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8:07 PM
hey
 
Xeo
hi
 
finally all the videos are up on C9
 
@sehe Quotes, eh?
 
did anyone see the 2nd day Q&A? Bjarne mentioned he would like f(x) to lookup x.f() first, and only then fall back to f(x). Andrei grabbed the mic from him, but before he could say anything, there was anohter Q.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'm imitating the robot ("Like I'm hissing at the culprit")
11 hours ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@sehe I pronounce it as /f fs/
@EtiennedeMartel that's quite old
 
8:10 PM
@sehe Perhaps.
 
user1174868
is there any documentation on type casting rules?
 
I would have liked to hear his opinion because D has this feature (and the reverse: x.f() looks for f(x) )
 
@TemplateRex I call those "Extension methods".
 
Even more complicated lookup rules is what C++ really needs.
7
 
Xeo
ordered_overload([].f, []f)(x) :D
 
8:13 PM
@Xeo Stop that.
 
Xeo
No :(
 
Nobody likes your [].
 
Nobody likes your ponies, either.
:iceburn:
 
@EtiennedeMartel robot-vagina?
 
@Xeo [].f? what are you up to now
 
8:14 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I do!
@melak47 The same
 
@CatPlusPlus s/nobody/nopony/
 
Xeo
@melak47 I've been up to that for a while
@EtiennedeMartel Do you really not like it?
 
@Xeo Is the :D part of the syntax?
 
@Xeo I ONLY LIKE VEGGETABLES
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked Is it in code-font?
 
8:14 PM
@Xeo We need a OnlinePetition/KickStarter/VoteThisInTheStandard thingie :)
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel NIPPLE SALADS
 
Hmm, checkouting the full repo including the art was perhaps a bad idea.
 
@Xeo I don't know.
 
Xeo
(In courtesy of robot)
 
@Xeo On a more serious note, I don't like nipples in my salad.
 
Xeo
8:15 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Yes.
Never check out the gfx folder in the repo
 
@EtiennedeMartel And I don't like salad in my nipples.
 
@EtiennedeMartel You don't!?!?!
 
All these delicious max scenes.
@sehe No. I think I'm turning into a vegetarian.
Nipples are meat.
 
@Xeo What sourcery is this? Friggin subversion, or something?
 
@sehe Of course.
 
8:16 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Pro tip: you don't need to actually consume them!
 
NIPPLE SALADS
 
@EtiennedeMartel in b4 yahoo answers
 
@sehe Yeah, but then my salad still tastes like nipples.
 
Nipples taste good.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I dunno. Vegetarians rarely shun the taste. That's presumably why there are so many 'surrogate' meat products
@R.MartinhoFernandes Depends on the brand
 
8:20 PM
cat is the best compiler for writing quines.
 
@sehe They always have such a bland taste.
 
Xeo
You can compile stuff with @Cat? Cool.
 
Btw, using 'NIPPLE SALADS' in casual conversation with muggles doesn't work very well. Not that I tried.
 
Xeo
mhhhh
 
^ nipple
@R.MartinhoFernandes Tried muggles in your salad?
 
Xeo
8:22 PM
And talking to nipples instead?
 
I don't think they would mind.
 
user1174868
Ah why doesnt my avatar change
 
You need to wait.
 
lol
 
oh no, he's back
 
8:23 PM
I wanna live in a castle built of your agony and I wanna crumble it with an axe to your carotid arthery.
 
@ripDaddy69 So, are you ready to behave now?
 
That's poetry.
 
user1174868
@EtiennedeMartel I took my medication
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Credits?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes carotid?
 
8:24 PM
@ripDaddy69 That wasn't the question. Hi, btw. Nice to meet.
 
user1174868
I was just kidding
 
user1174868
I was told to take medication
 
Holy shit nobody cares stop bringing that up.
 
@Xeo the one that goes through your neck.
 
Xeo
Oh, I thought that was a typo.
 
user1174868
8:25 PM
I was joking
 
@ripDaddy69 Oh aha. I just found it. Still nice to meet. I think.
 
@sehe It's the guy who went batshit insane earlier and forced Xeo to swtich the room to Gallery mode.
 
Ell
@A.H. ohh
 
@sehe Interestingly, the only references to that are from him.
 
Xeo got mad. Mad with power.
 
8:25 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I joe/nano/kate. I'm dense, but not that dense
 
Xeo
Hulk-Mad
 
Also it's Zoidberg's fault.
 
@sehe Dude, they could make tank armor with you.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Mmm. I found a bunch more :/ Learn to wield the search engine
 
What did Zoidberg do?
 
user1174868
8:26 PM
Uh oh, you can only change display name once every 30 days
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes He wasn't here
 
Xeo
spew stupid stuff
 
@sehe He kept claiming someone told him to go kill himself.
 
@ripDaddy69 Unless you know tricks :/
 
@EtiennedeMartel Zoidberg.
 
8:26 PM
Oh, was it him that said the meds thing?
 
user1174868
@sehe I don't do tricks
 
Xeo
@sehe "gedit"? Ewww
 
@EtiennedeMartel No need to tell me, right. I searched
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes not AFAIR
 
fwiw he did
 
8:27 PM
Bad lobster.
 
Ell
Hmm I need an up to date copy of wide's grammar
 
@sehe Yeah, what I'm saying is: I can't find the message he's talking about.
 
@Xeo Fixed
 
Not that it's a big deal that needs to be brought up constantly for hours on end
 
I dunno if I passed my station already.
 
user1174868
8:27 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Not that I care anymore, it was said for certain by either Xeo or not-rightfold at around 4:45-5:30
 
Chatting in transit is dangerous.
 
@CatPlusPlus That makes sense.
@ripDaddy69 You do care enough to bring it, you know.
 
user1174868
Im not bringing it up anymore
 
lol that pinpoint accuracy.
 
@ripDaddy69 that's... really helpful. I suppose it has been deleted due to flags/moderator.
 
8:28 PM
Self-deleted.
 
Confirmed. My station was the previous one.
 
I asked. He explained. He showed sense of humour.
Let it go
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Congrats.
 
@CatPlusPlus Probably. Zoid never was the kind of guy who could put his balls on the table.
 
@sehe No.
 
8:29 PM
Wokay
 
(I found the message)
 
Xeo
I only told him to "GTFO"
 
See? Nobody can fucking tell.
 
I cannot put my balls in the table unless it's like a coffee table or something.
 
Nobody can ******* keep calm
 
8:30 PM
I went on the warpath to defend Xeo. Had I known it was Zoid, I would have stuck to more productive matters.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
@EtiennedeMartel Even more productive? Implausible. Oh wait, there's porn, I forgot
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes in?
 
@sehe I'm still at work.
 
stupid Auto correct
 
I'm gonna listen to some Jamiroquai. That'll help.
 
Ell
8:34 PM
@DeadMG is an ebnf of your grammar somewhere?
 
@Ell Try this (it's somewhat out of date though)
 
@EtiennedeMartel good call, doing that now. It's been a while
 
user1174868
Is there any advantage to programming entirely in a command prompt and vim, or does it just look more like the movie version of a hacker?
 
@ripDaddy69 I only use Visual Studio.
 
Ell
8:36 PM
@ripDaddy69 There is no inherent advantage
but I find I some people find themselves more efficient using just a keyboard, and with as much code visible as possible
@DeadMG thanks :)
 
> I understand your concern, but this feels like a language defect honestly. It makes no sense that you're forced to write 2^n constructors to achieve best efficiency.
 
@ripDaddy69 The advantage is: you're not tied to an IDE (you don't have to wait for it to load, you don't need to jump through hoops to get projects configured, you don't have to put up with broken Untellisense, you can switch a compiler at the touch of your fingertips, it can do compilation caching/distribution for free etc.)
 
@sehe s/an IDE/VS/
 
I was this close to telling him that no, you are not forced to do that: use perfect forwarding.
 
8:38 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Still about the eternal "what's best to move function arguments" topic?
 
user1174868
So if you are going to not be tied down to an IDE would you use a debugger outside of an IDE then?
 
But this time I managed to restrain myself
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Again? :)
 
@EtiennedeMartel Not really. Eclipse is not much better. QtCreator: not much experience with (but it's Vi key bindings aren't top notch)
@R.MartinhoFernandes Very well
 
Do not disturb the inmates.
 
8:39 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Works only on templates, and they have their own set of drawbacks...
@ripDaddy69 Exclusively, actually
 
I don't see how you can do what he wants without templates.
He wants what templates provide.
The ability to write generic code that works with different types.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, well, I can't see what you're referring to, so, I'll opt to believe you
 
If people want to shoehorn that ability on magical library types then well... Yeah.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, see the message I linked earlier
 
user1804599
Back.
 
user1804599
8:43 PM
I'm going to sleep.
 
user1804599
See you tomorrow!
 
night
 
user1804599
@ripDaddy69 WB!
 
@not-rightfold Wait. What? That's IMPOSSIBRU. Way too early
 
user1804599
8:46 PM
Nee man ik moet een fatsoenlijk ritme krijgen.
 
user1804599
Zou jij ook moeten doen.
 
@not-rightfold Wie zeej da?
 
user1804599
I did.
 
<- banned
 
user1804599
haha banned from google
 
8:50 PM
don't know what i did
can a router have a virus?
 
Xeo
proxy still on?
 
user1174868
I have been working on this problem for like two hours
 
user1804599
@JohanLarsson Does it run software? Yes. So yes.
 
Anybody see my video?
 
user1174868
I know I am stupid, but can I ask a simple question on the site or will it just get me banned again?
 
user1804599
8:51 PM
 
@ripDaddy69 ask your questions in stack overflow
 
@ripDaddy69 Is it an opinion-based question?
 
not here
 
@Xeo asking me?
 
user1804599
Banned?
 
user1804599
8:52 PM
 
Xeo
@JohanLarsson ye
 
user1174868
its a question from a programming problem
 
user1174868
I just dont want to get quesiton banned
 
@Xeo I have no idea, don't know how to check, would google it if I could :D guess I''l try the duck-thing
 
user1174868
Oh too late I am question banned
 
8:53 PM
@EtiennedeMartel This is mine, with half on each screen.
 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/ask
This is how you ask a question
 
user1804599
Stop asking bad questions.
 
user1174868
@Chemistpp I am banned
 
user1174868
I asked a question about a programming thing earlier and it got a bunch of down voted
 
user1174868
so now I can't ask
 
8:54 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh oh.
 
user1804599
You shouldn't have asked bad questions.
 
@ripDaddy69 Probably for a good reason. You don't get banned for one bad question. (do you?)
 
@not-rightfold You really are abrasive.
 
ripdaddy
 
(This is not a compliment)
 
8:54 PM
not suere where they came from
 
user1174868
@Chemistpp Yeah, if you are around 0 points and negative downvotes bans you
 
user1804599
@EtiennedeMartel Thanks!
 
user1804599
@EtiennedeMartel Oh.
 
@ripDaddy69 my first question was downvoted
 
user1804599
I am bad at pity.
 
8:56 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Hmmm. That's totally appropriate when someone says "I don't want to get question banned"
 
@not-rightfold I like your rough self.
 
@sehe Yes. But he still is abrasive.
 
It's not rough. It's clear.
 
user1174868
I have him ignored after he told me to kill myself
 
Ell
TODIL the dutch are known to be bluntly honest
 
8:57 PM
@EtiennedeMartel "He is" ? - not judgemental at all. Please, can we say "he still acts abrasive sometimes". Because, he probably does.
 
@ripDaddy69 That is the right thing to do.
@sehe Hmmm.
 
user1174868
Oh well I have spent about 2 hours on this question, I can't get it and I am question banned
 
user1174868
ARe there other sites like this?
 
FTR I wasn't there. But it seems you're harping on this quite a bit. I'm not seeing the abrasiveness here.
 
@ripDaddy69 msdn has a q&a thing
 
8:59 PM
Okay, now I kinda want to know. Who’s /u/mttd?
 
It makes sense for a grinder to be abrasive.
 
user1174868
Do question bans expire?
 
@KonradRudolph Some dude that posts tons of stuff on /r/cpp
 
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A: What can I do when getting "We are no longer accepting questions/answers from this account"?

ArjanWhy am I getting this message? As stated in the about links on every page, the Stack Exchange web sites are question and answer sites, not help forums. This implies that all posts are expected to have some value for later visitors too. To enforce that, and to prevent help vampires making the ans...

 
@ripDaddy69 I think if it lifts if you provide a few answers
 
9:00 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Exactly, but how do they correspond to L<California>?
 
@JohanLarsson non-negatives...
 
Bro, do you even lift?
 
user1174868
I can't answer anything, I don't know enough
 
user1174868
people more knowledgeable than me always answer the ones I can answer way faster and better
 
^ I know this feeling.
 
Xeo
9:00 PM
@KonradRudolph not?
 
Seriously?
 
user1174868
I am trying to do these project euler things but I think I am just going to gooel the answer to get past this one, my program should work but it won't return the right answer
 
Xeo
He's a blog-scraper vOv
 
@ripDaddy69 maybe go for tumbleweed stuff then, find an interesting one and try to research so you can answer it?
 
user1174868
@JohanLarsson Not a bad idea but I really have too much going on to do that kind of thing for a website like this. Have to get good grades in my classes
 
9:03 PM
@KonradRudolph Hmm, why would that be?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmm. I just assumed because they appear to be the first to link your most recent article, rather than somebody from this chat
(I actually intended to link it but wanted to wait until you had a chance to react to [my] feedback, and later I forgot)
 
I'm in CS137 atm lol
Our lab at the end of Friday is compiling Hello World in C.
I did it before he mentioned it, so I don't think it's worth going.
 
@ripDaddy69 Google question-banned me tonight
 
user1174868
I had no idea that was a thing
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Unrelatedly, if I just require a basic text container and no fancy Unicode stuff, is Ogonek more or less usable? I hate std::string.
Also, @R.MartinhoFernandes, sentences such as “There is no reason for stuff.” in the documentation are quite confusing ;)
 
9:10 PM
@KonradRudolph master is more or less stable, yes.
@KonradRudolph Example?
 
> This is useful to implement any algorithms that don’t depend on the encoding, like most Unicode algorithms. There is no reason for stuff.
 
@KonradRudolph Oh. You mean literally those words. I though you were paraphrasing.
That's an editorial mistake.
Ooops.
lol
 
Thought so ;)
 
WTF
@KonradRudolph All of these pass on master: github.com/rmartinho/ogonek/blob/master/test/text.c%2B%2B. Dunno if it's enough for you.
(And keep in mind that you are effectively the first beta tester :)
 
:p let’s see if I actually find a project to use this in … remember I’m hardly writing C++ at the moment, and if that, only bioinformatics tools
not much chance for text processing (rather than sequence processing)
That said, regular expressions are going to be an absolute must for this library ;)
Not sure if the retarded standard library regular expressions can be adapted
 
9:18 PM
@KonradRudolph Their design has unacceptable compromises.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That’s what I thought
Bummer
 
I think they might be somewhat usable if you keep to std::u32regex and text.
But I haven't checked for sure.
@KonradRudolph Sorry, not for 1.0. I need to keep my goals reasonable :) It certainly is on my list of directions to expand afterwards.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Sure, I’m not expecting you to single-handedly essentially replicate years of work of several Boost libraries in a few weeks ;)
take a whole month!
 
lol @ Herb's face (in every picture)
 
9:24 PM
Can’t they institute a dress code at GoingNative and forbid Hawaii shirts?
Oh, and mandate haircuts in the 00s
 
What do you have against Hawaii shirts?
> If I try to breastfeed, I'm asked to stop. I mean, wearing a cover up and in my own home, and my own mother and mother in law both were grossed out and uncomfortable around me feeding the baby around them.
If this kind of thing common wherever you live?
 
I don't dislike the shirts.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no
 
@KonradRudolph No!
@R.MartinhoFernandes no
@KonradRudolph IMPAHTANT!
 
9:32 PM
Why are Hawaiian shirts so universally hated?
 
Ell
Hmm I wonder
 
@wilx Because of racism, obviously.
 
+7 fireproof Hawaiian shirts are the bestest.
 
@wilx They are colourful. They draw attention. People hate that.
 
Oh, dammit, forgot the BUC.
 
user1174868
9:37 PM
well if anyone has some spare time to look at 30 lines of basic code I would be very thankful
 
user1174868
 
I meant blessed fireproof +7 Hawaiian shirts.
Need to play some more NetHack.
 
Runequest seems fun.
 
@ripDaddy69 prepare to be thankful
@ripDaddy69 that's not BASIC :)
 
user1174868
oh :(
 
9:47 PM
STL was the champ of GN, and Andrei was in particular bad form
the guys in Hawaii shirts were not too bad, though
 
@ripDaddy69 For a second I thought it was BASIC and I got scared.
 
user1174868
basic?
 
user1174868
oh
 
@ripDaddy69 Also, that's C.
 
user1174868
simple
 
user1174868
9:50 PM
Is there much of a difference between C and C++ at that level?
 
@ripDaddy69 What level?
 
@sehe it's RPC, by the terms
 
user1174868
beginner
 
Oh yes.
Your starting C program will use a lot of pointers.
In C++, you can afford to see them much later.
 
@ripDaddy69 you're checking palindromity of the factors, not the product?
 
user1174868
9:53 PM
umm
 
@GeloVolro Whatever.
 
user1174868
what is the difference?
 
@ripDaddy69 the assignment and the result
 
user1174868
I am just going from (999*999) down by 999 at a time
 
@ripDaddy69 Is 514415 the expected answer?
 
user1174868
9:54 PM
possibly
 
Hahah. Where do I check this :/
 
user1174868
No
 
You need to write a test that sees whether the product is palindromic
 
user1174868
oh my god
 
user1174868
9:56 PM
actually
 
user1174868
I thought i was doing it wrong for a second
 
user1174868
I dont understand why my method doesnt work
 
Perhaps it should be Hotel<California> or Desert<California>?
 
Ell
Okay what the hell! My phone is making the noise a speaker makes when a phone is near it :L
 
@ripDaddy69 hint: a palindrome check uses the same trick as reversing a string
 
user1174868
9:58 PM
@TemplateRex I don't know that trick but my method should work I think
 
@ripDaddy69 good for you, make sure to test it
 
(Although the gratuitous French makes me cringe a bit)
 
user1174868
@TemplateRex Ok
 
@EtiennedeMartel damn that music was loud
 

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