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9:00 PM
@Lalaland I'm not joking, he must do it to break the spiral. Also sure Cat will be great at it.
 
@Lalaland They mostly are
 
I've been laughing at this one for 20 years
 
@Borgleader What's PFNBLENDCOLORPROC ?
 
@ThePhD This is pretty much how I generate mine:
 
... Wait, I can probably make it myself.
 
9:01 PM
lua LoadGen.lua core_4_3 -style=noload_cpp -spec=gl -version=4.4 -profile=core -stdext=gl_ubiquitous.txt -stdext=gl_core_post_3_3.txt
 
@CatPlusPlus No, you will have been whining in this chat for 20 years in ten years.
Create account, send one mail per day, not hard.
plenty of time for whining in chat
@sehe play Mendelssohn :)
 
@JohanLarsson fuck that, Chopin!
 
Get real guys, Prokofiev.
 
@Morwenn hipster
 
9:09 PM
@JohanLarsson no one is getting married...
 
@orlp Nah, hipsters listen to Satie and Debussy because they're almost the only composers associated to impressionism.
 
Why does the mingw-w64-i686-gdb package require 150MB of dependencies?
wtf
 
why do you care
 
Oh, sehe going freestyle.
 
@Morwenn well
 
9:11 PM
most probably they're Python pretty-printers
so it installs Python and stuff
 
@orlp Hey, at least it's not the gymnopédies :p
 
@milleniumbug Yep
and gettext and ncurses
and why the fuck does this require openssl
 
gettext and ncurses, sure.
Why openssl though
 
@Morwenn hahaha
 
So, functional programming has flatten for turning a range of subranges into a single contiguous range.
 
9:13 PM
looked up a gymnopedie on youtube
 
top comment
"You have to make the right choice. As long as you don't choose, everything remains possible."
 
What do you call an unflatten which turns a contiguous range into a range of subranges?
 
@caps yeah, or a flatMap
 
hipster status: maximum
 
9:13 PM
@milleniumbug Right.
 
Esp. when you are then passing the subranges directly into a constructor or some other functions?
 
@набиячлевэлиь well, I can explain all of them except openssl. Maybe that's an indirect dependency
 
@orlp Frankly, the name of Satie's pieces remind me of Igorrr from time to time.
 
Is it just that, unflatten? I came up with fold_subranges since I'm actually passing each subrange into a constructor which turns it into something else, then pushes that something else to an output.
But I was curious if there is a more "canonical" name for that kind of operation.
 
9:15 PM
@caps dunno, what arguments does it take and what's the return type
if you know, then Hoogle can do nice guesses (for Haskell)
 
user406009
@caps Group by.
 
nestify :P
 
user406009
Group by is the opposite of flatten.
 
@milleniumbug template<typename BegItr, typename EndItr, typename DestItr, typename MakeRange> void fold_subranges(BegItr b, EndItr e, DestItr d, MakeRange ranger) and an overload template<typename BegItr, typename EndItr, typename DestItr, typename BinaryFunc1, typename BinaryFunc2> void fold_subranges(BegItr b, EndItr e, DestItr d, BinaryFunc1 ranger, BinaryFunc2 trans)
 
9:18 PM
@caps what arguments can MakeRange take?
 
@milleniumbug It takes a begin and end iterator.
 
@orlp Honestly, I always found Chopin boring.
 
@Morwenn heathen :(
 
@Morwenn it's not actually bad music. I'm ... surprised :)
@JohanLarsson okay. Coming up (looking for the book now)
 
Annnnd
VS crashed
 
9:19 PM
@sehe What is?
 
@sehe was a joke
 
@caps and returns a container?
 
Great.
 
@orlp It's well-written, but it never moves me or anything.
 
@milleniumbug No, a std::pair of iterators.
 
9:20 PM
@Morwenn that piece
 
Here is the implementation for the one that also does a transform
 
@JohanLarsson too late now :)
 
How do I disable localization of msys2
 
The Final Fantasy?
 
@ThePhD what did you do :p
 
9:20 PM
template<typename BegItr, typename EndItr, typename DestItr, typename BinaryFunc1, typename BinaryFunc2>
auto fold_subranges(BegItr b, EndItr e, DestItr d, BinaryFunc1 ranger, BinaryFunc2 trans)
{
    //b = te advances to the beginning of the next subrange, since the begin and end of the subranges all overlap
    for (auto te{e}; b < e; b = te)
    {
        std::tie(b, te) = ranger(b, e);
        *(++d) = trans(b, te);
    }
}
 
@melak47 Debugged the blend_state I'm building up.
 
@набиячлевэлиь probably the same way you disable localization in an unix-like environment
 
Also, I have a question.
 
The input range is something like {b, 1, 2, 3, b, 4, 5, 6, b, 7, 8, 9 ... e}
 
@sehe Let's be honest. You're an order of magnitude better than I am when it comes to playing the piano.
 
9:21 PM
I have a class which I currently allocate as a class as a pointer to "delay" its instantiate until after a (long) constructor runs. Is there a way to have a value type that you initialize "later" ?
 
@milleniumbug Which is?
 
@Morwenn he's also an order of a magnitude older
@sehe :D
 
Is it possible to create custom C streams (i.e. <cstdio>, not <iostreams>)? I have a C library here that writes to a FILE *, but I need the output to go to a buffer in memory instead of a file on disk.
 
@набиячлевэлиь locale or setlocale or whatever
 
And the desired output is either {{1, 2, 3}, {4, 5, 6}, {7, 8, 9} ... } or {made_from_123, made_from_456, made_from_789, ...} depending on which overload you use.
 
9:22 PM
yep, found it
 
@orlp Some Asian people an order of magnitude younger than me are also one order of magnitude better :p
 
@ThePhD optional<T>
 
@ThePhD boost::optional can be used for deferred instantiation
oop
 
@Puppy Mmm... I figured as much. Guess I'm stuck doing that then.
 
@JasonRice std::experimental::optional master race.
 
9:23 PM
@Morwenn yes, but they have the Asian trait, which in the 'life' MMORPG is like a cheatcode
 
@Szabolcs not portably
 
@orlp No, only in the 'skill' MMORPG.
 
@Lalaland So you'd call this group_by?
 
@puppy how is it different?
 
how is what different?
 
9:24 PM
@Puppy It.
 
boost and std::exp optional
never looked at it
 
I never said anything about std::exp.
 
@milleniumbug So what do you think?
 
sigh std::experimental::optional
 
9:24 PM
I never mentioned that either.
 
@caps still thinking
 
oops
@nooble ^
@Nooble
 
@JasonRice It's the same except it's in std.
 
in fact
there's a reason why I didn't specify any particular flavour of optional and it's because it really doesn't fucking matter.
 
ah i thought there was a reason they delayed putting it in the standard
 
9:26 PM
there was but it's fucking stupid.
 
@JasonRice Because they didn't agree on stuff.
 
I broke my glasses yesterday.
 
Which is basically why everything is always delayed.
 
Had to fix it with pliers.
 
@Nooble How so?
 
9:27 PM
@набиячлевэлиь Stepped on them.
Bent it.
Had to use superglue, too.
 
@Nooble Why were they on the floor in the first place?
 
@набиячлевэлиь You sound like my dad.
 
@Nooble Maybe I am your dad
 
@набиячлевэлиь Ok.
 
check check
 
9:38 PM
@JasonRice fail fail
 
@orlp Here's what I think of Chopin:
 
@caps sorry, can't help there, typing in the signature to Hoogle doesn't help much (I think the closest is groupWith, but I'm not sure thanks to incomprehensibility of Haskell docs)
> The groupWith function uses the user supplied function which projects an element out of every list element in order to first sort the input list and then to form groups by equality on these projected elements
yup, that's incomprehensible
where the fuck are usage examples, I demand them
 
Clang errors are wonderful.
 
@Morwenn HEATHEN
 
@orlp You only say that because you have no taste :D
 
9:43 PM
either way, you can name your function something_group_whatever and it won't be wrong
 
@Morwenn says the person who doesn't like chopin
 
@milleniumbug Well, thanks anyway.
 
@orlp Hey, liking Chopin is too mainstream. He's like the 19th century David Guetta.
 
@набиячлевэлиь CLANG IS GREAT.
 
Nah, to be honest, Chopin is good at composing. The harmonies are always subtle and the rythms are interesting (the right hand is generally more interesting than the left one though). I just don't like it.
 
@orlp Hehe, I already know that one :p
 
probably one of the best game music compositions I've heard in a long while
probably since red alert 2
 
@Nooble IT IS
FOR I HAVE JOINED THE GLORIOUS clang MASTERRACE
 
@orlp VVVVVV wasn't bad either.
 
9:50 PM
BOW BEFORE US, THE BENEVOLENT RULERS OF THIS LAND
@Morwenn VVVVVV was cool
 
red alert 2 music was metal as fuck
 
VVVVVV!
meh red alert 2 music
 
Do I pronounce that as wwwwwwwwwwwwwww or wiwiwiwiwiwiwiwiwiwiwi
 
I prefer Tiberian Sun's climatic-apocalyptic-industrial themes
 
Binding of Isaac has a reat OST too.
@набиячлевэлиь You don't pronounce it.
 
9:52 PM
@набиячлевэлиь Vee.
Vvvvvvvvvveeeee.
 
Will Afterbirth include new tracks?
 
The way V was supposed to be pronounced.
USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!
 
@набиячлевэлиь say "six vi" or "sześć fał"
 
@Nooble More like vi amirite
 
@набиячлевэлиь nano
 
user1804599
9:55 PM
 
@набиячлевэлиь emacs
 
@elyse Only 100 characters for name?
@milleniumbug shoots with shotgun
 
user1804599
yes i haven't implemented ANY LENGTH yet
 
@набиячлевэлиь won't help, my emacs has a shield plugin
 
9:56 PM
verbose-lang.org
 
I predict that in 50 years you will require a computer cluster in various locations in the world to run emacs. The reason is that it's become so bloated that running it all on one computer will form a black hole solely from the amount of entropy required to keep the executable in memory.
 
@milleniumbug readies Panzerfaust
 
@набиячлевэлиь well, it's emacs. It probably has a defence for that too :D
 
@milleniumbug What's more powerful than a Panzerfaust D:
I need to destroy it
 
10:02 PM
I want an Oculus Rift.
Need to save up.
 
@Nooble No, you don't
 
@набиячлевэлиь Yeah I do.
If it's under $250.
 
@Nooble Njegatif
I should stop making jokes nobody's gonna get :v
 
@ThePhD Gbuffer functional. Not pretty, but its working.
 
I need to get sublime to work with CMake.
@Borgleader g buffer?
 
10:07 PM
@Nooble What mean you?
@Nooble GitgudBuffer
 
@набиячлевэлиь what he meant
 
What does "sublime to work with cmake" mean?
 
first you need to run sublime to understand that
he meant pressing F9 to run CMake
 
In the field of 3D computer graphics, deferred shading is a screen-space shading technique. It is called deferred because no shading is actually performed in the first pass of the vertex and pixel shaders: instead shading is "deferred" until a second pass. On the first pass of a deferred shader, only data that is required for shading computation is gathered. Positions, normals, and materials for each surface are rendered into the geometry buffer (G-buffer) as a series of textures. After this, a pixel shader computes the direct and indirect lighting at each pixel using the information of the texture...
 
@milleniumbug You mean Ctrl+B?
Dead-trivial
 
10:09 PM
yeah whatever the shortcut's in there for building
I never used it anyway
 
@набиячлевэлиь Nothing Everything is trivial with CMake, it's so nice in this wonderful world of CMake!
@Borgleader Oh that.
 
@Nooble wrong again
 
I should use that instead of shadow mapping.
 
@Nooble Shooting yourself in the foot is
 
@Nooble uhh... those are not mutually exclusive AFAIK /cc @ElimGarak
 
10:11 PM
@Nooble Running well-written scripts is trivial. Too bad writing scripts isn't.
 
@Nooble I think that's entirely orthogonal
 
I thought they were two different techniques.
 
@Nooble cmake -G"Ninja" && ninja
 
@Nooble nope
 
10:12 PM
and maybe also specify paths for like 7 tools
There's even a CMake linter
 
hmm it's cmake -G"Ninja"; and ninja-build on my machine
 
@Borgleader But deferred shading is a screen-space technique.
 
Deferred shading just means, instead of doing the heavy computation (generally the pixel shader) every time you draw an object, you dump whatever information you'll need to do the shading and then once youve drawn all your objects you shade the entire buffer
 
@milleniumbug Bieduntu/any-offspawn-of-Biedan?
 
10:14 PM
@набиячлевэлиь nope Fedora
 
@Nooble deferred shading is not a shadowing technique. see my explanation above
 
also I'm not using bash
 
@Borgleader Oh ok.
I'll read up on it.
 
@milleniumbug dash? :P
 
@набиячлевэлиь fish
@Nooble also this looks helpful
> Sublime Text 2 - Ninja = Generates Sublime Text 2 project files.
I wonder if ST2 projects are compatible with ST3 projects
 
10:19 PM
I wonder what stupid things std::source_location will allow us to write.
 
@sehe beautiful!
 
@Morwenn it's awesome
 
@orlp order of magnitude fatter too, probably
 
I want it now
 
@JohanLarsson thank you thank you
I'ts past midnight now. Should have stopped a li'll earlier perhaps
 
10:19 PM
@milleniumbug I don't discuss its awesomeness, I only want to know how it will be abused.
 
@milleniumbug They are just JSON
 
well, I can say this too: in every possible way
 
@sehe I forgot it was you playing. Could have been a best of classic yt playlist :)
 
@набиячлевэлиь which doesn't answer the question if they're compatible or not
 
10:21 PM
@milleniumbug That's what I want to think. There are probably 36 different ways to abuse it. The future will tell us.
 
@milleniumbug Well, there's not much to be incompatible there, see link
 
if they changed the attribute names in the meantime, they'll break
 
@JohanLarsson it was a bit sloppy because I don't always play those. I tend to play through and then once more "for realz"
But I didn't do retakes (unless I fuckedup in the first measures)
 
sloppy meaning perfect yes
 
std::invocation_type seems interesting too.
 
10:24 PM
> Moreover, CSIS now can break the law and violate Charter rights when implementing these measures, so long as they obtain a warrant from a Federal Court judge in a secret, one-sided proceeding that authorizes such measures as reasonable and proportionate.
I like my government.
 
@JohanLarsson I'm trying to find the recorded vid just to assess how conspicuous my sloppiness is - also because it's a nice exercise to listen to yourself play once in a while
(I found that out only recently when I posted a bunch of old recordings I found)
@Morwenn I bet you play the recorder a lot better. And the rest you didn't mention or I forget you played
 
@sehe I only play the recorder rather well, but it doesn't have a beautiful sound when played alone.
 
Some would disagree. But I guess it's about having fun playing.
 
@sehe Most would agree :p
 
Depends who's playing, really
 
10:27 PM
what is a recorder?
 
Seriously, most things are boring when there is only one note at a time.
 
"recorder" being a name for the instrument is retarded
 
@milleniumbug Generating autocompletion from manpages looks nice
 
@milleniumbug I bet the name predates any recording tool.
 
^
 
10:27 PM
@Morwenn afair, yes, it does
 
@milleniumbug so, things unknown to you are retarded - lol
 
still think it's retarded
 
Alright now, fish is the greatest shell of all time
 
Many words have acquired new meanings. The old meanings didn't become retarded
 
blockflöjt
 
10:28 PM
blokfluit
 
@JohanLarsson Yeah, that. Or flûte à bec in French.
 
french wins
 
french wines
 
Only rosé.
 
10:29 PM
Why is it said for wine to be dry
 
It's "flet" in Polish, just like the name of a special operator in several lisps
@набиячлевэлиь it makes you want to drink some water
 
skinnflöjt
 
You can simulate similar experience - try drinking several tea cups.
 
Drink more tea
Also lol drinking tea in "cups"
 
Mugs all the way.
 
10:31 PM
what would you drink it from, an anus?
 
@набиячлевэлиь sure I drink my tea from stein
 
@набиячлевэлиь It's garbage that's barely compatible with itself
 
it's a nice experience after bash
 
@Puppy sounds like a very c++ way
 
@набиячлевэлиь How else would you drink it?
In ML?
Those aren't even freedom units.
Use fluid ounces instead.
 
10:33 PM
lol american nonunits
 
@набиячлевэлиь You mean freedom units?
 
@Nooble They aren't even units
 
@набиячлевэлиь They're not units, they're freedom units.
 
@Nooble I'm not interested in how long the last segment of a long-dead king was, thx
 
@набиячлевэлиь That's right, freedom units have history.
 
10:38 PM
@Nooble Actual units have meaning
 
@Nooble « Free » as in « free jazz » aka random.
 
@JohanLarsson Yep. C++ gives you a lot of power but you can easily end up shooting your feet drinking from your anus.
7
 
@набиячлевэлиь Freedom units have history.
 
Still waiting for Boost.FreedomUnits.
 
@Nooble Actual units have meaning
 
10:39 PM
@AndyProwl I starred first!
 
lol
 
Which american nonunits simply lack
 
@набиячлевэлиь When they should instead have history.
And freedom.
 
@JohanLarsson Andy doesn't care, he is a star.
 
Don't forget the freedom and eagles.
And thrown in a couple of cheeseburgers.
 
@набиячлевэлиь Freedom
Freedom is measured in cups per yard.
 
@Morwenn :)
 
@Nooble It works well with this music.
 
arg. I messed up. My home disk was full. So full that I couldn't delete anything :) Yay for log structured FS
 
10:45 PM
@sehe Someone needs more SSDs.
 
Seriously, Saint-Erwan is a great beer.
 
Now go download some more storage.
 
@Nooble ironically, I have them - but intend to use them for new system install. o.O
I have 1Tb of SSD sitting there.
And yes. I ran out of disk on my 60Gb ZFS pool :) because the old SSD was only 128gib
 
1GB? :S
 
@Nooble Download more RAM -> ramdisks
 
10:47 PM
I put together the upgraded rig but then I got icecream in the keyboard. Have not used it since.
 
:S
 
Soon I will run out.
 
you need more drives
 
Then I shall update out of Windows 10162.
 
you look fine to me
also use union mounts
oh wait it's windows
 
10:48 PM
There, my snapshot has been replicated. Now I can start destroying old stuff
BAM. 2,1Gib free
 
@milleniumbug I'm surprised I haven't used more than 100GB since I bought it.
 
zfs destroy -R  Home@20150901
 
Need more games.
@sehe Ripperino in pepperino.
 
It's on my fileserver still
No worries
rm -rf boost_1_5[678]_0 boost_1_5[678]_0.tar.bz2
I use modular boost for bisecting anyways these days
 
How big were these boosts?
 
10:52 PM
dunno. will check later (not so spectacular as on windows, anyways)
Also, I don't like big boosts. It's about how they feel :)
 
I think you're wrong.
whistles
 
:)
Good evening
 
I used to think that as well.
 
Certainly for the eye, I prefer firmer, smaller boobs. But I'll trust you on the feels
 
What are you high on
 
10:59 PM
Firmer & smaller is the best.
 

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