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1:01 PM
right
 
quality advice
 
so what I need to do now is build a website, even if it's a shitty one (I don't advertise myself as a web designer) for Wide that I can link to, and also buy a webcam that actually fits on my fucking screen so I can look into that video mentoring shit.
 
you, video mentoring?
 
You don't have to pin the camera to the screen
 
@Rapptz what the actual fuck did they commit here? github.com/jeaye/stdman/commit/…
 
1:05 PM
Removal of nbsp probably?
 
Yeah. As in... wtf
 man/operator&,|,^(std::bitset).3                                |  10 +--
 man/operator+(std::reverse_iterator).3                          |  10 +--
 man/operator+,operator-(std::time_point).3                      |   8 +--
 man/operator<,<=,>,>=(std::move_iterator).3                     |   2 +-
 man/operator<,<=,>,>=(std::reverse_iterator).3                  |   2 +-
 man/operator<<(std::basic_ostream).3                            |  14 ++--
 man/operator<<,>>(std::basic_string).3                          |  14 ++--
 
Probably broke man, because it's man
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit liking a post is infinitesmall compared to a discussion I'd undoubtfully got in here.
 
Dem filenames o.O
 
Infinitesimal is the word
 
1:07 PM
If nbsp is nasty, then surely operator>>,<<` is a very nasty filename...
 
@ParkYoung-Bae I found a new funny site for that
 
It's man, the filename must match the query
Who on earth would want to type that is another matter
 
@Puppy I have a 720p cheapest Logitech thing and I'm rather happy with that. Cost me around $30.
this one.
I stopped using a separate microphone thanks to it too. very convenient.
 
I have that one
well, it has blue trim on it but otherwise identical
 
yeah they have a few similar models
 
1:10 PM
@BartekBanachewicz loool "infinitesmall"
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol nice
@LightnessRacesinOrbit derp
I wanted a better one with stereo mics, but it was a lot more expensive
so it actually made more sense to buy the highest model, which was even more expensive -.-
also I've officially started my summer holidays today
 
@BartekBanachewicz What kind- screen-attach or standalone?
looks like it should be attach-to-screen
 
user1804599
Clojure is so awesome.
 
@Puppy it rests on the screen but isn't very tightly clamped or anything
it's rather well designed though
 
@BartekBanachewicz I have the same!
 
1:14 PM
the trouble I had with the other one is that the thing only went up to a 90 degree angle.
and my screens have like, a 130 degree angle or so on top.
 
user1804599
@ParkYoung-Bae Now you can have hot webcam sessions together.
 
@Puppy like, you tilt them away?
@rightfold we already had
 
user1804599
lewd
 
I had no problems putting it the way I like anyway, at least for talking
I remember it was abit tricky to get it down for playing guitar
 
@BartekBanachewicz No, they have a thing sticking out the back, so the top surface which is flat is only about 1cm long. The other is angled out and down.
 
1:17 PM
@Puppy that really doesn't matter. The clamp is a bit weird, but should hold on that
 
 
Ell
I just use blue tack to hold my webcam on
It works a treat
 
the other webcam would only open to 90 degrees, so it wouldn't fit on
 
@BartekBanachewicz you get.. "summer holidays"? I thought you were a proper working person rather than a student who does fuck all?
 
but on reflection, maybe you're just not supposed to open the clamp thing, and maybe it's not actually supposed to clamp at all.
 
Ell
1:20 PM
Hey, students don't do fuck all!
Some students don't :p
 
user1804599
@Puppy hipster wallpaper
 
what wallpaper
there is no wallpaper in this room
 
the wallpaper on the monitor, tart
 
@Puppy yeah should be ok
 
1:23 PM
well I found it for £17 on Amazon
that should be ok
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit this means I don't have to go to my university for the next 3 months. How do you call it if not summer holidays?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit he's a intern who studies at a university
 
user1804599
@Puppy the picture itself is a wallpaper.
 
thanks to this amazing cross-compiler I now have 10x bigger binary for whatever reason
 
user1804599
1:25 PM
> sex: lewd.some('male', 'female').optional(),
 
oh, you mean, the picture on my other screen
 
764MB binary sounds so fun.
 
the colours are very odd in the photo
it's a bit beyond the intended viewing angles of the screen
 
@Puppy meh non-IPS
 
moneys
besides, frankly, these have more than sufficient viewing angles.
 
1:26 PM
LG has IPS screens dirt cheap
 
I have dirt income.
 
correction: you have no income
:P
have you applied for this videomentoring thing already?
 
nah, I have evil slacker shirker government money
but it doesn't go very far
@BartekBanachewicz I have Google Helpouts, but not the one you linked to.
 
@Puppy lol haven't heard about that one
"$1.41" per minute lol
 
lol
hmm
the jobseeker people want me to justify what I did every day this week, instead of for the week in general.
that's new.
 
1:32 PM
@Puppy huh?
 
@Puppy wait what
 
Microsoft Virtual Academy
P.S. We also have a competition running at the moment, if you complete an MVA course and send a screenshot of the course completion page to ausdevs@microsoft.com, you could score yourself 2 movie tickets*.
 
well, the form has a list of the days of the week, and wants me to say what I did to find work for each of them.
including the weekend.
 
@BartekBanachewicz being lazy
don't mind me I'm just jealous
 
jealous of what?
 
1:33 PM
@Puppy Good.
 
then there is · C# Fundamentals for Absolute Beginners
 
this sudden spur of happiness?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Having "summer holidays". In the real world we work all year around.
 
I also work all year around.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Then it's not a holiday...
 
1:34 PM
@Puppy Oh, I though a head hunter asked it.
 
Ironically, I'll probably work way harder
BUT not for my shitty uni.
 
Okay that makes sense
 
aye. As does getting paid properly :)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Not saying that it's bad, it's just that the last time I was there, they only asked me what I'd done in the week, rather than attributing each activitity to an invididual day.
guess I shoulda paid more attention.
 
@Puppy Anyone who is being funded by the state but cannot demonstrate that they are putting daily effort into making it so that they fund themselves should be sent to the Tower and left there.
@Puppy They changed the rules recently; it was in the press
 
1:35 PM
@Puppy Tuesday: Beat the boss with an Engi ship
 
lol
 
(Not 100% sure that this particular change is what you're seeing, mind you)
 
ITT part of Tomalak's tax goes to puppy
 
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@chmod711telkitty ITT and in reality
I pay more tax per month than most people I know bother to earn
Very few actually give a fuck. Puppy seems to, which is why we love Puppy.
 
I sometimes wonder what are you doing with all that money
 
1:39 PM
Me too :(
 
Mortgage and bills and alcohol adds up though
 
pff, come on
 
Plus I have debts
 
debts suck, I empathise
 
1:40 PM
I know your bills and rent are like 5x of mine
but still
 
I still have half a million dollar debt too
 
I have £0 rent
 
you've bought that flat?
 
I bought a house
 
house
 
1:41 PM
I wasn't really following that that close
 
The mortgage is actually cheaper per month than the rent I was paying on my one bedroom flat
 
Well then, that solves a part of the mystery
 
@chmod711telkitty on facebook vOv
 
1:41 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit not suprised
 
what happens to the estates of deceased people with no relatives?
I assume that the Exchequer gets it?
 
@Puppy they can still leave their will
 
how many deceased people with no relatives do you know of
 
@Puppy Good question; suppose so
@chmod711telkitty Quite a few. And if they have nobody to leave their shit to...
 
1:42 PM
Ironically my GF also still owns her parents' house
but she doesn't want to go back to her hometown ever so.
 
@BartekBanachewicz It kinda feels like rent for the first few years, though, because the interest means my monthly payments barely make a dent in the total repayment value outstanding
I'd overpay monthly if I didn't have these debts to get rid of
 
house or town house ... that property looks huge
 
wtf is a "town house"
Should be done with my student loan this year or next, though \o/
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit bah, you're still owning the damn thing. That changes a lot.
 
@BartekBanachewicz It'll make a big difference when I hit 65, yes
 
1:44 PM
A townhouse, or town house, as used in North America, Asia, Australia, South Africa and parts of Europe, is a type of medium-density housing in cities, usually but not necessarily terraced (row housing) or semi-detached. A modern town house is often one with a small footprint on multiple floors. The term originally referred in British usage to the city residence of a member of the nobility, as opposed to their country seat. Background Historically, a town house was the city residence of a noble or wealthy family, who would own one or more country houses in which they lived for much of ...
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ha! at least I didn't need that. I've sustained myself since the first year of my study
@LightnessRacesinOrbit not only... You're, for example, free to redecorate, change, repaint and do whatever you want with it.
 
that's my office on the top floor with the blinding lights. glad I got blinds in finally ;p
 
whereas it's way more limited if you're renting a flat, obviously
 
you're also free to pay for it.
 
@BartekBanachewicz yep I can waste as much money as I like, and when things break I have the freedom to pay to get them fixed!
 
1:45 PM
whereas when you rent a flat, your landlord's free to pay for it.
 
At least we have an unlimited-time contract for now
 
I definitely feel that the financial benefits of owning a place outweigh those of renting in the longer term but there's no question that at some particular times, especially the beginning, it can be more expensive
 
I hope we'll be able to stay in our next place for more than a year
 
@chmod711telkitty ok well I wouldn't call mine a townhouse
@Puppy yeah I've already spent quite a bit on it tbh
 
1:46 PM
I am kind of afraid of the winter though
it has awfully high celilings
 
I do need to reduce my outgoings and/or win the lottery
and/or get a much better job
[informal] phone interview on weds
 
I'm having the 2nd interview on Tuesday
Cash negotiations -.-
 
user1804599
Winter is fun.
 
I've never been good at those
 
1:47 PM
@rightfold yeah, but not if you have an old apartment with palace-high ceilings to heat up
 
oh yeah that reminds me.. need to get the gas boiler replaced -.-
 
you better. Those things can get pretty dangerous if unmaintained/old
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I can scarcely tell them that
 
and i'm gonna hire a cleaner soon
 
@BartekBanachewicz well, it doesn't work. it's not "dangerous" because it refuses to startup due to thinking there's a gas leak (there isn't)
 
1:50 PM
I mowed my own lawn & I am a woman & you need to hire a cleaner
 
it would help if the jeweller would hurry up and sell my £7k diamond ring for me
 
@chmod711telkitty hehe so much butthurt and envy in those three small dots
@chmod711telkitty ahaha even more than I thought
 
@chmod711telkitty I mow my own lawn
@BartekBanachewicz loooool
I just don't have enough time to dust and clean and shit and troll in the Lounge on a daily basis
 
hire puppy rofl ... just joking :p
 
sounds like a medieval apprenticeship
 
1:53 PM
@chmod711telkitty hah
@chmod711telkitty don't see what being a woman has to do with it anyway. as a woman i just cba
 
@sehe lol
 
although, in general, the ruling seems reasonable, other than some issues with no time constraints and the gag order (which seems entirely indefensible)
there's also some circular logic in the notion that it's okay to spy on people "because they've committed a crime", in order to prove that they've committed a crim
 
user1804599
2:18 PM
TIL rel="prefetch".
 
user1804599
That's pretty cool.
 
fuck my knee hurts
:/
 
user1804599
OWNED
 
I cut it yesterday when we were playing basketball
dumb sand
and dumb slippery shoes
 
user1804599
emo
 
2:34 PM
What a lousy day.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes any day you get lice is a lousy day
 
Well, it's a shitty day because tomorrow will be a shitty day and I'm teeming with anticipation, I guess.
 
tomorrow's gonna be nice
no studying
if I failed, I'll retake in september
but for now, I'm going to drink and have fun
I haven't had a single beer during this shitty-ass week
 
user1804599
I smell Earth.
 
user1804599
It's raining.
 
user1804599
2:40 PM
I like rain.
 
I like wind.
 
I've had way too much alcohol this week, in particular yesterday.
 
user1804599
I'm going to cycle home through the rain. Banzai!
 
I'll stay at work for a while more
and then yes home sweet home
 
user1804599
I took a week off.
 
user1804599
2:42 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes R. Bender Bending Rodríguez
 
And for fuck's sake, it seems July will have no weekend without cloudy or rainy weather.
I have two expeditions planned waiting for suitable weather :<
I had forgotten how much I like Black Holes and Revelations. At least my ears are happy.
 
Ell
It is good
 
hmpf
apparently github doesn't count commits to forks as activity
for whatever reason
 
2:58 PM
Anyone did charts with NVD3/D3?
Stacked area does weird things with my X values
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz file bug
 
@rightfold where do i do that
 
> There is a fault disruption.
> You might find that you're not able to watch The only way is Essex on your Virgin Media TV Catch Up, On Demand or TV Choice service at the moment.
> Fault reference: F003153532
OH NO
 
> fault distruption
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz gmail.com
 
3:03 PM
Mmm. Let me just get this straight, did you just reject my answer because it doesn't solve a different error that you hadn't told anyone about? In fact you haven't even mentioned that you are using external libraries (Boost Application) with this. This deserves a new question, with a link to the download location and a sscce.orgsehe 8 secs ago
 
Ell
election vs erection
 
user1804599
Most beautiful avatar ever: gravatar.com/avatar/…
 
3:23 PM
back from WGP
now I can slack get back to jobhunting
 
@rightfold got
@Puppy slacking will do you no good in the long run vOv
 
@MartinJames Fed bailey yet?
 
@Puppy About 10 minutes ago. The rattle of food falling into his bowl made him slink off the bed where he had lain since this morning. Lazy woofie:(
 
Is it normal for a cat to lay on his back while sleeping?
 
lol
all woofies are tremendously lazy
 
3:30 PM
@Puppy Yah - just like software engineers. I didn't get up till 1100 :)
 
Ell
Core blimey I'm sunburnt
who'd have thought I'd be sunburnt from cycling in the peak district in a drizzle :P
 
@Ell Me.
@MartinJames You lazy shitface. I was up and slacking by about 8:30.
my fucking woofie woofed me awake.
 
@Puppy lol I did wake up at 0730, but it was either go back to sleep or jurassic-app maintenance. So, back to bed then.
 
user3010322
I'm violently ill
 
user3010322
and my mouth feels like it's been hit like a truck
 
user3010322
3:39 PM
But it's my first internship week
 
user3010322
I can't back down
 
gotta be pretty violent to be throwing up your teeth, jawbones, parts of your skull, etc.
and you totally can and should back down.
 
Wait, is the haskell symbol a >>= together with a lambda?
3
 
I'm gonna go feed Daisy
 
Hi all.
 
3:47 PM
Hello
 
For those who remember him, @potatoswatter says hello as well:
Howdy! I +1'd you. Say hi in Chat for me; my ISP has been having border gateway protocol issues (or something) and chat is unreachable from here :( . I wonder, has Mark Garcia been around? He might be on the same ISP.
 
lol "for those who remember him"
it was only 38 days ago
I like how his penultimate message was the following:
May 20 at 13:38, by Potatoswatter
Yeah, nigger is totally cool nowadays. Try it as soon as you get inside the US… while you're going through airport security.
Then a comment about the TSA and he was gone..........
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey Yes.
 
user1804599
4:02 PM
Woo.
 
user1804599
Week off.
 
puppy's gonna have a fuckin' pizza
 
nice when you can fuck your pizza and eat it too
2
 
lol
 
Xeo
@Puppy Whee
 
4:06 PM
What's up lougeys?
loungeys even, now with NaN% more N
 
4:31 PM
god I'd forgotten how tasty this stuff is
 
what kind of pizza?
 
@OmnipotentEntity What kind of pizza isn't good?
 
user1804599
Pizza C++.
 
Would you guys buy this guys ebook?
http://www.cprogramming.com/c++11/c++11-ranged-for-loop.html
 
user1804599
@Chimera Is it on tinyurl.com/so-cxxbooks?
 
4:33 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit how do you "fuck" pizza?
 
@Chimera, there's this pizza place nearby that serves pizza made from ghost peppers. Damn hot, but it tastes awful.
 
user1804599
If no, then no. If yes, then maybe.
 
You definitely don't want to fuck that pizza.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Granted, not a matter of years or anything, but there may be a few around who don't really know him either.
 
@OmnipotentEntity ghost peppers.. omg...
 
4:34 PM
You also literally have to sign a waiver before ordering it
I still have 6 slices of it in my fridge.
 
@rightfold No it isn't.. is that kept up to date?
 
user1804599
Yes.
 
@OmnipotentEntity Yikes... can the peppers be physically harmful?
 
user1804599
Peppers Considered Harmful
 
The waiter told us that someone fainted or had a seizure or something one time, I wasn't really paying attention because I figured it might be bullshit.
I think the waiver is more advertising than a formality, but eating that pizza is super difficult and it definitely causes problems when it's in you.
 
4:38 PM
@Chimera No std::? Don't buy.
 
Opening 37 festivals toilets... Riiiiight...
 
@Camilo Martin: He's probably dead by now. Nobody insults Ź̼̺͓̘ͥ̓ͯå̦̗̝̜̗̫̿͝l̻̻͐̐ͣĝ̜ͤͦͧͯo̜͉͇̗̻̿̈́̐͛ ͍͖̮̘̖̓͑̓ͧ̀ä̶̻͇̯̙́͗̇ͦ̃ͅͅͅn̘̩͔̱͖̂̕d̉͛̍̃̎ͮ͊ g̹̪̺̣̰͔̳ͤ͐e̷̥͙͕̳̣͔̪̓̈́ͮ͑͛̓͂͜ṫ̲͔̪̪̮̠͈̘̟ͪ̂̕s̷̥̤̖̱͔̬̻͎̱͆͂̀͠ ͔͇̫̜͈̖͉͌̊̈́͋ͧ͟a̧̯͕̺͔̼ͨͪ͗̍͜ẅ̢̓̀ͨͫ҉҉̤͙̝̝̗̥ͅą̢̺͗͒ͥ̈͒͛̊̊̔ẏ̷̛͓͓͍͖̓́̔ͯͯ̃ͩ͠ w̨̱͚̻͉̩̮̜̯̭̤̗̝̱̻̖ͧ̉̑ͤ͐̈́ͩ̆͊͒͒̐̑̄̒ͫ̍͝͡iͣ̏͊ͥ͌ͪ͋͏̷̢̫̹͈̦̯̲̖͞t̷̜̖̲̟̘ͫͣ̋̔ͤͨͪ͡hͬͣ̌͂͗̃ͨ̔͒‌​̄͋̆ͫ̇҉̤̥̤̹͚̲̗̬̪͔̖ͅ ̵ͤ̂ͩ̃ͧ͑͛̔̒͒ͯ́̚͞҉̭̭̦̜̮̤̙̥̻̺͎̟iͬ͌̾̍̔ͪ̌ͤ̾ͪ̆̃̌͑͒͏̷͝҉͇̖̝̪̮̫̖͔̯͍͞ẗ̶̛͖͙̭̳̣̬̫̘͇̝͇́̅͊̌ͅ.̿‌​̶̵̜̳͔̲̺̫̝͖̹̦̹̦̼̯̮̺͉̓ͯͤ̓̉ͭ̏͗͘͘͘ — BoltClock ♦ 3 hours ago
 
btw Lightness, gonna spend some of your tax money playing FTL now, hope you don't mind :P
 
@Puppy Ah didn't notice that.. good point.
 
4:52 PM
it's been a while since programmed in C++. The industry started writing code with C++11?
 
user1804599
They still write Java.
 
Xeo
We use C++11.
 
the industry started four or five years ago.
 
Xeo
We started a month ago or so because of old dependencies.
:(
 
5 years? isn't that too much? 5 years back Boost was a hype.
 
user1804599
4:53 PM
We use PHP 5.5 :D
 
are you shitting me?
5 years back Boost was the shit.
now it's less useful because C++11 introduced all the best bits as Standard.
 
yeah even C++ 11 was being developed and it was hell lot of slow being adapted to compilers.
@Puppy true
 
if by that you mean "Compilers started implementing it years before it came out", then yes.
even Microsoft had C++11 features in VS2010
and G++ started at about 4.4 or so if I recall
 
yeah, but incomplete. Our clients were a bi wary about it. Asked not to use it.
G++ was too fast.
 
you've just totally redefined the question.
your clients are not the whole industry.
 
4:56 PM
I was giving an example.
 
besides
using incomplete support still counts as starting.
 
not redefining it. read it along with incomplete spec, incomplete compiler implementations
 
what I'm reading is that your question is far too vague to possibly have any concrete answer.
 
so my question was such kind of skepticisms still exist?
 
someone in the industry wrote a couple tests for the C++11 support in VS2010 and G++ 4.4.
@sarat Some people are skeptical of anything.
it's a totally different question to what you actually said.
 
4:59 PM
I was asking about the adoption. Even when many of the compilers introduced it, I could see hell lot of questions about C++11 in C++.lang forums.
 
how the fuck am I, or anyone else, supposed to know what hundreds of thousands of other programmers are doing, in aggregate?
 
@sarat We still haven't started, largely because of old dependencies but also because of stable build servers and stable codebases and stable library distributables that nobody wants to touch because we're in "support mode" for all but one of our products.
 
half of them wouldn't even tell me if I asked.
 

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