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4:00 PM
15 quintillion cookies
 
@райтфолд Aren't you a fan of command-query-separation?
 
whoa
a job invite that is actually personalized
and makes proper references to my past work experience
did pigs start flying or sth
 
Hell just called. It's full of ice!
 
too bad it's not very interesting :(
oh well, next one maybe
I mean it would be if they did something like... s/Adobe Flash/Unity/
 
Yeeeeeeehhhhh Week End!!!
Sings Rebecca Black
 
4:06 PM
I was there, I can confirm.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes sign it with keybase!
 
to double confirm?
 
I really wish there was a way for me to join some team and do a proper game with Unity :(
maybe once I finish college and can move to another country
 
crypto is fun
 
4:07 PM
@BartekBanachewicz What? That I uploaded the picture?
It's right there.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Beautiful
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that the person I am talking with is indeed robot and not someone who got to your pc when you went out to pee at work
 
@AndyProwl Oh yes, it was. Even without seeing the aurora, the trip was totally worth it just for getting to experience the landscape surrounding the village.
 
Shit. I got ice, snow and fir trees right, but forgot about 'frozen lakes'.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Did you know in advance what to visit over there, or did you get hints from the locals (assuming there were any locals)?
 
4:13 PM
@AndyProwl We just walked around at our own whim.
 
Xeo
Looks vertical.
 
It's fine if you follow the link
at least for me
 
Xeo
^
 
Beautiful too
 
4:14 PM
Dropbox on the phone does weird shit with images.
 
Skyrim/10
 
> Agda is probably the second most popular proof assistant after Coq. Philosophically, the design of Agda is more biased towards programming and the design of Coq more biased towards theorem proving
@R.MartinhoFernandes might be image metadata about orientation
 
@AlexM. Hehe, guess what was my playlist all throughout.
 
Darude - Sandstorm?
 
4:16 PM
From Past To Present is the best piece there :)
it would fit any calm scenery
 
I like Sky Above, Voice Within.
 
Firefox again has trouble with <video> and CPU usage spikes like crazy
idgi
Also widget is unresponsive
 
jeremy soule sure is amazing
I wonder if he has his own compositions available
not driven by a game producer
 
Maybe Chrome got bit less sucky in the past two years and I could try it out again
(haha)
 
@AlexM. I love this bit here youtube.com/…
 
4:21 PM
Browers are so fucking annoying
 
user1804599
@FredOverflow yes, but how is it relevant?
 
user1804599
Oooh
 
user1804599
It was a link. I see.
 
> Calling David Brower an important environmental activist is like calling Hamlet an important member of the Danish royal court. Brower invented modern American environmental activism.
@CatPlusPlus
 
4:26 PM
Wtf is a "browers"??
 
user1804599
A talk about CQS seems incredibly boring, though.
 
A programming talk boring? Well I never
Dead websuckets don't time out grrr
 
Close Quarters Shitting
 
user1804599
lol
 
user1804599
Ask on Stack Overflow about the difference between CQC and CQS.
 
4:30 PM
@CatPlusPlus Web sucket, eh.
 
pair programming should be renamed to CQP
 
The two wackos I went with. And no, they're not dressed appropriately for the Arctic.
 
Yaay timeouts
 
I went on a jeremy soule trip right now
I remember getting my first PC after having one that handled things like UT 99 max
and firing up this
going from 90's games to Oblivion in a second is sure to leave an impact on your memories
@R.MartinhoFernandes here, I always thought this would fit snowy nights better than the summery nights the game had (unless you went north)
perhaps it would've went well with the rest of the Skyrim tracks
 
@Andy here's a few select ones dropbox.com/sh/hdr7dzh04bhr3sq/AACAFSaLbQbM2eD0Z3urBnw5a?dl=0. I'll add more as I browse through and pick the good ones.
 
4:37 PM
Ha, a hockey rink. Of course.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nice, thanks for sharing!
lol playing football here must be challenging
 
@AndyProwl We just ran around falling instead.
 
that looks like a longhouse
 
Well, I did. The others were wusses.
 
4:39 PM
> Error (403)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol you tried?
 
@AlexM. yep
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes In case anybody still cares, I've posted an answer that I think is a little more...balanced. And no, that doesn't translate to unrestrained C++ fanboyism--or at least I don't think it does.
 
4:43 PM
2
A: Why structs and classes are separate concepts in C#?

Jerry CoffinBy analogy, C# is basically like a set of mechanic's tools where somebody has read that you should generally avoid pliers and adjustable wrenches, so it doesn't include adjustable wrenches at all, and the pliers are locked in a special drawer marked "unsafe", and can only be used with approval fr...

 
@AlexM. That house is by the lake, near the weird lonely bench (this: dropbox.com/sh/hdr7dzh04bhr3sq/…; house is a few metres to the right).
@JerryCoffin I'll have a look later. I need to bail now.
 
5:00 PM
@JerryCoffin That answer is just a response to C++ is a horrible mess and doesn't even mention OPs classes and structs thing
also it is friday
 
Friday!
 
user1804599
Hi.
 
user1804599
So I had a wonderful idea.
 
@Pris Sorry, but I don't agree. It answers the question fairly directly--C# couples things because the designer(s) think it's generally a good idea. C++ decoupled them, even though doing so can get you in quite a bit of trouble.
 
5:17 PM
@райтфолд [sigh], it must be Friday.
 
user1804599
Procedural programming is great.
 
@JerryCoffin Personally, I have never observed slicing to be an actual problem for any vaguely competent C++ programmer.
 
@Puppy Well, robot is a competent programmer, but does seem to have slicing issues.
 
@Puppy I can't say I've run into issues with slicing, but I can't it's frequently useful either. IMO, it's enough more likely to happen by accident than design that it should probably require an explicit cast to make it happen.
 
5:27 PM
Spock died. :(
10
called it tbf
 
@JerryCoffin Well your tool analogy is kinda broad. Its an answer to a lot of "why is X a certain way in C#/Java vs C++". Honestly I think a more specific answer is ("C# language devs made classes and structs separate concepts because of reasons X Y and Z"), not just "because they wanted to make C# safer". Why does making classes and structs separate make C# safer?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit rip nimoy
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit link?
 
@Mgetz www.theentireinternet.com
 
user1804599
I don't know what to do.
 
user1804599
What to do?
 
5:35 PM
 
What do how live
 
@Pris It's not about simply "safer". It's about picking out one way of doing things, and just rolling with it, rather than providing for essentially every way of doing things.
 
@JerryCoffin It is by design- not intentional, but it is. You could warn it
 
@Puppy Yes, its inclusion in the language is by design. It's actual use is nearly always by accident. IIRC, at least some compilers do warn about it--but it's utility is sufficiently rare that (IMO) as part of the language it would be perfectly reasonable to require a cast to make it happen.
 
@JerryCoffin Right, except that there's no way to really prove that slicing is happening. It's simply a byproduct of implicit reference conversions. It's not something that compilers have to support specifically or anything. You would have to define exactly what constitutes slicing first.
 
5:46 PM
holy crap I expected blue switches to be clicky but fuck me
this shit is LOUD
the sound would wake up a sleeping bear
 
@AlexM. using mechanical keyboards at school put me off buying one permanently... they feel nice but are way too noisy
 
it's actually so loud I'm not sure if I like it yet
I definitely like the other parts though
 
Xeo
@Pris There are silent mechanical keys
 
which keyboard did you get?
 
Xeo
5:48 PM
expensive.
 
@Xeo I hear most of them are loud unless you mod them with lil rubber bands or something
 
@Xeo pair that with the fact that I jumped to it from a $8 keyboard :P
 
Then there are the capacitive switch ones which are just too expensive
 
US$159 for a keyboard though wtff
 
Xeo
5:49 PM
@AlexM. I'd jump to it from a $0 keyboard - gift from a friend :P
 
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit cheapskate
 
my desk is finally complete though
I have all I need
there are some absurd-ish facts
 
Xeo
although technically this thing was also over a hundred bucks
 
like the fact that my keyboard is more expensive than my GPU
 
Xeo
@AlexM. One screen? Ew
 
5:50 PM
and the fact that my monitor is more expensive than my GPU + everything else minus keyboard
@Xeo couldn't afford 3 of them :(
 
what kinda monitor is it
 
and I have no room for another monitor until I upgrade my desk
ok, first things first
gotta get the SDK for the keyboard
I'll write some code for it tomorrow
 
What can you do with the SDK?
 
you can write programs that manipulate the lights and most likely input
it has a dedicated ARM processor just for that
the other processor I have no idea what it does
 
manipulating lights are cool I guess
manipulating input is CHEATING :p
 
@Puppy Yes, it is possible to prove slicing is happening. In fact, the compiler has to generate code to make it happen. I'm not sure what you think you're talking about with "implicit reference conversions." The primary problem is when you pass by value. For example: coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/5ade6311c6398f05
 
@AlexM. All I can think of is why
 
Now, with this code, the compiler has to take the Derived object, construct a temporary Base object from it, and pass that temporary object by value. I'm saying that any such code that forces it to construct that temporary object would require an explicit cast.
 
@Pris for the tinkering
you hook up to programs, read their state
and make your keyboard react
they didn't include stickers
they included stickers with their cheapest mouse
but not with their most expensive keyboard
k
 
@JerryCoffin That would eliminate 99% mistakes, yes. However if a function f calls a function void g(Base&) with Derived argument, which then would call a void h(Base) function, the compiler would have to know if g is called with Base or Derived. It's a contrived case, yes, but I'm not sure this can be checked easily by a compiler.
 
5:58 PM
apparently the actor who played Spock or sth died
 
user784668
@milleniumbug It can't be, see halting problem.
 

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