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12:13 PM
@Telkitty how often do you conduct market research?
 
There's 8 stacks of candy corn on my thief for some reason
 
@AngryLettuce $$$
 
Also new thief mechanic?? What is this F2
 
or actually you can trade it for 20-slot bags
@AngryLettuce it’s the skill you steal
 
Nice, separation of concerns etc
 
12:14 PM
so you can F1 again once it’s up without having to use the stolen skill first (they often have cast times)
@AngryLettuce exactly!
 
@sehetw @johnregehr I do it mainly because I detest anything after XP and the last MSVC that runs on XP doesn't have C++11
Not gonna respond.
 
Don't you know you have to absolutely unconditionally love the OS your build VM uses????
 
> build VM
 
@JohanLarsson Sorry, I left in despair after writing that message :D
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes. AFAICT it's because he "earned" traction by lobbying wide and high before pitching the PoC implementations (?). So, it's as if he has the "defacto not-objected-hard-enough-against" proposal
 
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12:18 PM
 
I wish we had a build VM or any build system actually
 
@Elyse ol dhat
 
user1804599
I think you mean "lol dat".
 
@Elyse lol that title
 
12:19 PM
Can you unspend hero points @Luc
 
@AngryLettuce no, aren’t you 80?
 
then you can unlock everything
 
Ah good
 
btw I’m chaining the Wintersday jumping puzzle so I may take time before answering
 
12:20 PM
what puzzle?
 
the ThinkPad W540 looks cool but
isn't a dual core w/ 4 threads i5 a bit too little in that budget
 
lol 4 threads only?? any winter sock has more than that
 
Holy shit 20 stars how did that even
 
I guess the perks are the 4 RAM slots and the Quadro K1100M for whoever needs that
 
and let's not speak of the fibers
 
12:22 PM
@AngryLettuce aren't ht dual cores slower than real quads
 
that's why I mentioned it :P
 
@набиячлэвэлиь please have one more
 
I'd expect a real quad in the eur 1500+ budget
 
12:25 PM
lol dahell is that
 
it's an agility course to train your agility skill
 
also "Leshak" - that's funny
 
only 50ish more times to go
 
Ugh jumping puzzles with that stupid camera
 
12:31 PM
@CatPlusPlus I use action camera
 
@AngryLettuce you're the expert, do these quadros do anything special that regular gpus don't
the internet is always undecided on this
 
you mean compared to a tesla or gtx or igpu or what
 
a gtx ye
what does say, the quadro I mentioned above (K1100M)
that a GTX 9XXM doesn't
since it's sorta in the same budget
 
yeah it has more double precision units do you care probably not
and I think quadros handle larger displays or something
anyway the target users are design/3D professionals
for games I don't think it makes a difference at all
IME the only thing that quadro has that's better than GTX is the double precision units
which games seldom (if at all?) use
 
did I say 50, I meant more like a hundred
 
12:38 PM
nerd
 
@AngryLettuce I’ll show you my ice-themed Norn once I’m done
 
@AngryLettuce eeeh so there is a difference
 
@LucDanton how many shades of pink
@AlexM. for games I don't think so no
for other types of applications yeah
 
yea for games there isn't but I remember leaving it at "there is no difference just a price increase" after reading some well written eloquent internet debate on it
 
lol
yeah ofc there is a difference nvidia isn't entirely retarded
but for the gamer I don't think you'd care
and generally speaking people posting on forums don't know shit
I mean they just look at the public specs and price and they don't dig deeper so they don't understand what's going on
when in doubt summon Domagoj
 
12:45 PM
you’re an unscrupulous Domagogue
 
uuuugh sunlight
I can see the dust on my desk
gotta use blinds
 
@AngryLettuce Is there really a difference? I thought many quadros and regular gaming cards used the same chip, just different drivers exposing slightly different feature sets
 
well I don't know if there is an actual hardware difference (maybe all nvidia does is enable/disable features), but from the point of view of the software there is
You can have a kernel that exhibits difference performance characteristics on quadro and gtx
 
man these are hot
 
@AngryLettuce I'm sure @ElimGarak knows :D
 
12:58 PM
@Telkitty: According to some local news there are fires burning houses down there in Australia. Are you insured? :)
 
but it's so lame when you live in an apartment because you can't really go loud with the music
 
Higher end quadros now even have ECC
 
I hope I'll be able to move to my own house in 10 years :<
 
That used to be Tesla only
 
@AlexM. Wrong. You have to find an apartment with thick walls like mine. :)
 
12:59 PM
Definitely something gamers don't care about and don't want to pay for
 
mmm this is like my dream home
maybe as I grow older and grandparents progressively die leaving houses behind
 
@AlexM. Very mundane. :)
 
caffo
 
Also I just checked but Quadro M editions are still using compute 3.0 so you defo don't want a quadro on mobile
 
I have thirty cousins. My grandparents don't have enough houses.
 
1:01 PM
:)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes whoa.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I have a very... fragmented (?) family as far as socialization goes
there are cousins with whom me and my parents never talked in at least five years
same goes for grandparents
we just know other parts of the family exist and find out when something big happens
like deaths
or marriages
or childbirths
thank you, please continue with your incredibly useful contributions
 
@AlexM. :D
 
@wilx The bush fire is in another state, only some 1200km away
but thanks for concerning
 
> Don't be one of those people who thinks that small talk is meaningless and a waste of time. You have to start out with small talk to make meaningful connections with people.
so has kell is not enough :<
 
1:13 PM
Small talk best talk.
 
Is it possible to legally get books to a noname book reader that allows only copying files to its storage? Like, get stuff I have on Kindle to that device?
 
just get the files you paid for and put them on your ebook reader
the first thing I did after I bought a DRMed book from google play that didn't let me open it with a regular pdf reader on my PC
was to remove the DRM and stick my man parts in their retarded store
you're welcome
google play books: never again
 
@AlexM. Well, how do you do that with Kindle stuff?
 
that I'm not sure, but there has to be a tool to extract files from your kindle
 
r u a hacker
 
1:19 PM
@AlexM. What else is there that is usesable beside Amazon Kindle store and Google Play store?
 
@wilx it depends on what you want
I buy my programming books from apress and oreilly directly
no DRM
for other books, not sure
 
@AlexM. Well, I am interested in sci-fi mainly, recent-ish stuff.
 
basically you can get books from anywhere provided you are ok with investing 5 minutes to remove their DRM
not all books on google play are DRMed
not sure if they provide an indicator
with my book it was pretty comical because after clicking on it google play tried to open it so I can read it
but because of the DRM it failed to display on their own site/app XD
the DRM was adobe's
 
@Elyse Is this the real deal? Is Perl 6 finished? Or is this some kind of beta?
 
> Rakudo Perl 6 #94 “коледа”
 
user1804599
1:33 PM
@fredoverflow Don't know. Ask @Ven.
 
Perl 6 "SukaBlyat"
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow lol my name is in that list
 
user1804599
I did one pull request.
 
You're famous now
 
he'd only be famous if he told us his real name
otherwise the association cannot be made
:P
 
but does it spell merry christmas in ascii?
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow Looks like the heap of presents needs to be rebuilt.
 
user1804599
Monoid.prototype.sum = function(xs) {
    return xs.reduce(this.operation, this.identity);
};
 
rip connection, rip farming
 
user1804599
super awesome
 
I’m going to shell out the remaining 40g or so @AngryLettuce you around?
 
Link-time problem: « cool, I can simply add constexpr ».
 
2:18 PM
@Elyse Why? I do not see it.
 
user1804599
MONOIDS
 
2:28 PM
lol @ PhD
the first guy is not only PhD he's also MD
 
@AlexM. Is that a cage behind?
 
@ElimGarak lol good eyes
this was from a reddit post
> Sigh...when your family knows you're a gamer.
 
His PhD work was probably on video gaem addiction, so he's one of those lesser PhDs. :D
 
@AlexM. is that a point&click or something
 
> The Curse of Game Addiction
Alex M. - theoretical PhD, MD, all-around nice person
 
2:32 PM
Theoretical degree in applied physics
 
yes
 
nubberies
 
shrubberies
 
sup pup, work on the site! :P
 
I cannot, I am in the swamp
I may be leaving on Monday
 
2:35 PM
I thought about working a bit today, but everything hurts from yesterday. :(
 
nubbery
 
Now I'll have to workout for 2 weeks to undo the damage. ;~;
 
haha ok this was sorta funny
 
@AlexM. lol what game? (and is it pc only?)
 
@Borgleader looks witcher-ish but it's just a shitpost
so I dunno
 
2:36 PM
The blacks look better on PS4
 
@AlexM. link?
 
the colors are witcher 2-ish but I doubt witcher 2 can look that good
 
Yeah, Witcher 2 used fog and extreme depth of field to phase out undesired LoDs which often confused the shit out of me in Flotsam.
 
Best guess is W2 by google
 
> I don't think you understand how this works.
^^^^ :D
 
2:39 PM
yeah it is, its in the images here
 
Man, I really like GOG.
 
my eagle eyes are spot on as far as colors go at least
 
As much as I liked how W3 looked, W2 was gorgeous too
 
yes it was more artsy
witcher 2 on low details was still pretty
witcher 3 on low details was eh
 
@jaggedSpire who wants a treat? :3 /cc @TonyTheLion
 
2:41 PM
"decent, but meh" :D
@Borgleader That's a bit terrifying :P
 
the best part of witcher 2
lesbomancy
@Borgleader lol this is nice
 
ahah, the dwarves :D I side with Iorveth every time just because of the dwarves.
 
so portrait-y
give me a second
gimp loads slowly on hdd
windows 8's lovely start menu loads in 5+ seconds wtff
 
@AlexM. s/on hdd//
 
at least I can just enter part of the name and press enter before anything shows
 
2:45 PM
i read that with clarkson's voice
 
a fuck it it's too slow
just imagine your favorite RPG with visible character portraits
and that dog's face on one
it works
ok
 
@Borgleader Is that thing under him actually useful for traversing distances or is it just a toy?
 
@ElimGarak Is is supposedly able to travel some kilometres.
 
3:02 PM
> TIL that during the Yule, one of the festivals which Christmas originated from, the Norse god Odin is believed to lead a ghostly procession called the Wild Hunt across the night sky, and undead draugar will rise and walk the earth.
D: D: D: D:
the witcher is a christmas tradition now
 
Santa of Rivia
Geralt Claus
 
Spooky.
 
@AlexM. Also, Skyrim :D
 
@ElimGarak What should I use for RTS AI? plz halp
 
@Borgleader Haven't you guys already talked about this? I'd go the usual route, invent my own shit. :D Basically, before you come to terms with decision making and strategy, have you considered tackling the execution of decisions first, like pathfinding and navmesh generation? :D
 
3:09 PM
@ElimGarak Yeah.... I guess I should do navmesh stuff. There used to be an addon that did it for you but it was for the old version of the library... i dont really need to do pathfinding really because i can just tell the units "go there" and the game handles it as if the player had done it.
you essentially have the same controls as the player but through an api rather than the ui
 
@Borgleader Yup, that's the general idea :D
 
but ill need navmesh for placement of buildings
so i guess i could do that
 
Generic RTSes implement several modes for the AI around the game rules, you can always create two extreme "morph targets" of behavior and then randomize between boom and rush. And have Gandhi drop nukes by overflowin'. I appreciate games which let me specify that I want the AI to focus on economic progress, for example. Rather than molesting me with a fleet of ships.
 
I wonder if there are other games than Starcraft that have an API like this (official or not)
 
> TIL that when a woman asked Leonard Nimoy "Are you aware that you [as Spock] are the source of erotic dream material for thousands and thousands of ladies around the world?", he replied "May all your dreams come true".
3
lol smooth
 
3:14 PM
lolllllllllllll
 
@Borgleader You don't feel like writing it yourself? :D It's pretty fun if you can spare the time. But I guess you really want to build a gaem first, tech second, right? :D
@AlexM. smooth
 
holy crap the community on SO is toxic
 
@Mgetz Swift is toxic :P
 
@ElimGarak I know nothing of dll injection/reverse engineering/... needed to write an API like this
 
@Mgetz well don't just stand there, ly leave
 
3:16 PM
@ElimGarak I thought C++ people were nitpicky, but no the swift people downvoted me for answering the general question the OP was asking and not the very specific un-useful question the OP asked
@AlexM. I did... it wasn't worth my time
 
Yeah, I harbor huge disdain for Objective-C and Swift, and Apple's annoying habit of acting like it is the best thing ever when it is pure shit. Porting stuff to OS X is a pain in the ass, even more so now that Metal is an ObjC/Swift API. Maybe instead of introducing more languages for Bartek to wank over, they should figure out how to reach 2010 and geometry shaders.
 
Hahaha, theres a specific callback for nukes:
void AdjutantAIModule::onNukeDetect(BWAPI::Position target)
 
@ElimGarak apple has always been a toxic player
 
I've done a little Swift at work and it's just a bunch of the worst of all common popular languages
 
@Borgleader dll injection is easy :D
 
3:20 PM
@melak47 quitting is the always hardest part
 
lol
 
@AngryLettuce light chest pieces are all garbage on males
 
I don't remember this being in the game
 
which game?
 
skyrim
 
3:22 PM
Skyrim, I remember the mage outfit and the draugr lord... But nothing close to that scene.
 
well then it's your fault for not setting everything else on fire
 
@ElimGarak Yeah I played that, its a really good remake.
Its free on steam IIRC
 
hehe. Some other things were free on steam
 
yeah...
 
3:25 PM
@Borgleader €10 now, usually €20 :D
 
o.O eh well i got it before it was on steam
it was just some exec you dled
 
@Borgleader Borgleader got it raw out of the Fridge :D
Man, I loved that intro the first time I saw it.
Love all mysterious tech exposition cutscenes, like this one from Firefly: Serenity
 
huh im looking at the API here and it seems i dont even need to do the navmesh, it exposes "GetBuildPosition" for me. welp i guess i can start on the fun stuff
 
@Borgleader The joys of not having to do things! :D
Is it sort of an indie project or will you share it with us as you go along? :D
 
idk yet, ive done an AI with this API in university, i felt like taking a second go at it. not sure how far I'll take it this time.
 
3:34 PM
evening
 
@Borgleader wow thats a lot of components: github.com/bwapi/bwapi/tree/master/bwapi
 
@melak47 Yeah you really dont need all of that. In fact on my machine the replaytool doesnt compile (i dont even know what its for). What you need pretty much is the BWAPI.dll, ChaosLauncher (its already compiled you dont need to do it yourself), and then you make your own AI dll (or executable, but i havent tried this method). And then you configure chaoslauncher to point to your dll and you launch the game.
 
user1804599
 
There is an abnormal amount of cheaters/script kiddies in GTA Online. Retards keep spawning cargo planes in my path.
 
that still sounds more fun than those who just blow everyone up
 
3:44 PM
 
> Thank you, I have already fixed it. The problem was conflicting version of boost I had installed. – Bobface 2 hours ago
Thanks @GrafikRobot! Good to see I'm no longer alone in my tag janitoring — sehe 10 secs ago
 
RANT { Our mail service is great, they guarantee 100% that your shipped fragile item that is shipped in a box with lot of bubble wraps end up broken, even though there was a fragile sticker on it, they put an address sticker on top of it to avoid being sued to pay compensation .. a personal story }
 
wow...
 
It's actually slower than I expected :D
 
3:50 PM
@ElimGarak Look for @Mikhail's
 
*(RANT+1) { you basically can't fix anything when all employees in the company are assholes, the manager said in my face "did you see any fragile sticker on it, the courier couldn't have seen it" }
 
@ElimGarak what's that, a PCIE SSD?
 
@melak47 Yeah
 
suddenly, qwertz
3
 
Indeed. You beat me to the punch
 
3:52 PM
@sehe finger slipped
 
did you know qwertz has healing properties
 
That's gotta be quatsch
define: quatsch
let's see whether wiktionary knows its stuff en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Quatsch
 
Moving between OS X and Windows confuses the hell out of my hands.
 
qwertz .. sqwertz
 
3:56 PM
@AngryLettuce you should get ig I’m as sparkly as a Bjarne
 
@Borgleader kill someone with a cheeseburger, then eat the cheeseburger, got rid of murder weapon, perfect murder!
 
A reference point for the HDD masterrace
 
That's not bad for HDD
 

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