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9:00 PM
YOU'RE NOT A GOOD TIME FEEDS
 
what did @Jefffrey write
also sadly but HD4400 GPU is a bit of disappointment
I could play Guns Of Icarus smoothly, but it wasn't 60fps
:18009967 Iris Pro is also integrated, so what?
it's just a slower integrated GPU, duh
 
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz Exactly, slower.
 
user784668
But TBF the GPU I have in my current box is HD4600, and I don't really need anything better.
 
@Fanael the fact that an integrated GPU is slower is deteriorating
 
user784668
Skyrim works.
 
9:03 PM
4600 is Haswell GT2 for desktop?
 
user784668
Fuck if I know.
 
@Fanael Do you know? Because I'm really into fucking right now.
 
what do you write in Haskell, Potato? Do you have a social code website account?
 
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz You're the Intel intern.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Just fun stuff. And nope.
 
9:04 PM
@Fanael tomorrow's my last day
 
Nothing special. I don't use it at work.
 
> fun stuff
> nothing special
 
@PolymorphicPotato s/use it at// :-)
 
I prolly could use Haskell at work
I mean, at my new job
but not yet.
 
I would, but my colleagues have to be able to understand my code. :P
 
9:06 PM
Haskell code is readable.
The writing is the hard part.
 
@BartekBanachewicz not if you haven't ever done anything like it.
 
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz Wikipedia says that's right.
 
Show a stateful computation with some lens operators to a noob and they'll already go crazy.
 
9:08 PM
@PolymorphicPotato BTW (don't expect much, but we talk there sometimes)
 
user784668
@Rapptz fuck IE
 
user784668
Nobody's using it anymore.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Neat.
 
@Fanael Metro IE is really nice
 
yeah fuck IE
 
9:09 PM
Screw your Batmen and your Avengers. My potato quality test footage got more hype than all of you!
 
no really IE 11 is pretty nice
 
@Rapptz Just think of IE version numbers as being divided by 10, so IE 10 was really 1.0 (and broken like 1.0 of everything), and IE 11 is really 1.1 (not much in the way of new features, but at least somewhat less broken than 1.0 was).
 
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz The userbase is shrinking.
 
on a touch screen metro IE wins with chrome hands on
 
@JerryCoffin More like 100
 
9:10 PM
@BartekBanachewicz The closest our codebase comes is the use of Underscore.js, really.
 
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz I have a keyboard and mouse screen, so.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Metro sucks so badly that "on Metro" is irrelevant.
 
@JerryCoffin does it?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yes!
 
@PolymorphicPotato hey that's something
 
user784668
9:11 PM
WTF is Metro anyway.
 
@JerryCoffin have you used it on a touch screen?
 
the tiled apps thing
 
@Fanael the new ui for win 8
 
user784668
Honest question, I never seen it.
 
Metro: the Windows 1.0 UI downgraded for the 21st century!
 
9:12 PM
answer the question Jerry :F
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yes. Marginally less awful than without a touch screen, but only marginally.
 
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz He's older than you and therefore righter.
 
these things are metro apps
you click on them and you get a full screen application
 
@JerryCoffin what's wrong in it for you? How you'd compare it to Android or iOS?
IMHO it wins with these both. Hands on.
 
user784668
9:13 PM
@Rapptz So my Windows application launcher is a part of that entire new UI?
 
@Fanael no, they have to be specifically made to have that behaviour
 
@Fanael well it can run apps that are different from desktop apps
@Rapptz you can run regular applications from metro ui too
 
other than this metro thing Windows 8 is mostly the same as Windows 7
 
not on ultrabooks
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's basically designed for displaying only one app at a time. On a phone that might make sense, but on anything larger it's just plain stupid (and even on a phone, I find it highly questionable).
 
9:15 PM
what about metro split?
do you think one-app-at-a-time is a bad concept in general?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yes. Utterly idiotic.
 
I can do that even without Metro, but I don't have to give up useful things like taskbar or system buttons
 
user784668
Dunno, I used to use a tiling WM in fullscreen mode, it wasn't that bad.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Mediocre at best. We've known how to do overlapping windows for decades now. If I want them tiled, I can do that too. Forcing me into that just because Apple was too lazy to build it into the original iPhone is just stupid.
 
I disagree.
well, a matter of opinions
 
user784668
9:18 PM
@BartekBanachewicz You're still younger than him and therefore wronger.
 
Metro apps are somehow less convenient to use than fullscreen desktop apps
Well, maximized
Maybe if they do that Metro-inside-real-window thing
 
it actually took me like 3 minutes to find out how to exit the full screen apps
 
Internet said it might be in Win9
That could make the entire thing usable
Pointless, but usable
 
user784668
> Win
 
user784668
> usable
 
9:21 PM
apparently you have to go from the top and click and drag to the bottom
 
user784668
Linux y u no good filesystem with raid n stuff
 
s/filesystem with raid n stuff//
 
user784668
block pointer rewrite
 
what's wrong with mdadm w/ ext4?
honest question
 
user784668
9:28 PM
mdadm with XFS is what I have right now.
 
@Rapptz Thank you for making me discover this fantastic site.
I shall share that with all my coworkers.
 
LVM is the default setup these days
 
user784668
Is it?
 
> Tom Testicool
Dat name.
 
9:33 PM
:)
 
user784668
Does ZFS fragment the hell out of virtual machine disk images like btrfs?
 
user784668
Yes.
 
yay, replaced the ugly 15-font-colors system with a much nicer JSON thingy where the user can define more than 15 colors MOD-wide (and once I turn identifiers to something other than char, the # of colors definable will be... unlimited I guess)
this shit is so fun
 
right.
 
why hello friends
 
9:39 PM
I should just apply for these jobs.
 
you should
 
LTO requires 2.5GB for this code.
During final linking stage.
 
user784668
So basically ZFS is older btrfs without block pointer rewrite and even more experimental on Linux.
 
@StackedCrooked That's p low
I think ZFS is stabler on Linux than btrfs :v
 
@CatPlusPlus ~30k loc project
Not huge.
 
user784668
9:42 PM
@StackedCrooked GCC version?
 
@StackedCrooked That doesn't really mean anything
 
@Fanael Apple LLVM version 5.1
 
user784668
@StackedCrooked lol Apple
 
what version of Clang is that?
 
@StackedCrooked That's Clang
 
user784668
9:43 PM
They're pretty much controlling LLVM and still don't follow upstream version numbers.
 
@CatPlusPlus lol I know that
 
Quick QQ: If I'm working with a pointer to a buffer, something like const utiny *pelbuf and I pass that off to another function cast as a struct pointer like (cmyk_array*)pelbuf where cmyk_array is a four byte field structure, do the contents of the buffer get separated into 4 byte chunks, is that right?
 
So there's an Asperger guy posting comments on one of my facebook posts, therefore I troll him. I hadn't had fun like that in a loooong time. I'm odious.
 
@Fanael They don't control LLVM. But they do ignore the upstream version numbers.
 
(Not mocking him, just laying logical fallacies that he can't help but pointing out and correcting with meticulous detail)
 
user784668
9:46 PM
@Puppy Aren't they employing some of the most active contributors or something?
 
@Fanael Yes, some. But Apple are <50% of LLVM devs now. They don't own the project. They contribute a large amount, yes. But so does Google.
 
user784668
TIL.
 
Sup.
I didn't do anything today.
 
congratulations
I also didn't do much of use for some reason.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Sup. I got my tickets done and am running dry.
 
9:54 PM
What tickets?
Spiel?
 
Xeo
At work
 
Oh. That.
I'm on vacation.
 
Xeo
There was no Star Wars today though :(
@R.MartinhoFernandes I see
 
I wanted to visit some museums and then to have some people over to play some games, but I fucked up both plans.
 
Xeo
Slept all day?
 
9:57 PM
First by sleeping too much, second by forgetting to tell said people where I live.
 
Xeo
...
 
user784668
@R.MartinhoFernandes In Europe.
 
Xeo
Apropos sleep, though. I should get some
 
It's still today.
 
Xeo
just barely
g'night
 
9:59 PM
Have fun.
 
I'm factoring out ABI-dependence in Wide.
go me!
 

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