« first day (939 days earlier)      last day (4012 days later) » 

12:00 AM
@sehe It is not unreasonable for a variety of reasons.
Which is why it should have been erased_function or something.
 
@ThePhD What problem?
 
std::function<B(A)> is not a -> b! Well it is, but without the type inference.
 
@LucDanton Mmm. I see. Maybe I'm missing the arcane details too :/
That's what makes it so easy to empathize with the OP not seeing the obvious?
 
@sehe I mean from the perspective of a newcomer. (btw notice the rep and that's possibly the third question ever of the OP.)
 
12:02 AM
@ThePhD Ah. Ugh.
 
@sehe I don't find it obvious at all. Those questions crop up all the time. It's a weird intersection of conversion, overload resolution, and deduction rules. Those things are hard on their own, and here they interact with one another.
 
@LucDanton Anyways, perhaps you could (have) dodge(d) some of the "heat" by rephrasing:
> Here are some common scenarios, and reasons why std::function is not the most appropriate for them
 
On MSVC, it'll print out Milky instead of Moving.
Or just throw an error because value_type doesn't exist on ManBreast.
 
@ThePhD Bad example.
 
I don't get what's wrong with that. Honestly.
 
12:03 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Is it really?
 
@ThePhD As is, it SFINAEs the template ctor away so it obviously won't be picked (MSVC probably sucks at SFINAE, though)
 
@LucDanton There's nothing wrong. It just makes it easy to "shoot the messenger" by attracting attention to your opinion. It's not your particular opinion, really, is it. It's based on fact. :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, I'm trying to fix the MSVC problem of not being able to SFINAE, so. xD (It does suck at SFINAE)
 
I've never been able to convince anyone out of using std::function<Sig> in interfaces I think. To me that's a red flag that my 'arguments' are too soft.
 
@ThePhD You still have to fix the problem of the code being broken (see my fixed example above)
 
12:05 AM
@LucDanton So, no I don't suggest you should (have) reword(ed) that. I merely wanted to say you "could" perhaps have used the clever rhetorics to shield yourself from personal ... attack?
 
(OTOH I haven't found anyone to convince me that std::function in interfaces is useful.)
 
Anyway, by now you should know that unrestricted template ctors are evil. flamingdangerzone.com/cxx11/2012/06/05/is_related.html
 
@sehe lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I know that, but still. :c
 
Hence the word "dodge".
 
12:06 AM
static_cast to the rescue ?
 
That still has the broken ctor around...
 
@sehe How can you tell your version will be accepted though? It's one thing to notice (after the fact :p) what has aggravated someone, but what do I replace it with?
 
It's the template Tit ctor that is broken, not the ManBreast one.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I wonder why that would cause issues!
 
You only fixed one instance of it.
 
12:07 AM
Should I do some forceful std::enable_if templating then?
 
@LucDanton I find myself routinely removing "I think" from statements in SO posts. Likewise, I routinely edit away the opening "No." or "No, you can't". Appearing negative or having a hint of potential subjectiveness can easily cost one an initial downvote. And you know what happens when an answer sits at the initial -1: the rest of the flock copies...
 
Dunno. Maybe. Depends on stuff.
Probably.
 
@LucDanton Shall I suggest an edit?
 
Damn, I thought making subjectivity explicit was a boon. I don't want anyone to think anything I say is definitive :/
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Why do I get the feeling you're talking about ThePhD's brand of juvenile identifier naming?
 
12:09 AM
@sehe No thanks. I really value the tentative nature of my answers.
 
@LucDanton It's not definitive when you say "and some reasons why X". It's probably a bit pretentious to go and say "Here are the reasons why X"
 
I never had trouble with "You cannot/should not do X. I suggest you do Y instead" answers...
 
@LucDanton :) Me too. Yet I learn to tone down on the wording that invites debate. :(
 
I don't think I've ever done too much of the 'no you can't' style of answers btw. Other than the classical "Short version: you can't; long version: here's why, in lavish details" for instance.
(I do that in comments.)
@sehe But I don't say that here.
Do I?
 
@LucDanton Yeah I've learned to favour the latter. I think I gravitated towards "Yes: here's how" and "No. But see here: ..." answers in my repwhore "FGITW" period.
 
12:12 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes The ManBreast has been tamed: coliru.stacked-crooked.com/…
 
@LucDanton No. To me you say "Here are some reasons why I think that X". I think (lol) you could skip the I think. But hey. Enough about what I think. Wink wink.
 
Let's hope MSVC can understand the same thing.
 
That is, I deliberately avoided saying in the answer "don't use std::function in signatures"; I wanted to convey "don't use std::function in signatures in those situations".
 
@ThePhD My guess is not. Will be happy to be wrong.
Win-win.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I have never even hesitated with Y/X answering. Too bad if I don't hit the mark. I just hope I help someone
 
12:13 AM
@sehe I meant the 'here are the reasons why X' bit.
 
@LucDanton Yeah. Lack of nuance is certainly not a problem in your answer(s)
(dat double negation. I hope you don't misread it :/)
 
Damn. Writing answers was nothing like that a year ago. I don't think this is going to help with my motivation.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes MSVC can't understand it ~_~
What do I do now? :c
 
@LucDanton Well, or you can just ignore this OP. He's an entitled brat leeching for help. Or close enough.
 
What's the appropriate answer? The question in and of itself is well asked, and is valued by the community. You can't downvote comments. Comment discussions derail anything and everything, lead to further bile and anger.
@sehe That +9 though.
 
12:17 AM
@LucDanton But it's perfectly fine to just ignore the comments. I think Flexo did a good job on that latest Meta Post about the 'telkitty affair'
 
@LucDanton It's not about the comments, indeed.
 
Old style?
 
@LucDanton I hesitated to downvote the Q for the bad attitude shown. But I realized I would by extension hurt the helpful answers. So I decided not to.
 
@sehe Looking at my recent answers, that's not a strategy that pays I think.
 
12:18 AM
@LucDanton ? What do you mean?
You mean they don't get appreciated?
 
-1
Q: Translate the postorder in C++

Osagie IkikhuemeI send you two question on bellow. Please help me. 1.Translate the post-order traversal algorithm into programming code (C++, etc.) 2. d. Provide the pseudo-code of the algorithm to remove or delete any node in the BST, while still maintaining the resultant structure as a BST. e. Provide the ...

Downvote to hell and beyond (also VTC)
 
They seem to be of no use to anyone.
That is, I rarely get comments these days, except for the vindictive kind by people that ask questions and don't want help.
 
heeeeeeeeeeello
 
user142019
hi
 
Arrgh.
 
12:21 AM
I'm accustomed to a little bit of back and forth with the OP to improve the answer (and by extension the question) normally. Is that not done anymore?
 
I can't make this behave with MSVC =[
 
dark beer best beer
also rain
 
@LucDanton Mmm. I can't really relate. Because I post only Spirit answers, really, and even then excessively Y/X answers (lol: answered with Spirit) or just pointers on vague questions. I don't know whether the 'general atmosphere' has become tougher/colder.
@LucDanton Perhaps you ace them a little too much :|
 
I avoid XY like the plague, isn't that more of a guilty pleasure to you? :p
 
Yes
 
12:23 AM
I have lurked almost exclusively for the past few months, so I can't really tell.
 
@sehe Yeah right. Obviously my problem is that my answers are just too great!
 
So I guess I'm the only one drunk
 
Too adequate :>
 
@sehe Hah, I could tell.
 
You suck
 
12:24 AM
My forecast of the moment: sucks.
 
Also ahahaha that guy on the starboard
 
Back to !
 
Which is I one of the reasons I stopped carrying that tab around.
 
christ...
 
12:25 AM
I will also send on a hike once I get the badge. It's all crap.
 
I hate you, MSVC. =/
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I've removed it as well but I've been compulsively looking at it. I fooled myself thinking it wasn't so bad a few weeks ago.
 
@LucDanton Always has been one of my quirks. I'm also mighty idealist. For the same reason I'm probably underpaid, don't hand in expenses, don't rage when people cut me short in traffic (unless it's with my kids) etc.
@CatPlusPlus Irony stars FTW
 
I did a few XY in the past, sometimes it worked too (I think?)! Nowadays though I would not be looking forward to the 'extended abuse in comments (go to chat?)'.
 
@LucDanton Yeah. The only one who goes further in X/Y is MooingDuck, AFAICT. He's just... unstoppable sometimes. But even he has cooled down. It must be the marital status...
 
12:28 AM
I hugged a girl and you're answering crappy :stackoverflow: questions
 
@sehe He mentioned work before.
 
@CatPlusPlus You WAT!?
 
Reevaluate your life
 
user142019
@CatPlusPlus Both are terrible mistakes so it doesn't matter.
 
I think most people here have hugged girls.
 
12:28 AM
@CatPlusPlus Are you on a contest with DemCodeLines to see who hooks up with a girl first or wat?
 
no i'm drunk
 
Most people here have bugged girls
 
And what the fuck someone is ringing the door thingy
 
user142019
Few people here have fucked girls
 
@Borgleader Unfair advantage
@rightfold What makes you think that?
 
12:29 AM
@sehe Huh?
 
I have food too
 
user142019
@sehe Stereotype programmer.
 
0
Q: Meta programming and runtime code generation

PhelodasI have a requirement where I need to generate the function arguments at runtime. At compile time, I do not know the number of arguments or their type. It has to be read from a file at runtime, generate the code and dynamically loaded. I have used the M4 macro generation language before. It prov...

Just what.
 
What the fuck
 
@CatPlusPlus Moar food.
 
12:30 AM
@sehe girls want the D, but we only know C++!
 
Someone is ringing the intercom thingy
What the uck
It's almost 3am
 
First crossover!
 
@LucDanton Ahahahaha
 
@Borgleader DCL has himself painted way too far into that corner. He'll be spending at least a year to even see the box, before he can step out of it. Unless, unlikely, the girl walk straight at him and kisses him one day.
 
I told him to not be me but he doesn't listen
 
12:31 AM
@CatPlusPlus Probably drunk.
 
user142019
 
user142019
@Borgleader high-five.
 
@rightfold Now if you were to reverse the formulation: Most people here have fucked few girls, I'd be willing to bet some things on that.
 
user142019
@sehe Stop taking me serious.
 
@CatPlusPlus He came back to ask you to clarify on that, right
 
12:32 AM
Ugh
 
@rightfold -ly
 
@sehe He did? Eh... poor guy
 
It's pretty straightforward
 
user142019
@sehe I don't know the -l and -y flags, sorry.
 
I've hit an MSVC is trying to generate a copy constructor from what I'm writing.
Fuck you, MSVC. =/
 
12:33 AM
You hit what.
 
Why are you writing cpp on 3am
at
 
He's hitting on MSVC
 
whatever
 
@sehe With a club. Is what I'd like to do.
 
@CatPlusPlus He's in another continent where it isn't 3AM.
 
12:33 AM
He's writing his mother a mother's day present.
In c++
 
it;s a dumb continent
 
=[
 
it's incontinent!
 
Smart continents are at 3AM.
 
12:34 AM
2:34am FTW
 
I hate myself
 
That's a start
Why, btw?
 
user142019
@CatPlusPlus Don't worry, you're not the only one. I hate you too.
 
I quit. ;~;
Fuck MSVC
 
user142019
@ThePhD Bye.
 
12:35 AM
@CatPlusPlus The girl was hideous?
 
@rightfold Thanks i knew i could count on you
no
 
could (past tense), see can (v.)
> scan: scrub repaired 0 in 7h28m with 0 errors on Sun May 12 01:47:18 2013
 
what a scrub
oooh doctor who
 
@CatPlusPlus Already?
 
Nopes. ZFS fileserver. I thought I'd do a scrub once, since it's been over 2 years :)
I could have knocked it of earlier :/ Cheers, and good night
 
12:37 AM
I'm gonna go eat chocolate raisins and sit at a Bonfire and wait to be summoned. =[
 
Wait to be consumed.
 
Summoned? Are you some sort of spirit?
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: You suck. You won't be assimilated. Resistance is futile. [c++] [c++11] [no-helpdesk]
 
Insistence is fertile.
 
I'll watch when I'm hungry.
 
12:38 AM
eating in this state is a bad idea
 
user142019
Change your state.
 
its immutable
 
user142019
Make a new yourself with different state and destroy the original.
 
fck it i'm going to sleep
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: You suck. You won't be assimilated. Insistence is futile. [c++] [c++11] [no-helpdesk]
 
12:47 AM
@LucDanton: Given that no compilers currently exist that fully support C++11, I put it to you that it doesn't matter what I use. Any solutions that rely on C++11 features are by nature flawed if the original question does not cite a specific compiler. That's like suggesting a solution that depends on C++/CLI or some other unofficial extension. (Alternatively, if I'm mistaken, please point me to a 100%-conformant compiler - I know for certain that VS2012 and GCC are not.) — Sod Almighty 17 secs ago
This isn't going anywhere, is it?
 
user142019
Doesn't clang fully support C++11?
 
Clang implements all of the ISO C++ 2011 standard. Also, what are you raging against? We don't give you the compilers. We just answer questions and try to help. Please, try to calm down. Thank you. — sehe 1 min ago
 
user142019
Conclusion: OP is a faggot.
 
That's the premise.
Oh wait.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Lol, I was so going to leave 'standards compliance in general' out of the picture :) I was kinda hoping for that to be beyond the OP's level of pedantry
 
12:51 AM
OP is far from being a pedant :v
 
Well. I could argue in favour of that, but that'd be even more useless pedantry
 
Btw GCC supports the same features as Clang language-wise but I really don't like the discussion going that way.
 
Hei guys
You know I love you all, right?
 
> but I'll be damned if I'm coding in Notepad and building on the command line.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
 
I suppose by now 'going that way' means 'going further off the rails'.
 
12:54 AM
1 message moved to bin
We get it.
 
Code::Blocks will take any commandline compiler and Clang specifically has a drop-in replacement CLI interface so you can just replace g++ with clang++ in the vast majority of cases. See sourceforge.net/projects/mingw-w64/files/… for nice windows packages (there's also 64bit) (PS.: You're still fighting windmills. You could really do without the rage. No one here is suggesting you must use Notepad. It's tiring) — sehe 51 secs ago
 
I think life is much easier when you have nothing. I don't care about good cars, a good job or anything. I just want the food I need and some alchool...
 
Maybe
if I scream loud enough
MSVC will worj.
 
"Life is easy if you have nothing. I mean, except the things you care about."
 
It already worjs! Like clockworj!
 
user142019
12:58 AM
Be a nihilist problem solved.
 
Paraphrasing: life can be easier if you have less.
 
Worjs is a nice name.
 
user142019
Braadworst.
 
I just care about good talks.
 
12:59 AM
@sehe Good luck making a living out of eating and drink.
 
Which is going to need food and alchool
I enjoy a drunk talk way more than orgasm
 
Sad life view
 
user142019
@sehe I have no idea what the point of that machine is.
 
It worjs!
 
@sehe why is that?
 
1:01 AM
I don't know. Some opinions I hold, just because I value my beliefs. (For starters sober talk>drunk talk)
 
@sehe, I completely disagree. sincere talk > sober talk
 
?! Sad life view.
 
@sehe why do you connect sad with drunk?
 
Whatever
I don't care anymore
it compiles
 
@Jueecy.new I don't
 
1:02 AM
Fuck MSVC.
 
@sehe than what's sad?
 
Fuck their broken stupid piece of shit compiler
 
@Jueecy.new Why do you connect "sincere" with "drunk"? (Or, perhaps, "sober" with "insincere"?!?!)
 
Making millions off of VS but can't give a core compiler experience that isn't like pulling teeth.
Fuck you, MSVC. Fuck you.
 
@sehe because drugs and alchool is the only thing that makes us totally sincere
 
1:03 AM
Right. Sad life view.
 
Does the SO profile allow one to search inside past comments?
 
Anyways. My nightly backup just ran. Way pas bed time
 
@LucDanton No.
 
@LucDanton Nope. I remember using data.se once. It worked. But it's tedious
 
I am rarely totally sincere. I am a manipulative bastard.
 
1:04 AM
You live an utopistic point of view then
 
Well. That's not too bad.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No you are not.
 
How can you tell?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Manipulative people never say they are.
 
user142019
I've never been so insane as I am right now.
 
1:06 AM
@Jueecy.new lol. I bet your logic is even more solid when you're drunk. Oh wait. You might be.
@rightfold Hmm. What's that
 
@sehe Yes it's very bad because when you'll realize I'm right you'll feel like shit.
 
user142019
Time to watch MLP again.
 
@Jueecy.new Talk to me again in 15 years. You'll still be younger than me.
 
@sehe I don't plan on living that long
 
And plonk
 
@sehe Why did you send the OP on a goose chase lol?
 
@LucDanton wild
 
@sehe If that's what you want then ok.
 
Man, it took way too long to remember that trope's name. I'm getting old.
 
I know right? Totally wacky!
 
1:09 AM
@LucDanton Did I? Of course not. I suggested ways for him to become more informed. I never suggested it's gonna help him answer his question. But is sure stopped his strawman's for the moment.
 
Right and next they'll complain about tools that are horrible to install and/or use and it'll be your fault, and likely mine as well.
 
@LucDanton Chop chop. Not so gloomy!
 
@LucDanton Sounds like you need a break. Take a walk or something.
 
I don't find it so much gloomy as cruel to the OP :p
 
Wait, it's 3AM over there as well.
 
1:11 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Can't fault you for making the mistake right here.
 
Not that it means anything.
Wait, wrong half of the day.
 
I only mentioned it because googling those things cost me <30s in total and I know it would frustrate the OP so much, that it would take him >∞s to do the same. (Which, incidentally leads to him holding inane beliefs as "Code::Blocks doesn't work with Clang" or "No compiler supports C++" or "C++ has ridiculous restrictions).
@LucDanton Well, I feel it's my right, to risk that the OP learn things he doesn't need to learn. Particularly because the OP felt the need to complain about these very things he didn't need to complain about :/
 
May 31 '12 at 0:45, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Anyway, now that everyone knows how to really, really piss me off, I'm going to take a walk to calm down and then try to sleep. Bye.
Ah, there.
 
I'm not POd. Incredulous, if anything.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what's that supposed to mean?
 
1:16 AM
> Sometimes people just won't believe you.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes about what?
 
11 mins ago, by Jueecy.new
@R.MartinhoFernandes Manipulative people never say they are.
 
Oh right.
 
Night again
 
Night
 
1:20 AM
VS2012 doesn't do constexpr?
 
VS doesnt do a bunch of stuff
 
sigh
 
user142019
> Life is full of misery.
 
1:41 AM
@Borgleader BTW, anything in there is really not surprising and anyone with a decent amount of computer experience would have known it.
 
@Rapptz Then I guess I don't have a decent amount of computer experience.
 
RIP.
To be fair, it isn't very surprising that legacy code and the users would be astounding factors to the kernel being slow. Unlike *nix systems which are generally free, the users expect too much from MS.
Just yesterday you had that guy, The Pet, saying M$ and how because he paid he deserves to have a bug free experience or something
Stupid.
 
user142019
lol
 
Oh hey, you reached 4k rep. Gratz
 
1:47 AM
oty
 
@Rapptz Stupid indeed. Who's The Pet?
 
Uhh GamErix or whatever it was
 
How well does VS2012 fare when it comes to extended SFINAE?
 
works fine, I think
not sure
but I am not an extensive SFINAE user
 
You can try this if you don't have it rise4fun.com/vcpp
though it's hilariously bad compared to every online compiler ever (including codepad.org)
 
1:52 AM
@Rapptz Neat.
 
RiSE has some of the coolest stuff I have seen out of MSR.
 
worse than codepad - that is a new record
 
lol, issue was use of uniform initialization I think.
 
wait does VS 2010 come with C++11?
 
Does this link work?
 
1:54 AM
Some stuff from TR1
 
@Rapptz I know right, what were they thinking
 
I'm guessing it does!
 
user142019
It does.
 
@Johann Some bits.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes some bits?
 
1:55 AM
@ShafikYaghmour It's a toy written by a research group.
pex4fun.com is cool.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm not bashing the group, I just think the toy compiler is a bit lame.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It is!
 

« first day (939 days earlier)      last day (4012 days later) »