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7:00 PM
holy crap
> Resizable C++ Project Properties Window.
 
I can't believe I'm one of the few people here who like brace completion.
 
/cc @sbi and a million others
 
Xeo
Oh sweet, C++Now vids are up on YouTube
@jalf Hey, they actually add a ; at the end of class definitions! That was what was mainly pissing me off with other brace-completions.
Of course, that doesn't help for () and functions...
 
PHP room is still full of dicks; not sure why I expected otherwise, though
 
> PHP
Joke of the century
 
7:03 PM
> dicks
under-statement of the century
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Every room is full of dicks XD
 
haha get in
someone flagged the dick
 
Except for Rebol, Rebol is an awesome room full with awesome people.. I have no idea how they do it.
Also Rebol is a really cool language
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum searching...
 
PHP: People Heave Poop
Heave: to vomit
 
7:05 PM
perhaps the REBOL folks haven't discovered conflict yet, since they have nobody and nothing with which to come into conflict :D
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It's amazing, it's a bunch of really clever dudes who used to work at compiler design at big companies that took some esoteric language that just got open source a few months ago and are doing amazing things with it. I have no idea what they're doing here.
 
REBOL sounds too much like COBOL. Should I be scared?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Magic, and ponies! (Also, they built a SO GUI working chat client with an automated bot in 500 very simple lines in about an hour... that's pretty awesome). The problem is their language is full with 'grown up politics' which totally sucks.
The only reason I haven't learned Rebol beyond the trivial yet is those politics.
 
@melak47 Do you maybe know the name of this theme?
 
7:11 PM
So, Herb Sutter keynote tomorrow? Apparently it's going to address their stance on future "out of band" compiler updates. Anyone wanna bet on the outcome of that one?
 
Xeo
> is3elem = isElem `3`
That looks wrong oO
 
@Tuntuni space blueberries.
 
@melak47 Wut. R u trolln me?
 
@melak47 I meant the Visual Studio theme. :P
 
7:14 PM
@melak47 haha
 
@Tuntuni oh. my own
 
@melak47 :oo It looks super cool.
Are you using VA X?
 
not for the syntax highlighting
this is just regular VS2012 highlighting
with different colors
 
Did you spend a lot of time making it?
I just went to the Options dialog and there are a LOT of items lol.
 
7:19 PM
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Q: Java is not good for desktop applications

NarojiIn one of the quiz, it is said that: Java is not good for desktop apps because of heavy memory footprint & huge vm startup time I am not able to understand the meaning of heavy memory footprint at all. And not able to understand how come a vm will take lot of time at startup, is it because o...

^^ lol
 
well, I had to dig through lots of those font items to see what's what, what affects C++ highlighting
 
Xeo
Java is not good to begin with. Second, having used WPF I would say there's nothing good except WPF for desktop applications. — HighCore 1 min ago
lol
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis Those exist? — Etienne de Martel 9 secs ago
Trollin trollin
 
@jalf We're not ready for it, I'm going to cry and apologize a lot / offer VS2013 for really cheap to placate the masses / both
 
@melak47 Could you maybe export your Fonts and Colors when you get the time and send it to me? I really really like the theme. :3
 
7:22 PM
sure. it is only geared towards C++ though. it doesn't alter any other colors, so XML, XAML, C#, and whatever else might look horrible
 
@melak47 I use C++ only anyway. :D That site, studiostyl.es has themes for C#, XML, etc. only.
So nothing useful there.
@melak47 Thanks! :D
 
no problem
beware, macros and enums are orange! :p
 
@melak47 Haha. I'll see in a bit.
 
Macros should be red, preferably flashing :)
 
@melak47 Functions aren't colored?
 
7:32 PM
nope
 
@DeadMG I, for one, am looking forward to that. Sounds entertaining
 
types are colored. that's it
 
Hey @melak47 - did you ever find your strings, or are they still loose about the countryside, (or maybe airside at Sheremetyevo airport:).
 
user142019
@Xeo What is isElem?
 
user142019
(3 `elem`) :v
 
7:34 PM
@MartinJames it's not the strings. something else is broken
 
Xeo
@rightfold From Bartosz' blog
 
@melak47 OK, I'm not upgrading anytime soon:)
 
Xeo
@rightfold Yeah, I know.
 
@Tuntuni it's not hard to change, I think there's even an extension that makes changing syntax highlighting colors easier
 
user142019
(∈) = elem
 
7:36 PM
@melak47 Indeed. I like the the green on a dark background. :D Name of the extension btw?
 
idk, never used it
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes wait, no, that can't be right
 
@MooingDuck I think google is pulling your leg :p
 
@melak47 It's also false lorum ipsum text once I checked
Only the first like 10 words are right
you know, I never really thought about how std::initializer_list works when you initialize it with the return values of functions.
 
Wow, I absolutely love VS2013's git support.
 
7:49 PM
does it also have Mercurial support?
 
@DeadMG I don't think so. Looks like the best option might be this extension. Hopefully it gets updated for VS12 then?
 
Can someone help me delete this?
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A: static_cast not working on precedence as expected

AntonioThere have been many efforts here (also through other similar questions) to understand, almost to justify why this happens, and it might be that the standard specifically say that this is the correct behaviour (but in a very tangled way). My opinion is that this feature (template specialization ...

 
:O
I just got to 1,500 rep.
I managed to gain some 200 rep doing absolutely nothing. :D
@chris Not by a long shot, unfortunately.
That'll take some time.
 
I gained 70 rep yesterday basically for saying "you cannot do what you want".
 
it'll probably get reversed
 
7:56 PM
@ScottW Woo! 'Grats. :D
( Tell everybody to use cowboy_cast, okay? )
:D
The world is your oyster~
... Is that the right expression?
I hope it is.
 
Yay~
My English is Lightness-approved~
—xù—
—š™˜™šy›Ø~{ÔæÝ®šš®—n
 
8:14 PM
@ScottW Life is so much better when you feel better. If quitting your job is what it takes to make that happen, go for it
 
@ScottW I think your job sucked.
routine?
Depends on what you're doing during that time.
Oh, do you mean "schedule"?
 
Xeo
template<template<class...> class... TTs, class... ... Tss> void f(TTs<Tss...>... vs);
do want
 
@ScottW Aaah.
What's your ideal schedule, then?
 
Xeo
@ScottW Become a freelancer!
 
@Xeo That has a high tendency to suck.
 
8:24 PM
... I never realized how off-the-wall Steve Ballmer actually was. o.0
 
@ThePhD any specific illustration with that?
 
@ThePhD wtf. no kidding
 
Dammit. MIT vs BSD vs CC0.
 
8:33 PM
hmm
 
Installed VS2013 on my laptop this morning, took nearly an hour
 
perhaps I should switch to a view-based AST
 
MIT and CC0 should be compatible?
 
@ThePhD no?
 
BSD however has that no-attribution clause.
 
8:34 PM
MIT is copyright, CC0 is PD.
 
Oooh.
Right.
 
@ThePhD: You put gtest in your list of Clang/LLVM libs :P
 
@DeadMG gtest? o.0
 
Ambrosia was under CC0. Now I realise I might want some people to actually mention me later on...
 
@rubenvb zlib, MIT might work out then?
 
8:37 PM
@ThePhD yeah. I guess MIT is best.
Also doesn't have that irritating "Regents of California" thing BSD does.
 
@Borgleader He's pretty high-strung sometimes, I guess.
 
#pragma comment(lib, "llvm_headers_do_not_build.lib")
 
@DeadMG o.0
=[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[
MY PURREQUEST
It has been declined.
q_________________q I give up I'm going to jump off of a bridge fuck my life.
 
I'll have you know it took me four hours to update LLVM and Clang.
 
That's good -- so you have the latest LLVM and Clang?
 
8:44 PM
I do
but I think that I just made everything a lot worse :P
 
=[
 
my code was broken before in some way I don't understand, and now it's way more broken
 
I was able to build and run with the latest LLVM and Code before you made those additional changes in CAPI and Wide.
 
dammit. make_unique got complicated.
 
the real crime is
 
8:45 PM
Hello, Lounge!
 
now I'm going to have to rebuild LLVM and Clang for VS2012
 
lol
 
since the Preview seems fucked
 
Dat initializer list and move semantic stuff.
I honestly think I was better off with the November CTP.
 
agree
the debugger seems quite broken
 
8:49 PM
Soo... who wants to work at Google?
 
been there, done that :P
 
@Mysticial If you promise not to make me use UE4, I'll do it.
 
@Mysticial I would. But not right now :P
 
Apparently, they will give me a not-so-small amount of money for anyone I refer that gets hired.
 
user142019
Apparently, I like “Lambda calculus” on Facebook.
 
8:51 PM
I already have a few of your names in the list. (although I'm having trouble finding out who exactly some of you are) :)
 
user142019
@Mysticial Not me I hope (I'd be a disaster for Google).
 
@ThePhD is UE4 so terrible?
 
@Mysticial Funny thing: I got contacted by a "Technical Sourcer" some time ago.
It almost sounds like sourcerer
 
lol
 
@melak47 There is no documentation. Their code is a spaghetti'd out over a crapload of files which are not consistent in their scheme (1-file for each major unit, a single .h file but two .cpp files with pretty unrelated names and vice versa).
Their editor is not made to be extensible, so I can't make it do what I want it to do without attemping to directly inject my own code in and modify the source -- which proves extremely problematic, because there's no documentation! :3c
 
8:56 PM
@ThePhD where does one take a look at the source? :3
 
Buy License the engine
 
There's people like @Luc and @Xeo who I'd like to enter into the system. But I can't find any shit about you guys other than what your favorite Anime shows are from chat.
 
Xeo
lol
 
rofl
 
@Mysticial you work at google, and you can't find out more than that? You have much to learn...
 
8:57 PM
No samples for how to extend the editor, no advice, just.. ... nothing.
I'm on my own with 3-pages of a Designer brain-dump for expectations of what they want this new editor to do for them.
 
@melak47 At the very list, I need a name and contact info. haha
Xeo did link his twitter on his profile though. :)
 
And after a week of banging my head against UE4, I'm truly convinced it's really not production-ready. =/
 
@Mysticial s/list/least/
 
But what does the Intern know? I'm new here. :3c
 
Xeo
@Mysticial And I linked my C++ proposal before, which contained my real name and contact info
Same with the Puppy
 
8:58 PM
@melak47 You sacrifice 10 virgins and 5 female goats.
 
@ThePhD I heard that from somebody else too.
 
@not-TonyTheLion so dude... should I actually expect you to come over or what?
 
Xeo
But I think it might be hard to map between "Xeo" and my real name other than that. Haven't tried.
 
But I need at least a fucking name to enter into the system.
That's the beauty of Stack Overflow, you find all these great and awesome people. But you have no fucking clue who they are! :)
 
Xeo
Also, I don't think Luc even wants anyone to come close to his real identity.
 
9:01 PM
Riiiight.
 
Xeo
He wouldn't even talk about what game he was playing
@Mysticial Btw, many here use their real name, no?
Or are they not considered "great and awesome people"? ;)
 
Hmm.
 
Xeo
Hm. Now that I think about it, I can't seem to remember @rightfold's real name, that he had on here for a while.
I only remember "daknok"
 
user142019
@Xeo Radek Slupik
 
Xeo
Ah, right
 
9:04 PM
I just threw out a few random examples.
 
user142019
I'm great and awesome.
 
Me too.
 
Xeo
Also, I wouldn't (be able to) switch anyways, I think.
Since my trial period just ended I like the atmosphere here :P
 
user142019
@Mysticial Just ask the NSA.
 
lol
 
Xeo
9:08 PM
@rightfold Should be able to just ask his boss.
:P
 
fuck. qmake doesn't see .c++ files as C++. But I can select the extension in the Qt Creator GUI as the default.
reminds me of why I'm writing a build system.
*g++*:QMAKE_CFLAGS += -x c++ -std=c++11
There, fixed.
 
@Borgleader Really?
@Mysticial Take in @BartekBanachewicz. :D
Also FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF Clang. =[
 
lol
having fun? :P
 
>.>
Maybe...
What monster created this? =[
 
welcome to Clang
 
9:22 PM
Why doesn't it just take a blob of bytes for each source file? ;~;
 
Ell
Hi guys
 
@ThePhD You actually can make it do that
look in the SourceManager or FileManager (welcome to Managerland)
they have a function for pretending that a memorybuffer is a file
 
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A: Propose a privilege to sit in the 500 reputation mark

Monica CellioGrant chat privs. Currently a user needs 20 rep to chat, but on some sites we often see a problem where a new user shows potential (worth investing in) but doesn't "get it" yet. I'd like to be able to get a user like that into chat, because the alternative is a conversation in comments -- an an...

 
@DeadMG .... Managers ;~; Managers everywhere.
 
Ell
I'm bored
 
9:26 PM
inorite
 
lol Clang uses Managers too?
 
It's business code.
What did you expect?
 
Clang is better than GCC, but that's about all that can be said for it.
it's business code written to solve a difficult and complex problem in a very primitive language (they have a GSG-like style guide)
 
@rubenvb Something decent.
 
@Rapptz It's the best available, and it's free and as open as you can hope for.
Help make it better if you feel up to it :P
 
9:30 PM
lol
New privilege page is cool.
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A: Propose a privilege to sit in the 500 reputation mark

GillesI've found that a common problem on Stack Exchange is that a question isn't reaching the right audience who could evaluate it, edit it if necessary, decide whether to close it, and (let's not forget that) answer it. A very important aspect of a question that determines its effective audience is i...

So they removed retagging from 500 rep and he wants it back?
 
Xeo
@Rapptz lol
 
user142019
@Rapptz clang is written in Java.
 
Jun 24 at 10:54, by not-sehe
@ApprenticeHacker ... The ape would say something about "when everybody is driving the other direction" ...
^ so , just to demonstrate my point:
A serious case of "Everybody is driving the wrong lane but me!" here. Such people can't be helped, but we have to limit the damage they do.
 
Xeo
A const& f(){ return A(); }Xeo 1 min ago
I love talking in code.
 
@not-sehe The Paperclip knows even the future.
 
9:41 PM
Only because it was patterned on the past :)
 
oooh, sweet borderless sexiness is mine
 
new monitor?
 
oh no, playing with xlib :P
to be fair, removing the borders is a rather simple task, but still :P
 
still? I recall you were doing that in 2011 (or jan 2012)?
 
yeah, I was playing around with cats stuff when he was working on windowing library
 
9:48 PM
@ThePhD Yes
 
@Borgleader Who from?
 
@thecoshman I do recall
 
@thecoshman When?
 
since he has given up, I've started working on my own
 
@ThePhD You don't know him. He's not from SO
 
9:48 PM
@Borgleader Ah. Where'd he work at?
 
@not-sehe that you do
 
Needs more affirmatives
 
@ThePhD I forget
 
Mmm.
 
@not-TonyTheLion well... yeah. Is there serious intent to come over?
 
9:49 PM
So, how's life everybody?
 
@thecoshman Yeah, but more like the end of July
 
@not-TonyTheLion ooooh cool stuff :D
 
@ThePhD Life's alright
 
@ThePhD Trying to fix LLVM and Clang... rebuilding with VS2012 didn't go so well
 
@DeadMG It built all the necessary pieces right out of the box for me.
 
9:51 PM
it usually does for me
it just didn't this time
 
@DeadMG You tried building with VS2013 and it blew up in your face so youre going back to 2012?
 
I built the full LLVM suite with like 6-12 failing programs, x86 x64 Debug Release
@Borgleader VS2013 blows up in its own face. The compiler's initializer_list -- and subsequently failure to move things -- concerns me greatly.
 
@Borgleader yup
 
I clicked to close a Q as a dupe, typed in some search terms, hit enter reflexively to search, and it filed a close vote as a dupe for some random unrelated question. :(
 
Xeo
@MooingDuck ow
 
9:53 PM
I mean, it's totally a dupe, just not of the one I selected.
 
user142019
haha fail
 
user142019
@ThePhD Awesome.
 
ooh, I keep finding myself posting comments too soon, as I hit enter to select spell check corrections form the right click menu.
 
user142019
School is almost over.
 
Ell
I have 4 weeks
 
9:54 PM
damn kids
 
Ell
@thephd life is pretty good
 
user142019
So I get to work again. :D
 
Ell
How about you?
 
user142019
Finally going to do something useful with my life again, and acquiring money in the meantime.
 
9:56 PM
@Ell I'm alright.
 
@thecoshman How do we know its actually him?
 
You don't know how to read?
 

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