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9:00 PM
@sbi yeah, I that's how I understood you - just my poor English ;)
@VáclavZeman redtube links oneboxing
 
@BartoszKP Ah! :)
 
my burger is an hour away >.<
I haven't eaten all day
 
user1804599
I have marrowbones yummy.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit :P my yesterday's meal
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Orite. I hate that. I have enough trouble getting myself home.
 
user1804599
9:06 PM
Man, I want to go to a concert again.
 
@BartoszKP oh! now I'm upvoting the Spotify Oneboxing feature-request
 
I'm in Munich but I happen to hate Oktoberfest. That's a bad combination of factors.
 
@BartoszKP you came all over your bacon?!
 
@sehe yeah, it was about the slippery slope argument as a most probable response to spotify oneboxing request : D
 
Which is why I, by reverse logic, am suddenly in favour
 
9:09 PM
@sehe no, I was wiser than @LightnessRacesinOrbit , and didn't try to make garlic sauce myself :P
 
user1804599
lol in this live video they filmed crowdsurfing people that got carried away by guards
 
@sehe ok, now I get it, lol I'm slow
 
@BartoszKP lol
@LightnessRacesinOrbit 5 imaginary points that this will either be ignored or implemented before uneditable/kick audits
 
ikr
 
@rightfold I would hope so, else you would be sorta floppy.
 
9:17 PM
@BartoszKP Are you on a diet or something?
@CatPlusPlus ;p
@BartoszKP bah
Doctor Who fans:
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Q: How could the moon's mass increase?

Lightness Races in OrbitThe plot of Kill The Moon was rooted in the idea that It turned out that But So where did all this material suddenly come from?

 
user1804599
Circle pits are fun.
 
spoilers
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit that was after a training + I'm ill, so garlic++
@LightnessRacesinOrbit haven't seen this one yet :v
 
@BartoszKP If I thought there was any chance in hell they'd consider doing it, I'd down-vote. Not on the "slippery slope" argument, but simply because I think it's an utterly stupid idea. Wanting on a picture for a web site that's devoted exclusively to sound is a symptom of either Synesthesia or terminal stupidity.
 
Noting that this is for Windows, it sure sounds like a job for an HTML application, file extension ".hta", and not a C++ program. — Cheers and hth. - Alf 20 secs ago
what
 
9:19 PM
Garlic++, where can I get that?
 
@JerryCoffin lol :D I really laughed loud at the summary part :D
@MartinJames from your determination :)
 
ahahaha hta
ahahahhah
aahahahahahahha
unironically
hta
 
user1804599
Still better than C++.
 
user1804599
Everything is better than C++.
 
9:25 PM
Counterpoint rubby
 
sbi
@BartoszKP What's that stuff on the plate been for? You had a bottle of wine!
@rightfold C?
 
user1804599
:D
 
sbi
D??
 
no, D is even worse
@sbi right, although I was a bit hungry ;)
 
D is mostly uninteresting
 
9:26 PM
Java.
 
I'll pick Java over C++ any day
 
Jefffrey is not here, so I think PHP can be safely mentioned ;0
 
Language is boring but tooling wins 10 times over
 
user1804599
Scala woo
 
oh wait, I forgot what is being listed
 
9:28 PM
hmm
you mean, "Must find code at runtime with shitty env variables"? "Files on hard drive must match code structure in an utterly pointless fashion"?
no thanks.
including headers may suck but at least it's done once at build time.
 
lol manual namespacing
Packages are loaded once too
Well classes
 
user1804599
The former applies to C++ as well. The latter is a good thing.
 
well, in C++ it only applies if you're a moron who dynamically links.
 
Also lol like C++ compilers don't use env variables :allears:
 
at least I can choose to statically link.
 
user1804599
9:29 PM
Well apart from one class per file, but packages matching file structure is good.
 
Puppy still bad at tools and environment
 
gotta admit I did not have to set one single env var to run VS.
not that it is the greatest compiler ever, I'll admit.
but that particular flaw it does not have.
 
It's not a compiler
 
or VC++.
 
Also comparison so bad I'm not even going to say anything
 
user1804599
9:30 PM
It's a compile of shit.
 
cl uses INCLUDE/LIB/LIBPATH variables
 
Ell
@Puppy why is it moronic to dynamically link?
 
(Or equivalent compiler switches JUST LIKE JAVA OMG)
 
sbi
One of my sons (a teenager) went to a friend of his today, hopes high. They bought some food they meant to cook a meal from and planned to watch a movie together, while her parents weren't at home. Yet, when I came home earlier this evening he was here, spirits low. Very low. Apparently, she told him that she feels like this isn't going where she wants it to go, and if he would mind going home. I heard nothing but sad music from his room ever since he told me and withdrew. Sigh.
 
@Ell Principally because you therefore have to shit around with finding code at runtime with shitty env vars and whatever.
 
sbi
9:31 PM
Now you tell which of us two is feeling worse about this, him or me.
 
user1804599
Cat.
 
instead of it just automatically being there every time.
 
@sbi important experience to have :)
 
lol
so bad
 
sbi
@BartoszKP Are you referring to his or mine??
 
9:33 PM
@sbi tough blow.
 
@sbi lol, his, but one possibly could argue that any new experience can be somehow valuable :)
hi Robot!
 
what's news
 
sbi
@BartoszKP It's not new to me. Another one of my child had a first relationship going down the drain last year, which is a bit similar. Still, seeing your child suffer that badly without being able to do anything to soothe the pain is never an easy for a parent.
 
@sbi I presume your bad feelings are out of sympathy. I'd say he's got it worse. Is this his first encounter of such likes?
 
Xeo
9:35 PM
@KerrekSB ohai, long time no see in here
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes So what have you been drinking from Erlenmeyerkolbens today?
 
lol no
I was playing Diplomacy today.
I won.
 
@sbi I can only try to imagine, tough luck. Hopefully it will get better from now in this context : )
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes A "lol no"? That sounds like a very dangerous drink.
 
Nothing ever gets better
 
9:36 PM
@sbi yet strangely not that much of a headache in the morning vOv
 
@Xeo Yep -- been busy, and the chat sometimes ends up taking large bites of time out of the day :-)
 
sbi
@thecoshman I don't think he had a girlfriend before. And the two of them had been friends for two or three years. I suppose that's over with now, too.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You can play Diplomacy over email online. Then it takes several months
 
@sbi we'll gloss over the fact I can barely speak my own language, yet alone a foreign one.
 
@CatPlusPlus lol, people in this room get better at not taking your grumpiness too seriously ;p
 
9:37 PM
And slowly erodes your trust in and respect for your friends
 
@sbi And you remembering making this experience yourself, and it was absolutely inconceivable you could get consolation from your parents :-(
 
user1804599
Saturn y u hexagon.
 
@KerrekSB We're playing Nomic
 
It doesn't erode my trust in anyone because I'm always the one backstabbing.
 
9:38 PM
But in true Lounge fashion out of 7 players only 4 remained
And it's been a week
 
@sbi Well, was he trying thinking that maybe it could more than friends, and she felt not then?
 
sbi
@πάνταῥεῖ Yeah, of course, what could an old man like me give him that'd get him off his moodiness now? Nuffunk, really.
 
I recommend cider #badparentingadvice
 
@sbi vOv maybe take him for a drink? Don't talk about it, just be there like?
 
@CatPlusPlus except chaos
 
sbi
9:40 PM
@thecoshman From what I can tell (he never was the talkative one in the family, and we're talking a teenage boy telling his father about some disappointment with a girl, remember) it seems they were already progressing to being more. Until tonight, that is.
 
@CatPlusPlus "The game can be played face-to-face with as many written notes as are required" -- oh dear, another bureaucracy-em-up?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Have you any friends (left)?
 
@thecoshman dealing with such things varies on the person heavily. From what I remember, I really preferred to be just left alone
 
@sbi in that case, being one who's not talkative, just be with him.
 
@KerrekSB Weaponised legalese the game
 
Some guy has kindly offered me to help him via email. How sweet.
 
sbi
9:41 PM
@thecoshman I tell all my kids that, should they plan to try getting stark drunk for the first time, I'd suggest doing this at home. But he isn't the kind of guy who drinks his troubles away, I guess.
 
@Kerrek yeah. They appreciate my brilliance when I backstab.
 
@sbi That's the crux, it's absolutely unimaginable for them, we once have made the same experiences, because "we simply can't understand, it's all torally different today" :P ...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Naturally
 
@KerrekSB lol@your comment :D
 
I am usually truly honest and reliable the entire game until I get to that point where a backstab wins it.
 
9:42 PM
@sbi I'm suggesting you erase the memory, just loosen him up to talk. You can only bottle (the figurative sort here) so much.
 
@BartoszKP I don't know how many lasting email relationships are forged this way.. I can't really believe that this ever works for anyone.
 
sbi
@thecoshman My general attitude is that, once they close their door, I'll need to knock and ask whether I can come in. If he wanted me to be around, he'd be out here. Since he withdrew, he wants to be on his own. I would rather respect that.
 
to the cave
 
@sbi Sure, but sometimes you really want (need) the door forced open.
 
Ell
@sbi my parents said this about getting drunk
 
9:44 PM
But hey, maybe tonights not the night.
 
@KerrekSB Few years ago I did e-mail a solution to one guy. You can imagine what happened next :|
 
@sbi Sorry though that you have to endure the musical fallout. I hope it isn't something unbearable.
 
sbi
@πάνταῥεῖ Well, you know, in a way it is different. And what do I know about this girl anyway that would help me to understand his feelings?? I noticed him calling someone earlier for almost an hour. I suppose that was his best mate. Compared to that, I'm nothing.
 
@BartoszKP Best buddies for life?
 
Ell
They encouraged me to drink in front of them so they could see how much I could handle
 
9:44 PM
@BartoszKP Sucker
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@KerrekSB :D nope, a new rule for the the spam folder
 
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Mr Ryan Kinal I am working on a university project...I am face with a problem..I need to print transcript to student...please share me your idea...this will be your kindness...your new friend Nasim bahar — Nasim Bahar yesterday
 
@sbi you're his dad.
 
user1804599
whaha
 
sbi
@KerrekSB Actually, 50% of what I hear is music he got from me.
 
9:45 PM
I am face
 
@sbi has the best selection of sad songs.
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I can confirm that.
 
@CatPlusPlus I never go further than an anonymous paste on the first night
@sbi Ah, good, I was going to say you could recommend something decent.
 
I never go anywhere
 
Ell
I like sad songs
 
sbi
@thecoshman Right. Which means that I will always be there for him – except when he prefers someone else. I'm there to care for him. If what happens to him makes me sad, I gotta take that to someone else. (Which I am currently doing, actually.)
 
Ell
9:46 PM
@catplusplus physically?
 
I feel like sad songs are counterproductive
@Ell No
 
sbi
@thecoshman No, never. Why?
 
@CatPlusPlus well .. yup :V
 
@thecoshman if there's a fire and you are unconscious?
 
Ell
Now we just need someone that always goes somewhere to test that theory
 
sbi
9:46 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Let's call it a "vast" one, shall we?
 
@Nasim This isn't a chat room or dating site. — Lightness Races in Orbit 7 secs ago
 
:D
 
@sbi own experiences.
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus With that attitude you'll never be getting anywhere either.
 
Why am I getting snaps from "collegefootball"
 
Ell
9:47 PM
I'm going to the job centre tomorrow to look for a programming job
 
And why is the "collegefootball" icon a rugby ball at a University? It should be a sphere at a prep school.
 
@sbi bringing up bad memories for yourself?
 
@Ell Good luck
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What's with the quoting yourself?!
 
@sbi I don't believe getting anywhere is possible
 
9:48 PM
Anyone else notice @Puppy is remarkably absent even at the weekend?
 
Ell
@lightness thanks :)
 
@Ell they don't have many, they tend to be more admin and paper work.
 
@CatPlusPlus you got here, somehow :V
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit he has a 'job'
 
So it's a non-starter really
 
9:48 PM
@KerrekSB I'm showing you all my comment so that you may upvote it, reply to it, or otherwise discuss it. It means "hey, look at this contribution."
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit thanks for pitching the cats :) Although good news, might be able to keep them now (going to get someone to look after them for a few months until we can sort something out)
 
Ell
@lightness yeah :/ I'm not sure if that's a good or bad sign
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Maybe he's heavily at work hammering out the finer points of... Wide?
 
@thecoshman At 10.50pm on a Saturday?
@OMGtechy Yay!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit He was here 15 minutes ago
(still bad at tools)
 
9:49 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit he's very serious about it.
 
Ell
@thecoshman anything is better than this
 
sbi
@thecoshman Shrug. Of course! Who has not felt bad about a relationship going awry?! That's not the point, though. The point is that me being a parent and he being a child means that it is my task to be there for him, not his to be there for me.
 
@CatPlusPlus Oh, well there you go then
 
Ell
Oh wait. Its a Sunday tomorrow
 
Still, he's been here less.
 
9:49 PM
@KerrekSB It would be over-compensating for an inferiority complex (other than for the fact that he really is inferior).
 
@Ell yeah, wasn't the best joke...
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit bad news is my pregnant partner is going to have to move in with my mother whilst I move near London for work
but yay for cats right?!
 
@sbi Careful asking this sort of questions around me :v
 
Babby at 21, gosh.
 
sbi
9:50 PM
@KerrekSB I got lots of indecently sad songs. He seems to like a lot of those. :)
 
indeed, and she's 20
 
Ell
Lordy lordy
 
@JerryCoffin That I cannot tell (people on the internet having complexes? come on!), but I was puzzling over the technical detail of how to do that :-)
 
Ell
I couldn't do that
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
Ell
9:50 PM
I hate holding babies, its far too much responsibility
 
@sbi has he expressly said he doesn't want to talk? Or is he just hiding?
 
Ell
Never mind feeding and raising one
 
@Ell I'm really scared I'm going to drop them haha
 
@Ell it's fine, they bounce
 
I'll have to focus on this Krylov subspace thing, #exciting #evening, cya everyone, have a nice weekend :v
 
9:51 PM
@OMGtechy what, they have cat fights?
 
Well right, it isn't the same. Mostly because it was about 35 ago for my side, and I have changed my POV's meanwhile, and that guy would certainly know (no matter if I'm his dad or not) ;-) ...
Heads up! It's awesome you're caring for your boys, not every kid is that lucky nowadays.
 
@sehe wha?
 
@KerrekSB Oh, that's trivial--the 2 mins ago (or whatever length of time) at the end of a comment is a link to that comment.
 
@Ell you didn't try hard enough
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus Why? Since I can't kick you out, I can do nothing about you being around. And since you seem to spend all your waking hours here, there's few time when I could talk about something you consider unfit to be talked about in your presence?
 
Ell
9:52 PM
@MarcoA. how? :O
it's beer and lots of it
and just general inebriation
@OMGtechy I'm really scared they're head will tear from their body because their necks are so weak :P
 
sbi
@thecoshman Isn't hiding a way to expressively say you do not want to communicate? I mean, short of communicating to say so, what other way is there to express this wish?
 
Ell
also that I'll drop them
 
@KerrekSB hello world -- me, recently
 
@KerrekSB you forgot to include iostream
@Ell hahaha
 
@OMGtechy Damn it, that almost never happens to me, I swear
 
Ell
9:54 PM
@sbi I think it can be, but I think it can also mean that somebody doesn't want to ask to talk, or to initiate the talking
 
@sbi well does he normally shut his room door? Wouldn't it be normal for him to spend time shut in his room alone? He's a teenage boy after all.
 
Ell
I know this is what I used to be like. I would only ever talk about something if somebody else asked me about it
 
@sbi oh he's just attention seeking, ignore him :P
 
sbi
@Ell I feel pretty confident that my kids consider me approachable if they need to talk.
 
Ell
@sbi Sure :) Just giving my 2 cents :)
 
sbi
9:55 PM
@thecoshman Of course he has his door mostly shut. He's got a bunch of little siblings!
 
sbi
@Ell Yeah, thanks for that.
 
@CatPlusPlus hahahaha xD
 
sbi
@thecoshman Yeah, actually I know. Poor pussy.
 
woah, my music carries to outside rather well. don't spend much time out front while it's playing. hmm
 
9:56 PM
@sbi exactly, so why does it suddenly now imply he doesn't want you make first contact. Worst case you get an upset 'leave me alone!'
 
@sbi It is a joke rooted in reality
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit best start using headphones for those 5 minutes it takes you.
 
Also completely unrelated
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@thecoshman very good
 
cc @TonyTheLion
 
9:57 PM
@CatPlusPlus you're full of good jokes today aren't you?
 
much prefer Westeros and Essos to Gondor
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit vOv it wasn't the smartest joke, but it has to be done none the less.
 
WHERE IS MY FOOD
 
sbi
@thecoshman because it's midnight and all his siblings have been asleep for hours? Because the evening, when they are asleep, usually is the time my older ones approach me to talk about the really important subjects? Because I just know? :)
 
I'm always full of good jokes
 
9:57 PM
@thecoshman I knew it was "coming"
 
You don't always deserve them
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit oooh you :P
@sbi fair enough. I certainly hope you know your own spawn better than me :P
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus And what have we done to you to deserve all those bad ones?
 
The nomic page looks like what a recovering MS Excel operator would imagine "fun" would be.
 
sbi
@thecoshman 'course I do! I barely know you, after all!
 
9:59 PM
Oh that's Discourse the future of forums by jef fatwood of snack overflow
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Ell
Whoa that is the game you've been talking about
 
@sbi we've drunk together, that's good enough :D
 

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