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9:00 PM
Evening
 
@rightfold because Git totally isn't fucked up in the head
 
user142019
Git is great.
 
no, it's not
it's overly complicated.
 
Oh boy, I wanna see this one
 
wanna see what one
 
9:03 PM
This fight about Git
 
What's overly complicated about Git?
UI is not obvious sometimes, but the concepts involved are pretty trivial.
 
compared to SVN, it's a cryptic piece of shit
 
user142019
You cannot compare Git to Subversion.
 
Have you tried branching and merging with SVN?
 
I am drunk, I can do what I want
 
user142019
9:04 PM
It's like comparing a car to a boat.
 
Also seriously, what's cryptic about it?
 
@CatPlusPlus no, I am totally talking about SVN because I've never used it
 
Anyone wants popcorns?
 
@CatPlusPlus the number of questions in
 
Yes, that is really relevant data.
Good job, you win the science fair.
 
9:05 PM
@Jeffrey I will take some
 
@CatPlusPlus it could have been simpler
 
You really love talking in vague terms about shit, and never bringing any concrete arguments, don't you?
Anyway, w/e.
 
@CatPlusPlus sometimes I do bring concrete arguments
 
The important issue is "what game should I play"
 
@CatPlusPlus let's play something
 
9:12 PM
@CatPlusPlus marbels up the nose
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
@Borgleader Must be some kind of anti-dutch question naming stuff: "Fout"
 
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Fuck, did I miss it?
 
Yes.
Is that regular popcorn or butter popcorn?
 
9:21 PM
Regular shitty popcorns
 
I love regular popcorn.
 
@DeadMG You neever said if I could post the toast picture. D:
 
Not this ones. Trust me
 
popcorn + oil + salt is good enough
 
oil?
 
9:22 PM
@Jeffrey lol :D
 
how else do you make it?
oil in the kettle while it's popping
 
@Rapptz These ones are premade for microwave.
 
No wonder it's bad.
 
guys, he really deserves stars for delivering
@Rapptz it's actually not that bad
oh forgot he plonked me
 
@BartekBanachewicz Go home Bartek you are drunk.
Oh wait. You are probably home.
 
9:24 PM
@Jeffrey he probably is home alone drunk :P
 
@ThePhD Did you show it to him (also this)
 
speaking of which, think I need to crack open a beer :D
 
@thecoshman you're making it look more sad
:(
 
@BartekBanachewicz that's the plan
 
@thecoshman join us on mumble instead of fucking around
 
9:26 PM
too impatient to root around for bottle opener, bash against table instead :P
I would, but I am painting, so not really in a talking mode
 
Painting as in art or as in "this wall needs a new coat of paint" ?
 
@BartekBanachewicz must be connection thing because according to mumble I sound fucking awesome
 
@Borgleader model... so the first one I guess
 
user142019
@StackedCrooked How do I run the C# compiler of Mono on Coliru?
 
user142019
mcs isn't there.
 
9:30 PM
apt-get install mono-mcs
 
@Nican copy pasted your command
 
Yeah... Not sure on Coliru.
 
it's installing
 
user142019
Oh, I see.
 
user142019
Ok. :P
 
9:30 PM
 
@StackedCrooked boobs
 
^ This was a GREAT anime.
 
@StackedCrooked is that a boy in drag on the far left?
 
School Rumble it's called.
 
user142019
+ mcs
Mono requires /proc to be mounted.
 
9:31 PM
Dammit.
 
@StackedCrooked fap fap fap?
 
@ThePhD Sure.
 
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
Yaaay. :D
 
Uh.. What does /proc needs to be mounted?
 
9:32 PM
I also have pictures of Tony and ThePhD on my phone
 
@Borgleader It's not very ecchi or anything. It's really a comedy series.
Search youtube for "School Rumble" clips and you'll see what I mean.
 
^ Driiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinks
 
@ThePhD seriously, real photo
 
that's about as real as you're going to get
 
9:34 PM
What, the three of us having a good time with our glasses? D:
That was totes real.
 
@BartekBanachewicz AFAIK, the only actual photos are on my phone, and Tony forbade me from posting the picture of him.
 
Don't post any pictures of me either. ;~;
 
@DeadMG I saw his face already, that's retarded
 
who, Tony's?
 
Xeo
9:37 PM
so?
 
we've talked on skype with cams.
 
Xeo
Changes nothing
 
Aw.
 
there's a big difference between a private skype and a public photo
 
^ this
 
9:37 PM
No answers for my question :D I guess it was rather specific though.
 
@DeadMG just mail it to me dammit
 
On the bright side, I am not making this up. I found a similar question.
 
@ThePhD Whose hand is on which side?
 
if you already have his picture, what do you want to see?
 
seriously, next time I'll be in UK I'll take photos of all of you, print on A1 and hang somewhere
@DeadMG your meetup photos?
 
9:38 PM
er, photo, singular, where the only feature is Tony's face
 
@ThePhD empty ones
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Probably a bad idea
 
@Xeo because scaring people or what?
@BartekBanachewicz your brain isn't as good as you thought as well. Please give explanation instead of just saying something that isn't informative. — user9000 4 mins ago
haha what a poor dude.
 
Xeo
In other news, new SciShow, yay
 
@ThePhD Seemed like fun.
 
9:42 PM
@Xeo SciShow?
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol
 
@Jeffrey Who gets drunk after a full glass of beer?
 
9:43 PM
@ThePhD coughs
 
The fun happens after the dirnking.
 
@BartekBanachewicz isnt that the same link?
 
I dunno. I'm after the drinking and there's little fun.
@Borgleader sorry, my remapped Alt key is sometimes still causing me trouble
 
@ThePhD if by "full" glass you mean the 1 liter glass and if the beer is the red Gordon, I do.
 
@BartekBanachewicz oh yeah i came across his website a few years back. He's insane
 
9:46 PM
Also beer mostly cause me to be sleepy rather than drunk
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked: Grisaia no Kajitsu English patch is finally out!! :)
 
@Borgleader he's the one that made that voxel rendering idea
 
@Xeo Alright.
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked Grab it over at fuwanovel.org
 
I don't know much about that VN. But I guess that's good news ::D
 
9:48 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Voxel rendering thats for doing uh... like GI right?
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked It's the highly praised first part of a three-part storyline
I've been waiting forever for this to get finished
 
@Borgleader mhm! totally. Epic Games uses that for UE4 and I am implementing it right now :D
 
@Xeo That patch seems a bit perverted?
 
Xeo
@FlorisVelleman It's an Eroge. vOv
 
I'm still waiting for something that will be deferred lighting. It's neat but doesn't handle transparency (you either have to do it forward which sucks if you have a bajillion lights, or have a limited amount of transparency buffers)
@BartekBanachewicz I saw a demo of that on geeks3d, I was thinking of adding that too but the performance of the demo gave me some pause
 
9:51 PM
Or use pixel-buffer linked lists (unordered access or w/e its called)
 
@Borgleader wait "waiting for something that will be deferred lighting." ?
 
s/be/beat/
 
@Borgleader the number of transparent objects on a typical scene is not that big usually and you can render them with a separate pass
anyway GI is by far superior to all that stuff
 
I was under the impression GI did not replace deferred lighting, but was added on top of
 
Ell
Hi guise
 
9:54 PM
@Borgleader it's certainly more complicated, so it can inhibit some traits. The thing is, light is calculated with volumetric raycasts instead of simple per-fragment lightpasses.
that's still deferred IIRC, but way more realistic.
 
@Borgleader that's the official nvidia demo from 2012
 
@Borgleader anyway it was presented on SIGGRAPH 2012 alongside elemental which was basing on it
 
Ell
Raytracing must be done on the cpu mustn't it?
 
9:57 PM
no
 
@Ell no!
compute shaders!
@Ell and 3D textures
and a lot of amazing techniques
that being said, I am implementing my quadtree raycasts on CPU right now (for 2d it doesn't really matter)
 
@Ell GPU Accelerated ray tracers: Blender's Cycles, Indigo, Lux Render, Octane Renderer
 
@Borgleader neither of them is realtime though
 
@BartekBanachewicz He never said realtime
 
@Borgleader meh, non-realtime raytracers are old as fuck
I want something that can be used in a game, not something that takes 2hrs to render a frame.
 
10:01 PM
If this does not impress you even slightly, theres something wrong with you
 
@Borgleader I does impress me, but that does impress me even more
 
@Xeo o_0 do we just watch all the same things on youtube?
 
Oh sure, I'm just saying you shouldnt dismiss all raytracers because the principle is "old"
They're also getting much quicker these days
 
@Borgleader oh but of course. They just don't lay in my interests directly
@Borgleader they won't match voxel-based renderers anytime soon anyway
 
I think octane does this thing where you can change material colors during rendering, without having to restart
 
10:05 PM
Less photorealism more gameplay kthx
7
 
@CatPlusPlus I'm a graphics developer, not a game developer
 
@CatPlusPlus yes please
 
@BartekBanachewicz Of course not, that's not the point. You won't get photorealism out of a game engine for a few more years either.
You'll get close but not quite
 
@Borgleader for dynamic scenes, indeed. For static scenes the quality shouldn't be really that worse.
because the biggest problem is in updating right now
 
Even for static scenes. Caustics and refractions are afaik really hard to do at least accurately.
 
10:08 PM
well it's also a question of content obviously
 
Ell
Caustics?
 
I'm sobering up, maybe I can finish those raycasts today :F
 
lol Mumble is displaying its overlay over my quadtree
 
Ell
10:11 PM
Haha
Tiled directional flow is teh best water
"Go with the flow" on yt
 
uh, I don't know how to merge quads together
 
Ell
I need to implement a* pathfinding
 
@Ell that's kinda easy
 
Ell
Or find a library
Yah
 
@Ell That's not terribly difficult
 
Xeo
10:15 PM
@BartekBanachewicz For when decreasing LoD?
 
Ell
I have done it before
 
I found it surprisingly difficult
 
Xeo
I found it relatively easy when we had pathfinding in class
 
Ell
But in c++. Whenever I attempt in a non value semantics language it all goes to shit
 
@Xeo and simply when you have filled all subnodes and there's no reason to keep them separate because it doesn't give you any more information and worsens perfomance
 
Ell
10:16 PM
I can never tell if I'm copying or not. I know the answer is "you're not copying" but I still get confused
 
Uh, congrats?
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz mh
Isn't it just taking the children of all 4 quads and putting them in the parent?
 
Ell
Who is the congrats to? O.o
 
@Xeo well, yeah.
7 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
I'm sobering up, maybe I can finish those raycasts today :F
take an appropriate correction basing on that
    TData val = current->nodes[0]->leaf;
    for (auto& node : current->nodes) {
        if (node->leaf != val)
            return;
    }
that will do one unnecessary computation, but I guess it doesn't matter, huh?
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz What is that even supposed to do?
 
10:19 PM
@Xeo check if all of the children have the same value, obviously
 
Burn some cycles.
 
Xeo
mh
 
It should be Either<Value,Children>
 
You might want to return a bool or somethin'.
 
@CatPlusPlus why should I? the code calling that will simply want to merge as much as possible, if it's not possible, well, whatever.
 
Xeo
10:21 PM
Wait, not exactly that
hmm
 
yeah, you fucked up
 
This probably won't short-circuit.
 
it definitely won't
 
Tehehe eager evaluation
 
Writing a mutator method in a way that it will always leave the object in a consistent and valid state in the event of an exception is tricky...
 
10:25 PM
STM.
 
You guys know there's std::all_of right?
iirc that short circuits
or well, at least early return
 
Cool, feedly doesn't have OPML export.
 
Xeo
@Rapptz For that, you first need a list of bools.
 
No..?
It takes in a predicate.
 
Xeo
10:29 PM
Unary
 
Oh, it does, cool.
 
    if (std::all_of(current->nodes.begin(), current->nodes.end(), [&val](SquareNodePtr n){ return n->leaf == val; })) {
    }
 
Xeo
Doesn't help when you want to express a == b && b == c && c == d && ... algorithmically.
 
He doesn't need that.
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz std::next(current->nodes.begin()), I guess
 
Ell
10:30 PM
Isn't that just all == a
 
@Xeo I thought about ++, but yeah, of course
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, I was thinking without needing to skip the first element manually
 
It fits his needs..?
 
Ell
Man I'm pissed off
My cycle buddy bailed on me
 
Xeo
I do wonder how to implement what I just mentioned nicely.
I got this, but eh. If standard had foldl1 that would be a bit prettier.
 
10:32 PM
@Xeo next is ok. You simply need a wrapper called all_equal that takes the value and creates a comparator that compares every one to it
 
Skipping first element doesn't buy you all that much.
 
Xeo
I guess
 
@CatPlusPlus it does if container always has 4 elements
 
Ell
Isn't the a == b && c == d ... The same as std::all_of([]{ i == a})
Excuse syntax
 
@BartekBanachewicz Not really.
 
10:33 PM
@Ell it is, and I am using it now
 
Xeo
Still wondering about x(a, b) <y> x(b, c) <y> x(c, d)
 
@CatPlusPlus I don't have profiler results ATM, so I can't really argue
 
4 comparisons vs 3 comparisons, come on.
It won't even register on the profiler.
 
@CatPlusPlus unless you do a lot of such merges
 
And you save 1 nanosecond on each? Yeah, I guess if you do a billion of them every second.
 
10:35 PM
this part is a part of main bottleneck vOv
 
It's a micro-optimisation.
 
2 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
@CatPlusPlus I don't have profiler results ATM, so I can't really argue
 
Xeo
Hah, got it. std::inner_product, kinda.
std::inner_product(std::next(v.begin()), v.end(), v.begin(), true,
    std::logical_and<bool>(), std::equal_to<int>());
 
std::equal_to<decltype(v)::value_type>() FTFY
teehee, I'm so drunk I'm correcting Xeo's C++ code
 
std::equal_to<>() FTFY FTFY
 
Xeo
10:40 PM
Eh, my test code had std::vector<int>, so whatever
 
Ell
Hmm what shop in UK sells cheapest vodka
 
Xeo
[](==), suckers.
 
@Ell Probably Tesco or Sainsbury's.
 
Xeo
std::inner_product(..., [](&&), [](==));
 
10:40 PM
@CatPlusPlus Those two are not mutually exclusive.
 
Ell
Or aldi maybe. I'll check
 
oh, yeah
 
if you have a local poundshop they are pretty good too
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah but I care only about one of 'em.
 
10:41 PM
now I really got why your proposal is so awsum :3
 
@Ell Don't be a cheapskate.
 
@Ell be sure to get Polish vodka though
 
Ell
I'm only drinking it to get drunk, I don't need good vodka!
Also I have no money so I have to be cheapskate
 
@Ell if you are to come and drink here, you'll gotta learn that that's one thing you don't save on
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that's plusgood.
 
@Ell why do you need to get drunk?
 
Xeo
10:44 PM
@CatPlusPlus: Wasn't there some Haskell function that iterated over [1..5] with a function f and results in [f 1 2, f 2 3, f 3 4, f 4 5]?
 
:)
 
Ell
@Jeffrey I don't need to, but its summer! Woo!
 
@Xeo Don't recall.
 
> Bartek Banachewicz is listening to Queen on Spotify.
Oh dear.
 
> (a drink known in Polish as tatanka or szarlotka; known in the UK as a Frisky Bison;[5] and in the US as a Polish Kiss).
@LightnessRacesinOrbit what?
 
I recognise this code. Care to link us to it? Attribution is required when you copy SO content. — Lightness Races in Orbit 20 secs ago
Is this facetious or do you really not know where it's from?
 
Of course I know where it's from. The point is that the OP should have included a link in his question.
 
@Rapptz ...
 
Yeah I'm not disagreeing.
 
10:47 PM
I've added the link myself, to prove that I'm not ignorant. Kinda fucks with my point, though ;-(
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you've shown a sign of weakness
 
@BartekBanachewicz Exactly
Last time I managed to do it quite cunningly and save face
 
Ell
I wonder if they will deliver alcohol to your house
 
@Ell Check local poundshops.
 
Ell
Will do
Next time I'm nearby
 

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