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6:00 PM
@AlexM. Never applied anywhere yet.
 
and if I like the answers I get in return I let them know and do interviews
 
wait aren't you studying
how can you study and not work
 
I'm just reading the posts and advertisements.
 
@milleniumbug Everyone just loves training people who's never done anything with a particular tech
 
@BartekBanachewicz study holiday
3 weeks = paid
legal
etc. etc.
 
6:01 PM
> We recently started a 6-7-week tour around Europe to showcase the project and hopefully connect with many potentially interested people.
what the fuck
they have an OpenSource Haskell 3D engine and they are going on a tour?
Is this a joke?
 
@milleniumbug lol man , my site is not slow ! what it does is too much ! i write a program that Scan a list of 42k API ! and i need to use lots of proxies too for it to work fast ,
 
@BartekBanachewicz seems appropriate to me
it's Haskell so it will have to be shown
 
20 minutes seems slow to me
 
fans won't passively show up themselves
 
6:02 PM
@CatPlusPlus Meh, they'll train themselves or get fired.
 
@Pedram Yeah great we don't care also don't fucking do that
 
too fucking bad there's no haskell jobs around.
 
Sink or float
 
One option is to create one for myself
 
@milleniumbug It's a cost
 
6:03 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Is that an EU thing? in the US I see a ton in banks/hipster startups
 
@CatPlusPlus For Faks sakes ppl :D i did not come to talk about what i do or why my site is slow lol i asked what happen is i click another button while another one is running !
 
@Mikhail yes :/
 
posted on June 05, 2015 by Herb Sutter

I just posted my Lenexa ISO C++ trip report over on isocpp.org covering our recent meeting. The ISO C++ committee is shipping more work sooner via concurrent Technical Specifications, but it’s still fairly new to find ourselves doing so much work that the “new normal” is to issue an international ballot from every ISO C++ meeting. This […]

 
@Pedram we don't give a fuck
 
@Pedram Nobody cares, really.
 
6:04 PM
We don't know, we don't care, go away before I kick you for doing stupid abusive shit
 
I wish I could start my teaching job this year
it's a bummer they suspended the course
oh shit I forgot to email the dean
eh it's friday anyway
 
DARPA Robotics challenge is live now! youtube.com/channel/UCOIHBHRbvncMo7Bf0Vx1zEQ Be bored by watching the most advanced humanoid robots! :D
 
someone remind me about that on sunday
 
@Nican they all seem to be stuck?
 
user1804599
woo Pat Condell
 
6:06 PM
:| GG ! such a community ... i ask a question and i get someone commenting i'm a retard and when i talk back and get back to topic i get we don't fking care replies :| well nvm bye !
 
@Mikhail No, they are just very slow.
 
GG lol
 
I competed on the challenge last year; Believe me, the people in the control room are pressing 1000 buttons, the robot just takes a while to process.
 
We should tip robots, like the cows of y'ester year
 
6:07 PM
speaking of robots
 
you know what would be great
 
roboarena won't make itself
 
some sort of gallery mode with a special tiny place for people to request invites
"I want to talk here because..."
 
The operators only have a dial-up connection between the robot computer and the control room; So it takes a long time for the operators to download the badly-compressed JPEG images and robot state, and make a decision.
 
I like the dramatic zoom: youtube.com/watch?v=SHz_uLfrras
 
6:09 PM
Kids are annoying
 
Also, computer vision sucks, so leaving the robot to make all of the decisions is reall hard.
 
Kids making Steam bots are double annoying
 
Oh no! IHMC fell. :(
 
I communicated with a toddler two days ago
 
6:09 PM
I was at the post office yeah and he was in this thing used to carry toddlers with wheels
and entered some weird stare at me -> hide away -> repeat cycle
so naturally I started making faces and he laughed while going back to hide
 
We should make that cv-pls crap instakick
Also annoying
 
user1804599
Kickbot 3000.
 
What do you guys think of my new computer/prospective? pcpartpicker.com/p/4GBVP6
 
@Mikhail Expensive AF
 
@Mikhail ask @Mysticial
he's the expert
 
6:11 PM
lol 2 CPUs
 
@Mikhail Are you trying to build a computer that is able to build Android?
 
Its actually for a 50k microscope I built...
 
Ah.
 
@Mikhail But can it run Crysis?
 
@Mikhail take it to reddit or something and ask the people
"Hello will this run games well?"
 
6:13 PM
it's not for games obviously
 
@Mikhail case is boring, that's the main issue
 
@Mikhail dunno what feedback do you want
 
@BartekBanachewicz ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
(( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°) == whoosh)
 
@AlexM. true
 
Also, wow, did not notice SSDs were getting this cheap.
 
6:14 PM
@nabijaczleweli it is because I say so
in this case it is
@Nican yep
there's this company that manufactures some SSDs atm and when they'll release them they'll have 1:1 price compared to HDDs
forgot what that company was
one sec
 
Put the employees into a working cage and whip the from time to time — Dieter Lücking 39 mins ago
 
@Mikhail why 2 ssd's when you could get the 1TB version?
 
@nick RAID 0 I'd guess
 
ITT $177 being cheap
 
6:16 PM
@milleniumbug for a 512GB? That's not a lot
I bought my latest 256 for like... 100 I think?
 
> 662.387965 Polish zloty
 
@AlexM. but surely a 1tb drive is cheaper than 2 500gigs?
 
what does that have to do with RAID 0
 
Excuse me while I laugh at the robots just randomly falling.
 
@milleniumbug you're building a PC, not paying for coffee :|
 
6:17 PM
@AlexM. raid 0 is striped
means you get 1 tb
 
I think if you choose to do RAID 0 you do it for the speed
 
My PC is like 4 times that
 
also i take that back, 2 of those drives are a bit cheaper than a 1tb
 
not for the capacity/cost
 
ah i see
 
6:19 PM
@milleniumbug then it p much qualifies for low-end
 
i don't understand the point of 12 cores either haha
but that 64gb DDR4 got me feeling so thirsty
 
@nick You don't get it really?
That's for compiling C++ programs
 
ohhhhhh makes sense
for that massive parallel build
 
@nick I want a few hundred cores (or more)...
 
@JerryCoffin CUDA?
 
6:21 PM
@nabijaczleweli ...na kiju
 
I want to be able to compile with make -j and never end up with a hung system
@milleniumbug lol
 
@Griwes I made that mistake once.
 
in other news, Lounge<Poles>
 
@JerryCoffin why though? each core alone is pretty weak, and most programs arent optimized for multithreading
 
@milleniumbug lel
 
6:22 PM
We are taking over.
:D
 
dunno if that's a good thing
 
@Griwes it's bartek's plan to turn this room into a polish spawning point
 
:D
 
it's always "bartek's plan"
 
@nick I'm not thinking of something like a GPU, where each core is too weak to do much. Perhaps kinda something halfway between a normal CPU and a GPU, with a lot of cores but each is still reasonably capable by itself.
 
6:24 PM
@nick You can run more programs in parallel even if each one isn't using multiple cores
 
@JerryCoffin maybe a henhexaconta-core intel phi? :)
 
Also cores aren't weak
 
yesterday, by caps
What makes Red Bull "dangerous as hell"
 
While most programs aren't optimized, I have the source to the stuff I wrote :-)
 
@rightfold you never answered this question.
 
6:26 PM
@CatPlusPlus You're using those cores that hang out at the gym. They may look strong, but...
 
@CatPlusPlus i guess that would be useful if you want to run a bunch of virtual machines but..
 
@caps Mixing it with alcohol for one
 
If you're not using VMs, you're doing it wrong
(Also in general more cores is less contention is better)
 
VMs are finally usable on my machine
 
uh okay this pc slowness is becoming annoyin
when I do one thing it's ok
but chrome and hearthstone is apparently too much
 
6:28 PM
@milleniumbug Why is Red Bull different from coffee in that regard?
 
@nick I've looked at those, but they look to me like anything that does much communication between cores will run into problems pretty quickly. There was a leak recently hinting at them having on-chip fabric within the next few years, which could make them more interesting.
 
@caps It isn't. Coffee is dangerous as hell too
 
yesterday, by caps
Red Bull doesn't have any more caffeine in it than a cup of coffee. They actually got sued for misleading marketing recently over that.
 
@CatPlusPlus actually if you're not using Docker you're doing it wrong
 
Fuck coffee
@nick I'm using VirtualBox
 
6:29 PM
@milleniumbug lol
 
@JerryCoffin on chip fabric?
 
so is water
 
@nick rkt is the shit
 
Get rkt
 
@Mikhail Food for thought: A stock 5960X will beat that system outright.
 
6:30 PM
@caps I like monster
 
Mmm food
 
My daily email arrived
> Send me a F#ckFriends request so we can hook up

My usename is DeepInTammy3

My profile is here. SEE YOU SOON
 
@Mysticial More food for thought: That part is not currently available for purchase.
 
@CatPlusPlus but it doesn't have a pretty website
 
6:31 PM
@Puppy That's only because you're not Mysticial
 
@AlexM. No offence, but overpriced shit
 
well, actually, I guess I might have been thinking of the 5790k Skylake stuff
 
he bought them all
 
why would I be offended
 
@milleniumbug Monster is quite alright.
 
@Columbo imho they all taste the same
 
yeah I was thinking of Skylake, not Haswell-E
 
@AlexM. Don't you know you're supposed to be offended that someone doesn't like things you like
 
@Columbo I got one from Mrs. Justine Rehd
 
@BartekBanachewicz So what? They still taste good, imo.
@nick Mine is from Celia Roberts
 
6:32 PM
@Mysticial Wait why? Is it the clock speed?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Btw., found a job yet? :)
 
@nick Apparently direct connection from chip to Omni-path. intel.com/content/www/us/en/omni-path/…
 
@Columbo no :(
 
@BartekBanachewicz :(
 
@milleniumbug monster and rockstar are both better deals than red bull, just sayin
 
6:33 PM
@Columbo I'm thinking about doing some contract work, but no idea where to look for that
 
@BartekBanachewicz What about you learn Webdesign? You'll be heavily underpaid, but at least you'll be paid somethin'?
 
@Mikhail Yeah. If you did a perfectly multi-threaded test that does not use AVX, then the Xeons come slightly ahead. But if you use AVX at all or you aren't perfectly threaded, the 5960X will be better off. And I haven't even begun on the overclock potential.
 
@Columbo well I could apply for a junior dev role with that attitude, eh?
 
I'm getting "ld: library not found for -lrt" when using make on Mac.
 
@JerryCoffin that sounds like some Zen shit
 
6:34 PM
I mean, Webdesigners survive, right? They're not zombies or some shit?
 
I'd be paid 1/3 of what I should be paid
 
Anyone know how I can make the make command ignore that library?
 
@BartekBanachewicz What's the difference?
 
@Columbo well I still have 1.5months to work at my company anyway
 
@BartekBanachewicz Oh, that's alright then. I thought you're currently unemployed.
 
6:35 PM
My 5960X @ 4 GHz will beat out 20-core Haswell servers simply because of the clock-speed and AVX throttling.
 
@Columbo 2-months.
 
@Mysticial Doesn't that assume a certain workload?
 
@Columbo C++
 
I'm not sure if AVX will help if the workload is iterating through a 10billion item linked list.
 
@Mysticial What does AVX have to do with it? Also, isn't 3GHz some kind of peak rate?
 
6:35 PM
@Puppy Yes, for my pi stuff. Which is heavily AVX and not perfectly threaded.
 
ooh, wireless pi with like 36 hours of battery to do nothing with :P
 
@Mikhail Haswell Xeons throttle on AVX.
The Xeon you're looking at will downclock to 2.1 GHz when running AVX.
 
@Columbo The ones I've talked to...I'm not sure, but their being zombies would explain a lot.
 
@Mysticial he does have 2
 
also what's typed Racket?
isn't Racket typed by default?
 
6:37 PM
No, that would make a racket :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz No, of course not (it's a Lisp after all).
 
@nick (2 x 6 cores * 2.1 GHz) vs. (8 cores x 3 GHz) - The Xeons come out slightly ahead, but that requires perfect parallelism which is probably not going to happen for most work-loads.
 
@JerryCoffin My local priest told me that holding a ruby-on-rails book up high will banish them
 
And the 5960X is easily overclockable to 4 GHz.
 
6:38 PM
I could do some C# work I suppose
 
@Mysticial That's not particularly impressive, though, is it?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Actually, looking that, it could sound nasty or condescending. If so, I apologize--I didn't intend it that way.
 
@JerryCoffin I uh, I am prolly the last person here you should apologize for something like that to. Been guilty way too often.
Also it wasn't inappropriate at all.
 
@Columbo 3 GHz -> 4 GHz is pretty impressive. But obviously still slower than the quad-core desktop processors which will go 4.2 GHz -> 4.5-ish depending on whether you want to be AVX-stable.
 
@Mysticial Yeah, but my I7 is normally clocked at what - about 3? And can be overclocked to 4? And that's a usual Desktop processor, isn't it?
 
6:41 PM
mysticial knows so many cool nerd stuffs
 
and yet he doesn't know C
 
@Mysticial what about hyperthreading
 
@Griwes You make that sound like a bad thing lol
 
@Griwes ^
 
@nick These all have hyperthreading. So it's an even game.
 
6:42 PM
@Mysticial is there some advantage to having 2 CPUs, like more memory bandwidth?
 
the xeons have 3 virtual cores per real core i believe
 
HipChat fucks up code formatting worse than an intern on shrooms.
lel
 
what kind of place gives interns shrooms
3
 
id take some coke, no shrooms plz
 
@Columbo @AlexM. it's this room's meme :F
 
6:44 PM
I see
 
@Mikhail That would be the only advantage if you can distribute the bandwidth across the two nodes. But with DDR4, it's hard to max it out unless you're really trying. Quad-channel DDR4 @ 2400 MHz is already overkill for my 5960X @ 4 GHz.
 
@AlexM. Microsoft. Only someone on shrooms invents a TrustedUser
 
The other advantage is showing off your Task Manager graphs.
 
ThrustedUser
 
24 is more than 16.
7
 
6:45 PM
ITT @Mysticial finally understands integer ordering
 
@Mysticial How many tacts did your processor need to work that out for you? :P
 
@AlexM. the same kind that discovers Ballmer's peak
 
multiplayer piano round 2
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's it! You could invent the piano!
 
for fuck's sake I have to keep the AC running non stop
it takes 20 minutes
 
6:46 PM
You'd steal the idea, but then again, you reside in Poland
 
like literally 20 minutes
 
@BartekBanachewicz later
 
to get from 22 deg to 24+
with it turned off
 
welcome to June
 
It's cold enough here <3
 
6:47 PM
@Mysticial I bought dual-channel. Fucker.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Fair enough. Being honest, though, when I act nice, it's just so when I want to be nasty, it'll hurt even more... :-)
 
@AlexM. Open the window and take all your clothes off instead
 
@Puppy You probably didn't have a choice. You need the socket 2011-X stuff to get 4 channels.
 
yeah
I can't afford Haswell-E parts
 
@AlexM. The whole reason we hired that intern was because he was supplying the shrooms...
 
6:49 PM
"Have you read the source code?" http://t.co/m5fNldawYl
10
WAM. Dat burn.
 
hence "fucker"
 
Because jealousy makes sense
 
@sehe rekt
 
@nick ☐ not rekt ☑ rekt
 
@sehe Nice one. Reminded me of another one in similar climates
 
6:52 PM
@JerryCoffin lol
 
@Griwes ☑ Tyrannosaurus rekt
 
@nabijaczleweli here, you are missing this: ☑
 
> Noone killed your puppy
 
@Griwes 2unicode4me
 
DRUGS MOTHERFUCKER
 
6:54 PM
@sehe reminds me of that post by the guy who made python
and the recruiter who thought he was a good fit for a python job
 
@Mikhail Btw, my 5960X build is this. It's also running 64GB of ram. If you count in the price drops and your high-end video card, it comes out to around the same 3k-ish price range.
 
well
£24 to protect from accidental breakage whilst installing £820 of equipment?
that sounds like a fair deal.
 
@Mysticial wtf is with the keyboard though
 
@milleniumbug yup
@AlexM. yup
 
3k build, doesn't even buy a mechanical keyboard
 
6:58 PM
Is the CODE Keyboard well-respected here?
Or is it actually shit?
 
i have the same corsair c70 case (in black), nice pick
 
I really don't get this whole mechanical keyboards!!!!!111111 thing
 
I wouldn't switch back to membranes
I like the clicky mx blues
 
@nabijaczleweli never used it myself but it seems neat
 
so nice
and loud
 

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