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6:00 PM
And, the open part was what I wondered about. I didn't realize it was ever closed. As in, closed and used more widespread.
 
It was put in the public domain on april 30th, 1993.
But the software itself existed since 1989.
 
user142019
The first web browser was written in Objective-C. :>
 
What was Mosaic written in?
 
C
 
Hi everyone
 
user142019
6:04 PM
Hello
 
I don't know why, but I always think of it as 1980 :\
 
@NoSenseEtAl I freaking love that guy.
 
Rooms have events?
 
yes
yay new bills >.>
 
@ScottW 1980 as opposed to 1990 for the web.
 
6:14 PM
@Pawnguy7 now on minicraft
@Ell cool
 
@BartekBanachewicz Sounds good. What feature is next? Or, engine part.
 
I am trying to integrate Assimp library ATM
to allow displaying non-cube objects
 
We are now transitioning the #stackoverflow and #stackexchange databases over to 10gb connections, should a be transparent operation
 
As in not made of straight edges? (curves, for example), or smaller-than-cube objects?
 
Prepare for some down time, guys.
 
6:17 PM
@Pawnguy7 just 3d models.
 
is it me or is pair extremely easy to write?
as in, a size-optimized version.
 
@BartekBanachewicz do you have some interesting assimp input model?
 
@EvgenyPanasyuk I will probably make something quick for testing, why?
 
user142019
@ScottW lol
 
Translation?
 
6:21 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I can show some trick
 
@EvgenyPanasyuk have you used Assimp before?
 
@Borgleader Apparently he was a hockey player en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Horton huh, learn something new every day
 
@BartekBanachewicz yeah
 
@EvgenyPanasyuk cool, what is the trick?
 
@BartekBanachewicz give me some model
 
6:22 PM
what exactly it is? :P
 
ah, nevermind :P
 
derp.
I don't have anything now, I mean there's a ton of Assimp samples
 
@ShafikYaghmour 100% Canadian.
 
@BartekBanachewicz just, curious to know if you have some special cool models
 
@EvgenyPanasyuk minecraft models are hardly interesting
 
6:24 PM
yeah :)
 
I've decided to go with functionality of Pocket edition now
it's much more limited
 
@Rapptz Being neither a Canadian nor a hockey fan I never even thought about him being a real person
 
It is limited? In what way?
 
less features obviously
hm I think I have everythin I need
 
I have not tried it, I couldn't say.
 
6:28 PM
okey let's make a model of something
what should I make
first entry wins.
 
I need more... details.
Criterion.
 
Is it just any model? A model that will be used in game? What?
 
i mean from original mc
I'll make a fence
 
Are you then deriving the textures from the model, or?
 
6:31 PM
well texturing is a separate process
first you make a model that's just flat shaded
and honestly, that's the easy part
 
texturing is a pain in the butt
 
I have to buy some software for easy texturing
 
I mean to say, do you mean to use the model itself, or is this just a roundabout route to get texture files for use in the engine?
 
There's stuff easier than Max
@Pawnguy7 no, I want to display the goddamn fence :3
 
!! vgscan or vgchange not found: skipping LVM group activation!
This is bad, right?
 
6:37 PM
@ScottW Who?
Also, @Bartek, erm...
Just went to your Careers profile, and...
> I mastered C++
 
Bullshit.
Nobody can "master" C++.
 
also no shit.
 
Careers the job site portion?
 
don't you think I'm not aware of it?
as long as I can defend that statement on the job interview, it's OK
 
6:38 PM
Kinda sounds pretentious, though.
 
Works nevertheless.
i get countless mails on Linkedin
and possibly also an internship in UK this summer if everything turns out allright
 
@EtiennedeMartel lol
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, but the kind of employers who believe that are... well... I wouldn't want to work for them.
 
@EtiennedeMartel ARM, Intel and Nokia?
 
6:41 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Sounds about right.
Are there really C++ programmers there?
 
one or two
 
So, yeah. Hurray.
 
you have to realize that the level of C++ we have here is rarely seen in real life C++ jobs
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nevertheless, people at Intel are a) eager to learn b) see benefits of C++11
and that's enough for me.
 
@BartekBanachewicz yes :(
 
now if that's not enough for you @Etienne go for C++ startup, if any exist.
 
6:44 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I'm a C# programmer.
 
oh that.
 
What about C??????
 
well, in C# situation might be a bit different; less legacy code and coders
@Mysticial grrrr
I C no reason.
also I posted a motherfucking model of a fence and nobody noticed :(
 
Just apply texture with sexy C++14 to it, and it would be much more interest here.
 
@BartekBanachewicz It is a fence. I don't know what else to say.
 
6:47 PM
jk. I'll post it textured in world next time
 
@BartekBanachewicz Nobody cares about your fence.
 
@EtiennedeMartel :(
@Pawnguy7 how is your 2D tiled thingy going?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Very true indeed
 
@BartekBanachewicz But it works~
 
@BartekBanachewicz Javascript was driving me mad. So, not very. I just don't like its... paradigm,or whatever you call it. I would prefer more OO concepts than... whatever it has.
 
6:49 PM
@ThePhD that's not an excuse
 
And yet Assimp is used everywhere for all kinds of things~
 
@Pawnguy7 meh. JS isn't unlike Lua; you can force it to be OOP
 
@BartekBanachewicz Probably. I should revisit it. The other problem was, I was a bit unsure how to make the view in the first place.
 
@BartekBanachewicz What kind of UB are we talking about?
 
6:51 PM
@ThePhD well I am using it too. I think I can tell apart a good C library from bad C library though, and this one isn't particularly amazing. Isn't also very bad too.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Not many I know of, in NY there is 10Gen can't think of another one off the top of my head
 
@EtiennedeMartel Well, TBH I am not sure if it's UB; it's relying on struct alignment and no padding
 
@DeadMG WHAT Google REJECTED you?!?!?!
 
@Pawnguy7 what view? Also if you want a look at OOP in JS, look at OpenMoba, my friend (a JS developer) helped me on it and he put a bit of the inner knowledge and idioms
 
@ThePhD yeah
 
6:52 PM
What the shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
If DeadMG can't make it in how the shit am I gonna have a chance ;~;
 
user142019
Daisy wasn't cute enough.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Like, the worldview. What chunks are loaded, the coordinate systems, that sort of thing. Also, I just feel like it would be so much easier in... say, C++, C#, even Java. That difference, whatever it is, just seems to constantly throw me off, and time has not helped.
 
user142019
The only good tag in there is .
 
user142019
6:54 PM
The rest is absolutely shitty.
 
@Pawnguy7 meh. the chunks aren't particularly hard concept
 
@ThePhD Well, puppy's gag reflex is too strong.
 
user142019
@EtiennedeMartel That sounds so wrong.
 
@EtiennedeMartel ....?
Am I supposed to understand that. o.0
 
@rightfold It's intended.
 
6:55 PM
@ThePhD It's better if you don't.
 
oh I forgot about error checking
 
@ThePhD You know what a gag reflex is?
 
user142019
He's saying that Puppy sucks deepthroats donkey cock.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I get the chunk object, I was just debating how to best implement them into the containing world/view. Perhaps it is simple, and I was just off that day.
 
@rightfold I'm saying he doesn't suck them well enough to get a job at Google.
 
6:56 PM
@Pawnguy7 if you can afford (performance-wise) go for simple get(x,y)
and then sample world for every visible tile
if you can't, make rectangle query
I am able to process my chunk 16x16x16 in less than one frame in Release
oh wait I already fixed that one.
 
Are we discussing 3d chunks?
 
doesn't really matter
basic principle is exactly the same
 
@BartekBanachewicz I was wondering about this part
 
@Pawnguy7 determine the tile in the upper left corner. given that (offset) and screen size / tile size ( = number of tiles) make two for loops
 

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