connector. It probably is, but (just for one example) some APC UPSes connect to the computer with a USB cable that has an RJ11 connector on one end...
Source video, confirmed he talks about usb ports while holding a fucking rj-45 cable T_T
@JerryCoffin Why confuse everyone by holding a cable that doesn't actually look like a usb cable?
if it is indeed as you say a USB cable with an RJ11 connector
20:59
Hi

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