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4:00 PM
yeah
 
user1804599
@melak47 disable debugging symbols
 
I'll just give up instead
 
user1804599
doing so will also speed up linking by an apparently infinite factor
 
Giving up? Yeah, probably.
 
user1804599
not sure if I should use Jison for parsing COBOL
 
user1804599
4:12 PM
the grammar is, well, eh, shitty
 
> Compared to previous manufacturing techniques, the FinFET 16-nm process uses a fin structure that allows for more conducting channels — this apparently will allow the component to house up to 17 billion transistors while maintaining a smaller physical size.
(by comparison the GTX 980 Ti and the Titan X both currently have ~ 8 billion transistors, source) /cc @ElimGarak
 
@sehe That’s a weird way of phrasing 'pull requests welcome'.
 
@Borgleader yeah it's p scary
 
I think you mean awesome :)
New architecture + 2x transistor count
 
however pascal has been delayed now
IIRC the speed improvement ratio is something like 5x or 10x
 
4:29 PM
which is insane
I cant wait to just try and push one of those to its limits and see just how much stuff it can do
 
I want SPIR-V
 
4:44 PM
scons is so cool
 
user1804599
4:57 PM
let sectionName = null;
(p => isFirstSection ? option(lexer, p) : p(lexer))(lexer => {
    sectionName = expect(lexer, lex.Token.IDENTIFIER);
    expect(lexer, lex.Token.SECTION_KEYWORD);
    expect(lexer, lex.Token.PERIOD);
});
 
user1804599
I love lambdas.
 
You using "pure" ES6?
 
user1804599
What is "pure" ES6?
 
user1804599
If it is TypeScript, then yes, I do. Otherwise, no, I don't.
 
Nothing, found in the transcript
 
5:02 PM
@LucDanton I'm not sure they are. It's not what I had in mind
 
I'm falling asleep of boredom. And it's only 7 p.m. /o/
 
user1804599
yay my COBOL compiler can compile this program:
 
user1804599
      *Program that upon execution greets the world.

       IDENTIFICATION DIVISION.
       PROGRAM-ID. helloWorld.

       PROCEDURE DIVISION.
           DISPLAY "Hel" "lo, " WITH NO ADVANCING
           DISPLAY "wor" "ld!"
           GOBACK
           .
 
> IndentationError: unexpected indent
wtf Python
 
@elyse You're awesome, I love you :3
 
user1804599
5:11 PM
@набиячлевэлиь did you mix up tabs and spaces? did you forget pass?
 
@elyse That's gr8, m8
 
@набиячлевэлиь It means you've been a bad boy.
 
Hi.
 
@elyse I didn't remove the indent after commenting out an if statement
 
user1804599
fail
 
user1804599
5:12 PM
also Python sucks because of this shit
 
user1804599
you need to use True and instead.
 
@набиячлевэлиь Python.
 
@Morwenn It means that ws-dependent languages suck
@Nooble m8, scons is awesome
 
@набиячлевэлиь I love this aspect of Python.
 
user1804599
or rather, True or.
 
5:16 PM
@sehe bitrot?
 
@melak47 Bitwise ROT
 
user1804599
also fun, I have no problems with indenting the entire program ...
 
user1804599
... except it's with 7 spaces
 
@Morwenn :p
 
5:22 PM
@ElimGarak God damn it why are you so good at this.
How fast does this run? And on what hardware do you run it?
 
@Nooble Quadruple Titan to get unstable 25FPS
 
@набиячлевэлиь Haha.
I need a new PC.
Someone donate.
 
I can give you my spare parts
100GB HDD
 
Do you seriously have a 100GB HDD?
I'd donate you a 320GB 5400RPM HDD that I don't use.
Now if only shipping to Poland didn't cost an ARM and an x86_64.
@набиячлевэлиь Get Windows 10 and become a part of the 64-bit master race.
 
@Nooble Not in my PC, that would be ridiculous
 
5:35 PM
hi
 
Hi ^_^
 
user1804599
so awesome I love this
 
oh jalf is online!
 
@TonyTheLion Hi.
 
hi @jalf! Long time no see?
@Nooble sup?
 
5:37 PM
@TonyTheLion Fixing Icicle.
 
ah cool. Hows that working out so far?
 
Oh just setting up CMake and such.
 
ah yes, CMake.
one of the most joyous programming tools to use :P
 
:P
Trying to get clang to work too.
 
on linux or windows?
 
5:42 PM
you were using GCC before, right?
 
MinGW yes.
@melak47 Windows.
 
Clang on windows is a pain, from what I've heard
 
msys2 has a clang 3.7.0 package
 
Oooh.
How do I get it?
 
install msys2, pacman -S mingw-w64-x86_64-clang
 
5:46 PM
@TonyTheLion Building it wasn't a problem, but I never managed to use the analyzer for reasons.
 
the analyzer for what?
 
clang's static analyzer tool
 
ah that thing
 
user1804599
I want an all-terrain, nuclear-equipped, walking battle tank capable of launching a nuclear warhead from any place on the face of the Earth.
 
@melak47 wanting intensifies
 
5:52 PM
@набиячлевэлиь I'm downloading it right now.
Now if only I could get this to work natively on the console.
 
@TonyTheLion Well yeah, that thing. I was launching an analyzer-fest on some project I occasionally contribute to.
 
Dry weather in Australia may be causing snakes to slither into toilets -- like this python: http://cnn.it/1Mi9QEU http://t.co/s1V4BpKDH1
 
@TonyTheLion yeah, it's been a while. How's it going?
 
@Nooble whaddya mean?
 
@melak47 Just use clang without having to use bash first.
And then clang.
 
5:58 PM
just put it in your path, and you don't have to touch msys2/mintty to use it.
 
Whoa I'm stupid.
 
in fact, I wouldn't recommend using the msys2/mintty/bash shell
 
It's far less efficient IIRC
 
not even that. went to build something with make, ctrl+c and it only kills one of the running instances, the rest keep compiling and spitting output my way
 
The Bullshit Asymmetry Principle Brandolini’s Law: http://tmblr.co/ZTxVUt1WGwdyq via @ziobrando http://t.co/8wFboEQAZU
 
6:01 PM
and overall bad interplay with console stuff showing interactive progress. like git. no output on cloning, no idea if it's working...
 
@jalf Not too bad. How are you?
 
user1804599
nice let's see
 
@набиячлевэлиь Have you used msys2?
 
@Nooble Not much, why?
 
6:05 PM
@набиячлевэлиь Nothing, just asking.
 
@Nooble You want to kill me, don't you?
 
Yes.
 
readies The Terrible Shotgun
 
@melak47 Any day now this will finish downloading.
 
:D
if you want to use it with clion, you'll also want the mingw-w64-x86_64-gdb and -make packages
 
6:12 PM
lol CLion
 
@melak47 It doesn't have gdb by default?
Also for some reason I was using Wi-Fi.
It's still ridiculously slow.
 
the important one is make, if there's no make in the "mingw home"'s bin folder, it can't detect shit
 
So, if you're a skrub, like @Nooble is, and haven't already done so, you need to copy "mingw32-make.exe" to "make.exe"
 
not this again :p
 
I'm getting 95K/s.
Nice.
 
6:15 PM
are you in orbit?
or deep under water?
 
I think their CDNs are weird.
@набиячлевэлиь Probably the best C++ IDE.
I don't use IDEs though because I'm masochistic.
 
user1804599
C++ has no standard UI library.
COBOL has UIs as a language feature.
 
user1804599
Conclusion: COBOL > C++.
 
Conclusion: COBOL[UI] > C++[UI]
 
> >C++
> >IDE
I'm still deeply scarred from VS
 
6:22 PM
too much purple?
 
I use Code::Blocks, it's a decent code editor.
 
Just use YCM with Sublime if you want a C++ IDE
 
I might try CLion.
 
@Nooble shoots in head
And Sublime with SublimeCodeIntel for many other languages
 
@набиячлевэлиь Better than the other C++ "IDE"s out there
 
6:25 PM
why do you hate clion so much? :D
 
@melak47 Supported MinGW but not MinGW64
 
user1804599
> Parametric polymorphism, sometimes called method overlaoding, allows methods within a class to have the same method name, differing in the number and type of parameters
 
user1804599
wait what
 
user1804599
that makes no sense. that's ad-hoc polymorphism.
 
yep
 
6:26 PM
@Puppy but they fixed that
 
did they?
 
@fredoverflow He still sounds like Barry White on 2x :)
 
I have to admit that I ceased paying attention immediately afterwards.
 
user1804599
I hope they fixed this in the final standard.
 
@Puppy it works with mingw-w64 gcc and clang now.
 
user1804599
6:26 PM
this is a draft but those ISO fuckers charge $180
 
Wow.
 
@elyse What standard?
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow COBOL 2014
 
Ok, time for a shower.
 
This is taking forever.
But clang is so worth it.
 
6:29 PM
If only showers could take forever *-*
 
user1804599
I know a guy who showers for an hour each day.
 
@elyse You?
 
user1804599
No.
 
user1804599
I shower for like eight minutes.
 
I would shower forever if ecology wasn't a thing (and if hot water was free).
 
user1804599
6:33 PM
I wouldn't shower forever in either case, because: I don't give a shit about ecology, and showering for an extended period of time is incredibly boring.
 
@melak47 It's installing now :D
 
@elyse But... But when the water massages your shoulders :(
 
@Morwenn Is it only shoulders? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
user1804599
lol
 
6:36 PM
@melak47 Where did it install?
Can't invoke it.
 
msys64/mingw64/bin
 
Ah ok thanks.
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow meh
 
user1804599
oh god overloading in COBOL is so complicated
 
Doesn't flow/match as nicely as the C++ Standard one, but still nice
 
user1804599
6:41 PM
when resolving overloads, you have to take into account whether the callee uses a comma or a period as decimal point, lol
 
user1804599
> The method resolution signature consists of:
> 3) The DECIMAL-POINT IS COMMA clause
 
, as decimal separator is so bad
 
@jaggedSpire I found a dog named after you.
 
@Nooble What's its name?
 
6:44 PM
The Jagdterrier (/ˈjɑːktɛriər/ YAHK-terr-i-ər) is a type of working terrier, originating in Germany, that is used for hunting quarry both above and underground. This breed of terrier is also called the German Hunt Terrier. == Description == === Appearance === A typical appearance of a Jagdterrier is black and tan, with the tan being more of a rust colour on the muzzle and undercarriage. It can also be chocolate or liver brown with white markings although the white markings and the chocolate colouring should be avoided in breeding programs along with a brown nose. Black and tan/rust mark...
 
So it is pronounced Yahk-ed-spy-uhr.
 
topkek
@Nooble Looks like it needs to be in cyrillic
Йагэд Спыур
 
user406009
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ So, are you here and want to get started?
 
@Nooble msys2 takes as much time to download as a SXZ3 ROM
And it's like 6 times smaller
 
6:50 PM
 
woop woop
 
It only took a few weeks.
 
I'm gonna join the clang masterrace shortly
 
@набиячлевэлиь And get gdb and make as @melak47 said.
 
6:51 PM
...once msys2 downloads
 
@набиячлевэлиь Get ready to download 150MiB at 95K/s.
 
@Nooble gdb and GNU make come with mingw32, hth
 
@Nooble only need those for clion :p
 
@Nooble msys2 is downloading @ 30K/s
Can't get much worse than that
 
I removed my mingw64 folder so.
 
6:52 PM
wat
 
you kinda need that
 
You cannot do that
 
I dunno.
I mean my old one.
 
You need MinGW
 
6:52 PM
oh.
 
I have MinGW.
Also get a 64-bit OS @набиячлевэлиь.
 
@Nooble When I upgrade to Win10
 
user406009
@набиячлевэлиь You haven't experienced true slowness until you have used dialup.
 
user406009
Now get off my lawn.
 
@набиячлевэлиь Do it.
 
6:54 PM
XPx86 -> XPx86_64 is kinda pointless
 
don't let your dreams be dreams!
 
@Lalaland But there were no 50MB files back when dialup was a thing
 
user1804599
Where the fuck is cl.exe?
 
First result, maybe?
 
user1804599
no
 
user1804599
6:55 PM
that's for old VS
 
user1804599
> Visual Studio 2015 doesn't install C++ by default. You have to rerun the setup, select Modify and then check Programming Language -> C++
 
user1804599
ugh
 
start VS developer console, type where cl?
scrub didn't install the C++ compiler :v
 
user1804599
3GB -_-
 
user1804599
and probably a reboot
 
6:58 PM
Why a reboot?
Reboots after installs are so 2009
 
The 3 spaces after found. are bothering me.
Send help.
 
` stop.`
 
It's a clear separation, a change of thought
 
user1804599
now gonna make my compiler accept this program:
 

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