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12:05 AM
@sehe That sounds like startup hell alright
 
Just hell, really
 
@Borgleader That sounds like a bit beyond (what I've seen of) normal startup hell. Normal startup hell mostly involves too much work, too short of deadlines, and other such resource limitations. The rest of it like berating team members and engineers leaving as soon as they can is a whole different story.
 
Weren't they bought out by google not so long ago? Surely resource limitations wouldn't be a problem I'd have thought
 
@ArchbishopOfBanterbury huh. Resources aren't magic. Without market, the resources end.
 
12:18 AM
Well, think this way: there are the same amount of company going up as going down in the long run. So the more money you get (i.e. a couple billion though IPO) the harder it's for the company to sink
 
12:30 AM
Nothing will save a leaking ship though
 
@sehe Usually. There are exceptions--though most such require only minimal resources to start with. There's been an experiment going since 1927 showing that pitch does act as a liquid, even though it's hard enough to shatter if you hit it too hard. The experiment was pretty simple: put some pitch in a funnel, and every once in a while, it drips. Once in a great while--it's dripped only 8 times since the experiment started (in 1927). smp.uq.edu.au/content/pitch-drop-experiment
 
We're talking about the money extraction business. Nothing nowhere near that static or it would be uninteresting to begin with
 
Oh, and just to add to the...excitement, nobody's ever actually seen a drop detach and fall (but they now have two or three web cams running on it, so the next one will probably be recorded).
 
Hahaha
That's tantalizing
 
@sehe Yeah, I know. It just seems like a boring enough topic that something where you wait 15 years (or more) for a drip to happen is probably more interesting. :-)
 
1:14 AM
@Ell Nice
 
1:31 AM
> If taxation is not theft, then the holocaust, or any killing by any state in all of history, is by definition not murder, because the difference between the murder and state sanctioned killing is the same as the difference between theft and taxation, one is technically illegal, and that is all.
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HACKER NEWS EVERYONE
Gold nugget found by @Lalaland
 
@VeronikaPrüssels W. T. H.
 
I have said this long time ago: governments are just mega mafias
 
Go to heckernews
 
you pay 'em protection fees in the expectation of them protecting you and make your community safe and sound
 
also wth is wrong with wikipedia foundation? apparently they refused to pay a license to display some copyrighted works in sweden and then spent 100x the cost of the license on lawyers against the copyright holders
nothing makes sense anymore
 
1:36 AM
ah yes but the lawyers were already budgeted for
 
is this what the giant DONATE ad is for
> If you fuse iron, you wind up with less energy than you had before.
makes perfect sense
 
I think my phone is officially ded
 
user406009
1:53 AM
@ThePhD I wouldn't give up hope so soon.
 
user406009
There are usually workarounds.
 
No.
It won't charge anymore.
And it's been performing badly for the last year.
 
user406009
Have you tried leaving it charging overnight?
 
:v
 
user406009
Worth a shot asking.
 
user406009
1:55 AM
Sometimes, when my phone is like that I have to leave it for a night or two unplugged and then try charging it again overnight.
 
user406009
I don't know my phone is in sorta bad shape.
 
@VeronikaPrüssels it’s cosmic irony
 
user406009
A significant portion of the touchscreen is broken and the camera doesn't work anymore. Luckily, there is an app which duplicates the buttons on the broken part of the touchscreen.
 
I was reading this ad: 'environmental friendly car that emits zero green house gas such as carbon dioxide', I was like 'yeah, but that only because the car uses electricity and the carbon dioxide was emitted at the power station already'
 
user406009
@Telkitty Could have been a nuclear power plant though. Or solar. Or wind. Or whatever.
 
2:06 AM
very small percentage run on solar or wind
nuclear plant would pollute for a longer time, even though it's cleaner at any given time
 
user406009
Eh, I am not really worried about nuclear waste.
 
user406009
Not enough of it is generated to really be a problem.
 
user406009
Just seal it in drums and lock it under ground in a giant concrete vault.
 
typical 'not in my backyard' problem
I am not worried because the nuclear waste is dumped no where near me
 
user406009
@Telkitty At the very least, I would argue that nuclear waste is controllable. CO2 exhaust isn't.
 
2:09 AM
one can grow more trees ... just saying ...
 
user406009
Trees really wouldn't help that much.
 
user406009
They aren't that much of a carbon sink.
 
user406009
> To further reduce U.S. carbon dioxide emissions by 7%, as stipulated by the Kyoto Protocol, would require the planting of "an area the size of Texas [8% of the area of Brazil] every 30 years.
 
simply chop down the trees then replant in the same spot
this is easy
 
2:12 AM
lol
 
I guess if the global warming is going on further enough, one can start planting trees in Antarctica
 
you can use an area half the size of Texas if you do it twice as much, too
 
nah it's an achipelago under all that ice
eventually the land would probably rise without the massive weight of ice, but it'd take a while
like most things involving rocks
 
user406009
@LucDanton That's a lot more effort than burying a couple of barrels of radioactive waste in the desert.
 
rocks don't bother trees
 
2:16 AM
yes but you get firewood out of it
 
@Lalaland radioactive trees, legend!
 
user406009
@LucDanton But if you burn the wood ...
 
user406009
Then all the CO2 just goes right back in the air!
 
user406009
And now you need to grow twice as many trees.
 
you suck, McBain
 
2:17 AM
@LucDanton You should open a blog where you tear down legal texts
I would disable my ad blocker, even.
 
then it would be my 2 cents
 
user406009
A literal penny for your thoughts.
 
user406009
I really wonder what all those companies are going to do when everyone uses ad blockers.
 
user406009
More and more people use ad blockers every day, and it's not a trend which will die easily.
 
user406009
Like, how will SO survive?
 
user406009
2:21 AM
How will Facebook and Twitter survive?
 
@LucDanton It's not quite that easy, at least in the short term. In particular, a tiny, just-planted tree doesn't (immediately) consume nearly as CO2 as a full-grown tree that you would cut down in the same spot. There's also a problem that in come cases re-planting the same tree in the same place may not survive/grow well because of climate change that's already happened.
@Lalaland SO claims they're not worried about it, and only minimally affected. blog.stackoverflow.com/2016/02/…
Facebook and Twitter--well, I'm all in favor of just about anything that would kill them off...
 
user406009
Twitter can die in a fire. Facebook does provide some real value as a chat application and as a club/group coordination tool.
 
@JerryCoffin if a full grown tree consumes more CO2 as you put it, where does that carbon end up?
 
user406009
@JerryCoffin I think that article is incorrect in a couple ways. It seems like one of their main argument for why ad blocking won't be a problem is that SO's ads are good. And that is true to a certain extent, the ads here are not so bad. The issue is that I am too lazy to disable my ad blocker for any given site.
 
wood
 
user406009
2:26 AM
I block ads on SO out of laziness, not because they annoy me.
 
I only remembered to disable here a month or so ago
 
user406009
@LucDanton It takes time for a tree to get large enough to grow quickly.
 
I wonder how fast the really vicious kinds of bamboo sequester carbon
and I wonder if the benefit is enough to offset unleashing yet another awful invasive species on this place
 
user406009
Maybe if we can just get HN to give some seed capital to the trees to help accelerate that growth through growth hacks.
 
aren't phone numbers just really a thing of the past, everything is ip now?
 
2:28 AM
actually, how fast does the kudzu sequester carbon
I suppose the tamarisk too
 
user406009
@GettingNifty Nah, I still call people.
 
user406009
Also, ips are ephemeral and mostly useless.
 
user406009
email > phone number though for a lot of cases.
 
i don't ever pay my phone bill
i just call over wifi, which my apartment supplies
and work
 
@Lalaland SO chats have no ads
 
user406009
2:31 AM
Eh. The problem with stuff like skype and calling over wifi is availability.
 
SO main does have ads however
 
my adblock keeps on telling me there is 0 ads on SE chat pages :p
 
i used to but then when romance died globally i figured there was no reason to have a phone at night time
 
user406009
It's easy for you to call other people, but it's a pain for others to call you.
 
@Lalaland oo that’s interesting
 
2:32 AM
I never really used up all the call time on my mobile
home phone has unlimited call time to China, U.S., Singapore and a few other countries
unlimited national calls
and I hardly call anyone other than for work while building the granny flat
I did run out of bandwidth on my mobile often though - monthly plan only included 1GB
 
user406009
@Telkitty Yeah. It's really easy to do that.
 
user406009
I have a simple rule for myself. No streaming music video on the phone.
 
@LucDanton have you heard of Sigmund the sigmoid function
 
@VeronikaPrüssels yes, but I wouldn’t have known (until tonight) whether it would better model e.g. growth or growth rate
 
e/2=mc
 
2:43 AM
well the second is the derivative of the first and as we all know, what is the derivative of the sigmoid?
 
@Lalaland I use a lot of traffic for surfing the net
iphone uses more bandwidth than my android phone when doing the same stuff for some reasons
 
@VeronikaPrüssels oo also interesting
 
user406009
@Telkitty Eh, you can try disabling images in your browser. That's another trick for saving bandwidth.
 
@LucDanton magic.gif
 
> of sigmoid shape
or sigmoidoid for short
 
2:48 AM
meta levels increasing
 
user406009
@VeronikaPrüssels braces for SJW shitposts
 
oh darn I was gonna make fun of meta
 
> Wolfram|Alpha doesn't understand your query
disappointment
lol the chained derivatives go crazy
 
Hi, I need help designing a simple database....
can anyone help/
 
why are there octopuses in my xkcd garden
 
user406009
2:57 AM
@DonCode You can ask questions here. And some people may or may not answer.
 
more importantly, why were three of them in the same corner
 
Very simple...

How do I create the tables for a User, with multiple accounts, and multiple transactions on those accounts
not sure how to organize the tables.
should the user be created first, and then add all the databases to it?
or should the accounts with the transactions be added first, and then add them to a user?
 
user406009
I don't think that question is clear enough to be answered.
 
user406009
Seems like you need a user table and then other tables can reference the user table via a foreign key.
 
user406009
You might want to look into some SQL tutorials.
 
user406009
3:01 AM
(I originally thought you were going to ask about designing a database from scratch, which would have been a little more interesting IMHO)
 
@don code
@DonCode
 
I'm using grails
 
that's what i'm working on
not grails
wait i'm a java programmer but here
 
@LucDanton A lot of the carbon ends up as wood in the tree. But a tiny tree with a few leaves can only absorb a little carbon dioxide. A larger tree with a hundred times as many leaves can absorb a lot more carbon dioxide.
 
3:08 AM
@jaggedSpire Bamboo can sequester a lot of carbon pretty quickly, though many species are just too small to sequester a lot of it.
 
@JerryCoffin thanks!
 
but then once it executes i have to change it to INSERT INTO db_name, etc.
 
user406009
@sehe A transcript is possible. The rest, not so much.
 
user406009
From hard experience I have learned that trying to nail additional features on Discord via extensions is like trying to swat a mosquito. You never win and just end up slapping yourself.
 
3:13 AM
@JerryCoffin 'full-grown' may have been the wrong epithet :)
 
user406009
@GettingNifty Going for the big dreams first? Best of luck!
 
user406009
Let us know if you run into OpenGL issues.
 
user406009
Some parts of the OpenGL spec appear to be written by someone who was simultaneously high and on crack at the same time.
 
sounds like php
Well as soon as i get my database to accept user login i can start working on it
it's probably very hardware dependant
i'll have to learn a lot of lower level stuff like C to keep it from crashing and stuff
 
user406009
@GettingNifty Why would you think that?
 
3:17 AM
i would assume the memory addresses would need to be properly designed according to your video card etc.
certain games don't support certain video cards
 
user406009
@GettingNifty Uh. No. The whole point of the OpenGL is avoid that shit.
 
user406009
Sure, some OpenGL features may or may not be supported and that's especially the case if you rely on extensions.
 
user406009
But that's just a question of simply checking if the features are there or not.
 
Well I don't see how an OpenGL programmer that once built Resident Evils framework is running into problems installing the sound driver for Windows Vista.. what do you mean
 
user406009
I mean that you shouldn't need to do anything in C while working with OpenGL if the Java binding library you are using is done properly.
 
3:24 AM
I just have doubt that Java could automatically configure itself to garbage collect something that big on everyones home laptop... there are memory pointers or something in Java but they can be reused and i don't think you can map chips
 
> Being a “dumb” girl in Computer Science
oh boy let's click
meh it's actually decent
2/10
 
or it's just a matter of buffers?
i can fix some of the syntax when i look at my backup
it was a working connectiong
 
user406009
@GettingNifty Um. You simply call the appropriate allocation and deallocation functions whenever you need to. Like glGenBuffers and glDeleteBuffers.
 
user406009
And you actually can deal with raw memory in Java with the ByteBuffer class.
 
user406009
3:40 AM
(Well, to a certain degree)
 
@VeronikaPrüssels marry me tonight
let's elope
 
lmao that avatar
 
thanks
JUST for you
now let me spread some nutella on some body parts of yours that you won't forget ;)
let's not forget tonight bb ~~~
 
> Consider the following java code
nope
stopped there
 
3:51 AM
you can’t tell us what to do
 
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Q: Connecting two models in opengl

jbillsI have two models, each stored in a separate VBO. What I want do is to link them so that rotating one rotates the other, while still leaving the other connected to the first model. What I do now is have three model matrices: one main one for the entire object, and one for each of the models so th...

 
@LucDanton Yeah--trees continue growing until they die, and most die when they basically get too big to support themselves. Most of the oldest trees live in dry areas at high altitude, which limits them to growing extremely slowly. When I was living in Colorado, I did some hiking to find at least a few of the older ones--found one that's gnarled and half-dead looking--but it's been there for over 1500 years, and it's still alive and growing (ever so slowly).
 
who is nutella
 
There are older ones there, but they're pretty hard to find. When I get a chance, I'd like to got up to white mountains here in California, where the oldest trees live (some up around 5000 years old).
@Rapptz You are.
 
4:09 AM
they’ll tell you to get off their soil
 
@LucDanton Probably. At my age, it's nice to go places that make you feel (comparatively) young again though. :-)
 
4:28 AM
Same
@Rapptz isn't it obvious
 
no
 
> The plant is estimated to weigh collectively 6,000,000 kg (6,600 short tons)
fuck off with your retarded unit system
 
what the hell is a short ton
 
a ton is 2k pounds
 
yes but wtf is a short ton
> In the United States, a short ton is usually known simply as a "ton",[1] without distinguishing it from the tonne (1,000 kilograms or 2,204.62262 pounds), known there as the "metric ton", or the long ton (2,240 pounds or 1,016.0469088 kilograms), known there as the "Imperial ton". There are, however, some US applications where unspecified tons normally means long tons (for example, Navy ships)[2] or metric tons (world grain production figures).
 
4:49 AM
@VeronikaPrüssels no one knows our secret language bby
we can rule the WORLD together just me and you what do you say us vs. the world
i don't care what avatar you use or what profile & username, i can always FEEL your vibe
i KNOW when it's you, i feel your heartbeat pulsating all the way from HK mmm
 
oh you
 
jealousSpire
jealous of our unrelenting LOVE
 
lol
have a good night
I'm headed to bed
the power of your love is overwhelming
 
<3
good night love
 
> I know this isn't much of a question, but I did search with Google a lot, and I couldn't find anything even remotely similar to a solution.
<trivial question follows>
 
5:00 AM
"I’m not a racist either, but…"
@VeronikaPrüssels btw as it turns out many features of the HoT maps first appeared in SAB
 
What the fuck
@LucDanton Soon we will all learn that GW2 really was an accident that developed around SAB
 
literally pay2win
too bad they didn’t release World 3 this year, that way we could have known ahead of time what we will face in the next expansion
well, they haven’t reused ice level mechanics yet I guess
 
@VeronikaPrüssels Wow. Rough.
 
5:29 AM
Got a new phone.
No fucking idea what it is. <_>
 
 
1 hour later…
Xeo
6:30 AM
mornin
 
-5
Q: C++ pointers and references?

PanthyWell people are downvoting this so just close this damn thing, i guess i'm not even allowed to ask a genuine question on this forum anymore. I'll figure it out with my professor tomorrow instead of trying to get help from the useful people here. Thanks to the people who tried to help me out. To t...

lol
 
lol
lemme turn the knife in the wound with a helpful and constructive rollback
Well people are downvoting this so just close this damn thing, i guess i'm not even allowed to ask a genuine question on this forum anymore. I'll figure it out with my professor tomorrow instead of trying to get help from the useful people here. Thanks to the people who tried to help me out. To the people who downvoted, go **** yourself for discouraging someone who just wants to learn. bye. — Panthy 13 mins ago
 
Xeo
> this forum
well, there's one mistake
 
the word existed before stackoverflow you know
 
is this why you call a rocket a submarine
 
6:39 AM
bullies
glad I learned programming too early to have a bunch of jerks ruin all the fun for me
 
Xeo
@doug65536 yes, so?
 
> learned programming
> 2k rep
excuse me while I laugh
 
lol
because I am not a sucker that works for free on some ad site tyvm
 
> Started programming at the age of 12. Been programming ever since!
For a whole 6 months!
 
thanks for verifying my accusations
bully
 
6:42 AM
first it's madam bully
 
lmao I couldnt care less what you guys think
 
Xeo
bully! :'(
 
your sexism will not get to me
 
you are 10000x better than me!!! lol, who cares
 
not 10000x but significantly better yes
I mean just looking at your Q/A score it's kind of painful obvious indeed
anyway scrub, no rage please
work hard and you'll be like us one day
 
6:44 AM
wash your hair next time you get your picture taken
 
lots of love, vero.
 
How does a 12 to learn to program ... They can't become a help vampire until they turn 13
@doug65536 it's a troll, don't feed
Err ... Auto correct ...
 
when doing upper bound on a B+ tree node (not leaf), at the end of the binary search you have to go back one entry and descend into that child, right?
 
AMD did consider renaming or aliasing the low 8 registers to r0-r7, or using UAX instead of r8, etc.. "Figuring out how to best name the registers was actually one of the hardest parts of doing the register extension." (See stackoverflow.com/a/35619528/224132 for some other neat x86-64 history.) Also, the order isn't RAX/RBX/... in the binary encoding, it's AX, CX, DX, BXPeter Cordes Mar 10 at 21:57
Some HW porn for you guys /cc @JerryCoffin
 
because the last equal entry would be the one whose child has the upper bound
 
6:59 AM
@Lalaland What a gem. Mind if I repurpose (aka "steal")?
@Telkitty If they fall for that, they obviously lack the brain to become a programmer
 

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