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12:04 AM
Is there a good way to std::string::pop_back() in C++03?
good = efficient
 
why not substr
 
Cuz I don't want to copy the string willy nilly.
`foo.erase (foo.length() - 1);`

That works?
 
Probably.
I'd use resize instead.
 
@QuestionC Looks about right. Alternatively, you could use foo.erase(foo.rbegin()).
 
Yup
 
12:11 AM
> You've likely heard of Hatred, an isometric action game about a mass murderer who slaughters people for fun, just because he hates humanity. pcgamer.com/hatred-gets-red-light-on-steam-greenlight
^ Steam didn't accept the game
it sparked arguments like "well other games on Steam let you do the same things"
but yeah the game gets hurt pretty bad for making violence the main aspect
I wonder if it would have been accepted if they moved the focus on some random stuff instead of that, but still allowed the same gameplay
 
Ell
 
SC3000 is an old game.
Too bad it won't run on x64.
At least I was never able to get it to run.
 
Ell
A good one though
 
@AlexM. TBH, I seriously do not see why would anybody want to play that game.
 
@AlexM. As with the game Bully.
 
12:22 AM
@Nooble and Manhunt
@VáclavZeman me neither
 
Also, damn Factorio again, it is 1:22 AM again!
 
but still
a guy in the comments has a point
if you make violence the main aspect everyone reacts badly
but if you just give the player the things he needs to be violent and say it's his fault he's like that, it's ok
 
Cough GTA
 
@AlexM. That is the same as "guns don't kill people, people do."
...I think.
 
"We've heard that GTA lets you... uh, have sex with prostitutes and then murder them, after killing hundreds of people on the street."
"Yeah well that's only if the player does it!"
 
Ell
12:27 AM
Just like real life
 
To be fair, GTA was banned because of "sexualizing" women.
 
yeah it got banned in some supermarket fuck knows who buys games from in Australia IIRC
because of feminist petitions and shit
apparently games should only allow you to kill men, not women
 
^
They disregard that way more men get killed in that game.
 
the main issue is that these petitions are written by people who have never played the game
and have no contact with the games industry
they just heard that a hooker gets killed and went berserk
as I said the supermarket is not that big of a deal but still, it's essentially censorship in a very isolated area
for no real reason other than to make a group of people feel good
 
And the game pretty much censors everything.
 
12:33 AM
we need more games with female antagonists
I can name a few good inspirational materials lol
 
Well there's Tomb raider
 
isn't that a female protagonist?
 
Oh you said antagonist
 
yes
this idea that only men can be bad guys
only men can die
etc.
I wonder what would happen if we just scratched it
(except for the feminist outbreak of course)
 
lol
 
12:37 AM
we could create new kinds of villains
 
Ell
I'm going to start a little django project tomorrow
 
don't
save yourself
 
meh I need some sleep :\ only slept ~4 hrs yesterday
I want that holiday damnit
4 days to go
 
@AlexM. I'm surprised your message has survived for a whole minute without hoards of SJWs descending and flagging it (and you) into oblivion for having the temerity of even suggesting such a thing.
 
lol
Far Cry 4 had a female antagonist
 
12:39 AM
@AlexM. Wouldn't that spark a bigger problem? Feminists aren't after equality you know.
 
but it was a very masked fight
you essentially battled a masculine figure
in some sort of dream world
and at the end you just saw her dead
 
lol, I got Imitation Crab already. only been playing hats for like an hour
 
I personally did not like it
 
> downvote 5 or more posts in a day
 
considering all the other "boss fights" were up close single shot business
actually scratch that
 
Ell
12:41 AM
@Jefffrey is it bad?
 
the game lets you shoot a specific woman in an up close single shot business
I wonder why they insisted on using that mask for the boss fight tho
 
@Ell nah, it's meh
it's just boring
 
@Nooble well
as with all of the problems of humanity
I doubt the different factions will hold hands and become friends without trying to stab each other later on
one side will have to win over the other
whoever wins, I hope I'm on their side LOL
 
> Hi English-language readers! This blog post is not for you;
 
12:46 AM
StackOverflow in Japanese, now with 100% more loli
the author is the moderator guy from workplace.se
 
> BREAKING NEWS:Russia's central bank raises key interest rate from 10.5% to 17% amid currency fears
woah
 
he came here to ban AKK, many generations ago
 
> Come on over to my place and we can talk about it over some nice tea. It's no cure for stupid, but it's a natural laxative, and I can tell you're full of shit.
3
 
@EtiennedeMartel Smooooth
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit imagine this awesome question being asked there
with the most awesome answer
basically a breakthrough in programming
the rest of the world would not know about it
on a more serious note, I don't really think spawning SO sites for different languages is a very good idea
then again, I'm the guy who thinks the whole world should speak one language
so fuck do I know
 
12:54 AM
goat oo hell
(don't really)
nn
 
SO is a very particular case even
it's supposed to be for programmers
and programmers are supposed to be able to uh at least communicate in basic english
 
@AlexM. lately it seems to be for lazy ass students who dont want to do their homework
fuck those questions
 
Dec 11 at 10:35, by Xeo
Exactly. The language of the IT world is English, period.
hey, I'm a lazy ass student who doesn't want to do his homework too :(
except I don't really do my homework
 
> lately
lol
youths
 
meh, spent a total of 3 hours in college this semester, which ends in a few weeks
I got used to the idea that I'll just go to the secondary exam session
when you have to bring in assignments and shit that you did not bring during the semester
 
1:01 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit its assignment season right now, should be over in about a week
 
> I want the Coca Cola truck from the commercials!
that's... actually a good idea
for Euro Truck Sim
as usual community skins don't disappoint ets2.lt/en/?s=coca+cola
been seeing coca cola xmas ads since I was a kid
that coca cola truck = xmas, essentially, in some ways because of that
 
Experts of SO, what am I better off learning first, Java & JavaScript or Java & C++?
 
user1646075
@AlexM. and we should all eat McDonalds and we should all watch Seinfeld.
 
user1646075
morning:=)
 
Morning?
Morning!
@DemCodeLines Yes.
 
user1646075
1:12 AM
actually no, it's now noon! I guess i slept well.
 
@Nooble huh?
 
user1646075
@DemCodeLines he means, sure why not.
 
user1646075
all of the above.
 
@GuruAdrian Waking up at noon? Are you on vacation or did you get fired?
 
user1646075
but seriously, if you want to be an "enthusiast programmer" you should cover a bigger spread than that
 
user1646075
1:14 AM
@Nooble none of the above. 1/ sick leave after eye surgery. 2/ stayed up until 4:30am watching that sudden end to the thing here.
 
What exactly happened? Did POI get sniped?
 
Well, being an enthusiast is one thing, knowing the right languages and getting a job to live is another. I would ideally like the former, but the latter is more important as soon as I get out of this college.
 
user1646075
Welllll, trying to fathom, but seems like surprise shots were fired inside, so they stormed the place. I could read between the lines about the actions of a hostage who died, but i'll wait for the factts to come out.
 
@GuruAdrian My eyesight is pretty bad, nearsighted.
 
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@Nooble i got a bit of thhat. But the issue for me is, my left eye is dodgy and it's had a few events. this is my 2nd intervention. Luckily my right eye is close to standard issue.
 
user1646075
1:17 AM
my left eye is like 4chan - it was never any good.
 
hehe.
I had glasses since 5th grade ;_;
 
user1646075
3 interventions if you count a cataract that cooked up in my early 20's, 40-50 years ahead of average. I got a lens replacement and that was so awesomely easy to undergo and recover from I'm still surprised by it.
 
Ell
I started wearing glasses last year
 
How bad is it? Near or far?
 
user1646075
it creeps up on you.
 
1:20 AM
@GuruAdrian I hate surgery. I hate anything that involves needles.
And also being put to sleep.
 
user1646075
pro tip - don't stare at the sun looking for enlightenment /ref Master Po
 
I'm a 3.25 lens.
 
user1646075
@Nooble i didn't let myself think of that. The first one was horrible so I blanked it out. This time the recovery has been relatively pleasant. relative being the keyword.
 
user1646075
@Nooble that's getting on in the numbers. I think my good eye is -0.5 iirc
 
Eye doctor says it'll only get worse because my eyes are still growing.
And, carrots, aren't getting anywhere near to tasting better.
 
user1646075
1:23 AM
my wife ended up with -6 in both eyes, had laser correction and it's been unbelievably effective. When your eyes stabilise in prescription (age changes stop mid-20's I think), don't be afraid to seriously consider that if you find glasses a pain in da ass
 
Ell
Im lucky to have a positive integer of eyes, 2 specifically
Not sure how anyone ends up with -6.
 
user1646075
doesn't that mean you have long-sightedness?
 
user1646075
i thought the neg numbers mean short-sighted, pos numbers long-sighted
 
Yeah.
I can't possibly imagine things being blurry up close but perfect afar.
 
user1646075
oh - also i think aus uses a different scale from US - what you say as 20/20 is said as 6/6 here. so I don't know if there's differences in the correction factors too.
 
user1646075
1:24 AM
@Nooble that would totally suck as a regular screen user
 
I think I'm reaching the point where it's already blurry even a foot off the screen.
 
Ell
I can't read things far away. That makes me short sighted right?
 
user1646075
yup
 
Yeah.
Lasik sounds painful.
 
user1646075
personally I'm still annoyed by glasses. I only started using them about 20, and also contacts just don't work for me 'cos pain. Fucking nuicance. I blame my parents for giving me dud genes in this department
 
user1646075
1:29 AM
@Nooble it was actually totally unpainful, recovery was staggeringly quick and simple.
 
user1646075
or so I'm told
 
I could get those hard-eye-shaping contacts you wear overnight
And they give you perfect vision after.
 
user1646075
for someone who couldn't see to find her glasses on the bedside until she had her glasses on .... it's been a resounding success
 
user1646075
oh here we go.
 
user1646075
fuck these hats.
 
1:30 AM
What haaatttssss?!
 
user1646075
@Nooble for how long?
 
48 hours
But you're supposed to wear 'em everynight.
 
user1646075
@Nooble really? even I've become aware of the hats. :=) someone will explain
 
@GuruAdrian what!? D: how dare you! I have a red shirt "hat"
 
user1646075
@Nooble eye stuff is wierd
 
user1646075
1:31 AM
@Borgleader communist! what's that one for?
 
@WorldOfWarcraft we know it's you spamming the star board, you sneaky ninja.
 
Are those stars legit, or just more hatwhoring?
 
> Red Shirt
cast 5 downvotes on posts that are later deleted or closed
 
user1646075
hat whoring. nothing remarkable in it
 
Jesus christ someone explain the damn hats!
I want a hat.
 
1:32 AM
@Nooble do things, get hats, like badges but temporary
 
user1646075
@Nooble NOOOO! DON'T DRINK THE COOLAID!
 
they do this every year around xmas
 
user1646075
go to your profile. at teh top you'll see a pale snowflake. click it.
 
ok
 
@Nooble hahahahahahaahahahah
 
1:34 AM
Chat profile or...?
 
funny hat
 
user1646075
@Nooble so profile
 
user1646075
@WorldOfWarcraft oh well done. Mommy is so proud.
 
Great I have a hat.
 
user1646075
@Nooble do you? I haz a bukkit.
 
1:37 AM
How do I get moar hats.
Is there like an achievment list?
 
Ell
You could get a lens replacement if you don't want laser
A plastic lens
 
wtf?
 
user1646075
@Ell that's far more interventionist
 
@WorldOfWarcraft No cursing, young man.
 
user1646075
lasik is both genius and spooky-gross, like most medical science. Science: fuck yeah!
 
1:39 AM
I absolutely adore quadratic equations. They're so fun. Especially in word-problem form.
 
Ell
I think lens replacement is safer
 
user1646075
@Nooble and I like hugging cacti. We're not that different
 
Ell
And the only option for some ailments
 
user1646075
@Ell noooo - the work is more interventionist.
 
Wonderful! It's not factorable!
 
user1646075
1:40 AM
@Ell but not ordinary short-sightedness.
 
So we get hats for starring things?
 
Ell
Apparently the surgery is almost identical to catetact surgery
 
user1646075
@Ell yeah. are you talking plastic replacement, or donor replacement? either way it's a foreign object as such, vs lasik which only changes the shape of your existing flesh, thus avoiding a whole gamut of possible issues
 
user1646075
@Nooble that's one of them
 
Ell
I'm talking plastic
@GuruAdrian that's true
 
1:44 AM
@GuruAdrian So by starring things, I can get imaginary internet hatz?
Quick, someone make a funny joke!
 
user1646075
@Ell yeah i have that for the cateract. I missed out by a mere few years from having new-fangled multi-focal lens - it's in a few segments that actually 'accomodates' like a normal lens. Yet more magical medical science.
 
user1646075
@Nooble OK, a neutron walks into a bar...
4
 
user1646075
my eye is the only unavoidable defect. Unfortunately my other issues could have been avoided by, I dunno, sitting at home and avoiding life.
 
@GuruAdrian Hahahahahahahahahahaha! I loved the punchline.
 
user1646075
actually the non-punchline is for a neutrino ('cos noone noticed the poor thing)
 
user1646075
1:48 AM
neutron: and asks for a beer. Then he asks the bartender "how much?" bartender: "for you, no charge"
 
Ell
@GuruAdrian you could get another replacement if you wanted couldn't you?
Eyes are pretty amazing
 
user1646075
for the cataract? not sure if doable. also since that eye has never contributed much beyond helping with 3D perception, it's probably pointless. when I got glasses for the first time, it was wierd because the brain started paying more attention to it, and I had wierd ever-so-slight double vision until the brain learned to track completely properly it with the other one.
 
The Oculus Rift shall deliver.
 
user1646075
omg - 40 years ago at xmas a cyclone pretty much destroyed Darwin. Old footage is being shown, and it's scary how non-obese the average person was 40 years ago.
 
user1646075
1:56 AM
even the 50+ year old women handing out cups of tea have figures your average 20-something would long for these days. I blame pizza. PIZZA, @AlexM.
 
Ell
Macbeth was on the radio the other day
And now here. Is it an amniverysary or something.
Boy inbred sleep
Night folks!
 
user1646075
ciao
 
4:48 AM
I've never seen the lounge so... Empty.
Don't mind me, I'm trying to install CAD software so I can finish my DDP project.
It's only like, 30GB's.
It's not at all like I've been up all night waiting for this to install or anything like that.
I've only now realized that my download speed is being capped by their servers. This is like downloading games of off Steam, but possibly longer and with real-life consequences.
 
user1646075
5:08 AM
@Nooble back! just had a nap. can't get enough of it. got sick of the teev.
 
I'm making a cube.
 
user1646075
congrats!
 
user1646075
takes great precision
 
Now I have to make 27 of them.
And make a puzzle cube.
 
user1646075
?
 
5:10 AM
DDP course.
Design and Drafting
 
user1646075
wot's a puzzle cube. like a rubiks?
 
Kinda.
 
user1646075
interlocking wierd-ass blocks
 
Yes.
 
user1646075
gotcha. that'll be fun. In real life or just on screen?
 
5:11 AM
Both.
We already did the real life part of it.
 
user1646075
oooh. a 3D printer would be nice now
 
user1646075
oh right, how?
 
Wooden cubes.
Glued together and colored.
 
user1646075
is there any science/maths, to sort-of direct you to being able to disassemble it on first construction, or do you just take care to make sure you don't over-lock it?
 
We just take care of it really.
 
user1646075
5:13 AM
figures.
 
user1646075
no pun intended
 
It should have 5 parts, no more, no less.
 
user1646075
i read once that it's been mathematically proven you can get a table with 4 legs to sit completely on uneven ground, but you cannot guarantee that from 5 legs up
 
user1646075
a tripod is trivially stable, but nobody was sure about 4 legs. we need to know these things
 
3 legs? 3 points in a triangle?
 
user1646075
5:16 AM
a 3 legged table will always have each foot on uneven ground, assuming sufficient reach of course.
 
So the legs can have varying length?
 
user1646075
sure, within reason yes
 
But then any table with any number of legs should be able to stand on uneven ground.
 
If they don’t sit on the ground they’re not legs :)
 
user1646075
well, no! that's the thing. and it's proven now.
 
user1646075
5:18 AM
oh, they are not adjustable once you get started.
 
user1646075
eg the simplest thing is to just start with all legs the same length. and pick randomly uneven ground that you cannot predict ahead of time before table construction.
 
Alright then, I get a tripod. But 4 legged tables? Those are notrious for shaking about.
 
user1646075
yup - but it is now proven that with sufficient persistence you'll be able to get alllllll 4 legs to touch ground. The world can now relax at cafe's
 
user1646075
this is what our tax dollars is paying for. essential research
 
So the valedictorian of this year in my school just got her acceptance letter to Harvard.
Instant jealousy everywhere.
 
user1646075
5:22 AM
i guess, funnily enough, if the ground is perfectly flat then an arbitrarily badly-built table cannot be made to settle
 
@GuruAdrian Exactly!
 
user1646075
damn. Oh well, yours is in the mail
 
If only they accepted Koalas.
 
user1646075
@Nooble so it means that people laying floors should not try to make them level
 
user1646075
@Nooble put that in your Diversity Statement
 
5:23 AM
I heard they had a different degrees for women who went to harvard until somewhere early in 2000.
So no woman technically graduated from harvard up until that point.
 
user1646075
shit eh - that's wierd
 
"Harvard Annex"
That's what they called it.
 
user1646075
Geez I think I need Jalf. Just been discussing the seige with Mr 10, and he commented "apparently he deserved to die" obviously from hearsay he's been getting (he didn't sound personally convinced). Of course I'm completely ill-equipped to answer that one or provide any guidance, so I'm really at a loss now.
 
The POI?
 
user1646075
Is that dripping with enough sarcasm and distaste? I hope so. it's notoriously difficult to transmit feels in mere words as we all know.
 
user1646075
5:29 AM
yup
 
He had it coming.
I mean, he was one person.
How many hostages were killed?
 
user1646075
it was a possible/probable outcome, as soon as it started. but even when it's unbelievably clear-cut who's at fault, it's hard to make that call. Continuums like that have to be stopped before they start to slide
 
Ideally you shouldn't ever kill the POI.
You can interrogate him/her.
 
user1646075
2. looks like the guy tried to snatch the gun as the perp was falling asleep, and he got shot, and then a woman. a few others also got a few wounds
 
You know the girl that @AlexM. said looked like a guy?
That might be her.
 
user1646075
5:32 AM
@Nooble Vengeance shall be mine, sayeth the lord. And if you're not religious, you can see that leaves nobody with the right to vengeance.
 
user1646075
no, i think the one that was holding up the flag at first was the other one.
 
user1646075
also the woman shot was the blonde holding up the other side. her chin was unmistakable
 
Good point, also noticeable size difference.
Speaking of Mr. 10, what are you getting him for the holidays?
 
user1646075
@Nooble since he's now aware that santa is a hoax, and since he needs an ipod or android for school next year, that's the major, and he also wants a PS3 game or two. That'll help keep the delusion going for the other two who still keep the faith.
 
user1646075
5:37 AM
heh. Why you NYC fascination with marsupials and koalas in particular?
 
user1646075
his "teddy" and "reindeer" plushies are now retired until needed for duty at 18th and 21st birthdays
 
Actually, the Koala picture is from the default Windows 7 sample picture library. SO asked for a profile picture, so I gave it a random one. Been making Koala jokes ever since.
 
user1646075
ahhhh fair 'nuff. thought you were the marsupial equivalent of a weaboo or something
 
user1646075
They're ripe for comedy, because marsupials are ridiculous.
 
user1646075
it's surprising the intelligent design fans haven't latched onto them.
 
5:41 AM
And deadly.
 
user1646075
1/ kangaroo's balls are on the opposite side, anatomically speaking, so they don't get smacked on the ground in mid-bounce.
 
user1646075
2/ wombat pouches are facing backwards because otherwise they'd get full of dirt from all the digging
 
user1646075
and so on
 
I heard Kangaroo's are real great at boxing.
 
user1646075
oh yeah, if they try to have a go at you, they can gut you with their hind-legs.
 
5:44 AM
@GuruAdrian I'm telling you, bigger screen = more cool points at school.
 
user1646075
they mostly kickbox, and grapple with teh fore-paws
 
user1646075
@Nooble noted. being cool is v. important.
 
Anddddddddd, I'm done with the project.
In color too, extra fancy.
 
user1646075
what irritates me is that ipod actually seems VERY price-competitive with the top androids. So unless the top androids are like 3 times faster and sexier, i might actually have to purchase an apple product for the 1st time in my life.
 
user1646075
@Nooble nice. now wash the crayon dust off your fingers.
 
user1646075
5:47 AM
oh - that was in CAD? no cleaning!
 
@GuruAdrian Never give up! Never surrender!
Oh the perks of CAD.
Copy & Paste delight.
 
user1646075
@Nooble i'll willingly pay 30% more if it's twice as awesome. I need to do serious compares.
 
Anyways, I'm gonna go off to bed now.
 
user1646075
ok, enjoy. Sleeping is nice.
 
Are you looking for iPods or iPhones?
 
user1646075
5:48 AM
non-cellular tablet
 
user1646075
mini-ipod or the full size one or equivalent.
 
user1646075
the school prefers it to be incapable of use on the cellular networks
 
user1646075
and i concur
 
Things are real expensive with non-cellulars.
Apple is very price competitive as you say.
 
user1646075
he's close to the point where the hormones kick in, and I'd prefer to make it difficult as possible for him to get a skewed impression of what a female should look/act like.
 
user1646075
5:50 AM
i fear for this generation
 
But, of course, there is an android counterpart. Meet the OnePlus One
Runs the latest android, and one of the best specs in the market.
It has a quad-core and a decent GPU for games. Full 1920x1080p display. And, unlike iPod's, they have a microSD expansion slot, so you can expand the storage further.
3GB of RAM.
13 megapixel camera and can record in 4K.
Of course, accelerometer and gyroscope.
 
user1646075
@Nooble that is a bonus.
 
Are you ready for the worst part?
 
user1646075
i'd get myself a nexus if it wasn't for the slot problem. so now I need to think a bit carefully about that.
 
user1646075
go ....
 
5:55 AM
It has an invite only system!
Mwahahahaha.
 
user1646075
huh???
 
You can't buy it unless someone has invited you.
And I haven't been invited.
 
user1646075
wtf - marketing bs to build the hype. what a wank
 
The marketing tactic makes no sense.
Best phone out there.
 
user1646075
it's to make people scramble to get over-excited and carry on, so other people get excited and carry on. Instant apple-fag equivalence.
 
5:58 AM
There are ways to get it without invite though.
Costs extra though.
 
user1646075
i still want to be able to fondle the units before committing. I'll just waste the time of local retailers.
 

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