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10:00 PM
then when you deal with physics units like newton = kgm/s^2
and other things, it really doesn't matter cause you just have to do it
 
The issue is the base. Not if 1 m should really be 1.5 m.
 
simple cases are like converting si to se other cases you have to account for fundamental differences
 
I just saw the vid up there. That's what other programmers are doing in there freetime?
Nobody will believe me...
 
I'm trying to figure out how to program spi flash for intel atom in my free time
 
That's sounds funny too :)
 
10:04 PM
intel won't disclose proper documentation either unless i start a reputable buissness and then sign a CNDA with them
which is impossible
 
Just as always, isn't it ?
I mean the first sentence not the last ;D
 
i don't get what you mean just as always isn't it
 
We programmers are those who find solutions for stuff which was impossible ;D
 
yeah I am going to try and just work it out myself
 
Now you get what I mean :D
So you don't have any documentation for the SPI flash?
 
10:06 PM
I have some
but it's incomplete
or not self contained
In order to operate in descriptor mode i need to know how to format the flash descriptor
so i need a memory structure or map
 
If you don't know you can make the flash unsuable...
 
for that
 
*unusable
 
i am designing the board
so it's unusable already till i get some firmware on it
yeah but i need basically details for the flash layout and then a one to one map from flash perspective memory to the cpu memory
 
just reminds me of the stuff I would like to do but I have not time for. something like programming a logic block to be usable as digital/analog converter for a 8 bit microcontroller
 
10:09 PM
yeah like that
 
It's on the same level. Just on hardware level :D
 
except the microcontroller probably has good documetation cause they want people to develop their stuff, intel just wants certain people /company's it picks to develop for it
 
haha yes that's true xD
It's very well documented.
 
Another avenue to consider is their academic outreach department. Sometimes they give free stuff away.
 
what im gonna try and do is just write the fist intruction or reset vector to jump to every other address on the flash and work out to write the code segment and instruction pointer back to the flash, should be able to work some stuff out
 
10:12 PM
What do you mean with that @Mikhail
 
but still problem with the flash descriptor, it needs to be good enough to get the thing to boot in descriptor mode
 
It's nearly impossible to find out how your flash memory works @marshalcraft ...
A while ago my father told me about the old times once the transistors were big as my finger xD
However, I have to go. Good luck @marshalcraft with your project :)
 
well im hoping if i get the device together and working minimally maybe i can get them to sign an nda with me so i can get the flash descriptor layout, and trusted execution engine opcode so that it can run fully in descriptor mode
you know to have some tangible evidence that i have a working device which requires their assistance
 
@Borgleader lolol, so real! :D
 
10:47 PM
@Borgleader lol
 
11:01 PM
@ArthurM. You can still get them of that size for larger currents/etc
 
11:40 PM
Does anyone find siri of any real use other than entertainment when bored?
 
autistic kids
 
@Borgleader :(
It's okay dog, I forgive you
 
@Mikhail please explain?
 
11:45 PM
entertainment when bored
 
He's able to practice communication skills he doesn't have, which is somewhat educational
 
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