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3:00 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes have you played that?
 
I remember learning how to use Excel formulas when I was like 10
 
It's probably shit
 
@ElimGarak it's probably shit
 
Xeo
lolz
coworker of mine just had a build fail thanks to a randomly flipped bit
 
Lol.
 
3:02 PM
he what
 
@TonyTheLion oh sure, nothing wrong with that. But when you start to run past the max formula length for a cell, and have to use many layers to combine together, it's well out of hand
 
@thecoshman I agree.
 
@Xeo as in an actual hardware fault flipped bit?
 
> a randomly flipped bit
how does that even happen?
 
@Xeo Better than if it succeeded.
 
3:03 PM
@TonyTheLion Random background radiation/cosmic rays and other EM interference.
 
Xeo
The Unreal Header Tool tried writing TEXT(...) (X - U+0058), and instead generated a TEࡘT(...) (ࡘ - U+0858) - which has the 11th bit flipped.
 
@unordered_meow lol. Our sales manager pronounces "sheet" like that
 
@Griwes Seems pretty boring to me.
 
3:05 PM
@Puppy and badly designed circuitry
 
Beautifully closed on their end. :D
 
from memory, well designed circuitry does not eliminate hardware bit flip errors, it only reduces the probability (a lot)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yup. I contemplated "fitfhing" that for... 0.01s
 
@sehe oh no not the managers
 
@Puppy But badly designed ones increase it a lot.
 
Xeo
3:06 PM
Never actually seen this happen
 
^
 
Xeo
Or affect anything, for that matter.
 
We had a Commerce Server 2012 course once (yes, that's bad) and the instructor invoked "bit flip" as the explanation for wonky prepared VMs at least 7 times in 2 days
Needless to say the instructor didn't get much of a favourable review
 
it's theoretically possible
 
3:07 PM
18 hours ago, by unordered_meow
you guys are too easy
 
Ell
I have never seen bit flip happen
To my knowledge
 
A DIMM dice of ECC RAM corrects about 4 bit flips per day.
 
Ell
How come we don't see the effects of it then? Or do we just not chalk it up to bit flip
 
@Ell corrects
 
@Xeo isn't that super rare?
 
3:10 PM
I thought most RAM was non-ECC
 
Ell
But most of us don't use ECC ram do we?
I know I don't vOv
 
@Mr.kbok More than super rare, in a sense that it actually fucks something up.
 
I've found ram errors to be extremely rare unless the ram is actually unstable.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Are you going to an arctic expedition?
 
3:17 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'll see you there!
 
I haven't seen a ram error that wasn't related to overclocking or incompatible ram/mobo since years ago. And I'm hammering 32GB/64GB boxes.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ice cold beer for everyone.
 
> Shortly before midnight last night, Dawn completed its twelfth revolution over the sunlit side of Ceres in this mapping phase. That concluded the observations required to make the first map.

The spacecraft is now pointing its main antenna to Earth and transmitting its precious results. It will continue sending pictures and other data until tomorrow night.
 
glShaderSource(shader_handle, 1, const_cast<const char**>(&static_cast<const char* const&>(shader_source.data())), nullptr);
 
@nabijaczleweli God, OGL is such terrible shit.
Danny O'Dwyer of Gamespot got fat.
 
3:20 PM
@ElimGarak big deal
 
@thecoshman He is now. #lel
 
Feb 24 at 17:30, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Yep. 68.2°N
Again.
 
@nabijaczleweli gross
std::string source = ....;
char const * source_data = source.c_str();
glShaderSource(shader_handle,1,&source_data,NULL);
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Fun. What are you going to do there? Are you going with friends?
 
69.68°N this time.
 
3:23 PM
"With 248 mass shootings in US in the 238 days of 2015", is this shit accurate?
 
well now we know what they’re up to
 
@ElimGarak At that rate, you could say that the whole of 2015 was one big mass shooting in the US
 
@Mr.kbok Yep, going with two friends.
 
 
First time was fun, but we didn't get to do all we wanted.
 
3:26 PM
 
@sehe Yeah, I am questioning the accuracy because that's a Gawker site.
 
So we'll go all the way up to Tromsø this time.
 
@sehe That's so messed up.
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's pretty cool. Except for the balls freezing.
 
@ElimGarak I (not depicted) was better prepared than my friends.
 
@ElimGarak Argumentum Ad Deficientia Authoritatis?
 
3:29 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nice. :) If only I could walk properly, I would do something like that.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Which is in itself surprising :)
 
All in all, terrible. There was one yesterday, 2 dead, 2 wounded.
4 on the 26th.
 
This time we rented a cabin by the glacier, and a car.
Also booked a whale watching trip.
 
@sehe Studied the references, they often aggregate home invasion turned shootings as well.
And lots of others stuff that wouldn't necessarily land in the mass shooting bucket.
 
@ElimGarak Yeah. Their criterion seems to be “It is only logical that a Mass Shooting is four or more people shot in one event.”
Which, in my opinion is about reasonable
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I just knocked the off that ... "question"
 
3:34 PM
@sehe OTOH, I brought a camera with a zoom objective, near-useless for landscape photography; I blocked my SIM card the moment we got off the plane; and I booked the train compartment for the wrong day.
 
Oh. Good to hear you were your true self when traveling :)
 
The only thing I did right was bringing proper Arctic attire.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's an impressive feat in its own right. :P
 
They let us take the train anyway, but without a compartment, so we had to sleep on chairs.
It actually turned into a cool story. We met a really nice racist guy who let us partake of his booze.
 
"Really nice racist guy" ahahah
 
3:37 PM
@ElimGarak We were all white.
 
@nabijaczleweli Where are youuuu.
 
Do we actually have a black Lounger?
@Nooble probably is, grew up on the streets.
Learned C++ on a corner.
 
@ElimGarak I do not think so.
 
Hmm, would a classic 3ds max / maya rotation control, styled for gaming, be okay for the positioning plane in Kyrostat?
Seems to be the intuitive way to rotate it, centered on the current spacecraft.
 
I think camera position should be constrained
That's the only way to have sane controls IME
 
3:49 PM
Ah, the whole idea of Kyrostat is the freedom of camera, but won't be a problem to constrain it as well for those who want to. Also, quaternions are love.
 
@ElimGarak Maybe insane is the way to go, though. That's a lounge project after all.
 
:25379956 Not ugly, but why'd you link it?
 
@sehe currently refactoring using pugixml, LOCs reduced by ~80%. Thanks for the advice :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Gyrostat, hah.
Add a little thickness to it, with antialiasing and some glow styling, it will fit right in.
@Mr.kbok I will ensure there is a strict sense of "up", even though up doesn't mean much in space. Most people get confused or rotate into impossible situations.
 
3:56 PM
@ElimGarak Thanks :P
I think there should be a "up" for the camera but not for the ships
Most space games I know involves ships looking like planes and having the top in the same direction. That's silly
 
Oh, the ships can go anywhere they want. It is crucial. Positional and directional warfare was the initial idea. Moving the ship into positions of firing and also defensive positions, flanking etc.
 
Cool.
 
How's it going, guys?
 
@ElimGarak Why have firing positions?
Radial symmetry seems like a clear advantage to me in terms of ship design.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah, that's for some bigger ships that have big guns which are highly directional and require some time to align with the target. Smaller ships would be ideally there to defend it while it gets into position to tackle another big ship.
The small ones can have turret points which can rotate all the way around. Will probably require a shit ton of balancing.
 
4:05 PM
How does propulsion work?
 
@Mr.kbok Directional are main engines, orientation is thrusters, with some variation on the big ships. But it has to be physical, otherwise it looks wonky. You have the start position and the end position, the orientation of the spacecraft and the game figures out how to move there physically.
 
@Columbo Cool
 
Orient the ship with thrusters and then move with engines. And that's where inertia comes into place.
 
> Compiler Support VC++ lol
 
4:07 PM
> Excpetion safety (giggles)
 
@ScottW sup
 
@ElimGarak But I mean, the movement will work like on the surface, with a limited speed, right?
@ScottW What are you guys working on?
 
@ElimGarak No, no... thrusters are for making the ship spin. Have you not seen Interstellar? :D
 
@ScottW What kind?
nice
keep me posted about all those lounge games I'm interested. yes even you @nabijaczleweli
everything even remotely touched by a lounger becomes a lounge project
7
 
@Columbo No clang release works yet?
 
4:12 PM
facebook IPO was a lounge project
I'm working on a game too. I predict the music will be terrible
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes There has been one bug, which was quickly resolved by Richard Smith last night.
Apart from that one, it works with 3.6 IIRC.
 
@Columbo So, yes?
Ah, well, fix the readme.
 
@ElimGarak Well, yeah.
 
@ElimGarak "quickly resolved [...] last night" is not a release.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes For lounge projects, it's a success :P
 
4:14 PM
I know talented people who can do music but they can't do assembly
Cuz it's a nes game :)
 
@Mr.kbok Will maek sure to do so
 
@Mr.kbok Yeah, some gamey restrictions there. Going too physical often annoys players.
In reality, the engines do not fire from point A to B continuously. And in games, they do, because particle effects.
 
@ScottW I've read the usual stuff (yoshi's, zophar etc.) so far I have this:
progress is SUPER SLOW but steady (ig)
I'm learning about the sound chip now because I don't want to realize I have to do something over months down
yes I've read all of it :)
 
@Mr.kbok Enabling sound breaks it?
 
I have the powerpak too, but my machine just broke.
 
4:19 PM
If you're trying to detect unallocated memory, just have your allocator stamp freed memory with a special pattern, if you fetch that pattern, you'll know the buffer was deleted. — Borgleader 27 secs ago
idk wtf op is trying to do
 
@ElimGarak Does it? It's a huge hack so I'm not really surprised.
@ScottW Thanks, will do.
 
FPS drops to 0.0, I'll try Chrome
 
@Borgleader game developer
@Ben A glitch can happen like in all games.And because its easier to debug. :D ,sry didn't watch who was asking lol — nik123 1 min ago
 
Ccr
hi guys
 
4:21 PM
Hi.
 
Ccr
somebody is in mood of teaching today :P
 
I'm sorry for that
 
I'm sorry, too.
 
get a room you two
I do my for loops like that now
for (pugi::xpath_node_set::const_iterator iter = market_data.begin(), end = market_data.end(); iter != end; ++iter)
 
Ccr
@Mr.kbok is that chicken in the game?
 
4:24 PM
Yeah I know C++03 no boost
 
@Mr.kbok yeah that's suckage
 
@Mr.kbok Come on. Respect his emotions. I sadly cannot do anything to fix the horrible experience he has. I mean, people being in the mood for teaching is such a rare occurence, you can't really prepare for that
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I know. However, someone who doesn't want to build trunk can still use the lib with 3.6 or 3.5, she just can`t fully use stable containers.
 
@Ccr It's a duckling.
 
@Mr.kbok I just range-for
@Mr.kbok Ow. That removes much of the charm of the library
 
4:25 PM
It's okay, we'll migrate in a few months. One thing at a time. You can't imagine the drivel I had to take out this morning.
 
@Mr.kbok It's just as bad as writing Java 5 today
 
Anyway, time for table tennis.
 
But I'm happy you reached for the xpath features immediately. That's where it shines (and usually the only sane way to use XML anyway)
 
@Columbo You should mention that, then. It's important to know you can use an official release.
 
Ccr
@sehe does such rare occurence has ever occured in this lounge?
 
4:26 PM
There were 7 projects GetProcAddress()ing each other for no reason
 
@Mr.kbok Oh. You underestimate my imagination
 
kLOCs of commented code
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I did :-) (i`ll make it clearer, wait)
 
@Ccr No. Grammar errors have a very low probability of being spotted in the wild
@Mr.kbok Oh, you'll find the reason. One day
 
Ell
Slow but steady progress is better than fast spurious imho
 
4:27 PM
The guy who wrote it left and most of the code is not used anymore so I'm afraid not.
 
@unordered_meow Making a game does not make you a game developer. I made webpages one, that doesnt make me a webdev.
 
Item #2
 
@Mr.kbok Patience
 
@Borgleader sure
> How to attempt to read unaccolated which does not exist
unaccolated memory
 
I've been playing guitar for 10 years, I am still not a guitarist.
 
Ccr
4:29 PM
@Borgleader what if he make a good game? will he be considered as game devloper?
 
My memory has won a few accolades.
 
@Ccr People are too obsessed with titles.
 
Ccr
thats true
 
"R." best title
 
Mr. best title
 
Ccr
4:32 PM
" " best title
 
@Mr.kbok Arent you supposed to be Pr.kbok now?
 
Second semester.
 
user1804599
hi
 
Also I probably should train in speaking audible English.
 
Ccr
so you are going to be professor soon @Mr.kbok?
 
4:33 PM
@Ccr Second semester.
 
Anyone in our industry at least half competent can claim about 10 titles or more easily. And it just gets obnoxious. Take an indie developer: Animator, Modeler, technical artist (rigging), texturing artist, Programmer, Rendering Programmer, Game Programmer, Art Lead, Creative Lead, Project Manager, Dick Sucker, Sound Designer, Sound Engineer.
 
user1804599
@Mr.kbok Aber tu est français.
 
Ccr
thats preety BOLD
:P
 
I'm a Senior Equity Quant C++ Architect Consultant
@elyse All the more reason
 
@ElimGarak Most hands you have shaken had a dick in them.
 
user1804599
4:35 PM
I need a delicious slut.
 
what for?
 
@Mr.kbok here's some information on the thresholds to beat:
The absolute threshold of hearing (ATH) is the minimum sound level of a pure tone that an average ear with normal hearing can hear with no other sound present. The absolute threshold relates to the sound that can just be heard by the organism. The absolute threshold is not a discrete point, and is therefore classed as the point at which a response is elicited a specified percentage of the time. This is also known as the auditory threshold. The threshold of hearing is generally reported as the RMS sound pressure of 20 micropascals, or 0.98 pW/m2 at 1 atmosphere and 25 °C. It is approximately the...
 
user1804599
For sucking COCK.
 
@Mr.kbok I'm a "Software Enginier" (sic)
 
@unordered_meow ugh, the accepted answer is just common sense... "use containers, and a debugger" whoopdifuckingdo
 
4:37 PM
"Use computer to resolve issue". Also, plug-in your keyboard for maximum effectiveness.
 
@Borgleader that's a correct response to unreasonable requests
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Maybe you're a more enginy software
 
I'm proud of my typoed title.
 
@sehe will be the star of Pitch Perfect 3.
 
I tried writing a similar answer, but I'm lacking patience
 
4:39 PM
The rule of thumb is that you usually don't want to talk to people who ask you what you do.
 
Hmm, should put that in business cards.
 
@sehe I appreciate funny nitpick but would appreciate more a correction. I'm expected to talk decent English in a few months after all.
 
The "(sic)", I mean.
To make it clear to people that I'm fully aware of the typo.
 
I am good at touching computers.
 
@Mr.kbok How decent? Your English seemed ok when I met you.
 
4:41 PM
@Mr.kbok Usually the ones who think they speak decent English are the ones that don't.
So you're probably just fine :P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think it got worse, but maybe it's just my girlfriend who thinks it's terrible.
 
Dump that bitch.
 
lol
 
Meet Robot in the alley.
 
@Mr.kbok So. "Passable English", "decent English", "English fluently", "English reasonably well", "Conversational English" etc.
 
4:41 PM
She has a masters in English literature
 
@sehe Sensual English
 
@ElimGarak his arm was full of use USB sticks, what a junkie
 
sexy english
 
I've got one USB stick at hand this very moment, can't use it because a bootloader for OS X is on it. xd
 
4:44 PM
@Mr.kbok Then maybe get her advice before you dump her.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Softwear Engineer
 
@Mr.kbok So, she would be a homeless person without you? :P
 
@ElimGarak I always carry two USB devices on my keychain. One of them has a keychain inside it.
 
@ElimGarak idgi
 
4:45 PM
@Mr.kbok A jab at the idea that she has no job prospects.
 
Around here, at least. No technical expertise, no job.
 
Well, she's trying to make a living off photography so yes
Still more a money maker than literature
 
I want programs way more constexpr
 
Meh, constexpr.
 
and in the meantime OP asked for a double hash table
I forecast disaster
 
4:48 PM
I think constexpr is useless
 
it's annoying, just like noexcept and const
 
Not entirely, but yeah, most of it is party tricks.
 
My significant other is still a medical student. That shit takes almost a decade in case of proficient ones, but you can work about 6-7 years in, right?
 
it's just what C++ needs, more annoying qualifiers you forget to write
 
4:49 PM
> “If you say, ‘We're looking for a rockstar, hardcore ninja to come in here and just murder the code,’ that's kind of violent and oppressive, and indicates you have a company culture of machismo and chest-beating,” Schlueter said.
> We don't care about your credentials. We really only care about what you can build.
 
Oh, gawd, I have nothing against female programmers, but shoving women into programming simply because they're women is an idea I find terrible.
 
@Prismatic lolwut
 
English level 3/10
 
> Many startups are using policies that require managers to interview at least one woman and one person from an underrepresented group before they make a hire. This policy is often referred to as the Rooney Rule
 
4:50 PM
Pikachu put on a lot of weight
 
@Prismatic Fuck that. I don't give a shit about women or underrepresented groups. You've got the skills? You've got the job. You can be the most generic white person ever, don't care. You happen to be a woman or an "underrepresented group"? Good for you.
 
man did you guys see that new pokemon game thats a tekken cross up
pokemon doing kung fu and stuff looks so crazy
 
once again I raised the conversation quality bar significantly higher
constexpr and interviews -> pokemon
 
Ccr
last cartoon i watched was naruto. too bad its finished
 
One of my girlfriends' models is attempting that big-ass programming school in Paris
 
4:53 PM
Inria?
 
42
 
@Borgleader That's pretty amazing.
So, how do you guys feel about all this diversity crap, that having a dick and being white could potentially trump your skillset in the eyes of an employer? How is that not discrimination based on having a dick and being white?
 
^ this girl
 
@Mr.kbok Shes 42?
 
4:57 PM
@ElimGarak Yes, that's called positive discrimination. It's controversed, but a big thing in the US.
 
I had one acquaintance like that, hot, but dumb as a bag of bricks. She went to study computer science.
 
@Borgleader Literally the name of the school 42.fr
I don't think she's dumb.
 
@Mr.kbok Tell me they have a page explaining why the hell its called 42 =/
 
Ah, mine was. She's back now. Works at a local coffee shop, served me a delicious frappe a few days ago.
 
But I know a lot of dumb guys who work in the field. I guess if women were to compete with them they would replace them, thus raising the bar.
 
user3883753
4:59 PM
Hi again
 
!H
 

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