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8:25 PM
Wut
 
8:36 PM
Yeah. That's weird.
 
Oh wait
is that Cicada?
 
@ThePhD No, cicada is @VeronikaPrüssels
 
Then who's that .-.
 
Official Cicada anyway
 
Ven
putain la balance
 
8:43 PM
@ThePhD CicadaForgery
CicaPuppet
 
@ThePhD can't say the things sound realistic much. The xylo is a joke. It's closer to steel drums. And the image with table edge-struck is that for rolling, I guess. Besides the rolling where the cylinder sounds too makes a noticeably regular noise pattern rolling over the floor.
 
@sehe Yeah, it's still being worked on. The good news is, there's been some advances in water sounds and bubble physics lately and I think teh next SIGGRAPH is going to have some examples.
 
Yeah. It's interesting research but the result until now have me skeptic. They have to introduce realistic chaos and far better modeling of instruments to really get to music
Well. There's always application in synthesized music of course
 
@sehe don't forget, this is academic stuff. Give it to a game dev and watch them do their magic :D
 
ugh
I get what you meant. But... game devs :)
 
8:47 PM
lol
 
"But is the instrument immersive?"
"Can I run the instrument at 1080p60fps?"
 
I just noticed this nice "Bryan Edds" guy I started to notice more and more on my timeline prolly the same guy as the one of the "other" C++ room?
@melak47 They'll just apply a shader and it will be realistic :)
 
an audio shader on the GPU
 
user1804599
Hi
 
@melak47 Incoming "AudioShader".
 
8:50 PM
@sehe yup, he's the offended guy
 
user1804599
What does Kent say when he's getting a drink? "Be right Beck."
 
@milleniumbug That's very funny seeing that he does nothing than oppose codes-of-conducts and rant about it on Twitter
@Zoidberg Oh no, you Kent
 
@sehe timeline?
 
Twitter "home page", so to say
 
bad things?
 
8:53 PM
Oh. Jon wants stock options in local blood pressure medicin, I remember now. Lemme find the courage to respond.
I don't really read those. But the tone turns me mucho off
 
:)
I like his writing a bit but have not read much.
 
I'm not convinced he's the same guy.
It seems so remote from his chat persona
 
I think it is him
@sehe the anger?
 
9:09 PM
Yup
I engaged in another loaded one here myself:
OSS interactions are the worst sometimes. Asked a Q in Ruby IRC channel & response was "they wrote code". No fucking way? I'm so enlightened
People have already played the genderism card in the thread, although I'm really pretty sure kellabyte doesn't want to play that one
 
strange tweet, wonder what she asked
 
I don't. I think she was just in a hurry, and humor tends to rub the wrong way when you're stressed.
@kellabyte Isn't this par for the course in most channels?A humorous jab when a question comes in underspecified at first. Just lol+explain?
 
also not sure why the response is worth a tweet about oss, wtf and move on imo
 
Precisely.
 
@sehe sounds like typical help vampire <-> lounger interaction
 
9:12 PM
Same thing with BryanEdds, really. We don't need every little bit of friction turned into "social epidemic patterns".
@milleniumbug I have tried to put it in that context, politely. People forget how skewed responses get to "the usual influx"
I mean, realistically, every social interaction is bound to be a pattern. But not every pattern is bad.
 
@milleniumbug a bit sad that rudeness is the norm imo
 
There are a lot of patterns in the animal kingdom, in galaxies etc. They just "happen". I marvel and observe
@JohanLarsson I honestly view that as humor. Whenever I say something like that it's never intended rudely.
(Although I can get more curt with stubborn trolls that have shown to not-comprehend, no need to name, I guess)
@JohanLarsson If there's one life skill I've learned from SO it's that it's not bad to kindly point out the "power balance" - if people want my help, they should make the question worthwhile.
 
@sehe but the new guy has no context, i have a feeling a high % of them are not very amused.
 
It is just simple maths: I woudln't enjoy helping if I kept going through the tedious motions to guide people to arrive at a question
 
Not saying anyone must help of course, ignoring is fine.
And of course flaming on spam.
 
9:18 PM
@JohanLarsson I don't think that matters. It's a Q&A environment. The only reason the site works /at all/ is because there's something you can **get** from it.
 
I rarely help driveby askers in the wpf room
 
user1804599
🖖🏻
 
No matter whether they are amused, they will adapt iff they need the help. And they frequently do understand that it helps more people this way
 
@Zoidberg what is it?
 
Peace sign or sumtin
 
user1804599
9:20 PM
@JohanLarsson Spock hand emoji
 
user1804599
Maybe it's Apple-specific. I couldn't find it on fileformat.info.
 
@sehe Lmao.
 
I still need to address Jon. I'll do it in a separate room.
 
I'd probably have the same reaction.
 
People need to understand both sides are missing any contextual clues. Why jump to any conclusions. At all.
 
9:24 PM
@sehe about?
 
4 hours ago, by Jon Clements
thought we'd grown better than this @sehe?
 
discord imo
I'd esitmate discord has around 4x as many messages per day now
and they are very high quality
cat has been seen using full sentences for extended periods
 
Ven
lol
 
@JohanLarsson no kidding
 
Ven
> CatPlusPlus - Today 22:42
> Moving from C++ to HAskell
> rip
wow, I thought you were saying the truth and got scared. But no, cat's still cat
 
9:30 PM
> for extended periods
doesn't mean always
I can witness that it really happened though
 
@JohanLarsson I don't care. It's not working for me. It's not affiliated with SO. I'd rather be here, really.
 
ok, I'm gonna ask again, and again :)
doesn't linux have tabs?
is the browser some kind of commandline monster?
 
LINUX is a kernel
obviously it has no tabs
 
@JohanLarsson There are certainly browsers on Linux (e.g., Firefox) that support tabbed browsing.
 
do you use linux?
 
9:36 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь The speed with which you auto-follow repositories I join is uncanny.
 
@JohanLarsson There's no convo linking. There's no reply navigation. There's not even missed notifications. The chat is not auto scrolling. There's no usable transcript (that I know of). Is there are usable search? No quoting.
 
@JohanLarsson Yes (though I prefer Windows as a rule).
 
Ell
@sehe the reply thing is the killer
it's a reaaal killer
 
It's unusable FULL STOP for me.
 
@sehe @Lalaland wrote a chrome extension that does reply to message. And you can do ?mentions to get a list of pings
 
9:38 PM
I want to be able to weave in and out and have/read conversations at my own pace. If not, I'm just excluded - I could just as well be disabled
@JohanLarsson You know. I tried that. Did you?
 
know that we miss you at least
 
It's laughable.
 
@JohanLarsson Linux obviously knows that spaces are the shit, so no tabs
 
@JohanLarsson That's nice in a way. But it's not gonna change unless discord changes.
 
9:39 PM
@sehe works ok ime
 
@набиячлэвэлиь I so wanted to insert a line about having stabs here, but it's now so obsolete most people wouldn't even get it any more.
 
Discord will change, but slowly
 
I agree that SO-chat is the nicest chat. SO > gitter > discord > slack for me I think
 
for me, almost total absence of trolls and flagging and mods is the killer feature
it's mostly way more relaxed as an environment
 
@JohanLarsson I've tried it twice. I get unformatted dumps of mentions in apparent chronological disorder, and no way to navigate to context. Did I say useless? Also, when you do it again, you'll have to visually disentangle the mess of the repeated dump with the previous time you asked for ?mentions. That shit kills my interest, I don't do visual UI very well
 
9:40 PM
discord has one nice feature: playing gifs on hoover, think they broke it this week :D
 
Vacuum cleaners have screens now
 
What sup
@JohanLarsson Yeah srs
 
there should be an open source thing for chat
dunno how much work it is
 
9:42 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь !
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Come on. I'm wrangling Jon as we speak, and you guys do this.
 
Are you?
I can't see that
I'm not omniescent
 
1 message moved to bin
 
Also it's a lounge meme
 
9:50 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь Does it really matter :)
@набиячлэвэлиь I guess. An meme.
 
They're using Verilog to program bacteria.
 
that's cool a one time activation still warns me to activate, but with the same password the program works.. nice
after hard drive swap and os upgrade
 
this probably means something
@набиячлэвэлиь he made the room private
 
9:58 PM
So it doesn't exist
 
 
I'm merely there to kiss you all a good night, but hi :)
 
hi
 
My work here is done.
 
I'm having tea and waiting for Jon. He's probably putting out fires
@Morwenn Nooooo. Post something to drown out this
Please?
 
10:08 PM
@sehe So, you want... something... happy?
 
Something beautiful
 
Ok. Swallowed the cliché.... Clicking the link
 
@sehe Tommy has a nice voice.
 
10:10 PM
Speaking of something beutiful
 
buttiful*
 
@sehe To be honest, the actual title is « One Man's Dream ».
 
Better
 
But I can't resist a video with drawings by Kagaya.
 
nwp
@sehe do you maybe wanna learn piano?
 
10:11 PM
hahahaha. Yeah. Maybe
 
@sehe first half of this is pretty beautiful imo.
 
> >"Let It Go" remix
> >no airhoirn
 
@JohanLarsson Tommy has some great drumming (especially the Underture).
 
@JerryCoffin nice, gonna listen to it tomorrow, thanks
 
@JohanLarsson Surely. IMO, Quadrophenia is better though (even if the name didn't fit here).
 
10:14 PM
@JerryCoffin more drumming :)
I have never really listened to the who, terrible gap.
 
My favourite drum solo might be one by Yoshiki from X-Japan. It's not impressive from a technical point of view, but it has a really strange atmosphere.
 
@JohanLarsson Call me an old fogey if you will (after all, I am one), but I don't think it compares to Keith Moon (but then, nearly nothing does).
 
@nwp Reminds me of this.
 
@JerryCoffin Sometimes a furious 200 bpm is right though, when having mutable state for example :D
 
10:18 PM
I unleashed an avalanche :)
Or Morwenn did
 
@sehe Apparently you did :p
 
Nice. I'm busy for a while
 
@JohanLarsson If you're into something on that order, there's always Carl Palmer.
 
see like you should be able to CREATE FROM in mysql
 
@JerryCoffin my blood pressure
 
Silly story: at one point, ELP did a tour sponsored by British Steel, who decided to build Carl Palmer a drum kit, so at least for a while, his drum kit occupied most of a truck (and weighed something like 2500 Kg). In case it wasn't obvious: since they were British Steel, they built the whole kit out of stainless steel... :-)
 
Staaahhp
 
I have to sleep someday
 
10:28 PM
Ah, here we go: youtu.be/i9xuO6ARf2c
 
@JerryCoffin have you seen the documentary about when jimi went to england and played with clapton?
 
Sleep is for the weak
 
@набиячлэвэлиь I'll be weak in like 30 minutes.
 
@JohanLarsson Not sure about a documentary specifically about it, but I've listened to an interview with Clapton where he talked about. Said his band-mates were kind of pissed, thinking Jimi was trying to show up Eric, but Eric (at least claims he) was so blown away it didn't bother him at all.
 
The documentary I mean was one where they said something like. 'And Jimi played the hardest parts behind his head etc. Clapton walked of stage and once behind he was shaking so much he could not even light a cigarette'
from memory
 
10:40 PM
one time i felt like my body was having a seizure when i told this big fat guy i've never lost a fight in my life and he almost but didn't hit me with a milk carton, and i kept telling him
considering i didn't flinch and went back to counting
because i mean a milk crate seriously that ain't gonna hurt me
probably a bad choice of weapons all around
beat me with a foozball
 
Nifty, why are you doing this. Are you that desperate for attention? Man.
 
no my brain just says whatever it thinks
sometimes
 
@JohanLarsson He has some nice voice.
@GettingNifty The interesting part is where it types it
 
i don't think that deserves attention.. but i mean it can't hurt traffic, not everyone is a badass
i'm working on it
 
badass is overrated. It's tiresome
 
10:46 PM
@JohanLarsson Nope, pretty sure I haven't see that.
 
Staying awake is tiresome and overrated too, later.
 
@Morwenn Later. Sleep well. Remember to count sheep (not sort them) if you have trouble getting to sleep.
 
counting sheep is also mentally challenging
 
I wrote sorting code today, milleniumbug said it was dumb, he was probably right :)
 
@EtiennedeMartel The sound quality on that is outstanding. How did the get this registration done in those conditions?!?
 
10:53 PM
@JerryCoffin I only count sheeple.
Also count sort is a thing.
 
@JohanLarsson wait, did I? I'd better browse the discord transcript
 
bikechannel
 
@milleniumbug does it even have it
 
no, I just scroll up until I see the messages I'm familiar with
 
@Morwenn When I was a kid, I often dreamed of flying (or at least being able to jump a long ways). I don't remember ever counting steeples though...
 
11:01 PM
@JohanLarsson sorry, it's not much better than the orchestra there imo
 
don't understand, is it bad?
 
@JohanLarsson another great voice in search of better arranging (I still enjoyed it as "raw footage)
 
I like that version of my funny valentine, it is a bit odd but I really like it.
 
@JohanLarsson a bit randomish in technique. It has some wild corners where I just thought it was ugly. The orchestra is pretty undisciplined (part of it is being understaffed, e.g. strings)
 
@sehe Right? It's pretty awesome.
 
11:04 PM
@JohanLarsson he sings it very well; the oddness is in the complete lack of instrumental support, in a way. And when gets to the "is your figure less than greek"... part it seemed he lost interest. He quickly regained interest with the subsequent hight notes. Magnificent.
@JohanLarsson Interestingly, with Elvis I don't mind the lack of technique (it's slightly off pitch in places). It doesn't bother me because it is consistent, integer, honest. The "false" parts fit right in - it doesn't distract (here it helps that the accompaniment is basically void)
 
@sehe chet is not in good shape here, still sounds good.
 
Ell
My bro just did his first traditional animation
 
user406009
@Ell That's quite good!
 
Ell
I think it's quite cool
 
yeah, nice work
 
Ell
11:10 PM
A little low frame rate but I like the style and idea
 
@Ell oh thats pretty neat
 
@JohanLarsson "power" in the 2nd sentence bothers me; "c'ntries' heart" (clipping the vowel), "theeeeeey rise" (big slur; it's ostensibly an untrolled effect of having just breathed), "She iii--ii-is etern[e]l" (beautiful line, he does it well earlier; Here he completely "noses" the "i" as well as that "[e]" - you can't sing an l...). Next line: "naawjshiuns ljaaaines awre drawn"?, .... "when knowwaarmies do". I'll stop.
Basically: chewing the vowels to achieve an effect that should be reach by... singing.
Compare with @EtiennedeMartel's drummer clip. That there is clean shit. Mastery. No fuzzing.
 
oh, you know stuff, way above my head :)
the song is not very good but I like his voice
 
I like the song better than his voice. I really hate how he fakes it. Obviously he can sing. Sometimes it shows. Sadly that's when the registration puts the backing vocals much too prominently
He's bound to be a musical actor. He "tell it" quite well (although the spotted laziness does detract).
@Ell wow. Not bad at all. Character.
 
evenin'
 
11:19 PM
@JohanLarsson Listening now. I didn't know this take
 
me neither, looked for a late version
 
This is late, clearly
I know the one from "Let's get lost". Like it a lot
 
this is the end
This may be one of the best voice/song combos. Don't mind it being a cover at all.
You can probably tear it apart :D
I enjoyed reading the analysis.
I have never sung, not even in the shower.
At least not in the last 30 years that I can remember.
 
@JohanLarsson well. That's gotta be the most "virtuoso-like" solo I've heard from Chet to date. Some bright spots, lots of ... noodling in the beginning. Piano now
 
virtuoso-like is good right?
 
11:27 PM
not per se. It's funny because it's out of style for Chet
Well. They cut the piano solo off. Bastards
 
jazz stream on friday?
 
hmm?
Nah. I've lost interest in streaming for a bit. Once I pick up steam on SO again I will automatically consider streaming it again
 
ok, ping when/if you do
 
@sehe so, never again then
 
are you a streamer luc?
 
11:31 PM
no
 
@LucDanton Possibly
@JohanLarsson Will do
 
I like the use of the... dulcimer?
 
my guess is harp
 
You
Hello
 
11:40 PM
@JohanLarsson nope
 
ok, not arguing, you > me
 
There are many variants of dulcimer/cymbalom/hakkebord or whatnot. But it's clearly one of those :)
 
trifecta never heard of for me :D
 
:D ask Björk
 
lol
 
11:44 PM
lol, what a great security question :D
 
I wonder how many people answer "What is your favorite security question?"
4
 
You just went full meta
 
100% you can use int
 
 
Seems quite insecure, seeing as selecting it as your security question could imply it is your favourite, hence easy to guess the answer to.
 
user406009
11:48 PM
@sehe Do you have the link to the full post?
 
user406009
I really don't know about nest's products.
 
user406009
I really don't care all that much about a smart thermostat.
 
user406009
The dumb one I have works just fine.
 
> cry in the bathrooms
 
@sehe oh boy
 
11:49 PM
 
user406009
@sehe Wow.
 
\define: damning
@Lalaland I have a smart one (programmable, not IoT, of course). I use it as a dumb one. I just like the idea of having a dial, really
 

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