« first day (836 days earlier)      last day (4111 days later) » 

11:00 AM
ZeroMQ is a finished product because Zoidberg never worked on it
4
 
user142019
ZeroMQ is great.
 
user142019
@CatPlusPlus lol +1
 
@sehe Sorry, went away for a bit. Can you try starting the server?
 
user142019
Do or do not. There is no try.
 
@LucDanton Yup. A second
> 2013-01-29 12:03:53 [WARNING] [Minecraft] The save is being accessed from another location, aborting
@LucDanton ^ Derp. It is running?
 
11:04 AM
@sehe Why do you have a second server?
 
@sehe Apparently. I'm kinda confused.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
@LucDanton Let me just restart. There's no one loggedin anyway
 
Go ahead.
 
@LucDanton Starting now. Try it?
 
@sehe Seems good!
 
11:13 AM
Hello there.
I need some advice regarding documentation.
 
Ohai
 
Don't! Docs are for wusses.
 
Xeo
hrhr
 
I have Doxygen generated documentation. Then I have a README file and docs/*.txt files. Now, I am looking for some way to integrate all the pieces into a single document that can be converted into either HTML or PDF or such.
Any ideas?
...while still keeping the text files in mostly-text so that people can read them before they run ./configure
 
user142019
Use APIDoc. lol
 
11:17 AM
@wilx I have used pandoc in the past with some success.
Markdown was designed to be read in the plain text form, and pandoc can make neat PDFs out of it.
 
user142019
Hmm, didn't think of Pandoc.
 
user142019
May use that for APIDoc instead of exporting HTML.
 
user142019
And then just export Markdown.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes @R.MartinhoFernandes: Thanks, I will look at both.
 
11:19 AM
dammit, VS is so damn slow with large projects that I'm seriously considering switching to vim
I am a code monkey (ATM), I don't need that pile of crap -.-
 
@Zoidberg What is APIDoc?
Your latest failed project?
 
user142019
Project I'm working on.
 
user142019
I started on it last night.
 
When else
 
You know, you are actually worse than the lounge with is. At least the lounge does not start a new project every single day.
 
user142019
11:20 AM
It reads comments and function signatures and outputs Markdown.
 
Admit it, it does nothing.
 
user142019
It does do something, as I said.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes He's talking from a parallel world point-of-view.
 
Dammit, I am not yet equipped to handle typos in German. My coworkers need to be more careful when typing their e-mails :(
 
user142019
It only doesn't yet work with multiline function signatures and I'll fix that today.
 
11:22 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes And that's the beauty of it
 
@sehe Confusing indeed!
 
@LucDanton Should I go ahead an remove the auto-relaunch thing from the start script? It is no longer needed now
 
Yeah.
 
I'm not too sure whether it's safe to edit start.sh while it is executing (Windows fails badly if you edit batch files mid-stream... e.g.)
 
I've just learned how to summon a golem army. Fear me!
 
11:25 AM
So that'd warrant a stop again
 
@sehe You mean like right now?
 
@LucDanton You mean, you connected to a shared remote multiplexed screen session over ssh?
 
@sehe No, animating magical servants that slay my enemies. Close though.
 
@LucDanton Not necessarily, you give me a signal? (I mean, the relaunch was annoying enough to require my assistance earlier today)
@LucDanton lulz
 
@LucDanton Now all you need are enemies, right?
 
11:27 AM
@sehe Go ahead.
 
@LucDanton on it
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Don't think so. Possibly a lot of leather though!
 
@LucDanton Done. Have you seen my password typing :) I have also done a git snapshot and onsite backup
 
@sehe Can't say I have, wrong machine.
 
aaargh
10kbs dling BF3.
 
11:30 AM
@LucDanton aw. shame. you missed by unrivaled commandline admin fu
 
@DeadMG You are still downloading BF3?
 
@DeadMG what do you need a new boyfriend for anyway? The first 2 broken?
 
welcome to swamp interwebs connections
 
Oh gosh the suckage, it burns.
 
Should I prefix private member variables?
(stackoverflow.com is an accepted answer to this ^)
 
11:32 AM
I prefix all member variables because collisions are annoying
 
I suffix some with _ when colour colour.
 
prefixing uppercase is UB tho, right? (sorry, I was reading robots post and writing at the same time, it got mixed in my head)
like in _Here
 
Xeo
prefixing is
 
yes
 
11:33 AM
That's not suffix
 
that's a prefix, though.
 
Xeo
FWIW, my members are _stuff.
 
Also I don't know who thought lowercased type names would be a good idea but it's not
Why would you prefix uppercase things anyway
 
I am thinking about changing my code conventions
 
The pirate will tell you that you should not use those tricks; you should instead give up on using the perfect names for things and think up better names.
 
11:36 AM
He'll also make some typos while doing it
MY FOOD IS ONE MINUTE LATE
 
@CatPlusPlus Those are the better names!
 
Mangaer still looks terrible
 
colour colour problem? colour clour.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh god.
 
flour
 
11:37 AM
oooooh
now downloading BF3 at a whole 30kbs
 
@CatPlusPlus ITT cat is starving.
@DeadMG Impressive.
 
Earlier today I downloaded DOTA2 at 4MB/s
 
the only thing I miss about university is the internets
 
@CatPlusPlus hehe, rub it in.
 
When I finally get unlazy and buy a bigger antenna for my wifi, it'll get up to 7MB/s
Well, bigger, I mostly need to get it out from under the desk
 
It's all about wood
 
Xeo
lol
 
It's a bearded chicken, apparently.
 
The best kind of chicken
Come on food deliver yourself I want to go to sleep
 
11:43 AM
@CatPlusPlus I thought you wanted to eat.
 
That too
 
0
Q: Using a header instead of the standard namespace

Mohammad SaneiI am curious if there is any header file in C++ which can be used (included) instead of the standard namespace ("using namespace std") that works the same even in new versions of C++? I want to know if I can write code without using any namespaces and still be able to use the string data type. Th...

 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what.
 
How did you know that was my reaction?
 
because he appears to have confused headers and namespaces
 
11:47 AM
WHAT'S WITH THE TYPEDEFS
 
@CatPlusPlus Wʜᴀᴛ's ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ᴄᴀᴘɪᴛᴀʟs?
 
I want it to be compatible with old C++ code but I can't use <iostream.h> because my compiler is not old. — Mohammad Sanei 33 secs ago
Yeah that's going to be the biggest proble
 
nanananana I just pushed an initiative to make all build targets compatible with C++11
 
"compatible"
Food where are you :(
2
FOOD
 
Was there ever a point when dtors were not generated automatically?
 
11:54 AM
I doubt it
 
Xeo
I don't think so?
 
1750: Benjamin Franklin electrocutes a chicken, then revives it using mouth-to-mouth resuscitation. The chicken survived but was blinded.
WTF
 
lol
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, there was also a chicken that surved a long time without a head.
 
11:56 AM
@Xeo "mouth-to-mouth resuscitation"
 
I just put on my robe and wizard's goggles.
 
user142019
Can I view a specific section of a Wikipedia article?
 
user142019
Without anything else on the page.
 
Just squint a little.
 
user142019
Fuck it I'll use Web Inspector.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes mouth-to-beak? :S
 
@DeadMG How's the jobhunt?
 
@Zoidberg Focus, son. It's called focus
 
user142019
No I want to print only a specific section.
 
user142019
I just removed all the other crap using Web Inspector. :P
 
user142019
12:08 PM
Time to print this shit.
 
user142019
I have to go to Roosendaal in less than two hours.
 
Time for lunch. /cc @Cat :P
 
I have my food
 
I just ate
present, future and the past
how beautiful
 
I'm going to be eating soon
 
12:11 PM
Just perfect
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lunch? I just had breakfast ._.
 
@melak47 are you CET?
 
user142019
So many crap on the Internet.
 
user142019
I want an Externet that doesn't suck.
 
@Zoidberg Maybe InterInterNet?
 
user142019
12:17 PM
 
Also, notice how the word internet implies it's for interns.
@Zoidberg that's nice. I am going to use it to piss off my javascript flatmate.
 
I would expect the Wrap(T t) constructor to be called.
 
Xeo
Don't ask me. :)
 
12:23 PM
You code seems to fix the problem but I'd like to know how :)
 
Xeo
It apparently gets moved after construction.
And if your move ctor isn't noexcept, it'll try the copy ctor.
 
> Appends a new element to the end of the container. The element is constructed in-place, i.e. no copy or move operations are performed.
 
Xeo
Ah, I think I know why now.
The actual move isn't performed.
But the resize that's implicit for emplace_back may call it.
51 secs ago, by Xeo
And if your move ctor isn't noexcept, it'll try the copy ctor.
Since a throwing move ctor would be a disaster to a container.
If an element in the middle throws, it's over.
 
user142019
Why would a move ctor ever throw?
 
I see.
 
Xeo
12:25 PM
@Zoidberg Don't ask me.
 
@Xeo In this case there is no move constructor.
 
Xeo
@LucDanton Oh, not generated because of explicitly user-declared copy ctor?
 
Xeo
Oh well, reasoning still stands.
 
user142019
12:29 PM
@sehe never?
 
@Zoidberg Uhoh. The talk? Or you mean cycle to the railway station
 
@BartekBanachewicz He lives in not-quite-Berlin.
 
user142019
@sehe trein.
 
user142019
By bus.
 
@Zoidberg Never. At least not to machine representation
 
user142019
12:30 PM
Because effort.
 
user142019
Time to print this shitty document.
 
> WhiteSpace Strippers saved 0 bytes
 
user142019
> A user-mode process may be able to access the first page of kernel memory
 
user142019
What a terrible bug.
 
Xeo
12:34 PM
They're fucking nuts.
> replacing spaces with the appropriate amount of tabs
 
> We will be was running (...)
> Can the death threats can stop now?
 
Xeo
Yeah, that.
 
> We will be was running an automated process to strip open source code of unnecessary whitespace.
 
Gosh, their awful.. (typo intended)
 
> One of the great battles of computer science that has been ongoing since programming began is the Tabs vs Spaces conflict. WhiteSpace Strippers believe 4 spaces a waste of space where 1 tab will do.
Go fuck yourselves don't ever touch my code
 
user142019
12:35 PM
What a bunch of fucking morons.
 
user142019
Let people decide that themselves.
 
Xeo
> No, I dont like it. I would rather have lots of pointless whitespace in my projects and I want to destroy the planet
 
user142019
Also, tabs are horrible. :P
 
Also :lol: energy cost efficiency calculations
 
They do deserve the death threats.
 
12:37 PM
> Programmers: by using spaces you are destroying the planet!
 
user142019
Good.
 
Who the fuck is that
 
user142019
Because this planet is worthless.
 
user142019
So use lots of spaces.
 
could this accidentally break some python code? :3
 
12:37 PM
Yes.
 
Not unless the code was already invalid
 
user142019
Yes; alignment.
 
These days I truly am glad when someone flips the bozo bit in like the first 30 seconds of reading/discussion. I ain't even mad; now I know I can safely ignore anything about this project or the people involved.
 
user142019
foobar(baz,
       qux) # boom!
 
user142019
In Python you always use four spaces because PEP 8.
 
12:38 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes wtf (dat page)
 
@Zoidberg Doesn't matter
 
user142019
@CatPlusPlus oh wait. xd
 
lol no github? I'm expecting the website to disappear soonish too.
 
@melak47 how did you manage to get that duplicate? Try posting it again: it wouldn't work
 
user142019
> D Language‏ @D_Programming Followed by C++
 
user142019
12:39 PM
lol
 
@Xeo Waitwhat, they're programmatically creating github pull requests for arbitrary projects without any kind of opt-in from the project owner?
 
Nobody is going to accept a shitty pullreq like this
I don't know what the fuck they're smoking
 
Did you also notice the "Space doesn't have to be white"?
 
The indent style you're using makes me want to hurt you! — Ivan Nikolchov 3 hours ago
^ the guy has a point
 
12:40 PM
@LucDanton Yes.
 
"Pull request : whitespace changes"
 
@jalf There's an opt-out. They just nuts.
 
They might be banned already
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah, but no opt-in required?
 
12:41 PM
@sehe conection issues - said it didn't go through, I retried, then it appeared...and then it appeared again
 
wtf were they thinking?
 
user142019
@KonradRudolph Classmate used that indent style before he went to not indenting at all.
 
If they just started randomly creating pullreqs then they should be banned already
 
user142019
 
Consider how they're wasting even more space. As git will store the old revision anyway. Aaaaand their pull request. Aaaand the space wasted hosting their shitty strip act. Aaaand consider the energy wasted by running it, having people ranting and fuming on the internet.
 
user142019
12:42 PM
> 70 pull requests.
 
> Open Source Contributions
 
@Zoidberg Ah, an improvement.
 
Seems they started on PHP stuffs.
 
user142019
@KonradRudolph also that guy's spacing around operators is terrible.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Because lexing PHP is easy and safe
 
12:43 PM
@Zoidberg At least he’s consistent, all his (open source) projects look like this – it’s a shame, his code is utterly unusable
 
@sehe Aaaand they're gone
 
Apparently thez got two PRs merged.
 
user142019
No he's not consistent.
 
user142019
Oh lol.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Probably PQM bots with automated testing
 
12:44 PM
@Zoidberg I meant, consistent in crappiness.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Seriously
What the fuck
Look at those stats
 
Haha, of the two PRs merged, one saved 0 bytes, and the other saved 1.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes they saved an innocent byte!
 
Seriously who is stupid enough to do this
I'm seriously angry at this level of stupidity right now
 
This is like open source terrorism.
2
 
12:46 PM
Ban thread gas OP
It makes my brain hurt
Argh whyyy
 
user142019
Moronz.
 
It's like, computers are very good at automation. So you get automated stupidity.
 
Only someone from PHP community could've came up with something like this
 
(removed)
 
(blank gif)
 
12:48 PM
@BartekBanachewicz what'cha doing there
 
Trying to post a meme
Failing
 
that ^
sincerelly, fuck you quickmeme
 
And seriously people who actually merged those pullreqs are possibly even stupider than the original author of this shit
IT'S SO STUPID IT HURTS
 
It's nearly as stupid as jehova's witnesses
They're coming to your door and asking you to pull their requests into your head
 
aaargh
I finally finished downloading 3.8GB of BF3 updates at 10kbs
and now it wants me to DL another update :9
 
12:51 PM
@BartekBanachewicz You took a screenshot, uploaded it to imgur then oneboxed?
 
@sehe I used our uploader.
 
@DeadMG can't help but laugh.
 
@CatPlusPlus They did the OSS community a service: they exposed morons
@BartekBanachewicz our?
 
@sehe it shows when you click "upload"
 
Because they know it's what you want.
Either that, or it's a ploy by social services. Annoying you into a job at the grocer's
 
12:54 PM
Ok, is anyone able to make any sense of the "7kwh to move 1GB of data" claim?
 
No
Don't make my brain hurt even more
 
Xeo
HALP. They use tabs instead of spaces here at work. :(
 
As far as I can figure out, the presentation he's referencing is saying that moving data digitally is also 300,000 times more efficient than moving physical data on paper. In other words, if you took 1GB of data, printed it to a stack of paper, and moved that around, it would require around 2.1 GWh. Isn't that like a dozen nuclear reactors?
 
@Xeo You only noticed now?
 
Xeo
With "use" I meant they're saying I should use them too. :(
 

« first day (836 days earlier)      last day (4111 days later) »