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4:00 PM
@AmagicalFishy nothing is farther from the truth
 
indeed.
 
I also notice you're being a dick, totally unnecessarily.
 
And now, nobody will answer again
hth
 
"I observed that nobody gives a shit; therefore, let me simply re-ask the same question, because being slapped in the face with it repeatedly even when they obviously don't care MUST improve their disposition towards me!"
 
@MarcoA. I don't
 
4:01 PM
Holy shit, I hope you two aren't representative of... well, anything.
 
Go to snack overflow or whatever
 
all I'm saying is, you're literally on a site whose sole purpose is to answer programming questions.
 
Also I hate business requirements of eeeeeeverything
 
but instead of using that explicit feature, you're in here spamming when we clearly don't care
it's pretty stupid.
just go click the "ASK QUESTION" button like everybody else with a brain cell
 
I'm in here because I'm in a site whose sole purpose is to answer programming questions
 
4:03 PM
Nope wrong site
This is chat
 
yep, and there's a giant "ASK QUESTION" button.
use it.
this is chat, Q&A is the other part.
 
user1804599
Asking here is just fine.
 
as is evidenced by the URL, the link you use to get here, the behaviour of the other people, and the entire design of both.
 
user1804599
The chat has been ccreated to get instant and fast help, after all.
 
4:04 PM
laff
 
@AmagicalFishy read the rules please
first line:
"Can I ask programming-related questions in the chat?"
It might interest you
 
Oh, I'm reading the FAQ
which states: " This site is an extension of Stack Overflow, so discussion should more or less revolve around the same topics you'd find at Stack Overflow — but in an interactive, less strictly Q&A focused way. Do have fun, but please keep it professional and always be respectful of your fellow community members."
 
I'm bored
You're boring
 
Since I don't have a specific problem with a specific answer—I'm asking for suggestions on where to start if I want to move towards this (admittedly vague) goal.
 
idk what you're trying to achieve here
 
user1804599
4:06 PM
how about we plonk them
 
@EtiennedeMartel halp
 
@AmagicalFishy i.e., don't spam your question when we're clearly completely uninterested
 
Shhh, Puppy.
 
@AmagicalFishy Frankly, whoever's right doesn't really matter. The point is that you're only wasting your time.
 
@Morwenn Yeah, that's unfortunately true. =\
 
4:08 PM
You might be used to IRC product channels where developers or mods try to help users. This chat isn't like one of those and isn't a chatted stackoverflow
People here are usually competent in C++, but God knows why they write PHP code, work on Javascript stuff and argue about Haskell all the time.
 
@AmagicalFishy Your question is too vague. Button? Signal intensity? How is anyone supposed to reply to that? Even though the Chat FAQ lists what chat rooms on SO might be used for, its kind of independent in that people set up their own rooms and maintain their own rules (which is conveniently available on the sidebar to the right for this room)
 
user1804599
@MarcoA. because C++ is shit and depressing and boring.
 
Lounge<!C++>
 
that is true but PHP and JS are way worse.
@Morwenn Frankly, I don't know why people with questions don't just click "ASK QUESTION".
I think that the design of the site is pretty unambiguous
 
@AmagicalFishy LRiO, is that you?
 
4:13 PM
@Prismatic Haha, if I were good enough at C++ to know, I wouldn't be asking! Though telling me the question is too vague is, in itself, helpful response. (also, no, Etienne)
I'll try and figure out what other specifics I need
 
Database deadlocks are fun
 
@AmagicalFishy crank it up. Also: if you show that you did your homework people will be way more inclined into helping you (can't give you 100% success rate.. people are people)
 
yo lounge, what would you name a function that starts or stops maintaining a history of when something is added or removed from a list
 
Wear a +2 cloak of interesting problems
@Prismatic A what
 
Going back to NYC!
Wonderful.
 
4:15 PM
@Prismatic grandmaEventMemoryTrigger
 
@Prismatic ButtHandler
 
all excellent suggestions
 
@Nooble must be cool. Literally. NYC is surely cooler right now than my place.
 
@Puppy this is offending me ill have to report you to the PC police
 
PC master race
 
4:17 PM
StartHistoryTracking(...); StopHistoryTracking(...); ClearHistory(...);
 
@Prismatic long one but kinda descriptive: enableListHistory(bool)
 
@Prismatic Crappy mutable side-effects.
 
or logging
 
Favour readers over writers
It doesn't matter that it's ~~long~~
7
Don't be POSIX
 
I don't understand what you're talking about
 
4:19 PM
@CatPlusPlus let me star that out of its context
 
Original
 
@CatPlusPlus can you elaborate pls
 
You read code more often than you write it
 
user1804599
@MarcoA. ugh no
 
user1804599
enableListHistory should never disable.
 
4:30 PM
@elyse right, might be misleading. What about switchListHistoryStatus ?
that is also kinda contrived
 
Ell
I thought I saw @lightness in Stockholm today
 
user1804599
How about two functions instead of one that does two things?
 
toggleListHistory
that could work
 
user1804599
Toggling is often a recipe for disaster.
 
user1804599
Idempotency is good.
 
4:31 PM
doSomethingIllBeFiredTomorrow
with an ASCII penis drawn in the comments below
 
Yes
In fact forget about the function
 
and possibly an optimized implementation of bogosort
 
hmm
cylon.js
what could possibly go wrong
@MarcoA. No guarantee that it actually does so.
 
Outsort, where you outsource sorting of the array to an offshore company
 
@CatPlusPlus I like it
 
4:33 PM
Internet of Vomit
Stupid gadget fads
 
@Ell Did you run?
 
@Ell Here, sit down and have a drink. It was probably just a nightmare.
2
 
Ell
:'(
 
@CatPlusPlus Sleepsort- where you go to sleep and implement a sort in the morning.
 
Where you go to sleep and leave the sorting to the graveyard shift
Shockingly implementing a real-time messaging system in a week yields terrible results and you can't fix them in 2 days
Plus all sorts of idiotic business features that are supposed to sell shitty premium plans
 
4:38 PM
@Ell Sockholm syndrome: When someone claims to run into LRiO in Stockholm
 
dropSort - some random elements of the array are lost during the sorting process but the resulting smaller array is guaranteed to be sorted
 
Ugghhh
 
how do you pronounce JSON
 
JSON
 
jay-son
 
4:38 PM
jeeeyyy--sss-ouuu--nnGGgh
 
this guy pronounces it 'jsong'
like a french word
also man these python cats are mad hung up on style stuff
 
JßON
 
PEP8 is gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarbage
 
4:39 PM
I feel like they'd have a panic attack if they saw my c++
 
Ell
J'ai son
 
@MarcoA. It's pretty hot here.
 
user1804599
@Prismatic jason
 
@Prismatic if he said gayson he'd surely be using jqueery
^^ look at all those puns, look ^^
 
shameless
If you were a font you'd be called Shame Sans Pro
2
 
4:46 PM
> Achievement completed: The Eye of Zaoron
kek
 
@Prismatic That's only in the southern part of France
 
@Nooble I got it
 
@MarcoA. Yeah it doubled my message, does that sometimes when you lose connection.
 
Ell
5:15 PM
I think my Language requires implicit parameters
 
@Ell You're making a language?
Dude call it L.
You should seriously call it L.
 
Ell
I am :D
Well actually its called l
Though that kinda looks like an I
 
Do you have a repo?
 
Ell
No
I have no code
And ill seriousness there prollu won't ever be any code
 
5:37 PM
I forgot Pascal exists
 
Pascal is cool
 
5:58 PM
hmm
designing KSP rovers is hard.
 
user1804599
6:15 PM
 
7:17 PM
@Rapptz Yeah. Still not sure how I feel about it.
If it has private tabs I’m sure I’ll end up using it though.
 
ah fuck
it's awkward when you fly all the way to the Mun and then realize you forgot solar panels.
 
Ell
@elyse do you eat sill?
 
user1804599
What?
 
user1804599
I don't know what sill is.
 
@Puppy Better than flying all the way to the moon
 
Ell
7:23 PM
I think it is called majtes in dutch
It's some kind of prepared herring in a tin
 
user1804599
I don't eat fish.
 
Ell
I see
@JohanLarsson you are Swedish, right?
 
Ell
Am I supposed to cook this stuff?
 
Matjesill?
 
Ell
7:26 PM
Yeah :)
 
how's the toe
 
nope, just eat it with boiled potatoes.
 
blech boiled potatoes
 
Perhaps knäckebröd boiled egg
 
Ell
This taste is extremely foreign to me. sweet fish
I only have triangular bread so I'm just eating it on thay
 
7:29 PM
yea it is pretty hardcore
@Ell and a beer right?
There are easier kinds of sill
 
Ell
@Puppy the previously infected one is no Longer infected but I have terrible blisters on my pinky toe
@JohanLarsson I didn't realise the off license shuts at 3 on Saturday and doesn't open until monday :(
 
user1804599
woo, I implemented generics :v
 
user1804599
in the type checker
 
Ell
I was told this is the law though. Is it like that all over Sweden? Im in Stockholm
 
7:31 PM
@Ell you only eat the fish right?
@Ell I think so, you can still pick up light beer in stores <3.5% alcohol
 
Ell
is there anything besides fish in there? O.o
 
the juice :)
no need for drinking it ime
 
Ell
Ah yeah I just ate the fish
I don't think I can stomache much of it though :P
 
surströmming tomorrow then?
 
@Ell That looks truly disgusting and I would not consume it.
 
Ell
7:35 PM
@JohanLarsson I think while I'm here I have to give it a shot at least :P
 
don't forget beer then :)
 
Ell
Good idea
 
@Ell That does not look too bad.
 
^^ what it usually looks like when eating it. I never had radishes with it though.
not everybody likes it, far from it. I find it decent.
^ how surströmming is eaten, tunnbröd, surströmming, potatoes, raw onion + beer.
 
Ell
7:41 PM
Do you like it?
 
It looks nice.
 
@Ell I don't have it very often, not sure really. I'm not like this about it though.
 
Guys. It is late evening and I am getting hungry and you start posting deliciously looking meals. You are mean!
 
Ell
Grab yourself some grub then @wilx!
 
@Ell My fridge is nearly empty.
 
user1804599
7:53 PM
sub f[T: *](x: T, y: T): T { … }
// f("ok", ()) fails with "could not unify 'mill.text.String' and '()'"
 
user1804599
 
Xeo
@wilx Order something
 
@Xeo It is bit too late for that. :)
 
TIL about boost::wave this will be useful
 
Xeo
@wilx Oh, also no late-night restaurants in your area?
Most restaurants here are open till 10, some till 10:30. Only Subway is open past midnight
 
7:56 PM
Dunno, probably McD has 24/7 nearby.
Don't worry, I will survive. :)
 
Xeo
cue song
 
TIL about this
The Paillier cryptosystem, named after and invented by Pascal Paillier in 1999, is a probabilistic asymmetric algorithm for public key cryptography. The problem of computing n-th residue classes is believed to be computationally difficult. The decisional composite residuosity assumption is the intractability hypothesis upon which this cryptosystem is based. The scheme is an additive homomorphic cryptosystem; this means that, given only the public-key and the encryption of and , one can compute the encryption of . == Algorithm == The scheme works as follows: === Key generation === Choos...
it led to ways of working with data while keeping it encrypted for security++
 
@AlexM. bookmarked for later reading
 
try to see if you can get this month's issue of IEEE Spectrum, there's a whole article dedicated to working with encrypted data
 
I wouldnt know where to buy it.
 
8:00 PM
by two guys who developed a DB system supporting this with a reported 27% slowdown only
technically you can get a subscription at spectrum.ieee.org
but from what I see some stuff from prev month get posted on the site every month
 
lol
 
Xeo
Hm. I could order something today.
Or I make something myself
 
Ell
What is boost wave?
 
Xeo
C preprocessor
But really. Do I make something myself, or do I order pizza?
 
8:05 PM
When in doubt: pizza /cc @AlexM.
 
user1804599
@Xeo Yes.
 
yup
pizza is the way to go
 
Xeo
lol
 
well you could make your own pizza
 
Mmm.
The KMFDM - XTORT album is not too bad.
 
Ell
8:11 PM
@xeo make something yourself!
 
@wilx sounds like a really evil Linux window manager with it's own X11 extension to me
 
@sehe Hello!
 
user1804599
XD
 
user1804599
I am very happy.
 
user1804599
Today was a great day.
 
8:15 PM
@Columbo I see the joke is the sadistic keming
 
Ell
@elyse how come?
 
user1804599
I implemented type inference.
 
Ell
Noice
 
@elyse ($\#@times_laid)++ requires non-strict evaluation
 
Ell
I'm trying to figure out how it will work in my language
 
8:17 PM
@sehe Haha.
 
@Ell Trivially in most cases.
there are a few that are more troublesome like inferring the return type of recursive functions
 
user1804599
Depends on your requirements.
 
user1804599
H–M is very easy to implement.
 
IIRC, H-M can't handle quite a few situations that would crop up in many languages, like function overloading.
 
user1804599
Good thing overloading is retarded anyway!
 
Xeo
8:21 PM
@Puppy Meh (unconstrained) function overloading. :P
 
Function overloading is the business
 
Sep 9 '14 at 13:57, by Puppy
"Your requirements make my ideal solution awkward or impossible? Just change the requirements!"
 
Woop woop
 
@Borgleader Cool
 
8:23 PM
wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
 
@wilx Negligence. Could have made that an recurring transaction
 
usa.txt
 
plot twist: he was taken hostage over his overdue child support
 
@sehe lol
 
> Please note that your new subscription term will be backdated to the expiration date of your previous subscription to keep your software maintenance uninterrupted.
I just love this bit
 
8:27 PM
(fun fact: the dutch police can do this: they can take you hostage if you're unable to pay a fine that is payable immediately. That's highly exceptional, of course, but some people take the offer when they're flat broke and the police catches them with a huge sum of fines outstanding. This could include tax offense fines by the wway)
@CatPlusPlus huh
 
user1804599
Reminds me of a guy who got a $300000 fine and immediately paid it cash.
 
@sehe Ever used boost::wave?
 
Tried to
 
Didnt work?
 
It's not very easy to use, IMO.
It worked, but I didn't achieve what I tried to achieve, AFAIR
Something with including virtual files loaded from somewhere / lazily
 
8:36 PM
hmm ok
im just looking to preprocess shader files
 
2
A: c preprocessor with virtual file system

seheFrom the docs to Boost Wave: The Input Policy The input policy type may be specified as a template parameter to the wave::context object and is used for customizing the way, how an included file is to be represented by a pair of iterators pointing to the beginning and the end of the resu...

 
user1804599
Let's write a parser.
 
Hah. Just noticed the OP ended up posting the fixed solution after all. Neat. +1ed
 
user1804599
C++17 namespace boost::wave::iteration_context_policies. :D
 
@sehe Ohh, you just gave me an idea. I'm bookmarking this.
 
8:48 PM
lol
 
@elyse Obviously wasn't fined enough.
 
I love the KMFDM texts in their earlier albums.
Who's the artsy anarchist
Who's the magic masochist
Who's the piggish postulator
Who's that anal agitator

Who is who
Who the hell are you
They sometimes make no sense but they sound awesome. :)
 
user1804599
> My C++ knowledge is obviously limited, but I expected to hear a trumpet announcing the polymorphism knight on his trusty steed, but instead all I can hear is a horse fart and a sad trombone :-(
 
...
 
@elyse :D
 
user1804599
8:54 PM
 
1990s were indeed the best time for music.
 
std::initializer_list should be a built in.
 
@sehe you're back?
 
@Nooble It effectively is a built in.
 
8:57 PM
@ʞɔᴉN Just pushed out a little answer in my limited wifi here.
 
ah ok
 
A-Ok!
 
not until you're back for good my love
 
@sehe new home?
 
user1804599
Apparently Swift has an indirect keyword.
 
9:01 PM
I could get used to this. Today was a bit too much of literal "in the cloud" operations though
 
user1804599
It causes indirection.
 
user1804599
@wilx please don't laugh at newbies stumbling upon type errors. — elyse 10 secs ago
 
user1804599
trololol
 
Swift is pretty silly really
 
user1804599
I've never used it, so I can't tell.
 
9:05 PM
I have not been able to figure out what @πάνταῥεῖ was thinking when he posted this stackoverflow.com/a/31891968/85371 (10k+)
 
@ʞɔᴉN What is he back from...
 
@elyse well... Have you seen his answer?!?
 
user1804599
Yes, and it looked very reasonable.
 
I mean, all unclarity of question aside
@elyse Hmmm?
I have used defines for such case in my programs:

    #define OPT_FILEPATH_KEY "input"
    #define OPT_FILPATH_SHORT ",i"

Use it as follows

     (OPT_FILEPATH_KEY OPT_FILPATH_SHORT, po::value<fs::path>(), "Input folder");
^ that is reasonable, when, why and what for?
 
user1804599
9:08 PM
As long as you #undef afterwards, it's totally fine.
 
What is the goal? You know, the part to make it reasonable
 
user1804599
Namespacing may also be a good idea.
 
How does it improve on the original?
 
user1804599
I'm trolling you. :(
 
You should feel bad.
 
user1804599
9:09 PM
I don't. :D
 
user1804599
Fuck the system.
 
FTR: I'm not the one to kneejerk about macros. Therefore I'm not trollable on that.
 
@sehe You should do more livecoding hehe.
 
I could have the most awesome scenery there
missed it
 
user1804599
should've used a scope
 
user1804599
9:20 PM
I like how you can have higher-order modules in OCaml.
 
9:33 PM
@sehe Simply I've been using that pattern of defines (and combining them by simple string literal concatenation with the definition of the options). The first define serves for accessing the right option key, making it less error prone for typos, that's all of my reasoning. Didn't fit that question though.
 
bah
the BBC News's quantity of actual news diminishes by the day.
 
@Puppy Maybe it'll make like american media and start covering the republican presidential primaries
 
they already did a small coverage, mostly about Donald Trump making himself look like an abject moron
 
9:48 PM
Is there a diff for 11 to 14 to 17? besides the compilers compliance pages?
 
you mean, between 14 and the completely unfinished 17?
 
Indeed I do.
 
yes, it totally exists, the guy who wrote the page simply teleported into the future to determine the diff.
 
So to maintain a changing document, one needs to time travel?
 
user1804599
only if it is not yet/anymore available
 
9:55 PM
We had quite a lot of discussions about c++11 before it was available. That is a silly distinction.
 

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