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12:15 AM
@EtiennedeMartel Are those diamonds easy to find?
 
@LucDanton Oh, oh.
 
@StackedCrooked Really? I find that surprising. I'd have assumed it'd have MJ in it.
 
@JerryCoffin lol, what are you talking about?
 
@StackedCrooked Well, I'd assume a "Michael Jackson interview" would have Michael Jackson in it. But you said it's nice, so obviously it must not.
 
@CatPlusPlus If at least I knew what your face looks like.
 
12:18 AM
I guess that means we are no longer friends.
;D
 
@StackedCrooked Needs more memes to be an adequate summary.
 
But there's a dick.
 
and I found it funny
 
I don't get it.
 
It's all about the penises.
 
12:24 AM
There's nothing to get.
 
:v is a speachless persons mouth hanging open in disbelief right?
 
@EtiennedeMartel 4 blocks => 8 diamonds
 
Woohoohoo
 
Hello, C++!
 
more like, "Hello, lounge, which once in a blue moon discusses C++."
 
12:34 AM
We discuss C++ a lot here
I think you guys are in denial.
I think best is to learn C and stop scripting with toy languages... — Erogol 2 mins ago
lol
 
@Rapptz I'm not in denial. I'm in deAmazon.
 
@Rapptz, DeadMG's comment below is great :D
 
@Rapptz What the fuck.
 
Pretty much my reaction.
 
user142019
Thanks for the Minecraft server, to whoever set that up.
 
user142019
12:37 AM
It's so much fun.
 
Where's the crescent hammer >:(
 
user142019
I never touched it.
 
@Zoidberg riiiiight
wait, what?
 
user142019
leeeeeft
 
@JerryCoffin For some reason the prefix de reminds me of Germany.
Probably due to the top level domain (.de)
 
12:41 AM
are there real smilies in unicode?
 
@Rapptz Probably. The Deutsch/Deutsche/Deutscher among us might have a few more ideas.
 
I figured there would be
 
user142019
in C#, 7 mins ago, by Roel van Uden
Drop all useful features from C# and you have Java.
 
@JerryCoffin Oh gosh, that is awful.
 
user142019
12:44 AM
Heh, nice.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Thanks -- I do try! :-)
 
lol
 
@Zoidberg Still mistaken though. Drop both useful features from C# and you have Java!
 
user142019
Both?
 
user142019
> The last message was posted 7 hours ago.
 
12:46 AM
@Zoidberg So you think it only has one?
 
user142019
VirtualBox loves time shifts.
 
user142019
@JerryCoffin all. That can be one, two or many.
 
user142019
Do you think it only has two?
 
@Zoidberg Yes -- I'm saying it definitely doesn't have any more than two.
 
user142019
Oh. :P
 
user142019
12:48 AM
Which ones?
 
@Zoidberg Yes -- but I'm open to the possibility of being excessively generous there.
 
user142019
Ah okay.
 
this guy is so arrogant
 
@Zoidberg Which one....ummm....under some circumstances, reflection can actually be kind of handy (but that doesn't fit the original claim, since Java does have it).
 
user142019
Real generics, maybe?
 
12:51 AM
LINQ too
 
@Rapptz I'm not really arrogant -- I'm just better than all those...little people.
 
Ohh man are these different? I should have realized that before as their difference on the names? You enlightened on me ? Regards for all your bright minds? — Erogol 5 mins ago
I think he accepted the other answer to spite Luchian.
 
agree
 
@Zoidberg It's generics aren't quite as braindead as Java's, but that's about the best I can say. "Generics" covers a vast amount of capability. C#'s generics are half vast at best.
 
maybe we should start a Lounge game of Mafia.
anyone with me?
 
12:56 AM
Not a fan of Mafia
 
Ell
How about async kk?
*io
 
I don't get Mafia
 
New PE in two min
 
haven't done PE in ages
 
@Erogol Whoa, you're quite the douche. — Etienne de Martel 8 secs ago
 
1:05 AM
@MarcusStuhr good luck, I gave up already
 
@EtiennedeMartel ouch
 
Yep pretty much just staring at it blankly right about now
 
Oh thank God
I thought I became dumber.
 
@EtiennedeMartel oh wait...I took that as the noob calling you a douche lol
@EtiennedeMartel I think that went without saying...
 
@EtiennedeMartel lol
 
1:15 AM
Enchantment table operational!
But needs more bookshelves
 
maybe I just suck but these problems feel lethal lately
trickier than usual
 
@Rapptz if you feel really dumb you come to C# room right? :)
 
Already solved by one.
I have to go out and do other things though. :(
I'll tackle it later
 
user142019
1:42 AM
Anyone know what font this is?
 
user142019
 
Ell
de ja vu sans italic condensed
 
Image not found
 
Ell
nah that's just a guess
 
Stop being bad
 
user142019
1:44 AM
@CatPlusPlus I'm sorry.
 
@Ell it wasn't even a guess. It was ridiculous :)
 
Looks kinda like DejaVu
 
Ell
Consoles? Idk, I'm not good with fonts. I just know what system and comic sans and courier New looks like
 
user142019
The r is different, though.
 
Consoles sans r ;)
 
Ell
1:46 AM
Is it the open source version of it?
 
Consol_a_s?
 
Ell
Hey little sister, shotgun! It's a - nice day for a - white wedding. It's a nice say to, start again
 
@sehe I'm on my tablet so bear with me for typos
 
user142019
 
@Borgleader Urgh.
Alright
ENOUGH MESSING AROUND
 
Ell
1:51 AM
There's a bear with you? Ahhhhhhhhh
 
I'm gonna get shitfaced.
 
Ell
Wait wait wait
 
See y'all.
 
Ell
Remember what you told.me
Drink properly!
Ahh he's gone isn't he?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Later. Enjoy.
 
1:52 AM
@EtiennedeMartel I got my wisdom teeth removed, all four, so my jokes will be even more terrible than usual.
Cya
 
user142019
I got it.
 
user142019
It's Ubuntu Monospace.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I would say f*ck off but it is not appropriate — Erogol 11 mins ago
lol
 
lol
 
user142019
lol
 
2:03 AM
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what we call an unfunny shitposter
(Though maybe the first version was correct after all)
:v
 
So I may have polluted the magical environment around the base.
Still, could be something else. Probably.
 
user142019
Vim looks beautiful with Ubuntu Monospace and Wombat.
 
You lost me at Vim
 
DejaVu owns
 
user142019
Monaco is also great.
 
2:06 AM
I left a bait comment I expect great results
 
user142019
Consolas is also very nice, except for the terrible italic lowercase L.
 
@CatPlusPlus Aren't all of your comments bait comments?
 
I don't know what you're talking about
My hands all are dried up again, damn cold
 
user142019
Oh hey MySpace has been rewritten.
 
user142019
Do people still use that shit.
 
user142019
2:08 AM
It's worse than Facebook.
 
Your what
 
@Zoidberg No
 
user142019
@CatPlusPlus new.myspace.com
 
I know what MySpace is
 
user142019
Me too.
 
2:12 AM
did the joke go over your head
I heard the woosh from the other side of the world
 
Does f<X>(a) perform ADL?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No
 
Ah, thought so. Suxxors.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ADL?
 
Argument-dependent lookup.
 
2:13 AM
Ah
 
user142019
Software y u suck.
 
@LucDanton How do you do make a generic get for any tuple-like, then?
 
User y u so dumb
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I have adl::get if that's what you're after?
 
Hmm, and how do you get ADL?
 
2:18 AM
Okay sorry let me fix my previous answer. Lookup fails unless there's an appropriate (not sure how?) name in the scope, in which case ADL takes place.
so get<0>(my_std_tuple) doesn't work. using std::get; get<0>(my_not_so_std_tuple); might end up using ADL.
 
Ahhhhhhhh.
 
int a = int(int(int(int(int(2))))) + 2 is equivalent to a = 2 + 2 right?
 
Ell
Yesh
 
@doug65536 Other than being utterly insane, yes.
 
lol, just looking at some funny preprocessor output and was 99% sure that was ok. thx
 
2:34 AM
wow you really can't cast -(intptr_t)1 to a void* in gcc 4.7?
 
Why would you do that
 
to get the stupid INVALID_HANDLE_VALUE literal in an RAII template
its -1 but actually a void *, its a ~(uintptr_t)0 void*
 
Ell
how can uint be -1?
 
its not unsigned. look again
or is that what you mean? I should be doing ~(uintptr_t)0 and that will convert to void*
 
@doug65536 reinterpret_cast<void*>(-1) works.
 
2:41 AM
Compiler actually says could not convert template argument '18446744073709551615u' to 'void*'
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'll try that
 
Wait, is this for a template argument?
 
user142019
> Cauliflower thread.
 
yes
 
You cannot use reinterpret_cast in constant expressions.
 
user142019
Oh /b/.
 
2:42 AM
So you are kind of out of luck, I think.
 
wow, worked in msvc. it's almost like msvc is "another" c++
 
Yeah, it does not surprise me that MSVC has some extension to make that work.
 
its an RAII template where the first template parameter is the type, and the 2nd is the "invalid value" null, -1, INVALID_HANDLE_VALUE, etc.
 
Fucking cross-compile docs are ALWAYS WRONG
 
Ell
@doug why do you need tk cast if you specify the type yourself?
I'm confused
 
2:45 AM
I don't know. it's being cast to void* already before being specified
 
Good evening folks
 
its a literal void*. like how to you write a literal short: (short)13
 
Does anyone know anything about socket security?
 
Ell
I thought void* had implicit casts
 
There's no implicit cast from integral expressions other than 0 to pointers
Pointers are not integers
 
2:46 AM
@Ell From other pointers
 
I'm trying to shoehorn (void*)~(uintptr_t)0 into a template parameter (the goofy INVALID_HANDLE_VALUE in win32)
 
@doug65536 Yeah, but that is a static_cast.
 
Can pointers even be template arguments
 
(void*)-1 is a reinterpret_cast.
 
user142019
@CatPlusPlus Yes, if they are extern or something I believe.
 
2:48 AM
@CatPlusPlus If they have external linkage, o something.
 
Anybody else seeing what looks like a bit of a hiccup on SO? For me it's showing no new questions in over a half hour, and most tags are showing as no questions at all.
 
Also what do you need it for, seriously
@JerryCoffin That's a reason to celebrate!
 
Don't need external linkage anymore but string literals still suck ;_;
 
user142019
Use a decent language.
 
@JerryCoffin Woah, last queston 35 minutes ago...
 
2:48 AM
its for an RAII thing. say if you wanted RAII for CreateFile's idiotic INVALID_HANDLE_VALUE error value, you'd use AutoCloseHandle which actually uses AutoDestruct<HANDLE,INVALID_HANDLE_VALUE>
 
NO MORE BAD QUESTIONS
 
@JerryCoffin Wasn't paying attention, but now, yeah, I see it. 51 minutes for C++, for me.
 
WinAPI wrappers already exist
 
@CatPlusPlus do you mean for secure sockets
 
2:51 AM
No, RAII, what sockets what
 
Is this the Collin that pops up here from time to time?
Seems not.
 
I've been on a few times, but likely not.
 
I'm Collin Biedenkapp
 
2:51 AM
@CatPlusPlus if you all feel like above some mental threshold, I am ok being under 13 ... I looked for an simple answer and get lots of junky comments from higly reputated users. If you reputate such egocentric people with some below capabilities ban me out. But please also check your site's mentality as well. — Erogol 38 mins ago
 
Ah not quite the same shade.
 
Either way, I'm trying to get some data across a raw socket securely.
Any recommendations?
 
Check your mentality~
@CollinBiedenkapp Define securely
Also why the hell are you using raw sockets for
If you have to ask questions like that you should not be using them
 
well, hang on
when I saw raw, I mean winsock sort of sockets
I have a custom server system that uses a clear-text based command API.
I don't want to send things over clear text though
 
2:53 AM
It appears GCC needs another goat sacrifice :(
 
especially not authentication tokens, etc.
 
Well, TLS
 
And I'm all out of goats.
 
Just find a library that implements what you want
 
cryptoapi in win32 has a lot of stuff to help with that
 
2:54 AM
 
No don't use CryptoAPI you don't know how to use CryptoAPI
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes dafuq
 
I am about to pull my hair out after trying to get crytoapi working
 
@Rapptz I've seen an entire thread with these
 
2:55 AM
I understand network programming at its core, but the security/encryption part is still fuzzy to me
 
@doug65536 CryptoAPI is actually harder to use well than doing things entirely on your own. (Well, I'm probably exaggerating, but not a whole lot).
 
@CatPlusPlus didn't claim it was new
 
@Borgleader Means there is a weird bug stopping me from making progress and I don't have a workaround (goat to sacrifice).
 
I mean I'd find it but I can't
 
woah, woah.
 
2:55 AM
ITT cat sucks.
 
It's probably behind paywall or in archives already anyway
 
What's with the goat references?
 
2:58 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes you must really be doing weird shit, if you ran into a bug
 
@Borgleader Not really.
Variadic template expansion is still somewhat finicky.
[rmf@persephone tuple]$ grep goat . -RI
./tuple.h++:    // wait a moment! GCC needs a goat sacrifice
./tuple.h++:    // GCC needs another goat sacrifice
[rmf@persephone tuple]$
 

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