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user142019
1:00 PM
A book about Unicode.
 
@thecoshman It's not that simple as saying "go and play that 320bmp solo live". "And practice more if you need to"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I am afraid I can't reveal that, any information will reduce the awesomeness.
 
are you implying they should play slower or easier songs?
 
user142019
New battery pack.
 
user142019
Oil.
 
1:00 PM
A leatherbound version of The Standard
 
user142019
A picture of litb.
 
^ ahahahah
 
@BartekBanachewicz I am saying they should record two seconds burst of insane guitar and stitch it together as if they can actually play that well.
@TonyTheLion I could, but I will not ¬_¬ I trust no one
 
@thecoshman that's called production.
 
@thecoshman flips table
 
user142019
1:01 PM
¬_¬ ¬_¬
 
@BartekBanachewicz no, production is recording a track
@TonyTheLion ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
 
@thecoshman do you really think other bands record all songs as a whole?
 
@rightfold I own a printed copy of the spec, and tchrist's book already :|
 
@BartekBanachewicz track at a time, perhaps stitching a few tracks together, but yes. they would record entire play throughs. Well, they might put a short bit in if the short part needs to be better.
 
@thecoshman and that's what's being done, because the goal is the ultimate recording at the end
 
1:04 PM
@BartekBanachewicz you seem to be failing to see the difference between recording a few version of the track, and recording short 2 bar bursts
 
@Xeo coliru's choking on it too, but that's only because the evaluation of get produces int& references
So I need to remove_cv on them and it looks like it'll be right as rain.
... I hope.
 
Xeo
I don't think I even want to know anymore wtf you're doing.
5
 
Got it.
 
lol
 
user142019
Damn.
 
1:06 PM
He wants infix functions
Or something similar to it..
Something about "chaining functions together"
 
user142019
Konrad wrote an obscure library for infix functions.
 
ooh lemme see.
googles
 
Xeo
@rightfold a %foo% b?
 
devblog.arnebrasseur.net/2013-04-plain-text see who's frist in comments :) (also, mildly interesting post)
 
user142019
 
user142019
1:08 PM
@Xeo Yes.
 
user142019
@R.MartinhoFernandes Terrence Andrew Davis
 
Who the fuck is that?
 
A very... interesting... person.
 
1:11 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes ...?
@R.MartinhoFernandes huh
 
@rightfold That's actually pretty damn cool.
 
Ah, found the story qaa.ath.cx/LoseThos.html
It makes me sad. Fuck, now I'm leaking.
 
What? Your last 5 messages are so weird.
 
His OS was called, in chronological order: "LoseThos", "SparrowOS", and now "TempleOS". Each time mostly just renamed, and each time posted on osdev.org and banned after a short while.
 
He's been banned from various sites.
 
1:21 PM
Yeah, I know.
 
Oh he was praised on reddit a while back
 
is he doing anything against the 'rules' of these sites?
 
Sure he was.
@thecoshman Well, look at the post Martinho linked and Ctrl+F for "CIA".
 
@thecoshman He's schizophrenic and tends to start rambling about... stuff.
 
1:23 PM
Hrm, it ain't there.
 
> I bought a new machine. ATA PIO didn't work. (Simplest way to access a hard drive is ATA PIO or ATAPI for CDROM. You just need the right port addresses.) VMware removed support for PC speaker. God's been talking and saying it's His temple. Fuck-it! I'm gonna tell them how it's gonna be.

Talk to God in the AfterEgypt App. The CIA wants a fight.
 
I was almost sure there is "CIA" somewhere on that site.
Well, he is totally sure that UEFI thingy, dropping legacy port IO and stuff like that is a huge conspiracy against him, personally, done by CIA and similar.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :(
 
@Griwes ...and there you have a nutshell description of schizophrenia (which, for those who didn't realize it, has essentially nothing to do with multiple personality disorder).
 
RIP my ubuntu :(
 
1:27 PM
What happened to your Ubuntu?
 
@JerryCoffin yeah, where did that idea come from?
 
I have to rip it apart
My machine needs to be hooked up to our demonic overlord
 
@thecoshman Hearing voices?
 
which requires total disk wipe
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes perhaps...
 
Xeo
1:28 PM
@ThePhD Rereading that message, it may have sounded harsher than intended. The thing is, you're constantly rambling about unconnected stuff that nobody here has any idea about, because you kinda assume we know what code you're writing right now and what your goal is - but you never make the goal clear (imo). Get your head together, be clear about what you mean and want, and then we should be able to talk.
 
@JerryCoffin also, it is scary as fuck... :/
 
@thecoshman MPD is mostly caused by people being tortured. There was a theory (that seemed to make sense in at least one case) that shizophrenia was so awful that it could lead to MPD.
 
@JerryCoffin huh, that MPD is mostly due to torture is news to me.
 
@jalf Definitely unpleasant (and the people I worked with had relatively mild cases).
 
@JerryCoffin didn't it used to mean that at one point?
 
1:31 PM
@thecoshman "Mostly" is probably wrong -- but that is one cause.
@TonyTheLion No, at least not as far as I Know (but most people have treated the two as essentially synonymous for decades).
 
aka, regex is a more complete language then wide :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz Just put a new disk in. Once the devils from hell have installed their arcane spells and evil artifacts, install your old disk as well.
 
gcd too eh?
 
@JerryCoffin Yea, and until now, I always thought that Schizophrenia was multiple personalities, but it seems not.
 
Can't a member function pointer ReturnType (Class::*)(ArgTypes...) be converted to a function pointer taking a class object pointer as first argument, as is common in std::bind usages, ReturnType (*)(Class*, ArgTypes)? — rubenvb 12 secs ago
 
1:33 PM
@MartinJames I don't have any spare one atm.
 
@rubenvb No.
 
also, once this is hooked up, I will be able to change os by a few clicks and going for a coffee
it's automated.
 
@TonyTheLion Lots of people think that. One of those strange misunderstandings that just persists.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes then how does std::bind work on member functions?
 
@rubenvb It does not make function pointers. It uses op.*/op->.
 
1:34 PM
to be fair, reading most of 'templeOS's comments on redit, it is like reading classic trolling. I can see why most sites would ban him, with out knowing otherwise, je just comes across as a troll.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes OK, can't std::function do the same?
 
@rubenvb Yes, but it doesn't give you function pointers...
 
ok true enough.
the object pointed to needs to be stored somewhere.
Comment deleted because unsalvageable
 
@TonyTheLion Nah. Schizophrenia is basically believing your delusions and hallucinations are real despite being shown that they aren't. Dissociative Identity Disorder is basically just having multiple identities in your head that you feel like you can relate to or are real.
 
Could we stop talking about serious stuff like that. It makes me feel like swearing at the brokenness of web browsers would be inappropriate, and I really feel like cursing at browsers right now... :(
 
1:40 PM
@Rapptz there is a case on wiki with a guy who had 15 or so identities.
 
sublimetext2: uses 800 MB to display a 150MB binary file.
 
@jalf go for it
 
Granted, it's displayed in hex.
 
@thecoshman Yes, that's a problem :(
 
still, two bytes a character is not 800/150 = 5,3.
 
1:40 PM
@rubenvb yeah... 650mb for a text editor is not bad, don't forget the editor itself will take up RAM
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Y'know, I wonder - doesn't reinterpret_cast guarantee roundtripping as long as you cast back to the original type?
And if you use that with member pointers...
I'm getting confuzzled
 
reinterpret_cast only works with pointers.
 
Xeo
mhm
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes based on my track record though, I best stop discussing it, someone will end up getting upset
 
yeah, (member) function pointers are not normal pointers
 
Xeo
1:42 PM
true enough
 
Oh, no, ptmfs as well.
But you cannot convert those to pointers; only within their own little universe.
 
Xeo
Ya, but I mean if you cast between a member pointer of a multi-inheritence class and a member pointer of a single-inheritence class, you should get the original pointer back out at the end
 
hmmm cookies
 
Xeo
and if the sizes vary, that can't happen
 
1:49 PM
@Xeo I don't think there's even that much guarantee.
 
There is.
@Xeo Do you want to ask it yourself?
 
Then the MSDN article is quite confusing.
 
Xeo
I also think some libraries rely on that, by storing some member pointers in a generic void (Dummy::*)() pointer
 
Ha.
Nah, doesn't work.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes No time right now, go ahead.
 
1:51 PM
Hmm, maybe it does.
 
first class functions would be able to solve this conundrum.
pun intended.
 
member functions are evaluated left-to-right correct?
 
My brain is like fried
 
function argument evaluation is undefined.
 
1:53 PM
lol, just saw this comment on a folder in Google Docs Crap that <SO> has decided to litter my sexy sleek gdocs with :(
 
AFAIR.
 
I meant myclass.member1().member2().member3()
would that be called in order?
 
@Rapptz It's been unstable since I reinstalled the VPS and upgraded to newer version of ruby. I still need to figure out to fix it. Currently there's a script that restarts Coliru if it crashes. So if you refresh after a few seconds it should be up a gain.
 
There's no other way...
 
@rubenvb because that is tripping me up for some reason
 
1:53 PM
Is there a container class Stream or something like IOStream ?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah see tired
 
@Rapptz obviously, how else could the compiler know what to call e.g. member2 on?
 
That's a trick you can use in lazy functional languages to get sequencing.
 
@Darkyen streambuf has iterators.
 
(I haven't slept today)
 
1:54 PM
or at least iostream itself does.
 
user1182183
well shit happens exclusively to me
 
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Q: Explanation of C++11 5.1.1.3 [expr.prim.general]?

user1131467Pretty much the whole of the second half of paragraph 5.1.1.3 [expr.prim.general] of the C++ standard has me stumped. Consequently I am not sure if the following are separate questions, or are the same question (forgive me if they are separate and unrelated).... If a declaration declares a me...

 
user1182183
and it took very long to compile xd
 
@rubenvb streambuf
vs vector based read-write, will it be much performance difference ?
 
1:55 PM
K, for some given type R(C::*)(A...) the set of possible values is finite and known statically, no?
 
@ThePet ಠ_ಠ
 
@Darkyen I don't even know what that means. Also: measure.
 
@Rapptz I know the feeling ...
Quite literally :P
 
user1182183
spent a whole night and day on preparing the mongoDB C++driver for comilation, compiling it, bam, forgot it'set to "DEBUG"
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes ya
well, maybe no
 
1:56 PM
I pull it off quite often but there are moments when my brain stops working
So I ask dumb things
 
Xeo
DLL and shit
 
I'm still not confident, but let's roll with it for a moment.
 
@rubenvb right now i am using a vector<uint8_t> to store file in memory, will porting it to streambuf be a speed wise improvement or doesnt matter ?
 
Xeo
with new derived classes added
So yeah, it's not known
unless C happens to be final, I guess
 
@Darkyen Measure. Also: implementation dependent. Also: what to do with huge ass files?
 
1:57 PM
The huge ass files are audio data, compressed/uncompressed
 
@Xeo you have fun+offset where fun is known, and offsets are an implementation quantity.
 
if encoded it has to decode them then it has to mix them, and then provide them to back to libav(ffmpeg) for encoding
 
@Darkyen libffmpeg or executable ffmpeg?
 
libffmpeg
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes all possible offsets aren't known at compilation time, though. Not sure what you're on about, anyways
 
1:59 PM
@Xeo They are: it's an implementation quantity.
If the implementation says "max object size 10", there are only 10 valid offsets.
 
@Xeo aren't vtables a compile-time thing?
that is used at runtime?
@Darkyen I say try it and see.
 

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