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10:00 PM
it sounded like C/C++ bashing, from two friends interviewing each other and who also happen to promote a different programming language
 
@ScarletAmaranth Must have made a deep impression on him
 
> Somewhat surprisingly to me, I haven't seen any signs of modern C++ programming practice reducing its reliance on textual macro preprocessing. Boost, for example, makes very heavy use of macro preprocessing, which is why I used Boost as both a validation tool and as a performance checking tool.
I'm sure Walter knows why.
He can't be this dumb
 
@AndyProwl yup, Mark was about to sit down and Andrei was like: "can I push your stool?" "sure... NOT THAT!!!!"
 
mark.push_back(...)
shit my taskbar stopped autohiding
 
is compile time reflection with magic a bad idea?
 
10:02 PM
I hate it when it happens
 
@AndyProwl story of my life
 
now I have to reboot
or live with it
 
like std::class_name<T>::value where T is my_struct would expand to "my_struct"
it'd be cool
 
@AndyProwl " ze mi pise chybu, ze nevie dopredu zistit, akeho typu je b, ale INTELLISENSE to vie :D prekladacu to nepovie, lebo sa predvcerom strasne pohadali "
@AndyProwl that's funny :)
 
though tbh I'm not sure what you'd do with a class name but it's just an example
 
10:04 PM
@Rapptz It does make sense to me
Seems to me it's in the spirit of the TR2 reflection support
 
@Sbi has been having trouble with the kids
 
I think I'm gonna fuck the internets and
 
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Q: How to represent the temperature in a room in opengl

user3072202I want a graphic representation of heat transfer in a room. I have 3 vectors in which I have stored the coordinates in space for my 3D points and a vector in which I have the temperature for the corresponding points. Something like this: X=[5 0 0 0 0 5 10 10 10 10.....] Y=[10 10 5 5 10 10 5 10 ...

 
we could support cool things like that enum thing from 2 days ago
string s = Enum.GetName(typeof(Days), 4);
Console.WriteLine(s);

Console.WriteLine("The values of the Days Enum are:");
foreach (int i in Enum.GetValues(typeof(Days)))
    Console.WriteLine(i);

Console.WriteLine("The names of the Days Enum are:");
foreach (string str in Enum.GetNames(typeof(Days)))
    Console.WriteLine(str);
std::enum_name<T, 4>::value etc
 
> In effort to recurrently and orthogonally apply typedef<T>... in wherever item that typedef<T>... returns, in this document, we reach a point to dig a bit down in some aspects that may be a postponed or ripped off, like introspecting functions,constructors, templates and namespaces, but anyway it's better bring these ideas to appreciation and critique then just skipped and hidden because they are too problematic.
The more I read on, the funnier it gets
If I'll ever be afraid of writing a proposal because it might sound bad or silly, I'll think about this and boost my self-confidence
> Encoding should be utf-8, but remember: utf-8 != ASCII
 
10:11 PM
:D :D :D
"we don't need no AST control" :D
 
If I have a std::vector<std::string> v(n) of preallocated size, (e.g. n = 4 elements) and I access it with threads, but ensure that each thread only ever accesses the same element (thread 2 only accesses v[1]), would I run into any problems?
 
I asked someone what character set they supported in their protocol once and they said latin non-utf8
 
> one important is that parameter value of this kind of template must have extern linkage compiler magic string is the technical proper name of it, so the names of types and member must be that way
stop reading stop reading stop reading
this reads like a spam email
 
Adrian, test it out in production and see :D
 
@ScarletAmaranth "we don't need no education"...
Title of paragraph 4.2: "More Code"
 
10:15 PM
@AndyProwl ale že sa nehambia to zverejniť ^^
 
Moar Codez
@ScarletAmaranth No prave
Ale este horsie je, ze ten organizator si mysli, ze je to "dobre napisany clanok"
Was he high or what
Nie prepac, "velmi dobre"
 
o_O coze?
 
JuJoDi, it's not an immediate red flag though, is it? :)
 
hej
pozri
^ tam
ah, "very good and detailed paper", it doesn't say "well-written"
anyway... that's not even a paper
 
facepalm
I don't know why I am laughing, I think I should be crying instead
 
10:19 PM
The next Tesla obviously:
-2
Q: Advantages for trinary computing over binary

calebhk98I know there are advantages and i found a way a computer could have it to the base between 200 and 2000 and possibly more with better hardware but before I tried it I wanted to know how would it be better? Would it have more memory or better processing or less likelihood of crashing or what? I am...

 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Ah that reads like N3951
> i am still going to try it even if it requires more energy or what every you nonbelievers wish to say
Live the dream
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I am so glad I managed to get my close vote in on that
(feels as though I've made this world a better place)
 
Dream on, don't let the man oppress you! Fight the system and live the dream! — Benjamin Gruenbaum 5 secs ago
 
with computers that are based on base "between 200 and 2000"
 
lol
let's try base 1999
 
10:22 PM
you mean base 10?
or base 10?
maybe we could also try base 10
 
more like, base 10
 
aah, you might be onto something here
but what if we tried base 10?
 
you could construct a computer from an arbitrary integer base >1
but the way I see it, 2 is easiest to map to hardware implementations and the rules for binary operations are easiest understood.
 
omg, thanks puppy! I thought 2 is magical o_O
 
I hereby propose base 1999
 
10:24 PM
is that base 10?
 
No. It's base 10
 
Lounge<Base10>
 
user3010322
Lounge<Base10>: As if getting her to 2 wasn't tough enough!
4
 
does anyone here know how to implement an hyperoctree?
or where to find information about it?
 
hyperoctree?
 
10:27 PM
n dimensional octree
binary tree in 1d, quadtree in 2d, octree in 3d, .... in 20 d?
 
that's not an "oct"tree then, is it?
 
I have no idea what that is. A quick Google search pointed me to the introductory article "Construction of d-Dimensional Hyperoctrees on a Hypercube Multiprocessor". Thank you Google
 
@AndyProwl good thing I ordered a Hypercube Multiprocessor yesterday
 
i didnt call these hyperoctrees
 
@ScarletAmaranth Let me know how it works, I was considering it too
 
10:28 PM
but that is the name i found for the n-dimensional generalization of a quadtree
@AndyProwl that paper didn't really tell me anything useful
 
@gnzlbg Yeah that was kind of sarcasm
 
it's a paper that has "hypercube multiprocessor" in the title...
 
If it's about graphics, perhaps Bartek may know
 
11:30 pm, im really tired, sorry
@BartekBanachewicz ping!
 
@gnzlbg I very much understand
 
10:30 PM
:)
 
how tired does one have to be to take "hypercube multiprocessor" seriously :)?
 
i read half of that paper before
it seems they talk about hypercube communication topologies in HPC
 
after reading half of that paper I'd be tired too
 
but i didnt got what that has to do with hyperoctree
 
in fact I don't think I would manage
 
10:32 PM
or what exact problem were they trying to solve
 
my brain would explode half way through the abstract
 
or why should i care
so i stopped reading
since it didn't have anything to do with hyperoctrees at all
:/
 
@gnzlbg It's usually called a kd tree.
 
but there you can have anisotropic nodes
right?
like octrees are isotropically refined, and typically balanced
the words that sound more familiar to me are quadtrees and octrees, in higher dimensions i only found hyperoctree but google didnt helped much :/
yep, google also delivers results for hyperquadtrees
its worth a shot
 
@ThePhD I like it
 
user3010322
10:41 PM
:D
 
am I the only that thought of networking with Base10?
Ethernet over twisted pair technologies use twisted-pair cables for the physical layer of an Ethernet computer network. Other Ethernet cable standards employ coaxial cable or optical fiber. Early versions developed in the 1980s included StarLAN followed by 10BASE-T. By the 1990s, fast, inexpensive technologies began to emerge. Currently the most popular are 100BASE-TX (fast Ethernet; 100 Mbit/s) and 1000BASE-T (gigabit Ethernet; 1 Gbit/s). These standards all use 8P8C connectors. Meanwhile higher-speed implementations generally support lower-speed standards inclusively; thus it ...
 
anyhow, i dont even know what to google for
 
today I got an evaluation license for two code coverage tools and they both failed to build an instrumented version of Shit 2
That BullsEye thing seems to be the only reliable tool around
 
:/
 
who wrote the standard library?
 
10:47 PM
can't you check code coverage with clang?
 
the original?
Stepanov
 
no
he wrote the STL
with someone else
 
@gnzlbg I'm working on Windows
 
"the original"
 
the world doesn't remember the other guy
@AndyProwl im so sorry
 
10:48 PM
@gnzlbg It's ok. One day we'll have Clang too.
 
I love VS as an IDE but the C++ compiler is a joke : - /
also there seems to be a teeny tiny delay on each keypress in VS
(as opposed to JetBrains stuff or hell, even Netbeans)
 
I also love VS, but it may be just the fact that the only other things I ever used are Eclipse with MinGW and CB
Surely there are better things out there
 
well, the slight delay on writing is really bugging me when I switch from something else
 
turns out Stepanov working for Amazon.
 
yup, gives decent A9 talks
about efficient programming with components
where you can see that people at Amazon can't C++
 
10:52 PM
that guy must be a badass
how can people get to this degree of knowledge? wondering.
 
by being clever and studying hard I guess
having good mentors also helps
 
@AndyProwl i hope so
 
there's a lot of studying involved regardless of how clever you are
 
You have to be a supernerd
 
@ScarletAmaranth indeed
@Jermimbilal well, he is also very opinionated, sometimes without reason
 
10:55 PM
not really, some people find it easier to understand and learn, they don't have to make so much effort.
 
yes that's the "being clever" part
 
i dont know, maybe those points of his were valid some time ago, but certainly some of them arent valid anymore
 
well, you can't be an idiot :)
 
most stuff is not that complicated
 
user3010322
Woo!
 
10:56 PM
once you invest time into learning it
 
user3010322
I can even mess with the channels now!
 
user3010322
Awwww yisss.
 
but yeah as @AndyProwl says, having good mentors helps
and at bell labs he had them
if you start learning something at the right level, and have a mentor that guides your learning, you learn way faster
than just trying to go through something that is out of your reach because you lack some fundamental knowledge
 
that is correct.
 
SINGLETON ALERT
Why are you posting riddles? Firstly. Singletons are almost always a bad idea. Secondly: you show no code. We have to make stuff up. Sadly, we can't make up the problem: coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/cb8fdd92adec083csehe 25 secs ago
 
user1804599
11:03 PM
in Java Sucks, 8 hours ago, by rightfold
What happened to ?
 
user1804599
But apparently Feeds thought it was funny to be quiet only for a moment. :<
 
user3010322
@BartekBanachewicz I've made some decent progress so far so I'm going to take a break on the DSP.
 
user3010322
I still haven't figured out the magic necessary to make chorus/reverb. Or how to stop this infernal popping from the addition of the extra samples. x_X
 
user3010322
Maybe I need to impose tighter limits to avoid overflow.
 
11:12 PM
so mature
 
anyone recommends the book "Elements of Programming"?
 
the author, I presume
 
besides the author?
 
user1804599
int programming[10];
for (auto x : programming) std::cout << x << '\n';
// prints the elements of programming
 
@Jermimbilal 9 to 14 people on amazon it seems. Why do you want to know? Are you surprised about this?
@rightfold s/programming/programing/ then
 
user1804599
11:14 PM
wat
 
> I was really looking forward to reading this book. Now that I'm done proving nearly all the lemmas the reader is asked work out, I have to admit to reading it with gritted teeth and what is best described as nearly constant annoyance.
 
Aug 28 '13 at 7:17, by jalf
I know that much. :) But I've been told that people consider that to be generic programing too
 
hehehe
any recommended books?
 
user1804599
About what?
 
11:19 PM
the holy bible
 
About windmills full of corpses
 
i'm Muslim actually.
 
user1804599
@AndyProwl Well-Sorted Edition :v
 
about C++
 
11:19 PM
4289
Q: The Definitive C++ Book Guide and List

grepsedawkThis question attempts to collect the few pearls among the dozens of bad C++ books that are published every year. Unlike many other programming languages, which are often picked up on the go from tutorials found on the Internet, few are able to quickly pick up C++ without studying a well-written...

 
you know, when bad jokes really go wrong
 
That was hard to find. I know
 
user1804599
The Bible is not holy.
 
thanks.
the original bible is holy.
 
That's very original
 
user1804599
11:20 PM
If the Bible is holy, Spider-Man comics must be holy too.
 
I've even written it lowercase
 
@rightfold The original one is
@AndyProwl Holy Shit!
 
user1804599
@sehe Shit came out of my holy today.
 
the Aramaic bible is completely different than the ones we know
 
@sehe My next Lounge Jam game will be Holy Shit 3
 
11:21 PM
@Jermimbilal Tell us more :)
 
I've got problems with capitalization today
 
(hint: I know)
 
i'm not christian.
 
user1804599
Me neither.
 
(hint: me neither; well, not by any popular definition, I guess)
 
11:22 PM
technically I'm afraid I am
 
user1804599
I’m pastafarian.
 
like, there was this ceremony and stuff
water, then bread
but I don't consider myself belonging to any religious group
 
user1804599
And my prophet is the cock of Will Smith.
 
i believe christianity is the main reason of having atheism in western societies
 
@rightfold Does he appear often to you?
 
user1804599
11:24 PM
@AndyProwl No. And I like to keep it that way.
 
Understandable
 
user1804599
If I were to join a religion it would probably be Buddhism or Judaism.
 
If I were to join a religion assert(false)
 
as far as i can tell, Islam is more reasonable religion to me.
 
user1804599
> as far as i can tell
 
11:26 PM
sorry for my bad english
 
religion exists because people don't want to die and need to find something that prolongs their life beyond this one
 
@Jermimbilal None of them are very reasonable.
 
^ that
 
user1804599
I want to die in a year or sixty.
 
What you see is that christianism has become so "reasonable" for many people that it's become unnecessary. I think that's just a by product of general health and welfare
 
user1804599
11:29 PM
And when I die they should just dump my body in a bin or in canal in Amsterdam or something.
 
user1804599
As long as they don’t spend too much time and money on it.
 
I think that it's going to be increasingly hard for religion to survive when it's simply no longer necessary to explain why the sun goes down at night.
and when science delivers increasing quality of life
 
@DeadMG That's only the explicative side. Don't forget the group-sociological side (which is, I think much more powerful): people want to organize in groups that can protect and help. They want to confirm that others will share their values so they have better chances of survival than individually
 
user1804599
Oh, did I say Judaism? Screw that.
 
I really think what keeps and is going to keep religion a thing is the promise of life after death
 
user1804599
11:33 PM
There is life after death.
 
user1804599
When I die, there are surely other creatures that still live.
 
The more you read on, the funnier it gets
My favorite passage is "[...] one important [issue] is that parameter value of this kind of template must have extern linkage 'compiler magic string' is the technical proper name of it, so the names of types and member must be that way;"
 
user1804599
@sehe We don’t need no new keywords.
 
Wow
 
user1804599
11:36 PM
YAY! THE PROPOSAL BANS new! :D
 
user1804599
ACCEPT NOW PL0X
 
Calm your tits
 
user1804599
Speaking of my tits.
 
user1804599
They should grow.
 
What about them
 
11:37 PM
Are you pregnant?
 
user1804599
I like only big tits.
 
Trust me, they do. After a certain age/weight
 
user1804599
Mine are extremely small.
 
That makes sense
 
user1804599
But I have nipples!
3
 
11:38 PM
Dat typography too. "Problem␣?" o.O
 
user1804599
Problem ?
 
You␣suck
 
> Basically we propose to gather everything from a type, not only members, but base classes, internal classes, typedefs enums and constant values, it appear to be a mess ( may be it is ), calling it brings everything in one shot and then, you pick what you need or by using typedef<T requires U>... explained above on item 2 or using something like Boost::MPL filter_view<s, pred> where pred is some type trait
 
So coherent. It's brillant
 
Are they calling their own proposal a "mess"?
Or am I reading it wrong?
 
11:41 PM
> ( may be it is )
At least their LateX is very much a mess
 
Could have added "yeah man then we could just use that stuff like template classes or similar things and it would work, no?"
I think Vlad would do much better
 
And worse at the same time
More realistic but also likely more evil
 
user1804599
Don’t change C++ anymore.
 
what are good board games to play?
 
user1804599
You can only fuck up.
 
user1804599
11:44 PM
@Rapptz Mensch ärgere dich nicht
 
Oh
In English that's called "Sorry!"
well, it looks like it anyway
or maybe Trouble.
 
user1804599
Pim-pam-pet is also fun, albeit not a board game.
 
user1804599
Also Monopoly.
 
user1804599
Scrabble.
 
user1804599
Chess.
 
11:49 PM
Monopoly is a terrible game
 
user1804599
Game of the Goose.
 
user1804599
Risk.
 
@Rapptz I knew that as 'frustration'
 
Monopoly takes too long
Same with Risk
 
user1804599
Stratego is also very fun.
 
user1804599
11:50 PM
And shouldn’t take too long.
 
Settlers is good :D
 
@rightfold Yeah I played it yesterday.
 
user1804599
Speaking of Stratego.
 
user1804599
I should play Stratego.
 
there's an online version
which is what I used
 
user1804599
11:51 PM
I have the board game.
 
user1804599
Cardboard and plastic. :3
 
user1804599
Mastermind is also fun.
 
Things to do before I graduate: Laser cut at least one board game.
 
user1804599
Use a high-quality 3D printer to print chess pieces.
 
user1804599
Chess with chrome-covered pieces and board would be cool.
 
user1804599
11:56 PM
Or silver.
 
are 3D printers still insanely expensive?
I guess they are
 
not really
they're starting to get to the <$800 range
 
that low?
 
there were kickstarters for cheap ~$50 printers too
 
wow
why don't I have a 3D printer?
 
11:57 PM
iunno
 
user1804599
Because you never bought one.
 
user1804599
Kinda obvious.
 
I knew I'd find the answer here
 
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