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10:04 AM
> Game of Thrones baby names on rise
I hope someone names their kid "Grey Worm".
 
You know someone will
 
gah
thank god for new headphones
 
@LucDanton hi, no not really
 
Now you are!
 
@TemplateRex You can encode data with functions. In your case, you are encoding the number of arguments with the function that you return from list.
 
10:08 AM
@LucDanton is it used a lot, and if so, which languages?
 
@all See my code Here pastebin.com/3YiVyc1E
 
pay me and I'll take a look
 
@Template it's a thinking tool, not a practical implementation.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Can you look at this
 
10:09 AM
Japanese clothing styles. (Doesn't seem too unusual to me.)
 
lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Request payment.
I think this is just my new approach, demand payment from the askers
 
I thought openly stating that I was giving you clues I'm not interested would be an even bigger clue that I'm not interested.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes ldionne.github.io/hana
 
That being said, it does appear in limited forms for data abstraction (that closure <-> object thing). That can happen in a variety of languages.
 
10:12 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Recursive disinterest - that's new.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Some people just don't get it.
 
@TemplateRex "We're a Boost library, we promise!".
 
@iTag Obj-C... wha... why?
 
@Puppy inb4 I've just fed him.
 
Oh. They have Chianti here.
 
10:14 AM
It's not Lounge<Objective-C> AFAICS
 
@MartinJames Wasn't gonna ask. It's not Daisy's food time for another five hours, twenty-five minutes, and some number of seconds.
 
> and some number of seconds.
 
@Puppy Just popping up Lounge chat reminds me now:)
 
your inaccuracy disturbs me
 
But i asked regarding OOPS concept only .@Jefffrey
 
10:15 AM
@MartinJames Good boy! Who's a good boy!
 
@Puppy does she know when it's feeding time?
 
@iTag what they are trying to tell you, is "go away"
 
@Puppy WOOF WOOF!
 
now, go away
 
@iTag But we don't give a shit, in case you hadn't noticed.
 
10:15 AM
@iTag OOPS concepts, what are those?
 
the concept of "oops"? I know it well
accidents happen
 
@StackedCrooked She has an idea. It's not terribly accurate, but some idea.
 
@jalf you mean, shit happens?
 
@Jefffrey Object-oriented programmings!
 
10:17 AM
Now you can write a programming
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no, that's the concept of "poops"
 
Silly me.
 
Object-oriented programming stuff.
 
@jalf "Oops, I kept asking a question in a chatroom totally ignoring me and telling me to piss off"?
 
10:17 AM
It would be bad if shit didn't happen.
 
but accidents happen more often on some people ... just saying
 
eh
 
Waste of time bye @all.
 
depends on what exactly happened instead.
 
@iTag Yes, it was.
 
10:17 AM
@iTag Indeed. Stop wasting our time.
 
@iTag On that I think we can all agree
 
FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT
 
APPLE IS BETTER
 
if our bodies simply didn't produce shit, they'd have to do something else with the constituent chemicals.
 
10:18 AM
@Puppy make poop monsters?
 
Poop golems
 
@jalf Nasal shit demons.
 
Also we should've evolved teleporting instead
 
I imagine that being composed of poop gives you DR.
I mean, I can't imagine how you could meaningfully damage a pile of poop with a sword.
 
By virtue of nobody wanting to touch you?
 
10:19 AM
that too
 
A system that consumes inner poop to teleport you would be cool.
 
I think this head hunter loves to annoy me, he would call or email me once in a while to try to piss me off ...
he might read this chat because he head hunts C++ people, how lovely </sarcasm>
 
No more need to poop + teleportation for free.
 
what, convert poop to energy, use energy to teleport?
 
yes
Poop that is still in your body though.
so if you are full of shit you are able to teleport; otherwise you don't.
 
10:21 AM
How could you meaningfully damage a pile of meat with a sword?
 
welp, guess I'm walking
@R.MartinhoFernandes Depends on what form the meat is in.
 
Those are all questions we can ask DF.
 
if it's still alive then it's pretty easy to damage it with a sword.
but if it's already dead it's hard to conceive of damaging it with a sword.
 
yeah, waiting for someone to invent that tiny machine that could transfer the poop inside you into energy that could teleport you ... all you need is to swallow it & ~poof~ you are on the other side of solar system ...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes sushi
 
10:24 AM
@chmod711telkitty Sounds like an efficient means of capital punishment.
 
My dwarfs have an eyeless giant buffalo with mandibles in a pit and have been shooting at it from windows up high with practice bolts for some three months. The thing now has a list of scars that is ten screens long.
I promise that if something made out of shit shows up I'll try with swords instead.
 
@MartinJames but earth would lose matter
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Does it wear the face of a parking enforcement officer?
 
@Stacked we brought a few tons from the moon. We can spare some weight.
 
10:26 AM
@MartinJames really? sounds like a good idea to me: 1) save you the need to go to the toilet 2) save you $ for transport ... just have to time it right: everytime you want to use the bathroom, you want to travel to somewhere else ...
 
but what about the moon?
it got skinnier
 
fine, it can teleport you to the other side of earth ... happy now?
 
It's cheese. It grows back with mold.
 
apparently dreamspark software doesn't expire when your account expires, you just don't get updates anymore
I should get vs pro, can't even plugins on express
 
@TemplateRex oh, my boss linked me to that last week. Haven't checked yet.
 
10:32 AM
besides we get a few pieces of decent sized asteroids from space every year, surely we could lose a few people in return...
@StackedCrooked what about it? sun is losing weight every minute, stop worrying about the moon ...
I don't think time machine will ever exist ... I mean why has no one from the future ever visited us or people before us? We can't all be that uninteresting ...
 
Niven's Law.
Niven's Law of Time Travel, I mean.
Not the one that goes "Don't throw shit at an armed man."
Ohhhhh.
Figured out why my flight doesn't show on the panel.
Wrong terminal.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's a hybrid between Fusion and MPL, using functional terminology and it has gotten most of the Boost mailinglist confused
 
but by time travel, you are already changing the past - by removing your weight from the current time and adding it to the past
unless of course you can find a pig of equivalent weight and swap it with you
 
"slidewalk" is a nice word.
 
10:49 AM
> The core of Hana is a powerful compile-time dispatching system allowing the library to be extended in a ad-hoc manner.
Boost.NT2 has one as well o_o
 
@Puppy You still need LLVM internals to be available, right?
 
yep
I will probably submit patches to Clang to fix it but they won't accept new features/etc for 3.5, so it'll probably be fixed in 3.6
oh but it'll probably be easier for you to skip it
 
Well I have a primo opportunity for you to LEARN NEW THINGS to help you ACHIEVE YOUR GOALS
 
LLVM/Clang 3.5 is due out in a week or two.
 
https://github.com/funtoo/ports-2012/tree/funtoo.org/sys-devel/clang
https://github.com/funtoo/ports-2012/tree/funtoo.org/sys-devel/llvm
 
11:03 AM
there's little point crapping around rebuilding 3.4 to build Wide only to have to do it again for 3.5 in a week or two.
 
These need to be modified to install the source tree into /opt probably
The magic of ebuilds is that if you do it for one version it'll work for all the versions
 
fair enough.
 
Did someone mention portage is the best package manager?
 
Did you make another account on GH?
 
11:06 AM
No
 
Rename it?
 
Like a year ago or something
 
hmm
just realized that I did something totally ambiguous.
oh wait, no it isn't.
 
Sounds like whether it's ambiguous or not is ambiguous.
 
Also ugh those ebuilds are crappy anyway, they're not slotted properly
 
11:10 AM
That's criminal.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, I used the same syntax (obj.operator=, say) for both binding a member operator and explicitly looking up an operator in, say, a module.
perhaps I should simply ban assignment to that kind of type, there's no real point in it
 
Ell
Morning people
 
linker scripts
I am now looking at this thing:
ctors_loop:	ldr		r2, [r0], #4		// Load next constructor address
		push		{r0,r1}			// Save registers
		blx		r2			// Call constructor
		pop		{r0,r1}			// Restore registers
		subs		r1, r1, #4		// Decrement counter
		bgt		ctors_loop		// Repeat until done

// Call main()

call_main:	mov		r0, #0			// argc=0
		mov		r1, #0			// argv=NULL

		bl		main
and it's pretty fascinating, but I'm also pretty hopeless
 
what are you hoping to achieve w.r.t. the above assembly?
 
11:19 AM
Why do you bother with main() with argc/argv in a freestanding environment
 
I'm reading a script written by someone else
 
Also that's not a linker script?
 
and it's making it painfully obvious that I lack a lot of knowledge about how C or C++ program is being run on such a thing
@CatPlusPlus I actually think the linker script I'm using has some problems
the flash utility is spitting "programming error" out at me
and I've no idea what else could be wrong
 
> but the trick is that is_empty returns something like a std::integral_constant, which can always be converted to an integral value at compile-time.
i.e. like std::integral_constant
 
maybe I should just fuck it for now
and deal with 32kB program limit
 
11:33 AM
Looks like the end of crt to me.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well you still didn't post it :v
 
I was reading the code again. Your list is a monad, isn't? A function expecting other function to complete the computation haskell.org/haskellwiki/MonadManu343726 15 mins ago
Quite.
 
Hi guys
 
hi
 
11:44 AM
lo
 
ol
 
What frequency are we aiming for?
 
I was working on a program using c++ , mysql database. Now without the database i can't do anything with the program since everything is in the DB, i want to save a part of that database to the user computer. anyone encountred this before ?
 
Pretty sure no one ever did.
 
never, ever.
 
11:45 AM
I was afraid of that.
 
Everyone clouds everything.
 
ppl doesn't have 24/7 internet access
 
we just love the cloud in this chat channel.
 
that's why :/
 
cannot get enough of storing our data on the cloud.
 
11:46 AM
"ever" is a weird word.
"weird word" is a nice alliteration.
 
can you advice me something to do if someone can
 
Man, I am truly bored.
 
@redaa It's like this - if you have more than one live database copy, everything falls apart.
 
I have 24/7 internet access
#swag
 
I also have Internet access 24/7
 
11:48 AM
@AlexM. God bless your country
 
it's the shittiest Internet ever found in the so-called "developed" world.
but it's on 24/7.
 
24/7 internet access country reporting in
 
coverity is so awesome
 
If swamp-puppy has 24/7, everyone should have.
 
it showed me stuff that I just glossed over before
I had no idea the issues were even there
most of them related to out of bounds reading and inappropriate data type sizes
 
11:52 AM
Sounds horrible.
 
there's this out of bounds read performed that only happens under certain conditions
i.e. if the input data is invalid
but since the input data was never invalid so far, it never happened in practice
 
Yay for testing.
 
welp, the whole thing is a mess so it's no surprise there are no tests
this was part of something that I'm going to completely replace once I figure out how it runs so I'll write some tests for it then
 
Boost.Hana does make a good point for generalized constexpr, although I’m not sure that language feature was intended to be used like so.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What's horrible - the design/code/testing, or the fact that Alex now knows about the bugs?
 
11:56 AM
figuring out the stack and heap corruption sources should be easy now, w/ coverity
 
Oh. Old buddy's back in town! At least I'll do something productive today.
And by productive I mean Herman, the Belgian beer bar.
 
> Overrunning array pair of 128 2-byte elements at element index 128 (byte offset 256) using index c - 128 (which evaluates to 128)
array [...] of 128 2-byte elements
I didn't expect tools to uh... speak to you this way
I wonder how deep it can go
 
what else were you expecting?
 
"You're a dumbass"
 
lol
 
11:59 AM
I dunno something like Overrunning char pair[128][2] at element index 128
or something like that
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Never made it there:(
 
Jalf, Bartek, and Xeo did. Don't remember if Andy did.
 
So, now's the time for requests on stuff for the build server
 
Oh and cosh.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :(( a big chunk of drinking experience is missing from my life.
 
12:02 PM
Also add agent requirements to OS-lock your builds, otherwise they'll fail horribly
 
You wanted all the slovibivivicisjsa or whatever that thing is called!
 
(We have a Windows agent now hurray make libs for it)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah - I probably drunk more than my share.
 
OMG found coal.
 
You have the mining rights?
 
12:03 PM
youre playing Minecraft?
 
Gotta finally get that TC license
 
Civ 5?
 
roooooooobot
 
No, Dwarf Fortress.
@Cat ping me next week
 
12:04 PM
You back from Portugal yet?
 
Killing time in Frankfurt.
 
I'm waiting with DF for the release rampage to end
Which is also what DFHack people are doing
 
Found an embark with volcano, aquifer, iron, gold, clay, sand, flux, gypsum, and now coal!
 
Ell
I want some wurst
 
Only thing missing is unicorns.
Also, eggs are completely overpowered.
 
12:07 PM
Beh aquifier
 
time for sandwiches
 
Time to pick a new status colour for loungecppdotnet
 
@Cat aquifer + volcano is great.
 
going to put some cheese, salami and eggs in them
this should be good
 
You can pierce it easy by casting obsidian.
 
12:09 PM
What about the framerate?
 
> B'dazzled blue
 
Don't have a counter around but good enough.
 
I want to know who names colours and what drugs they're taking
 
I never actually experienced severe framerate drops and I've had fortresses with 100+ levels magma pump stacks running.
Dunno what everyone is going on about.
The other day I gen'd a world where all civilisation collapsed except for goblins.
 
Try walking into a city in Adventure :v
 
12:13 PM
Then I realised I accidentally added a leading three to "Max megabeast caves"
Apparently beasts don't rampage goblins too much.
 
They have an understanding
 
I guess it's because goblin civs are led by demons.
 
Xeo
oops
 
You guys are not drinking enough these days
 
@Rapptz Nonius version of that benchmark code from the iostream question problem is, i dont have largefile.txt
 
12:24 PM
Just generate it
 
[sigh] LateRooms.com hotel booking. Location entered 'Berlin'. Entered dates, etc and clicked 'special offers'.. Result: 'Hotel Berlino'. Location: Milan.
 
martin is going over to berlin again?
 
@MartinJames Well it's not wrong ;)
 
probably do what I do in my apps - filter keyword in name & location
 
@chmod711telkitty Maybe, or possibly Italy, depending on stupid hotel booking sites :(
 
12:29 PM
go to italy and put some ketchup on a pizza in front of jeffrey
 
@AlexM. im pretty sure he'd get killed in the process
something about blasphemous behaviour
 
not if he runs fast enough!
 
have pizza in pisa
leaning pizza tower :x
 
have a piss
 
@chmod711telkitty I have one of those already. I must fold up and recycle some boxes.
@AlexM. I could put tabasco sauce in a ketchup bottle :)
 
12:41 PM
What to do when I have two linear parallel trends on a chart, very close to each other?One is always smaller than the other, and I want to demonstrate this clearly, but they are so close they almost overlap. :@
 
@BartoszKP Fiddle the data and/or the axes.
Reposition [0,0] till it's between the lines, then scale up.
 
@MartinJames but how? they're already logarithmic, because they go up into outer space extremely fast, but scaling won't help (e.g. y = 5x + 1 vs y = 5x + 1.1 looks the same as y = 500x + 100 vs y = 500x + 110)
@MartinJames wow! thanks, I'll try this one
 
bah
dumbass libarchive-dev package puts the headers right into /usr/include instead of /usr/include/libarchive
ah
and typically, I, the owner of this machine, could never possibly be permitted to create a fuckin' folder.
thanks so much Ubuntu.
 
sudo mkdir ?
 
more like, sudo chmod a+rwx /usr/include
I guess that was too complicated an idea for the filesystem viewer though
 
12:52 PM
@Puppy You can't just install stuff on Linux like you can on Windows. You have to go through hours of chmod/chown misery before your app runs.
 
Ell
@Puppy you are permitted
you just have to put in your password :P
 
if you go to the folder, and you right click, and click "Create folder", it does not create a folder.
that's broken.
 
actually if you do sudo nautilus it should let you
nautilus being "windows explorer" iirc
 
@MartinJames Works great, thanks again. Now I only need to explain it to the reader ;u
 
i know its dumb it doesnt ask you for elevated permissions but eh
 
12:56 PM
@BartoszKP It worked? I was sorta joking? :)
 
hmm
apparently the libarchive-dev package was also too stupid to add the static library.
 
@MartinJames yeah, they went apart. Now I've noticed only one tiny problem - they were not really parallel actually, so if I scale it too much they will cross :X
 
Ell
@Puppy sucks to be you :P
 
yeah.
so much for the superior linux package management, it was easier to just dl and build on Windows
 
Ell
why didn't you just dl and build on linux?
 
1:01 PM
@MartinJames Yeah no
 
Ell
but idk why it didn't install the library
it works for me :3
 
47
Q: Why is burying yourself not such a great plan?

MrJinPengyouSo one of my player is a clever guy. At night when the others are putting the camp together he digs a hole big enough for himself (between 3-4 feet deep) and ask someone to cover his body with dirt and use a straw to breath. So his idea is to avoid ambush at night. The first time I was baffled b...

lol title
 
:@ actually, I don't know what have I done to the data
@FredOverflow I read it the other day (hot network question), these guys know how to have fun :V
 
@Ell Gonna have to, it seems
 
Ell
@Puppy does locate libarchive.so not return anything?
 
1:06 PM
That is not static
I'm not surprised there's no static lib though, they complicate system maintenance
 
Ell
oh yeah.
.a is static, right?
 
Also Ubuntu packages are terrible so there's also that
 
@CatPlusPlus Why?
 
@MartinJames lol, you've trolled me. It didn't work, I've just made an error when plotting after the transformation :S
 
Ell
@Puppy what version of ubuntu are you on?
 
1:10 PM
Ubuntu sucks.
 
@CatPlusPlus That is true.
 
@VáclavZeman Broken packages, terrible dependency choices, the -dev nonsense
 
@FredOverflow Definitely have an animal piss down the straw or something
 
Meh. I'd just drive out the teammates.
The first obvious "flaw" in the plan I thought was the fact that you are totally dependent on help.
You may survive an ambush, but then what?
At least your mates have a chance of merely being captured. You're already buried.
 
Ell
libarchive-dev comes with a static and a dynamic lib
 
1:21 PM
It's so dumb I'd probably not even care. But then the group I used to play with would either talk the dumbass out of it or abandon him for the fool he is.
Who the fuck would put up with digging him up in the morning?
 
@Ell I don't see libarchive-static in that list. The .a listed is the import library. I think.
 
Ell
@Puppy oh right
I never static link anything :L
 
or are import libraries Windows-only?
 
Ell
I guess I don't know what I'm talking about.
 
I thought they were both
 
1:25 PM
There are no import libraries for .so
 
ah
libarchive just builds itself differently on Linux, then
 
Ell
according to this .a is a static library stackoverflow.com/questions/9809213/what-are-a-and-so-files
 
yes, it is.
hmm
not sure how I convinced the ubuntu file viewer thing to go below ~ before
 
@MartinJames In case you're interested eventually I've plotted f(x)/g(x) and noted that it's always >1 and it's clearly seen on the chart :V
 
hmm
I wonder if "libz.a" is zlib?
I guess that libzlib might look a little dumb
 
1:32 PM
I like zlib, in Polish it sounds almost like a swear word
 
the only swear word in polish that I know of is kurwa
and that's because it's like the romanian curva
 
well, most non-polish people know only kurwa :)
 
there's this neighbor I have who cooks eggplants almost every week
and the whole fucking floor starts stinking of eggplants
 
:E never even heard of such a plant
oh no, I did
 
> Eggplant is a species of nightshade commonly known in British English as aubergine
 
1:40 PM
every week? :0
 
yes
it's been like this for the past 2 months
she must love eggplants or something
typically in Romania you fry their surface a bit (and clean the black thingy that falls off) then turn the insides into some sort of pasta
we call it eggplant salad
 
@Puppy Eggplant is a species of nightshade?? Isn't nightshade a poison or something?
 
yep
some of them
tomatoes and potatoes are also related to nightshade.
 
@AlexM. seems too much work for not much food :V
 
Oh, I'm thinking of "deadly nightshade", which is "atropa belladonna".
 
1:46 PM
@BartoszKP the amount of pasta you get is decent imho
I don't like the taste nor the smell :(
sample eggplant salad mixed with mayo
you normally spread it on things like sandwiches
 
yeah, I know what you do with pasta :u
 
not all pastas are the same :A
 
I've never encountered a pasta that you spread on sandwiches.
 
you won't keep me from using any kind of pasta on a sandwich :V
 
only the kind that you add sauce to.
@Ell Did you succeed in building Wide?
 
Ell
1:49 PM
@Puppy I haven't tried yet
but I'll ping you when I try with success/failure
 
might wanna hold off for a short while, as you've seen I just added libarchive and zlib and I'm just cleaning up the situation on Linux a bit.
I don't even know how to command LD to dynamically link to libarchive or zlib.
 
> why did you upload this in FLAC? are you dumb or something? when i get the chance ill upload this in mp3 to save people 38 gigs...
yeaah
 

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