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nwp
12:00 AM
@Puppy because the guide said so and I didn't know any better
 
@nwp Oh, it's a laptop? That's impressive!
 
nwp
@Mysticial It has heat issues though. I will pay more attention to that for the next one.
 
@nwp I figure it's not a gaming laptop?
The only laptop I've ever had that's not a netbook and that didn't overheat under load is my current gaming laptop.
And even then, it would still overheat when I overclock it. But that doesn't really count.
My guess is that the gaming laptops are designed to handle a high-end video card. So they'll have no problems with just a CPU running maxed out.
 
nwp
They marketed it as a gaming laptop, not quite sure how to make the distinction.
 
oh
 
nwp
12:07 AM
according to sensors the CPU is at +97.0°C (high = +84.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) and the GPU at +91.0°C (crit = +120.0°C), so the CPU tends to be more sensitive.
 
Holy shit. What are you running? Anything above 90C makes be gulp for a laptop CPU.
And for desktops, 80C.
 
holy hell, my previous laptop has been turning off at 89°C
 
nwp
it is this one in the lowest configuration except for RAM
 
My Ivy Bridge laptop throttles at 105C. Which it easily hits when I run anything AVX-heavy.
So it pisses me off when I'm trying to benchmark or tune something.
 
12:12 AM
All about that liquid cooling fam
 
@GManNickG Do you consider AIOs as water cooling?
 
Those temps are terrifying...
 
Technically it is, but some people don't consider it "real water cooling" since it's the lazy approach.
One problem I see with laptop water coolers is that they might have trouble getting through airport security.
 
nwp
Someone mentioned that germans are paranoid and tend to go through airports with clean harddrives. I think I would consider that too, depending on where I'm going.
Although it might not even help, so being oblivious might be the best.
 
@Mysticial I once sent this GPU heavy code to a collaborator, and proudly proclaimed it ran in 15ms. The guy called me a fucking liar and showed benchmarks with it going at 30ms, on the same GPU. Turns out the guy didn't have the AC power plugged in.
Also amusing
 
12:26 AM
Oo, great, another app that I need to update in the next few weeks
I pretty much have to update all my apps in the next 2-3 months or so
 
Do you seriously make apps about cats for a living? I thought this was some long, drawn out, trolling attempt.
 
because obsolete libraries and discontinued/updated services
@Mikhail I don't, I have 2 rental properties
but I do have a company and a bunch of apps on the market that I have written and maintain myself
 
Cool, sorry for being rude.
 
hello. I'm looking for a keyword to search for "Graph Diff". Essencially, i'm looking for "C" in A- b = C. Where A, B and C are graphs.
 
networkx + python
 
12:36 AM
How about the theoretical part? any algo names?
 
12:50 AM
Also depends on how you align the vertices of the graphs. You get different results depending on how you relate the vertices on each graph.
 
1:01 AM
@Mysticial Yup
 
1:49 AM
Quite a stat from Pew: 52% of low-income Republicans now say federal govt should make sure people have healthcare… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/821087317041565697
 
2 l8 now, low income earner elected trump
now crying over spilt milk for health care
sometimes poor is by (subconscious) choice
 
@Borgleader heh
 
@jaggedSpire :)
 
@Borgleader :)
 
 
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3:15 AM
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Q: How to Get ConnectEx() pointer

Mr JhonI'm using MS Detours and I want get the ConnectEx() pointer but is load at run time, how to get pointer and use with MS Detours?

People who haven't mastered pointers trying to do OS development/root kit writing.
 
Always a source of mixed comedy and concern
 
how else do you master pointers though
 
> but is load at run time
well duh
did you expect to load the pointer to a system function at compile time
 
But they told me the interrupt vector table was always at a fixed address!
Also failing to understand pointers isn't the same thing as "using MS Detours"
 
3:57 AM
> g++-trunk (GCC) 7.0.0 20170119 (experimental)
let’s see what this year’s got
 
 
2 hours later…
holy fuck
I just got this popup page
this is the most cancerous popup I've ever had
constantly tries to go fullscreen
fake 'create more dialog buttons'
fake embedded page
autoplaying sound
 
@orlp Indian dudes are so desperate..
mirrored from winfirewallwarning.in
 
6:30 AM
@orlp Grandmother got the same thing. She could not figure out how to close the tab.
 
@orlp Where is it coming from?
Firefox on Linux did not seem to have any problem closing it.
 
I uh encountered it on a ehm adult website
 
@orlp Haha, I thought as much.
@orlp Which brings a question, where did @orlp's grandmother find it? Haha.
 
7:07 AM
"Can everyone read the code on the slide?" "Not really." <enlarges text> "Better?" "No, it's still Scala."
 
user1804599
7:35 AM
@Geetha function from text to std::array<unsigned char, 4>.
 
Ven
Hi
 
 
1 hour later…
8:46 AM
@LucDanton lol
 
hi
 
exFAT ... so it's no longer fat?
 
kitty trigger word
 
also I have a toothache, started this morning
 
9:08 AM
hi
 
2:30 is a dentist's favorite time
 
"tooth hurty"
 
dentists usually need appointment
tooth pains are generally not considered urgent
 
lol
10 hours ago, by szpanczyk
you're a jerk mystical
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I know that cherrypicking things out of context is bad but this is perfect out of context :D
 
9:13 AM
between less tooth pain and delicious food, I chose delicious food, I will never be an exFat ~_~ </trollololo>
 
9:34 AM
> Keep your fingers on the home row for quicker editing with support for QWERTY and BEPO layouts.
huh, I guess today is the day I try spacemacs cc @Ven
 
Ven
;D
 
I was almost put off by the 'mnemonic' pillar but if there is some bépo consideration that’s a relief
 
Ven
Meh. It's mostly very nice to use because I don't need to move my hands. "Mnemonic"...
 
are the bindings crowded or do I have a hope of binding the leader away from space? I don’t think my thumb is up for that
why not use one of the index fingers ._.
 
Ven
you can set the leader key in the config (that's SPC f e d. file emacs dotfile)
Actually I need to be clearer.
The leader key is , in spacemacs. The spc is the prefix key.
 
9:41 AM
fwiw the piece of docs I saw called space the primary leader and comma the secondary
 
Ven
it's confusing because the comma is from evil-leader
 
I actually rarely use the leader in Vim tbh
 
Ven
I use it for vim stuff and some other minor stuff
 
Ven
but I now prefer SPC to : :)
@BartekBanachewicz soon™ they'll have replies
 
9:43 AM
@Ven that's basically replies
 
Ven
I forgot your were immune to humor/sarcasm/...
 
Well, replies here can form a tree, which I'm not sure Slack can do but
 
Ven
might be better
 
@Ven so the important question, which editing style do you use?
> Spacemacs has 10 states:
modes intensify
 
Ven
@LucDanton vim.
I know the emacs keybindings – I used standalone emacs for a few months. Ultimately I prefer vim by a long shot.
 
9:50 AM
what about hybrid then? seems funky (although I don’t know anything about emacs myself)
I guess insert mode doesn’t matter
 
Ven
@LucDanton hybrid is vim, but with emacs keybinds in insert mode.
 
right, hence the question
 
Ven
So you can use i.e. C-f or C-b in insert mode.
twice as many keybindings to remember, but you aren't lost to the arrw keys when in insert mode ;-)
of course, vimmers will argue you should just go back to normal mode if you're not entering text.
 
I don’t see how there’s anything to argue
joking aside, I asked in case there were insert-related emacs things to perform
 
Ven
well, no one forces you :P
 
9:59 AM
woops I forgot an 'interesting' in there
 
Ven
they're a bit too weird to actually use reliably.
I had C-hjkl bound in insert mode to the movements
though you can use C-f C-b (char), C-n C-p (line), or M-f M-f (word), as well as C-a C-e (end/beginning of line), M-a M-e (of sentence)
 
10:36 AM
TIL that one cannot make_unique private ctor.
 
There should be a std::make_unique_access that one can friend :/
No, wait, that doesn't work.
It kinda makes the ctor public.
 
bite the bullet and do the key thing?
 
or a private builder object that you pass to make unique?
 
@ratchetfreak That's the "key thing".
 
10:43 AM
ah
 
Though that's a weird example where the class itself is not supposed to call the ctor; only a different one is.
 
where the key lives doesn't really matter, just that the factory can create one and the constructor can take one
 
> Different types of rail track in different countries mean the same train cannot travel the whole route and so the containers have to be removed and reloaded onto different carriages at several stages of the journey.
we should make a new rail standard for everyone
 
@BartekBanachewicz if the cargo train is electric that's an additional hurdle, as even with the same gauge the supply can be different
 
I don't think it was electric
it was the first train to go from China to the UK, altough since the containers had to be repacked, I'd actually question whether it was the very same train at all
 
10:53 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Theseus' Train.
 
Eh, looks like I missed last night's drama D:
 
@Ven I'm doing alright, kinda sick and it's p polluted these days. And yourself?
 
Ven
we have snow
so it's fucking up traffic real bad.
 
@Luc Encore une vidéo intéressante et barbue
 
@Ven We don't.
 
11:00 AM
nan c’était chiant et prévisible
 
Ven
yet another Paris is superior
 
in the concentration of jerks and bad smell yes it is
 
> fucking up traffic
> superior
 
@LucDanton tu es diphicile
 
@Morwenn they have traffic
 
11:03 AM
D'ailleurs, question imbibée d'interrogation : tu aimes Achille Talon ?
 
@CheukKinSing pas touché depuis un bail mais oui
 
Achille Talon, c'est la vie.
 
ah, enphin des gens de qualiter
 
Ven
@Morwenn we have good public transport and I don't have a driving license anyway. :P
 
> It seems that you are not located in HongKong, and that the closest city from your location is Barwon Downs (distance 5066KM).
what
 
Ven
11:06 AM
time for a jog?
 
I mean even assuming it's mislocating me, how come the closest city is 5066 km away? XD
Am I the middle of the ocean or what
 
maybe you stepped into a rocket which you thought was your bus
 
@CheukKinSing Barwon Downs seems pretty close to Melbourne o_O
 
Yeah I think it's a bug
 
Ven
how dare you
 
Ell
12:01 PM
Hi
It's so quiet today. It's like you people want me to get some work done or something.
 
user1804599
@Ell Learn PureScript.
 
Ell
Nahh
I'm learning idris already
And it has a JavaScript backend
 
Learn how to love.
 
Ell
I have nobody to love :'( </3
 
Too bad.
Do you have something to love?
 
12:17 PM
Sup guys
 
user1804599
@tldr__lol @alicemazzy rust will not be good until they add hkt the type system is good but crippled
 
user1804599
I like this guy.
 
Finally a funny project to carry out
 
Xeo
12:37 PM
oh no. SO's theme changed
now my styling is broken
fuck. don't wanna fix...
 
Ell
@Morwenn food :D
 
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A: Phase Two of Top Navigation Testing Begins Soon!

MgetzPlease add a dark theme, this is so bright it hurts my eyes. If that's not possible please introduce a little color to reduce the amount of white on the page. It's pretty atrocious at the moment and makes the site hard to use.

 
@Ell Good choice :D
 
Ven
12:53 PM
@rightfold he said C was a good language in his earlier tweet.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
AJS
guys
anyone have any idea about Morwenn
 
Ell
Btw @wilx and @Morwenn, prime implicants are ones where you can't expand the "bubble" in the karnaugh map
@AJS sigh there is a site for that morwenn.stackexchange.com
 
AJS
Couldn't find morwenn.stackexchange.com
10
can u tell me somthng about him
 
nwp
1:06 PM
 
Thanks :p
 
Ven
lolwat
 
No more than your regular drama ^ _^
 
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Pretty funny. :)
 
1:21 PM
I also don't understand why people compare Go with Rust. If you need a GC-less programming language: Rust; if you need a board game: Go.
 
@tldr__lol @leonidasfromxiv As a lection on how a modern programming language should not look like?
lol
 
Ven
I also don't understand why people compare Go with Rust. If you need a GC-less programming language: Rust; if you need a board game: Go.
this one is pretty good as well.
 
nwp
@Ven look 3 messages up
 
Huh. Dupe?
 
Ven
1:26 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I was answering @nwp
 
4 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
I also don't understand why people compare Go with Rust. If you need a GC-less programming language: Rust; if you need a board game: Go.
 
Ven
ah
 
Ven
My bad :). I've had him blocked for a long time now
 
hi
is it possible to crawle facebook users data? the public ones? is there a crawler?
 
Ven
1:27 PM
go away
also it's pomme not pome
 
grave
 
@Ven You have blocked Robot? lol. I cannot imagine why.
 
@Ven ...are you serious
 
Ven
@Griwes .of course?
 
1:30 PM
o.O
 
Ell
lol guys look at this fun tweet
I also don't understand why people compare Go with Rust. If you need a GC-less programming language: Rust; if you need a board game: Go.
 
il marche plus il court là
 
@Ell needs more reposts
I also don't understand why people compare Go with Rust. If you need a GC-less programming language: Rust; if you need a board game: Go.
 
@Ven why should I go away xD I'm really asking because of the authentifications and so on, I have to write my Bachelor Thesis in this field and I'm an absolut beginner and just wanted to start somewhere :)
 
1:32 PM
I know that my question sounds very noobi
 
Ven
@PomeGranate you don't start by asking question about facebook in a lounge
 
nwp
@PomeGranate have you tried typing "facebook crawler" into the address bar of your browser?
 
@Ven Why the fuck do you have Robot plonked? Are you just a delicate snowflake? (That'd fit the event of you leaving Discord... Hmm. This seems to be a proper scientific theory at this time.)
 
Ven
@Griwes I didn't leave discord because I was offended O_o
I left discord because I didn't want to install discord at work, and thus wasn't here often.
 
> install discord
 
Ven
1:34 PM
@Griwes I plonked robot because he's often worst than rightfold when it comes to hearing himself talk, and that's utterly annoying.
 
That's... an even worse reason (since that is so blatantly not true).
 
Ven
> embrace anarchy
 
@Ven what
 
whatever
does it really matter that someone plonks people
 
lol hi
I came for the drama
 
Ven
1:35 PM
yo slappy
 
nwp
@slaphappy oh, I thought you came to post funny tweets
 
Ven
@milleniumbug idk it's griwes that's insisting. I'm fine with how things are
 
@Ven @nwp hey ok easy, I mean when you were very interested in that field, you would probably answer different - but you are right :) I just wanted to discuss and maybe there would be someone who already has done something like that
 
Ell
@milleniumbug it doesn't
 
@Ell ikr
 
1:36 PM
oh lol, I forgot this gem: stackoverflow.com/questions/7968674/…
 
@nwp that's for my twitter. but I wouldn't recommend.
 
@Rerito hilarious
 
Ven
@Griwes it's so true it was even a discord meme I only say "hi" :<
 
have fun hashing URLs
 
Back to common maps then lol
 
1:37 PM
or write your own hash function object
 
yeah
 
hahahhaa if you have an url like https://www.????????? then you have literally one character it can disambiguate shit
 
@Griwes lol
 
> Je lis l'avenir dans les numéros de carte de crédit (sans oublier le code de sécurité).
 
"je vois.... je vois un compte à découvert"
@Ven of all people in this room you have robot plonked?
 
Ven
1:42 PM
@CheukKinSing I went as far as to post the list, and explain why, tu peux arrêter c'est bon
 
lol attention outrage à fleur délicate
 
Ven
celle la aussi griwes l'a faite
 
and sbi too XD
Madara I can understand
 
@CheukKinSing IRTA as zeubi
 
To plonk Abyx is maaaaybe understandable but then again picking on someone weaker than you is not cool
How come I don't see telkitty on that list
 
Ven
1:44 PM
my brain adapted to ignore those
i'd rather talk with telkitty than robot
8
 
Do you also drive in the reverse direction on a highway
 
Ven
I drink too often to drive
 
@Ven Il copie mon humour (ça se comprend)
 
do you remember when tomalak ragequit over the highway quip
 
1:46 PM
lrio
 
don't know who that is
 
ugh shut up
it's like the guy who ragequit over a shared_ptr
 
Ven
;)
 
who was that
I remember @khajvah ragequit over "your mom" jokes
 
@slaphappy it seems he doesn't like to... share
YEEEEAH
 
1:47 PM
There was also that guy who ragequit over a « yo mama » joke.
Ugh...
 
14 hours ago, by szpanczyk
Aaron well, perhaps all I did was my frustrated attempt to show the people around that they have3 a lot of room to improve as people?
 
@Morwenn Morwenn do you have me plonked or what
 
This is good drama.
 
@CheukKinSing I should.
 
Ven
de course.
 
1:48 PM
probably
 
Always a good idea to do preemptively
Before the jokes get too bad
 
BTW @slaphappy did you notice my team was moved? We're like outcasts now
 
heyyy yaaa
 
And our new office is overheated
 
Ven
ah, slap. the guy who promised me wonders and gold, but never called back.
 
1:51 PM
No I didn't notice. I didn't see your hot teammate lately so I have no reason to glance over at your desk
 
(Can't figure out who that might be)
 
@Ven I did forward your resume to the guy in charge, but I think he's too lazy to take care of an intern.
 
Ven
hehe
 
Sorry :/
 
1:52 PM
Is the "guy in charge" the guy I think?
 
no
 
@Griwes I don't understand it either.
 
> When I was beginning to learn the basics as a young person, my dad would say to me, “What makes you think that when you’re done with all this that thing will run?”
I thought a moment and said, “Because I know that if the engine has timing, fuel, ignition, and compression, it has no choice. Physics obliges it to run.”
inspiring
 
Ven
not rly
 
2:04 PM
@BartekBanachewicz or the engine can explode but it will have run for a very short while
 
Ven
if it ran for half a second..
 
that's something
I still can't wrap my head around cast cylinders and pistons
it sounds so unreal that the metal itself is so durable that it doesn't matter how you put it into shape, it will just work
 
That's a property of solids in general, no?
 
Ell
@slaphappy I don't remember that
I just remember him being gone
@BartekBanachewicz electricity is the future >:D
not this primitive combustion nonsense ;)
 
nwp
Jan 11 at 10:30, by Bartek Banachewicz
diesel is the future
 
@Ell electric engines are in a way more 'primitive' than ICEs. Besides, there's still marine and avionics and whatnot
also yeah, rockets
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes doesn't this show that it's the future? :P
we're not using it currently
so it must be the future :D
 
Ell
they're still in use!
 
2:20 PM
@BartekBanachewicz IRTA electric engines are in a way more 'primitive' than internal compiler errors.
 
Ell
I think nuclear propulsion will be the future of rockets
 
@Ell FWIW, so do spacecraft with electrical propulsion.
Dawn is a space probe launched by NASA in September 2007 with the mission of studying two of the three known protoplanets of the asteroid belt, Vesta and Ceres. It is currently in orbit about its second target, the dwarf planet Ceres. Dawn is the first spacecraft to orbit two extraterrestrial bodies, the first spacecraft to visit either Vesta or Ceres, and also the first to visit a dwarf planet, arriving at Ceres in March 2015, a few months before New Horizons flew by Pluto in July 2015. Dawn entered Vesta orbit on July 16, 2011, and completed a 14-month survey mission before leaving for Ceres...
 
Ell
yeah, honestly my original statement was about ground travel so I can no longer defend myself :P
 
2:35 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Actually, the way you shape it does make a pretty serious difference, at least in some cases. For one obvious example, a forged part can be substantially stronger than a cast part, even though they're the same shape, mass, etc. Most engines, however, are specified so that cast parts are adequate.
 
@Ven I am honoured to be in such exquisite company. :) /cc @R.MartinhoFernandes @sbi
 
This is largely an economic decision, not a technical one though. It basically comes down to the fact that the extra cost of forging vs. casting is greater than the savings in material that could be realized by using forging. When cost becomes less of an object (e.g., race cars) forged parts become much more common.
 
@JerryCoffin The very last sentence was what gets me
 
there's also tempering/hardening which can change properties of the metals
 
2:43 PM
@Ell it was a long time ago
@Ell you were still a child
 
Ell
I remember him posting the lat/long of his house :D
accidentally
 
The spacex video is basically ksp
 
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