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9:00 PM
Yes, it's so stupid to not divide by zero
 
user1182183
but i'm just curious if there is a better way than if(var == 0) or +0.00000001
 
user142019
I use Git for Hexapoda so I get revisions almost for free.
 
You're stupid to divide by zero.
 
No, stop being bad at coding
You're worse at it than @Mysticial geez
 
@Ell many
 
user142019
9:00 PM
:(
 
base class undefined...
 
@Ell depends. ask anyway
 
... Oh lord, I have to tango with my #include <> jungle.
 
@CatPlusPlus How can I be bad at it if I don't even know it?
 
Let the headdesk begin.
 
user142019
9:01 PM
@ThePhD class undefined {}; problem solved.
 
hmm, my Boost echo works if echo.exe &èçà >test.txt && cat test.txt
 
@Mysticial Well how can you be good at it if you don't know it
 
now to figure out what that means
 
@Mysticial that's the easiest way to do that
 
Did you think about that?
 
Ell
9:01 PM
@NolwennLeGuen let's say I have public Enumerable<int> A() and public int B() can I create something like Func<either<Enumerable<int>, int>>?
then check the type dynamically?
 
@rubenvb see. it's the actual output stream
 
@CatPlusPlus Well I'm not good at it.
:)
 
@sehe but how does cat know about the encoding?
 
Haha holy shit
I removed one include and I got over 100 errors
 
Typical
 
9:02 PM
Jesus christ, I've never had a more thinly-balaned project in my life.
 
@Ell simplest: use IEnumerable<int> for both cases. Instead of return 42; write yield return 42; there. Don't expect top performance :)
 
user142019
Typicial.
 
@rubenvb You ask the programmers. I assume they learnt the hard way too
 
@Ell You know there's a C# room, right?
 
I always know about the encoding
 
user142019
9:03 PM
@FredOverflow Of course, it's called Lounge<C++>.
 
@FredOverflow Yeah, but it's terrible
 
@Ell Uh. What? int can't be converted to IEnumerable<int> (nor the other way around) so either you do Func<object> either you Func<dynamic>. Otherwise, put the int in an IEnumerable on its own.
 
user142019
Lounge<C++> is the everything-not-Java-nor-PHP-nor-VB-room.
 
Ell
@FredOverflow Yeah, I just asked in there, but then Nolwenn asked me to ask
@NolwennLeGuen ahh you can do Func<dynamic>?
 
@Ell second idea: use dynamic and expect even less performance <-- hint: press tongue in cheek while reading
 
user142019
9:03 PM
dynamic is awesome.
 
Don't use dynamic
 
@sehe Purrformance.
 
user142019
DUCK TYPING
 
Type that duck.
 
@Ell Yes but you're gonna lose all type safety and performance. It's neat though.
 
user142019
9:04 PM
DUCT TAPING
 
dynamic doesn't lose type safety
 
Compile time type safety.
 
user142019
How do you call a database of bug reports?
 
user142019
A bug database?
 
> Guesting is Coming!
AT LAST
 
9:05 PM
@sehe notepad++ says the file is ANSI. I guess that means lucky me it worked.
 
Typechecking not type safety
 
@rubenvb Notepad++ sucks. I'd not trust that puny verdict.
 
user142019
Notepad++ is terrible.
 
Also did you know that dynamic typing is a subset of static typing :v
 
user142019
Use Vim (or, if you're lazy and don't yet know Vim, Sublime Text 2).
 
9:06 PM
Hi guys
 
user142019
Hi noob.
 
@rubenvb (Of course, Notepad++ works really well, but I fully expect it to conclude ANSI if there is no BOM)
 
huh
 
Ell
@Zoidberg it's great imho
 
@Zoidberg I find that '2' very awkward in there
 
9:06 PM
@Zoidberg it ain't even lie
 
Ell
Also, I forgot why I asked my question :/
 
Is there a way to set an icon for an .exe after it's made? I just get the default and it looks bad
 
user142019
@sehe how come?
 
@rubenvb It's basically the behaviour of Notepad (MS)
 
user142019
It's called Sublime Text 2.
 
9:07 PM
@CatPlusPlus Nono, it's compile time type safety. Type-checking is a broader concept.
 
user142019
Notepad++ is Notepad but with ++.
 
I'm having some trouble with a part of my code, can I ask you a look please?
 
@Zoidberg I just do. I don't think it rolls of the tongue nicely and it doesn't really add much information. I mean, it's not a version number thingie, right
 
@newbie If it's just a couple of lines, sure. Otherwise, asking on stack overflow will give you much better answers much quicker.
 
y I write in a "pseudocode"
 
user142019
9:08 PM
@newbie this is the C++ room, not the C room.
 
@newbie Usually this is where we point at Stack Overflow and/or ask to read:
Jan 7 at 5:26, by Rapptz
If you don't want to be hated here, read the Newbie Hints.
@newbie The good news is, there are never problems in pseudo code :)
 
Please, for the love of Knuth, 'code' is a mass noun. You don't write 'codes' and you don't need 'a code'. It's just code, okay?
 
@newbie i==8 inside a for loop that stops at 8 doesn't make sense. i will only go from 0 to 7.
 
@Zoidberg To be fair, there is no C room.
 
user142019
@EtiennedeMartel I thought there was Lounge<C>.
 
9:09 PM
Jan 5 at 2:19, by Zoidberg'--
> [In pseudocode, keywords are all caps, blocks are ended with END and you use indentation.]
 
@EtiennedeMartel Whoever said we were "fair"? :P
 
@EtiennedeMartel Hear hear
 
@Zoidberg I think it's dead.
 
user142019
Well it's still there. :P
 
We're expert assholes
 
9:09 PM
You're right, I'm sorry, I write an example of the problem, create children and store their exit values
 
You store your children's exit values?
 
What is up with people coming in here and being polite while asking questions?
 
it's what I'm trying to do
 
I mean, if they were rude and confrontational I would at least feel entitled to troll the shit out of them.
 
9:10 PM
lulz
 
But now I can't, unless I want to look like an asshole, and I've got my "only sane man" reputation to maintain.
 
I just noticed there's an "upload" button next to the "send" button.
 
@EtiennedeMartel You've got a "sane man" reputation?
 
@NolwennLeGuen Nono
 
@NolwennLeGuen welcome to the Chat :)
 
9:11 PM
@CatPlusPlus yesyes
 
@GamErix It appears to be fake
@TonyTheLion I'm trying.
 
@EtiennedeMartel ohh right :)
 
user1182183
@EtiennedeMartel (he doesn't need to know, sssst)
 
@GamErix Look, kid, you've got no credibility around here.
 
user142019
I should also create a web interface to Hexapoda.
 
9:13 PM
Weren't you doing something else
Like yesterday
What was it
 
user142019
No.
 
Zoidlang
 
user142019
I did about nothing yesterday.
 
user142019
No Zoidlang was last week.
 
Ugh...
I've broken my entire Repo now...
 
user142019
9:13 PM
noob
 
Grats
 
Just from trying to include one file..
 
You've beaten puppy at VCS incompetence
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@TonyTheLion Green energy
 
9:14 PM
Header-only, curse you. Curse yoooou. ;~;
 
@NolwennLeGuen no. shit. you found the easter egg!
@ThePhD Wut? Blessed header-only
 
@ThePhD Actually curse C++ compilation model
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, he's really bad, isn't he?
 
@ThePhD Wait. An include broke your.... repository? Switch VCS
 
user142019
TIL about void.
 
user142019
9:15 PM
void is awesome.
 
Boy, this is exhausting.
Hi.
 
@Zoidberg void*? :D
Hiyo.
 
Damn I really want to write something in Factor
 
well guess what. WriteConsoleW works
 
9:15 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Tell the boy to go slower. Also, hi.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Too much wanking.
 
Fucking uni
 
then do it.
 
@rubenvb Told you
 
for one character
 
9:16 PM
@sehe When I said Repo I meant my entire project.
 
fuck
 
Everything in it just went tits-up.
 
user142019
@ThePhD No void = fmap (const ()).
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Robot!
You weren't on the chat
 
Lovefilm stopped working on my Xbox
meh
 
9:16 PM
We were worried
 
@ThePhD Oh good. Proceed
 
@CatPlusPlus I am never in the chat between ~17-~22 now.
 
@CatPlusPlus My God, you do care after all.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What is?
 
Maybe it was just a problem all along but I had managed to ducttape the whole thing.
 
9:17 PM
@sehe My days.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Of course I care I love you guys :(
8
 
@EtiennedeMartel He has a heart!
 
@CatPlusPlus <3
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes So, maybe have fewer of them?
 
@ThePhD Me too!
 
9:17 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes A heart of silicon.
 
@Zoidberg There's also Void
And absurd
Which are totally unrelated
But still cool
 
Voidberg
 
@CatPlusPlus That's pretty much worthless.
 
absurdberg
 
9:18 PM
But cool
 
undeadburg
 
user142019
fmap (const ())berg
 
Welp
No matter what I do
 
user142019
I prefer void $ x over x >> return ().
 
> "What is the pattern Bridge used for?"
 
9:19 PM
I cannot salvage whatever I've done.
 
@ThePhD what did you do
 
@NolwennLeGuen To cross a river.
 
@NolwennLeGuen I included a file in another, and I watched my entire project explode in a fiery explosion of doom.
 
@ThePhD How about taking off the include?
 
@ThePhD Circular dependencies?
 
9:20 PM
@ThePhD You really are bad at VCS
 
Also why are you not using a VCS
 
@Rapptz It wasn't compiling before, now it just has additional errors.
 
Well, suck less.
 
@NolwennLeGuen I haven't checked in in the last day.
Do you know the progress I'd lose?
 
@ThePhD You kind of asked for it then
 
9:20 PM
26 secs ago, by Cat Plus Plus
@ThePhD You really are bad at VCS
 
;~;
 
@ThePhD Has someone told you lately that you suck?
 
I did a couple lines ago.
 
@ThePhD How big is your project?
 
@NolwennLeGuen Uh. I dunno.
How do I even count that?
 
9:21 PM
You should be committing every 10 minutes
 
SLoC? File count?
 
what is SLoC?
Something lines of code?
 
@ThePhD You don't know how big your project is? Tell me this isn't true for the rest of your body?
 
@ThePhD Does it make you want to kill yourself?
 
@ThePhD kSLoC
 
9:22 PM
@Rapptz Source
 
When in doubt, go low Win32 API.
 
@NolwennLeGuen Uh. ... Maybe?
.... o_O;
 
user142019
(added)
 
See here for solution to all the world's problems: github.com/rubenvb/UnixToolsForWindows/blob/master/echo/…
 
I'm going to go curl up in this corner now.
 
9:23 PM
@ThePhD curl sucks, use wget
 
> UnixToolsForWindows / echo / echo.cpp
> * - date: write the date and time
 
Ooh, hey
 
user142019
@rubenvb grep :(
 
You can't add comments to lines of code why :(
 
~500 Files
 
9:24 PM
lol
 
@CatPlusPlus lol, fail.
 
@ThePhD and you didn't make sure it compiled?
 
@ThePhD Ah. Kill yourself then.
 
@CatPlusPlus Because GitHub sucks.
 
you srs?
 
user142019
9:25 PM
GitHub is awesomesauce.
 
there
 
@Rapptz Um. I was in the middle of implementing something. Then I added that include and AAAGH everything went to hell.
 
fixed.
 
GH is highly overrated
 
Trying to fix it has yielded even more errors. There's a circular dependency somewhere but I can't trace it.
 
9:26 PM
wut are u guis using instead of GH
 
What is GH?
 
@CatPlusPlus whatchatrying to comment on?
 
OH
 
@NolwennLeGuen BitBucket.
 
@ThePhD Growth Hormone
 
9:26 PM
Github. Derp derp context clues.
 
@rubenvb That you suck
 
oh thanks.
Why?
 
@NolwennLeGuen For my tiny project? <3
 
@rubenvb why's the last one seperate?
 
@rubenvb On your comments.
 
9:26 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes is it good (compared to GH)
 
@NolwennLeGuen bitbucket, googlecode
 
+1 for CC0.
 
@MooingDuck I was planning on a newline. But I see that's unnecessary now.
 
@rubenvb so fix it
 
Google Code was interesting when it was still all SVN and the only other choice was SourceForge
 
9:28 PM
lol
you guys are so helpful.
 
Google Code sucks
 
@CatPlusPlus XDDDDDDDDDDDDD omg my sides
 
help me write grep in Boost.Regex and I'll love you.
 
@NolwennLeGuen github isn't bad, which immediately sends software developers into a shellshock of awe, because they know what software is usually like. Also, before, we had just Sourceforge (urfff) and Berlios (gasp) and the likes...
@rubenvb thank you
 
9:29 PM
git is bad.
 
> 1190 days, 14 consecutive
 
@rubenvb Welcome to le lounge
 
@Abyx it has no upside
 
... How the fuck
ALL hte circular dependencies @___@
 
@Abyx you're bad
 
9:29 PM
@ThePhD Simple: you suck.
 
Welp, I'm not leaving this chair for a long time...
 
> 709 days, 15 consecutive
 
@NolwennLeGuen I am.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh cmon I'm not that bad. :c
 
@NolwennLeGuen I'd say so.
 
9:30 PM
I'm dropping the ball ^
 
@ThePhD You should get out more
 
@NolwennLeGuen FYI I'm not new. I just have unrealistic expectations of internet chat rooms.
 
@rubenvb welcome to the internet. you're still new if you have expectations
5
 
@ThePhD Failing at VCS more than the puppy is quite an achievement in suckage.
No offense intended to pups.
 
@CatPlusPlus Tomorrow, actually, I'm going out. I'm going to Panera bread to talk to a girl.
 
9:30 PM
Where is puppy anyway
 
@CatPlusPlus He needs one of these ejecting pilot chairs, maybe /cc @ThePhD
 
@NolwennLeGuen I find that expectations make for an entertaining evening.
 
Last I heard he was having explosive diarrhoea.
 
lol explosive.
 
the great starstorm of our time
 
9:31 PM
 
@NolwennLeGuen You haven't seen anything.
 
@ThePhD bread?
 
Also, stop starring everything.
 
Okay, stop now
 
@NolwennLeGuen PK Starstorm.
 
9:31 PM
@ThePhD talk?
 
Yeah Abyx. What, you want him to sleep with her on the first date?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Just so long as no one uses PK Thunder.
 
There, party successfully pooped.
 
see you guys later
 
@ThePhD PK Thunder isn't that good. Usually it simply misses. But it does wreck shields.
 
9:32 PM
@sehe It's the name of a nice little eatery. Panera Bread
 
@Rapptz talking and fucking aren't mutually exclusive
@ThePhD of course. I forgot
 
@sehe "So I was reading this article..."
 
Is the cat in @CatPlusPlus 's gravatar actually his?
 
@NolwennLeGuen time for a minfulness training
 
9:33 PM
@EtiennedeMartel parce que
 
Yes it's my avatar
 
@Rapptz three guesses
 
Thanks for noticing
 
@sehe I'm guessing no because it looks weird.
 
lol
 
@Rapptz Bingo
 
Then I guess "Yes" because that is the second guess
and that means both should be right somehow.
 
@ThePhD "Power Up with the new spinach power salad". How do they even come up with these titles.
 
@EtiennedeMartel good reason
 
Third is "file not found"
 
9:34 PM
@EtiennedeMartel sigh, décidément, tu n'as pas compris :(
 
@NolwennLeGuen I'm not sure. I would have much rather gone to a Thai place, I didn't get to do the choosing.
 
@Rapptz It's a common reaction face actually
 
@NolwennLeGuen Popeye
 
@NolwennLeGuen Je déteste quand les gens utilisent "pk" au lieu de "pourquoi".
 
@NolwennLeGuen Never seen it.
 
9:35 PM
@EtiennedeMartel cringe more
 
user142019
School y u no Python.
 
@NolwennLeGuen moi non plus
 
user142019
Oh wait, of course. Teachers only know Java.
 
I hate online media.
 
@NolwennLeGuen ah. I cringe too.
 
9:35 PM
They find a little rock on mars and then "FLOWER FOUND ON MARS"
 
is XSI useful?
nvm
I'm outta here
 
user142019
Goodbye friend.
 
@rubenvb shit. missed my chance to be helpful
 
user142019
lol
 
user142019
9:37 PM
One of my teachers knows Haskell.
 
user142019
He should teach Haskell.
 
user142019
Not Java.
 
@Zoidberg Is she pretty?
 
Facebook Graph Search, because I totally want to search through the shitty music my friends listen to.
 
user142019
@sehe IMO, he is not pretty.
 
9:37 PM
@sehe > He
 
@Zoidberg I meant, Haskell.
 
it's ugly
 
user142019
@sehe Well, Haskell as a programming language is pretty.
 
user142019
@Abyx You are ugly. Butt-ugly.
 
@Zoidberg I was asked if I wanted to teach FP next year. I said yes, but only if I could replace Lisp with Haskell and Scala :)
 
9:38 PM
perl is better.
 
@Abyx you must be kidding
 
user142019
@FredOverflow hehe cool :P
 
user142019
What dialect of Lisp?
 
@Zoidberg Oh, you meant Haskell the PL actually. I considered the odds too slim for that and dismissed the interpretation in favour of the more sensible one.
 
@FredOverflow that's modern :) i'd love to have you as a teacher
 
user142019
9:39 PM
Clojure sans the JVM part is quite sane.
 
well.... actually I hardly can tell perl from haskell
 
@NolwennLeGuen I wish I could be in Fred's classes.
 
Maybe because you don't know either
 
It sounds like I'd just rock out all day.
 
@Zoidberg I think it was Scheme when I took the course ten years ago.
 
9:39 PM
@Abyx cough
 
user142019
@sehe Haskell Curry is already dead. I'd have said knew if I meant him.
 
user142019
@FredOverflow oh lol :P
 
@ThePhD You're welcome to visit my lecture. Next monday, it's Quicksort and lambdas :)
 
@rubenvb "goodbye". comes back 3 mins later
 
user142019
9:40 PM
If you teach Haskell I'll instantly move to Germany and learn German and make sure I can get my ass in university.
 
user142019
Because polytechnic is terrible.
 
@NolwennLeGuen lol
Now I'm really outta here
third times the charm
 
@FredOverflow I need a quicksort refresher. I had no idea how to do Insertion Sort or Quicksort for an interview.
 
POOF!
 
really really really really really really really really really really really really outtahere
2
 
9:41 PM
I still managed to solve the problem anyway and get the internship, but I was sweating bullets. ;~;
 
@ThePhD I made a diagram for Insertionsort a couple of days ago...
 
@FredOverflow Giveigivegiviegigegiegeivegieveigivegivegive
 
@rubenvb nice find. also thanks for the note
 
If you intend to star my messages, fine, but then please do it en masse, otherwise you're just ruining my average amount of stars per starred post. Thank you.
5
 
9:42 PM
^ My fingers end up performing non-locking printf when I try to type that fast....
 
@NolwennLeGuen dream on
 
user142019
@FredOverflow is that quicksort?
 
user142019
Oh wait insertionsort.
 
@Zoidberg I'd think that learning German would be much harder than learning Haskell :)
 
@sehe It says "star a lot or don't star at all". One star is sad.
 
user142019
9:43 PM
@FredOverflow I already know a part of German!
 
@Zoidberg "Mochtest Du ein Darmspülung?"
 
user142019
In third class of high school I often got graded with twos and threes.
 
@ThePhD may I suggest Czerny, Hanon and, less relevant, Pischna
 
Ah good, I see we're making progress.
 
user142019
I heard 2 and 3 are pretty good for German!
 
user142019
9:43 PM
:D
 
user142019
@FredOverflow Nein danke.
 
@FredOverflow Du isn't capitalized. Also, NEIN
 
@Zoidberg You could also take my Scala seminar which starts in April.
 
@ThePhD std::partition, then recurse on left, then recurse on right.
 
@sehe Depends on who you talk to. I like to capitalize it.
 
user142019
9:44 PM
@FredOverflow That means I'd have to make sure I can enter university before April.
 
user142019
Or is your school polytechnic uni? :P
 
@FredOverflow ....
 
@sehe I've never been into classical piano, and what I do listen to of anything peripherally related to it ends up being bastardized:
 
@Zoidberg I don't know what polytechnic uni means.
 
user142019
 
9:45 PM
@ThePhD it actually only has tangential relation to music genre
@Zoidberg repost
 
user142019
MBO means dumbass, HBO means lazy-ass, WO means professor.
 
user142019
I'm in HBO.
 
user142019
I think that's called polytechnic in English.
 
@Zoidberg MBO means wannabe. Dumbasses quit before
 
I like how in this question Generic Retry Mechanism - Cannot use C++11 features, every answer uses C++11. (except for the C answer)
 
user142019
9:46 PM
@sehe :P
 
@sehe When it comes to piano, I prefer Keith Jarrett.
 
user142019
It's basically one level before university.
 
And I can assure you he knows his way around those etudes :)
He's one heck of a cross-genre pianist
 
user142019
It's basically one level beneith university.
 
user142019
How can I explain lol.
 
user142019
9:47 PM
Education system y u no global.
 
Because globals are evil? ;)
 
...
 
.... Sigh.
I can't figure out where the circular dependency is.
 
user142019
I hope to go to university once I get my propedeutics.
 
@Zoidberg Oh wait, before you can take the FP course, you have to suffer through two semesters of Java :)
 
9:49 PM
Including ShaderResource.h somehow brings up Texture.h
I'm so confuuused >_<
 
user142019
@FredOverflow Only two semesters? I can have that. Better than about three years I'll have here.
 
@MooingDuck The OP edited the question after the answers were posted.
 
user142019
And German > Java.
 
user142019
When I get my propedeutics I'll go to Universiteit Utrecht.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I love hist renditions of Shostakovich to death (e.g. youtube.com/watch?v=jpGh3G48WsM and youtube.com/watch?v=U2lqOdexxlo)
@Zoidberg Oh hey. When did you decide that
 
user142019
9:51 PM
@sehe a recursion while ago.
 
@Zoidberg You didn't tell me.
 
user142019
@sehe That may be true.
 
@Zoidberg A number of goto's agoto's agoto's agoto's ago
 
user142019
A teacher once asked who of the students still uses gotos.
 
user142019
I raised my hand and the teacher quaked in fear.
 
9:52 PM
@Zoidberg When do you, except to shock the teach?
 
user142019
When they make code more readable.
 
All those times!?
 
user142019
That's almost only in C when using a lot of branches and returns, to clean up resources since C has no RAII or GC.
 
9
A: Does the unary + operator have any practical use?

Pete Beckerchar ch = 'a'; std::cout << ch << '\n'; std::cout << +ch << '\n'; The first insertion writes the character a to cout. The second insertion writes the numeric value of ch to cout. But that's a bit obscure; it relies on the compiler applying integral promotions for the + o...

neat
 
@Zoidberg Me too
 
user142019
9:54 PM
Though, with clang's blocks, I can actually rewrite Haskell's bracket in C. :D
 
user142019
@FredOverflow Boost.Spirit :D
 
@Zoidberg lol
 
@Zoidberg I think if you do it precisely always the same way, it can be understable, but I know don't where I read that, 99% of gotos can be replace by function calls.
 
"Spirit is the answer!"?
 
@Zoidberg I'm not the spiritual person ;)
 
user142019
9:55 PM
Boost.Religion
 
user142019
Lame Dutch pun coming in.
 
user142019
 
Boost::spirit ?
 
@Zoidberg lame
 
user142019
lol
 
user142019
9:57 PM
There's also framboos and framblij.
 
wait, who's David? He knows of StackedCrooked's secret compiler!
 
@StephaneRolland Did someone call me?
 
Doesn't seem to work for me -- stacked-crooked.com/view?id=235071220bc8ba0e688b4b58051e182d might these be the rare encodings? — David 2 hours ago
 
@Zoidberg toooo lame
 
user142019
lol
 
9:58 PM
@MooingDuck That code sample....
 
@sehe I don't understand ",e" :-)
 
FUCK YEAH
 
@Zoidberg your puns are bad and you should feel bad
 
I'M DOWN TO 6 ERRORS
LIKE A SIR!
 
I just fixed that :)
 
user142019
9:58 PM
lol
 
Not calling you, I'm listening Jarett/Shostacovitch right now, I've nothing to say
 
@Zoidberg TERRIBRU
Image removed because of inferior quality
 
user142019
:(
 
@ThePhD I have come to the following conclusion: you either have 0 errors, or you have a randomly fluctuating number of errors.
 

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