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4:00 AM
@MartinJames It also traps students into doing case <<N > 10>>: x = 10; indefinitely. lol
 
Chocolate hostages. I like it. It's giving me ideas for Christmas presents.
 
user1646075
@MartinJames lolz - put little figures together with lindt balls and toothpicks
 
I would need a chocolate terrorist as well.
 
user1646075
@MartinJames the toblerone bear?
 
..and the three chocolate wise cops bringing Uzis.
 
user1646075
4:04 AM
easter bunnies
 
user1646075
I CAN'T beliee I fuckthat that up again
 
user1646075
 
user1646075
with glocks.
 
@GuruAdrian That exists? I thought it was another dropbear.
 
user1646075
YAYYY! I can link!!
 
user1646075
4:07 AM
they are carniverous. will eat toes sticking out of tents
 
@GuruAdrian lol
 
user1646075
boring! knowing nsw police, all sorts of shit are going on but they're masters of the blank innocent look of "nothing happening here".
 
user1646075
they've probably sniped over a dozen perps already, and are about to bust through the walls with ballistic cord
 
user1646075
or whatever that explosive rope is called
 
@GuruAdrian Detcord.
 
user1646075
4:11 AM
yeah that
 
> This is the latest from James Robertson, our reporter in the CBD: A man who gave his name only as Bruno said he'd worked in the cafe for 6 months. "I was supposed to start at 10 am," he said while visibly shaken. That was about 15 minutes after the siege started and he was unable to get inside.
lol
If I understood that correctly.
 
user1646075
yup - he's been shown on tv. Given australia, i assumed he was just late for work as usual
 
An 5 hours 1 person siege at Lindt with thousand if not tens of thousands evacuated/barred from leaving ... Am I the only one find this hilarious?
 
user1646075
not if he suddenly goes boom.
 
@GuruAdrian So he did try to go in the cafe?
 
user1646075
4:15 AM
yup - he said that at 9:45 local time, he got to the door and found it was locked, and saw little inside, then i think he said a cop move him away
 
@chmod711telkitty That's the marvelous efficiency of terrorist attacks/scares.
@GuruAdrian lololololol!!!!
 
I think this is a hoax
 
user1646075
seems like that was within minutes of it all starting
 
Putting my bet on it ...
 
user1646075
@chmod711telkitty wouldn't think that if you saw the look on the window-womens faces before they started blanking the video. Then again, all shit like this is a vicious kind of hoax...
 
4:17 AM
@chmod711telkitty I hope the whole thing is not a hoax. I've already started planning the manufacture of chocolate hostages.
 
user1646075
@MartinJames i demand a cut for creative input
 
user1646075
i'll take a cut of the chocolate
 
@GuruAdrian We'll discuss it over a beer later;)
 
user1646075
"NSW Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione" pronounced "Skippy-oh-nee". I find his name funny because "Skippy" is english-as-a-2nd-language slang for white australians.
 
I remember someone named a magpie 'skippy' in one of those YouTube videos
 
user1646075
4:24 AM
 
Black & white English as the second language pie
Fantasise the terrorist coming out of Lindt in santa's clothes, yelling 'ho ho ho' & giving everyone a chocolate
 
user1646075
who's going nuts on the stars? switch them off!
 
@Mysticial ping
 
Fucking hatwhores. lol
 
user1646075
4:39 AM
oh thanks...... pure genius
 
user1646075
something intense seems to be going on. just evacuations? barrels pointing into a fire door, held by twitchy cops
 
@MarkGarcia There's two (secret) hats given out for voting on highly upvoted answers... um...
 
user1646075
oh, a guy with a waiters overalls scrambling the hell out of there
 
@Mysticial You're worried all those rep capped points go to waste? :P
 
lolno
 
4:45 AM
Seriously though, that is a weird choice of secret hat criteria.
 
9
A: Winter Bash 2014 Secret Hats

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇I've unlocked Chameleon - for joining a site for editing your profile, including linking a new site to your account Fascinating - for upvoting an accepted answer with 10 votes Fascinating, Ma'am - for upvoting a highly-voted question Eureka - I suspect for answering a meta post, possibly the...

 
user1646075
an old guy and another just bolted out another door
 
5:00 AM
 
@Rapptz To really hit the jackpot, fix the missing bracket and then get 1000 linker errors.
 
Boom, segfault!
 
this is a steam achievement
for Game Maker: Studio
 
5:33 AM
Has anybody here read C++ Primer Plus?
 
5:50 AM
Bad book.
 
user1646075
it gets a C+ only
 
I wanna be as good as this pigart guy on youtube at low poly art.
He's so good.
 
user1646075
two more workers have left the place
 
6:20 AM
in Mathematics on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 3 hours ago, by Behaviour
Comment template: "Welcome to Math.SE! You picked a bad time to dump your homework here: the users are trying to earn Imitation Crab and Red Shirt hats."
^^ Also applies to SO.
 
user1646075
yeah, the toblerone bear is my favourite. never noticed it for years. it just looked like a random snow-covered mountain
 
user1646075
Hello chat-star-clicker. Stop it. Thanks.
 
user1646075
@HamedBB You again? please stop this crap. Now unclick them again please.
 
@Mysticial Ye earned a pirate hat?
 
@Zeta Easy, I had 999 reviews in one of the review queues.
 
6:51 AM
Meh. The most I have is ~300 in suggested edits.
I'll guess I'll have to answer another CSS question.
btw, your avatar seems familiar. Inori from GC?
 
score
 
@GuruAdrian Actually I just realized that now. I didn't go through the article, just searched for the reference to "FedEx spoon".
 
user1646075
where did you get those words from then?
 
This is like walking into a police station and saying "I just got out of jail; which bank in town is the easiest to rob?" — Matthew Haugen 2 hours ago
 
6:56 AM
lol
 
7:14 AM
@GuruAdrian I star what I want, when I want. (but okay, I haven't starred anything recently).
 
user1646075
good morning/evening. Have you not heard of the hats? Apparently there's a hat if you can click 10 different people in a chatroom
 
user1646075
so i'm doing my damndest to dominate the room and prevent that being possible.
 
@GuruAdrian What are these hats of which you speak, my good man?
 
Winter bashing the hat lovers.
 
user1646075
not exactly sure myself, but some sort of xmas thingy from SO. Seems like maybe your own avatar gets a hat painted on it. or something
 
7:17 AM
@GuruAdrian What a strange idea. I've never heard of such a thing before.
 
user1646075
@Mysticial seems to know about it, but i can't be arsed finding out ;-)
 
user1646075
/hint hint
 
user1646075
oooh can I answer? I could do with a few more points.
 
Like the way of thinking of C buffer overrun bugs on stack arrays. "We should have increased its size!"
 
7:21 AM
@GuruAdrian Bigger hint: if you look through @Mysticial's conversations from years past about the Winter Bash, you may get some idea of who's been trolling you.
 
user1646075
trolling me? what's happening is that suddenly, a wild dickhead appears 10 messages get starred. it was the same guy twice.
 
@JerryCoffin wait, what?
 
@Mysticial You had perfectly fitting hats back then.
 
user1646075
but sure, why not, let's see what all the fuss is about.
 
7:23 AM
@MarkGarcia oh
 
@Mysticial Don't know if that's what Jerry pertains to though.
 
@Mysticial Just my roundabout way of admitting I'd been trolling the poor boy.
Not the starring though--just the part with acting ignorant of Winter Bash.
 
user1646075
oh right.
 
TIL I can see the list of my starred messages.
 
user1646075
that counts as a trolling now? small t maybe ;-)
 
7:27 AM
Hi there
 
@MarkGarcia I think the bow and the santa hat were the only ones that fit me perfectly last year.
Or actually, I was probably the only person who fit into the bow.
 
@GuruAdrian It get exactly the reaction it was designed to, so it was a successful troll in any case.
 
user1646075
TIL @Mysticial has an extra i in the name
 
user1646075
@JerryCoffin 2 out ot 10 for effort.
 
@GuruAdrian 'twas no effort at all. I dug a small hole, and you jumped in with gay abandon.
 
user1646075
7:28 AM
mehhh still couldn't be arsed reading about the hats
 
user1646075
asshats I say
 
user1646075
@JerryCoffin Weee!
 
We should have an announcement for Winterbash starrers containing a list of messages to start.
 
Good thing I can star my own messages!
 
@Rapptz wat?
 
7:29 AM
Pinning.
 
Oh. Have you tried Mysticial's star-removal trick?
 
user1646075
leave my star alone
 
@MarkGarcia Owners don't need tricks to remove stars.
 
user1646075
my pucker-star
 
user1646075
"in my day, a trolling was......"
 
7:33 AM
To those hat lovers who want this and especially this, star these instead.
42
 
user1646075
ooo a new news conference from deputy commissioner
 
Or something, I don't know.
 
user1646075
still bugger-all information about how many hostages, and who the perp is, and wtf they were thinking.
 
Woops
haskell.org down :c
 
Website has kell.
@Jefffrey Okay for me.
 
user1646075
7:43 AM
goddamned google login is still completely retarded and obsessed with your current login and not letting you use other accounts. 6 months after unleashing this crap it's still behaving this badly? sheeesh.
 
@MarkGarcia v0v
 
@Jefffrey That doesn't work for me, but the homepage does.
 
@Jefffrey Well, you can use hayoo during hoogle's downtime.
 
@MarkGarcia Neither seems to be working for me (though isup.me says it's working).
 
@Zeta I love you
 
8:25 AM
4
A: c++ convert a word with 4 character stored as char* to an int and vice versa

PhotonAssuming it will be converted back on a system with the same endianness number=*((int*)word); Convert back: char word2[5]; *((int*)word2) = number; word2[4]=0;

^^ Strict aliasing violation?
 
Some guy with a high rep thinks it is:
This is technically undefined behavior since it violates strict aliasing. — Mysticial 1 min ago
oh wait
 
That's me.
2
 
:)
 
I don't even know what strict aliasing is.
It's one of those things I want to know about, but just not to the level that I would care.
 
8:29 AM
@MarkGarcia A pain in the ass, basically
 
1
Q: c++ template inheritance: why "this->" is needed?

Robin HsuIn the following long list of codes, please look for three places: // "this->" can be omitted before first data[0] and // Compile error, if "this->" is omitted before first data[0] and // likewise, "this->" is required. I don't know why sometimes "this->" can be omitted, and sometime ...

C++ never fails to amaze me.
 
@Zeta Thanks. Currently reading this.
 
morning banana fritters
 
> Wait, how is this eerie. [...] this actually looks like a city that's beginning a new day. Hats off to them. [...] Looks pretty clean and the high rise condos look nice. Give them that. And take out that creepy music.
Poor YouTube commenter missed the point
 
8:33 AM
morning onion wrapper
 
@sehe isn't that the point of YT comments?
 
nope.
 
TIL
 
I'm afraid you didn't
 
Avast, ye scurvy dog bear!
 
user1804599
8:36 AM
Testing concurrent code is not fun.
 
don't test it's right, prove it's right
 
user1804599
I like Go.
 
@MarkGarcia ergh... mother fucking hats again
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so glad it's an opt in thing
 
user1804599
I like how psql completes vacuum ana to vacuum ANALYZE instead of vacuum analyze.
 
@rightføld Beware my friend for that doubtful jokes may arise ...
 
user1646075
8:48 AM
@Zeta Ugh. I should concentrate on that one day.
 
user1804599
@Rerito VACUUM ANAL
 
Precisely
 
user1646075
Don't tell Jefffrey
 
Why do you do all these calculations, when that's precisely what the library was made for? I don't get it. I've posted a much simpler answer. — sehe 18 secs ago
What am I missing
Whay did that answer already get accepted?
@rightføld Ana vacuums for you now? I thought that was your hobby
 
user1804599
???
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
@sehe Because OP
 
Come don't tll me you forgot about vacuuming on mumble
Who's Ana anyaways :)
 
user1804599
my girlfriend with vacuum fetish
 
user1804599
cryptic
 
we don't care when you eat
 
9:00 AM
I'm prolly just late finding XKCD
 
@sehe it's usually rather early it get's posted
 
user1804599
My query is too slow.
 
user1804599
It must be faster.
 
@sehe: xkcd got posted ~1h ago.
 
9:02 AM
@ParkYoung-Bae Shoulders. Knees and toes, knees and toes.
 
I admit defeat
 
Give or take 40 minutes.
 
Why
 
@Zeta and reposted about ten times since I'm sure.
 
@thecoshman vOv
 
9:03 AM
@sehe That's very deep for a Monday morning
 
@thecoshman You should know
 
How's everyone
 
@sehe ... I want to see feeds stop posting XKCD
 
Meh, I'm never sure how to read vOv. I often read it as "shrug" like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, but sometimes I think it's a cat rolling on its back, singing "Der Hölle Rache".
 
@ParkYoung-Bae good, your self?
 
9:05 AM
@thecoshman Quite good. Awful weather. Feels great to be inside!
 
@ParkYoung-Bae indeedly
its bitchingly cold
 
Hmm
 
Thick fog around here
 
user1646075
Ha-ha "TEN news has received a video in which a #lindtcafe hostage relays the gunman's demands. At police request we will not broadcast it." This ain't Gotham City, old bean.
 
Xeo
gaaaah, stupid weather
stupid rain
 
9:09 AM
@Xeo Do you have that feeling that rain is in sync with your outdoor comings and goings ?
 
user1804599
1
Q: Is there a vec[].substr() function?

DerrickI am trying to get use vector[].substr() but i don't know if this is possible. Does anyone know another way to do this? My goal is to take a word that is in vector and separate it from the first vowel. any help is appreciated. my code looks like : #include <iostream> #include "derrick_math.h" ...

 
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ahahaha
 
morning
 
@rightføld Reminds me of a student, who used n² if statements to check every combination. And she had the same code two or three times.
~300 lines of if … else if.
 
She wasn't lazy enough
 
user1646075
9:17 AM
@Rerito that's a good call. sometimes laziness takes great effort
 
So, just so we are clear. If I have two unit vectors A and B and I want to find the vector that cuts the angle between A and B in half, I just need to do: (a + b) / 2 or normalize(a + b), correct?
 
@Jefffrey Correct
 
user1804599
In Perl 6 you can do if substr(@vec[$i], 0 1) == 'a' | 'e' | 'u' | 'i' | 'o' { ... } :)
 
Then I'm going crazy
 
Huh?
 
9:18 AM
@GuruAdrian A paradox that is so true
 
user1646075
in perl5 you can include Quantum::Superpositions;
 
user1804599
@GuruAdrian That's the same thing as the Perl 6 mechanism.
 
user1804599
x | y | z is syntactic sugar for any(x, y, z).
 
user1646075
yup
 
user1646075
cooooool!
 
user1646075
9:19 AM
how many more decades do we wait until perl6 is usable?
 
user1804599
I played with libquantum and it's pretty interesting.
 
user1646075
it's a good lazy way to test for membership
 
@Jefffrey More precisely I think it's normalize(a) + normalize(b)
 
user1646075
if(x == any @list) { ....
 
@Jefffrey Doesn't work for opposite vectors
@Rerito He said A and B are unit vectors
 
user1804599
9:20 AM
@GuruAdrian In Python I just do if x in 'aeuio':
 
user1646075
except on opposite day!
 
Oh yes my bad
 
user1646075
@rightføld true ;-/
 
user1804599
In Clojure: (if ((set "aeuio") x)) :)
 
user1804599
Sets being functions is great: (def vowel? #{\a \e \u \i \o}).
 
user1646075
9:24 AM
in APL x ← y ϵ z for all members of y
 
user1804599
APL is beautiful.
 
user1646075
bring back APL's parallelism
 
user1804599
I like how the two Ls in "parallel" are parallel.
 
user1646075
and how parallel lines meet at infinity
 
@ParkYoung-Bae right
but that never happens
 
9:26 AM
Then what is your issue
 
@Jefffrey You are aware that those aren't the same in general? A = (1,0), B = (0,1), (a+b)/2 = (.5,.5), whereas normalize(1,1) = (1,1)/sqrt(2) (unless you norm1 instead of norm2).
 
user1804599
I think rational data type is underrated.
 
@Zeta Yes, I'm aware. But they are in this specific case, right?
 
@Jefffrey Well Zeta just gave you a counter example
 
user1804599
I wish it were possible to have one field be public with a supertype and private with a subtype.
 
user1804599
9:29 AM
Like (public B; private D) x;.
 
The norm change but the direction remains the same
 
@Jefffrey What specific case? You mean A = (1,0) B = (0,1)? Nope, they aren't the same: (1,1)/sqrt(2) is ~(0.7071, 0.7071). Regardless, the direction is the same.
 
right
 
@Rerito I think he cares about the norm, otherwise he wouldn't be normalizing nor dividing by 2 after the add
 
sorry
I didn't sleep at all tonight
 
user1646075
9:30 AM
@rightføld Eiffel can
 
Then if you want a unit vector, it's normalize(a+b)
 
so, I guess the correct one is normalize(a + b) if I want to get a direction back again
 
And as @ParkYoung-Bae mentioned, don't forget the case of two opposite vectors
 
If all directions have norm = 1, yes.
 
where a+b will be the null vector
 
9:31 AM
@Rerito probably NaN due to normalize but yeah, I consider that case
 
user1804599
@GuruAdrian woot
 
user1804599
Currently (in Go) I do this:
 
user1804599
	Events   <-chan Event
	events   chan<- Event
 
normalize :: Vector -> Either CannotNormalizeNullVectorYouCunt Vector
 
user1804599
They're always the same channel.
 
9:32 AM
@Zeta lol
wait
you know Haskell?
 
user1646075
redeclares. nominate the inherited attribute in a feature list with it's own export spec to classes of choice, including [NONE]
 
user1646075
none of this public, protected, private crap. So crude!
 
@rightføld but... but.. eventsu-chan!!
 
user1804599
@ParkYoung-Bae lol
 
user1804599
four chan faggot
 
9:34 AM
@Jefffrey A litte bit. But I have no clue about type theory.
But I posted hayoo just ~1h ago, which should have given a clue :D.
 
user1804599
Since we're talking about both 4chan and type theory, let's combine the two to make the discussion more efficient: OP is of type faggot.
5
 
I hate the way this place can't work out how to organise dependencies.
If A relies on an update to B, deliver B first.
 
user1804599
@thecoshman Maven
 
is that hard?
 
user1804599
No.
 
9:36 AM
@Zeta right
 
user1804599
@thecoshman Just graph algorithms.
 
user1804599
It should be an acyclic graph.
 
user1804599
Topological sort.
 
user1804599
 
well, they do seem to excel at 'solutions' that are not backwards compatible and rely on updates to many components
trying really hard to type properly, but its slow going, and my hand is derpy :P
 
user1804599
9:43 AM
Use a tool that verifies your dependencies are acyclic and that the correct versions are available.
 
it's simpler than that.
 
user1804599
> its
> then
 
they just keep pushing for API breaking changes, which puts pressure on every one to ensure it aligns.
 
user1804599
lol
 
these are internal APIs, so it's not hard to say vN introduces new way of doing thing, vN+2 will remove the old way.
 
user1804599
9:46 AM
Write compat layers!
 
"not enough time"
 
user1804599
lol pressure
 
user1804599
no wonder telecom sucks
 
managment
 
user1804599
Tell them you can't finish it on time.
 
9:49 AM
fuck I'm going mad
 
user1804599
You are already mad.
 
ok, time to learn how to debug with ghc
 
user1804599
import Debug.Trace
 
awesome, got a bunch of crash dumps from a customer site. Looks like the crash occurs in a Microsoft Firewall dll
 
user1804599
In Haskell is there a function like map that also passes in the previous and next element?
 
user1804599
10:00 AM
Currently doing this but maybe there's a nicer way.
 
Xeo
@rightføld so a 3-element fold?
 
user1804599
Yeah. :P
 
Xeo
don't think there's anything by default
 
@rightføld So many comments
 
user1804599
I haven't implemented comments yet.
 
user1804599
10:02 AM
I still have to decide on the syntax for them.
 
zipWith3 (\x y z -> …) xs (drop 1 xs) (drop 2 xs)
 
user1804599
@Zeta hmm :)
 
user1804599
thanks
 
But no, I don't recall anything that's built in.
 
fuck visual studio
 
10:04 AM
starbait
 
HOW CAN YOU CRASH ON TRYING TO LOAD DEBUG SYMBOLS FROM MICROSOFT'S OWN SYMBOL SERVER?
 
Did you enable logarithms in the command line?
 
user1646075
@ParkYoung-Bae fucking starbait, you mean
 
FUCK YEAH
 
ergh, and so begins the inter-continental 'team work'
 
user1804599
 
At one point, someone is going to call her child "Yeah". It will be awkward.
 
user1804599
Or "Baracco Barner"
 
user1804599
lol this code base uses null where false should be used and false where null should be used.
 
user1804599
like
 
user1804599
is_discount returns either true or null :S
 
10:17 AM
@rightføld Nice
 
@rightføld Well, at least discount doesn't return false (no discount), null (no item), 0.0 (some discount) or "0.0" (PHP), right?
 
user1804599
It should return false.
 
user1804599
Not null.
 
// TODO: Throw proper exception.
throw "fuck";
 
user1804599
Oh wait discount.
 
10:20 AM
lol
 
user1804599
discount is either a decimal or null.
 
user1804599
Should be MonetaryValue or null though.
 
I was going to ask whether you're using JS or ruby.
 
user1804599
@Zeta No, I don't.
 
user1804599
@Griwes I first have to implement exceptions, which is suck.
 
user1804599
10:22 AM
I must store in the stack frames the size of the evaluation stack because I have to restore it when exceptions are thrown.
 
Why did that break the formatting? :/
SO chat = suckage
 
user1804599
> C++
 
Xeo
> and realized: the this pointer is a pointer.
gasp
 
Wow. "a something T is a T". I've never realized that.
 
10:34 AM
ITT: reddit cannot into logic
 
@Zeta Just append the "I am now a C++ guru" and this will depict the feelings of these people
 
Are there any big projects use this method? How efficient is it? — poeteto 3 hours ago
can we smell the cluelessness
 
Who's wearing hats?
haha
Though, to be honest, this one looks crap.
 
I'm wearing the invisible hat. It's super secret and super elite.
 
You should sell it
Infinite money
 
10:41 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes the "me-be-leet" incrowd. I'd say ~game devs
@StackedCrooked ssssshht! You spoiled my secret
 
@Rerito Why infinite? He only has one.
 
Then it needs to be untouchable as well as invisible
 
Xeo
@Griwes ~ninja~
or something
 
I lost all interest in them hats around 2 years back
 
10:49 AM
heh, Windows Reliability Monitor is interesting
I can see when my vacation was
by the fact that I had several weeks where nothing crashed
 
@Rerito But it's still only one hat!
 
But then he can trick the buyers !
 
He would never!
 
I think Robot's really subtle here about something
but maybe's just my imagination at work
 
@jalf You found the cause. Now close all these connect tickets :)
 
10:55 AM
@AlexM. Nah, I'm just joking.
 
@AlexM. He would never!
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