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7:00 PM
@Ell 0.8521 at least.
I don't know, it's a completely different language group than English.
 
@Ell oh
 
#somanyabstractions
@Ell you can safely assume you will use only english in Poland
 
Ell
oh cool
 
what, you coming here?
 
Ell
No
I'm just wondering about going there
 
7:05 PM
I visited Poznan once.
It was a very cool place IMO.
I loved the old communist apartment buildings intermingled with the modern.
 
Yeah everyone does.
 
that's pretty much everywhere
std::stack<foo> bottle;
while(!bottle.empty()) {
    fun();
}
 
user142019
Argh.
 
surprisingly, but some people still use CPUs which don't support SSE2. And VC++2012 use /arch:SSE2 by default
 
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How can I tell YouTube to default to highest quality available by default?
 
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7:10 PM
This isn't 1994.
 
@rightfold write them a mail
 
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It's a primitive piece of crap.
 
@rightfold Yousabletubefix
 
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Yeah that doesn't work.
 
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7:12 PM
"Always play HD even when not in fullscreen"
 
Bug @Mysticial to fix the player.
 
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Why isn't this there.
 
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@Mysticial fix YouTube.
 
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Also spacebar to toggle pause without focus on the player.
 
Quadrant nextNeighborQuadrant(Quadrant q, Direction d) {
this is getting more and more ridiculous
 
7:14 PM
Neighbour, you savage.
 
12 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
#somanyabstractions
 
Ell
Why is that an abstraction? o.O
 
Uh that's not really an abstraction?
Or I don't know what you're referring to.
 
shut up.
 
user142019
shut up yourself.
 
7:15 PM
if I was a C programmer I'd spent 4 hours debugging bit operations and I'd be done
 
user142019
> As an example, allocate 1GB of memory, zero it, and crash:
 
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What a great example of how to use libffi.
 
Every library should have crash() function.
 
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Every library has a crash() function, but with a different name. They're often called "functions with bugs".
 
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7:19 PM
I want Get for strict bytestrings. :<
 
Maybe somebody posted this already.
 
blergh contests
 
> C++ inventer
inventor, peasant.
 
I would suck at programming competitions.
I need too much time to think.
 
I love his hair
It's so ~~sexy~~
 
7:26 PM
Hehe, convoluted thinking. I wonder if he is referring to things like AbstractSingletonFactoryBean.
 
@CatPlusPlus just pass an invalid pointer or reference.
lib::fn(*(X*)1);
 
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Huh.
 
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Why is ForeignPtr exported by Prelude.
 
It's not.
 
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7:31 PM
Oh wait, it's not. I accidentally defined it as a data constructor.
 
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And where did Hoogle Instant go. :V
 
hm
I think I will use Either<Children, Value>, though perhaps Either<Cat, Children> is more funny
 
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Arrgrgggh stupid Hackage. Everything is broken today.
 
// if any of the children exists
// go deeper inside
3
 
Whatever doubles your boat~
 
7:39 PM
@BartekBanachewicz sounds dirty and perverted\
 
they're not even that good
 
Tomorrow's going to be my 2^7th consecutive day online ;_;
I'll have to wait another 2^7 days to get to 2^8 :<
 
7:48 PM
It's somewhat valid given the question.
 
Well not really. Because unions are in the c language too? That's like tagging a question that only uses the c library with C++ because "it will compiler with a C++ compiler"
 
Anybody here familiar with Netbeans?
It is messing up again :\
 
I hate netbeans
 
What are your reasons?
 
"background tasks"
 
7:53 PM
Dont Down Vote Please xD like that would stop anyone
Oh and its the guy who copied @Xeo's answer earlier
 
i asked this already, ppl didnt know the answer really, so i asked on SO, it got closed, so maybe somebody online now knows: what are the rules when to use emplace* and when to use push_*/insert ? Im not talking just about nonmovable/noncpyable types but in general
 
@Borgleader Seems like it did :P
 
@Borgleader sucks so much
my newb mergesort was much better
 
Are IDE questions on topic on SO, or is it more of programmers?
 
Depends what kind
@BartekBanachewicz which part, the merge sort part or the threaded part
 
7:58 PM
What kind would you classify as on topic?
 
None of them belong on Programmers.
 
@Borgleader my part was non-pointer-ish
oh I got a reply from the OGLPlus author @thecoshman @Ell
 
Didn't stop us from closing it :P
 
@Borgleader This could've been another piece of gold though haha
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz Oh? I didn't know you contacted them
 
8:03 PM
@Borgleader The guy is attempting concurrent merge sort without learning about raii first.
 
@StackedCrooked Shit will hit the fan
 
It's like a brave warrior charging into a platwalser.
 
We are so going to get serial-downvoted for this
 
And they'll get overturned
 
@BartekBanachewicz meanwhile your stack is growing
 
8:07 PM
@Ell him, actually. He replied really nicely
 
Ell
What did you ask about?
 
@Ell DSA
> Yes, direct state access is currently underused in OGlplus
 
@BartekBanachewicz that made surprisingly little sense. I'm refreshed by it. New levels of senselessness suddenly seem real possibilities!
 
Huh... that question got 2 reopen votes
this is going to be another croissants thing isnt it?
 
18/1/9 with Cait.
Bam bam bam
 
8:14 PM
Dat Cait
 
I came
 
:cripes:
 
Also Vi.
 
@sehe :D
@EtiennedeMartel she doesn't look like Vi at all
where's the pink hair dammit?
 
8:16 PM
@BartekBanachewicz That kinda pink.
 
@EtiennedeMartel pfff, that's lame pink
 
I've been learning French since 6th grade and I still have problems understanding quickly. (I have to take my time reading to understand what's written ;p)
Nowadays, my school starts teaching kids French in Preschool
 
also Fat Bottomed Girls is an amazing song
 
@EtiennedeMartel dafuq
 
8:20 PM
like amazing
 
@EtiennedeMartel The Fondler?
 
@BartekBanachewicz That guy really wants his question re-opened. He edited it and now it's "Please review" it's almost worse now
 
by the way, Matus is amazing
he just posted a video of his octree
 
Matus?
 
the author of OGLPlus
 
8:22 PM
ITT Bartek has a new crush.
 
actually it's MatúÅ¡
 
Seems Brazilian
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz where?
 
@ThePhD pff, not crush; actually someone who writes decent code
 
I have this Brazilian friend called Mateus :p
 
8:23 PM
@Ell on his G+
@Magtheridon96 he's from Slovakia
so my neighbour :3
 
Close enough ;___;. This Earth is only 6371km in radius either way~
 
it's near the border
 
I'm really starting to like Servant x Service. The conversations are hilariously silly.
 
I could easily visit him :v
 
Are you far from cat?
 
8:25 PM
@StackedCrooked a few hundred clicks
 
@CatPlusPlus could use some days outside the basement on the beach in the North :P
 
@Borgleader It's funny how culture is changing.
 
but I don't think that he's so willing to come up here
 
@BartekBanachewicz You've seen him?
 
8:26 PM
2
A: How can I define two inter dependant classes, preferably in the same header file?

caminoNo need for class definition when declare a function. class A; class B{ A function(); }; class A{ B member; };

Why does this compile
 
@StackedCrooked nope. I'd happily host him though
 
Yes I just love being bored to death and also burning to death.
 
@Borgleader Why wouldn't it?
 
UV or UB which is worse?
 
8:27 PM
but fails if you replace ` A function();` with ` A function() { return A(); }`
 
@CatPlusPlus come on, we'll bring mobile gaming devices
 
You can bring your laptop.
 
@Borgleader it's perfectly ok
 
@Rapptz I'm getting return type 'class A' is incomplete, as soon as I add a definition to the function
 
@StackedCrooked I don't have a personal laptop; only the work one
 
8:28 PM
@Borgleader Viola. THEN DON'T DO THAT
 
@Borgleader because to declare something you don't need complete type? :V
 
Add the definition in the cpp file
@BartekBanachewicz you need typeid though
 
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Hmm.
 
@Borgleader Yes, you don't need complete type for declaration but you do for definition
 
8:29 PM
OIC
 
you also do for calling and such
 
@Borgleader Normally you can't. (Unless you want to mess with a combination of ADL and templates. I posted a question recently. But you don't wanna go there :P)
 
> dufam .. a dufam ze to nebude 3. svetova vojna :P
lol. Slovakian is really a lot like Polish
 
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Just <$> (uses evalStack head) <* (evalStack %= tail) ← lenses and applicatives are wonderful.
 
Same group.
 
8:31 PM
@CatPlusPlus yeah. you can basically speak Polish in Slovakia and be understood
 
I'd expect a lot of false friends.
 
:F stop being negative.
stop!
also mumble (because I'm drunk again)
 
It'd be a bit weird.
 
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:10887133 F# uses >> and <<.
 
8:32 PM
I concur
 
`g <compose> f is also a bit weird.
 
come on @rightfold I want to hear your pony voice
 
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f >> g = f ∘ g
f << g = g ∘ f
 
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@StackedCrooked Use ∘.
 
But that's not an operator.
 
8:33 PM
@rightfold That should be reversed.
 
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@BartekBanachewicz aheeeehah
 
f(g()) => compose(f, g)
 
@rightfold I don't recall you being on mumble ever
 
Oh, you mean g <∘> f (Now it looks like a fantasy science fiction magic gemstone that binds functionalities together.)
 
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@CatPlusPlus (>>) : ('T1 -> 'T2) -> ('T2 -> 'T3) -> 'T1 -> 'T3
 
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8:34 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I have been on Mumble multiple times.
 
@rightfold then perhaps you're avoiding me :(
 
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I'm not.
 
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It's purely coincidental.
 
or maybe you just were ther under weird nicks, dunno.
 
@rightfold Yeah, that's left-to-right composition.
 
8:35 PM
anyway writing is hard when you're drunk
 
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Then what should be reversed? :V
 
mumbling to the mic is much easier, hence mumble
 
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I'm confused. Help.
 
f >> g = g ∘ f
 
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Ohh right I see whoops.
 
8:36 PM
-- | Right-to-left composition
(<<<) :: Category cat => cat b c -> cat a b -> cat a c
(<<<) = (.)

-- | Left-to-right composition
(>>>) :: Category cat => cat a b -> cat b c -> cat a c
f >>> g = g . f
 
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Also C++ needs more |> and <|.
 
@rightfold +1
 
Nice. Two almost completely disjunct, but both quality answers by loungers here stackoverflow.com/questions/17901826/…
 
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As well as every other language.
 
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Use + for function composition in C++.
 
@BartekBanachewicz try typing
 
Try jumping.
 
@CatPlusPlus inb4 from the window
 
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try { goto hello; } catch (...) { hello:; }
 
8:37 PM
longjmp
 
@sehe I am totally still coding
I've nearly finished the raycast
 
@Borgleader No.
 
@BartekBanachewicz where's our motive to facilitating your logorheia?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Do you always code totally still?
 
@StackedCrooked Only racist code
 
8:38 PM
@CatPlusPlus Huh... I thought the parenthesis had no effect. Welp, learn something new everyday.
 
@sehe too many hard long words
 
Hey Zoidberg let's implement Haskell for .NET.
 
@StackedCrooked much improved girlfriend?
@BartekBanachewicz I knew
 
@sehe Actually, they decided to keep some distance.
 
@CatPlusPlus IronHaskell?
 
8:39 PM
See them standing back to back and 2 meters apart. The guy standing his arms crossed and the girl is sitting away from him.
 
he's incognito.
Watch for people with vacuum cleaners
 
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@CatPlusPlus ok
 
@StackedCrooked nah. they're facing with their equivalent poles and not even then they repel each other. They're a better match than magnet!
 
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Wherein?
 
What's wrong with F#?
 
8:41 PM
another <hicks> beer!
 
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@Rapptz It's fuglyer than C++.
 
It's not Haskell.
 
@sehe But they have not figured out that this is what's causing the friction between them.
 
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Oh, you want two functions that call each other? Let's require you to use rec and and to define them.
 
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It also sucks at polymorphism.
 
8:42 PM
@StackedCrooked it's come between them, but maybe it's for the best. It's unclear however, which of them gets evaluated first, as a part of their relationship
 
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Still my favourite .NET language though. :P
 
My eyes are getting misty.
That sometimes happens when I use the computer for a long time.
 
hmmmm
 
Maybe they are drying out or something.
 
cpx
Bit defender requires a restart after update.
 
8:46 PM
I forgot to enable f.lux. Damn what a difference.
F# is totally not the same as Ocaml IIRC.
 
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Indeed.
 
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F# is based on OCaml but it's not OCaml.
 
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Just like C++ is based on C but it's not C.
 
more loungers on mumble
 
Can you use F# on Linux?
 
8:48 PM
MOAR
 
user142019
Yes.
 
Without doing weird things?
 
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The F# compiler is open-source and runs on Mono.
 
user142019
It works just fine.
 
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8:49 PM
Let's implement untyped lambda calculus instead of Haskell for .NET.
 
Ok, I'll do the lambda and you do the calculus.
 
:D
3 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
more loungers on mumble
com eon
 
real men use TS
 
@A.H. I use TS for gaming
 
Thre are many mono packages. (Not all of them are mono though.)
 
user142019
8:52 PM
> libghc-monoid-transformer-dev
 
user142019
Oh, not all of them. :V
 
TIL there's a DVCS called monotone.
 
@StackedCrooked linus hates it
 
user142019
Linus hates everything except Linux, Git and Subsurface.
 
He likes his MacBook Air.
And he uses Google Plus.
What a hipster.
 
user142019
8:59 PM
I wonder what rms uses.
 
user142019
Besides parentheses and Emacs.
 
Some old junk.
 

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