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11:00 AM
Des canapés !!
 
Sofas?
 
DES CANAPES BARDELLE
 
STAHP speaking French
it's fugly
 
@TonyTheLion You don't know what a canapé is?
 
11:02 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I have a suspicion, which is why the question mark.
 
user142019
damn
 
A canapé (a type of hors d’œuvre, "outside work") is a small, prepared and usually decorative food, held in the fingers and often eaten in one bite. Name The name comes from the French word for "couch," drawing on the analogy that the garnish sits atop the bread as people do a couch. Details Because they are often served during cocktail hours, it is often desired that a canapé be either salty or spicy, in order to encourage guests to drink more. A canapé may also be referred to as finger food, although not all finger foods are canapés. Crackers or small slices of bread or toast or pu...
this?
 
No. That's not a sofa.
 
user142019
This library only works with lazy bytestrings.
 
user142019
And I am using strict bytestrings.
 
user142019
11:02 AM
:L
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I could have known I would embarrass myself yet again. :(
 
@TonyTheLion It is a sofa.
 
> The name comes from the French word for "couch,"
meh
 
> May I.ask how to download this song T_T who can teach.me

> step 1: remove pants
> step 2: insert fist into anus
> step 3: ?????????????
> step 4: profit

oh internet
 
user142019
Sounds like /b/.
 
11:03 AM
she's gone bat shit insane
 
for once I was right, and you trolled me into thinking I was wrong
I don't like you
@NolwennLeGuen dafuq?
 
@NolwennLeGuen Yeah, why step 1? Totally redundant.
 
user142019
Hello.
 
@Zoidberg is actually youtube
 
user142019
Same thing; /b/'s been there.
 
11:04 AM
@TonyTheLion meh big news
 
@NolwennLeGuen I wasn't talking to you
 
@TonyTheLion me neither
 
user142019
@TonyTheLion It's time for a new topic, I think.
 
shaddap
 
@TonyTheLion But, but... everyone likes me!
Right?
Right?
 
11:06 AM
right?
 
@TonyTheLion doo wop sha wada wada diggity boom she-bop
 
NO.
@sehe ohai
 
ohai
 
@sehe you seem to have an acute case of niggeritis
also hai
 
@NolwennLeGuen Coming back to that C++ baloney exam yesterday, the last exercise utterly confused me
 
11:07 AM
I'm unsure. I'd have to ask my doctor
 
@sehe best. entrance. ever.
 
@NolwennLeGuen as an optimization, you can skip step 1
 
Oh. Well basically you were supposed to have the following:
abstract Pion
PionBlanc : public virtual Pion
PionNoir : public virtual Pion
PionDouble : public PionBlanc, public PionNoir

or something
 
twas a reply to "shaddap". it made sense
I promise
 
11:08 AM
@sehe indeed it did... sort of. still, what an entrance! can't wait for the main act
 
@KonradRudolph what did you expect from a C++ exam anyway?
 
@NolwennLeGuen Yeah and then how do you mutate state in the double pion? The only way I see it with this f’ed up design is via the letter–envelope pattern and I think that goes beyond the teacher’s knowledge by far
 
@NolwennLeGuen échec, in both meanings of the word?
 
@NolwennLeGuen this about wine or something?
 
@NolwennLeGuen Dangerous question. I have given C++ exams and I think mine were better
 
11:09 AM
@thecoshman Yes.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I like wine
 
They have black wine in France.
 
@KonradRudolph I guess you save an enum, switch on it and call the appropriate base method?
 
@sehe In at least one. The described game certainly wasn’t chess
 
@sehe Your french really is good
 
11:10 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes they have pinotnoir... they probably spelling it correct, but they have it
 
@KonradRudolph Please, send me one of yours
 
@NolwennLeGuen Yeah, right. That’s the other point: when you have enum, what’s the point in separate classes any more? The redundancy is redundant!
 
user142019
@KonradRudolph Saying something is better than the exams Cicada showed is like saying something is better than PHP.
 
@thecoshman Yes, they probably spell it correctly.
 
@KonradRudolph No point at all. From an OOP perspective the first design is better, if only PionDouble inherited from Pion
 
11:10 AM
@KonradRudolph ah never mind. I meant: phew that's a relief
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes don't be too sure, they are french
 
@NolwennLeGuen Sorry I don’t have them any more – old laptop – and they were not supervised exams but take-home exercises anyway
 
@thecoshman You are saying that?
 
@NolwennLeGuen Well... I cheated because échec is also used in 'highbrow' dutch
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ... yes!
 
11:11 AM
@NolwennLeGuen YES.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes In his defense he spells nothing correctly.
He's worse than me.
 
@KonradRudolph Ah, and thus is born the fable of Konrad's Mythical C++ Tests.
 
@StackedCrooked hat eyes knot quit through
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's beautiful man
 
user142019
Mysticial C++ Tests FTFY
 
@KonradRudolph I'd like to try one of your exams :)
 
user142019
11:13 AM
@StackedCrooked Dan motte wel eerst Duits leren eej zenne.
 
@StackedCrooked You have a strange concept of "defense".
 
@Zoidberg oh Mystical has some too?
WHY DO I KEEP GETTING LOGGED OUT!
 
user142019
If Mysticial made C++ tests, what would they look like?
 
@StackedCrooked My favourite programming exercise (not exam) was after half a semester, where they had two weeks to implement an OpenMP parallelised read mapping tool based on the QUASAR filter (bioinformatics full steam ahead!)
 
user142019
@thecoshman because you're a noob!
 
11:14 AM
@Zoidberg "Compute the 9823792893rd digit of Pi. You have two hours"
 
I was so fucking proud that after less than half a year, one course a week, they were able to write a half-way decent parallelised C++ program with standard containers
 
user142019
@NolwennLeGuen No problem. Just download y-cruncher and be sure to have a damn monsterous machine. :P
 
but to be honest, most of the results were still atrocious ;)
 
Xeo
This is going to be fun. Nested tr1::bind expressions!
 
@KonradRudolph That's quite nice. Was it C++03 or C++11?
 
11:15 AM
@NolwennLeGuen Once again, I was about to say pretty much the same …
@StackedCrooked C++03
 
user142019
C++-11.
 
@NolwennLeGuen it's 5
 
@Xeo You too?
 
I'd still like someone to tell me how these people, who suck way more than I do, manage to get a job as developers.
 
Hey, that was years ago, well before C++11 – we still called it the mythical C++0x back then
 
Xeo
11:16 AM
@sehe Now you just need to be proven wrong. :)
 
user142019
A year ago we had C++11. C++11 came in December 2011, right?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes :D
@Zoidberg Actually, August IIRC.
 
@KonradRudolph I'd say "great minds think alike", but then Martinho is probably gonna say something like "dumb people think alike"
 
Xeo
C11 was December.
 
user142019
Oh yeah.
 
Xeo
11:17 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes The pain of working with GCC 4.4
 
user142019
Now I notice, I've been in the Lounge for more than a year now.
 
user142019
I have trolled you guys for over a year!
 
@NolwennLeGuen Yes, I always say that whenever I am not involved in the think aliking.
 
@Zoidberg I don't remember you trolling
 
@NolwennLeGuen “aliker”
 
11:19 AM
Ok, scratch that. I say that even when I am involved in the think aliking.
 
user142019
Guyz.
 
@TonyTheLion (uint)-1 or (int)-1? Because the first is a whole fucking lot, if you allow me.
 
@NolwennLeGuen int
 
14 hours ago, by Etienne de Martel
@NolwennLeGuen Cockburn?
 
user142019
I'm tired.
 
11:21 AM
@NolwennLeGuen oh dear... you still think getting a job has much to do with how good at programming you are
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes: Unlike the ape, my bind expressions will work. :)
4
 
@Xeo Don't let him hear that.
 
Xeo
gnyahahahaha
 
@Zoidberg the closest you ever get to trolling is saying C++ sucks
 
Xeo
They work. :)
@thecoshman Zoidlang is him trolling.
 
11:22 AM
@thecoshman well i don't know, tell me?
 
user142019
@thecoshman That's just the truth.
 
I concur.
 
@NolwennLeGuen erm... it has very little to do with it...
@Zoidberg it may be, and no one here really denies it
 
@thecoshman well I'm listening!
 
@Xeo that just falls under 'C++ sucks'
 
11:24 AM
@thecoshman I thought it fell under 'Zoidlang sucks'
 
@NolwennLeGuen bull shit, it's all about how well you can bull shit
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's both
 
@thecoshman I think I'm pretty good at that
 
@NolwennLeGuen I see through this bull shit though :P
 
@thecoshman a) you don't always see it b) I've been here for a few months now, so that's normal
 
obviously knowing how to program can help, but it is not all that matters. Bein 'the best' will count for nothing
@NolwennLeGuen hint: I do not react to everything
but more important the knowing how to program is being able to get across in a few minutes that you know what you are on about and that they need to hire you
easier said then done I'll grant you
 
user142019
11:27 AM
So I just got an email from a teacher with one giant blob of text lacking punctuation and capital letters. What the fuck.
 
user142019
*bin*
 
@thecoshman "i have boobs" ;_;
@Zoidberg reply something with a similar style?
 
user142019
Heh good one.
 
Xeo
@NolwennLeGuen Pics or it didn't happen.
 
@NolwennLeGuen sadly, that will work better then it should. There is far too much "we need to be sexist and hire more girls, so we don't look sexist for not hiring girls; even though, proportionally, we hire just as many girls; not that being a girl actually matters"
@Zoidberg do not use more then three words before you use a conjuncture
 
11:28 AM
@Xeo it didn't happen
 
@thecoshman I have no idea what you just said.
 
god I hope I used the right word there :S
 
Xeo
@NolwennLeGuen Damn.
 
Something about boobs, I guess.
@thecoshman I don't think so.
 
room topic changed to: Need more jQuery with penis.
 
11:30 AM
@NolwennLeGuen Waaaaat.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes words like 'and' and 'but'
 
@thecoshman "conjunctive"?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes bah, I was close enough :P
 
"conjuncture" means "state of affairs".
 
@NolwennLeGuen the last thing we need is more dick heads
@R.MartinhoFernandes is that so
welp, to late to edit now
 
11:32 AM
→ 1 message moved to bin
 
user142019
Italic fail.
 
@NolwennLeGuen ah, you got me :P
 
ITT Nolwenn tries to play room owner; says it didn't happen.
 
user142019
Cicada is just Boxxy but nobody knows that.
 
11:33 AM
have you guys noticed, someone made a 'recycle bin'... are they planning to reuse those messages at a later date when they suddenly seem acceptable and context happens to work for it?
 
@thecoshman No. That's just a place where messages are stored until they are taken to the Data Recycling Center to have their bits recycled.
 
I see...
 
user142019
I see…
 
How do you do that ellipsis?
 
1617: The Irish have no knowledge of soap, writes Moryson. When he presents some Dubliners with bars of soap, they "did eat them greedily".
 
user142019
11:44 AM
@TonyTheLion It's a character.
 
because it's not like three . following each other ...
 
@thecoshman How are the Irish doing four centuries later?
 
@KonradRudolph huh where you get that
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 1997: not much had changed.
 
@Zoidberg If that wasn't obvious already?!
 
user142019
11:44 AM
@TonyTheLion What do you want to know more about it?
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf From my memory. But the documentation corroborates it
 
@TonyTheLion some computers do it automatically when you type three periods
 
user142019
In OS X you type it with option+; with my keyboard layout.
 
@KonradRudolph could you please cite chapter and verse
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf FTR, the context is Perl.
 
11:45 AM
@Zoidberg How I get it on on my screen?
@thecoshman eh
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh sorry, lepr not c++
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ¬_¬ just fine, Portuguese still raping the new world?
 
@thecoshman You should review your history lessons.
 
@TonyTheLion well, programs
 
user142019
11:46 AM
lol Perl.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes are you claiming the Portuguese never went to the new world and pillaged?
 
@Cheers (Same in PHP and Ruby by the way)
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf yeah, common perl knowledge, if you know perl :P
 
thansk! i didn't notice it was about lepr
 
@KonradRudolph Maybe they drink liquid soap now.
@thecoshman That was mostly the Spanish.
 
11:49 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh, so sorry, I forget that if some else most people are killed by someone else, it excuses your crimes, carry on
 
@KonradRudolph That's not the New World.
 
true :p overlooked that
 
@KonradRudolph Brazil was independent since 1822.
 
… which is why I didn’t even bring it up ;)
 
11:51 AM
@thecoshman The Portuguese were more about slavery, and mostly in Africa.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ¬_¬ did not the Portuguese go to the new world... did not they rape and pillage... is not the crude ignorance of change in times obviously enough retaliating to implications you made?
 
@StackedCrooked Blocked here
 
For me it's only blocked in its embedded form.
On Youtube I can see it.
 
well. what do you know. A random joke solliciting random comments?
Or was the hippo legit?
 
11:57 AM
@thecoshman What I am saying is that there wasn't much to pillage from the natives in the Portuguese-held lands, so instead they enslaved them and sent them to mines and shit.
Was much more productive.
 
@sehe It was legit.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I am not going to start debating if brutal slavery is more or less ethical then raping and pillaging :P
 
@thecoshman Me neither. I am just saying it isn't the same.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no, and neither is it really what I was getting at, but never mind, the moment has gone
 
@thecoshman Though the natives were not enough, so they had to bring in more slaves from Africa.
 
12:02 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I thought it was more the 'quality' rather then the quantity?
 
@StackedCrooked the singing, though...
 
@thecoshman While the lands were sparsely populated, there was a fuckton of arable land to make fields out of. And the Amazonian forest was not going to chop itself.
(There is a reason Brazil is still one of the top agricultural powers)
Lunch.
 
Is lunch the reason?
 
always
 
Xeo
12:17 PM
		if (_command[1] == "win")
			m_forceFightResult = fightResultForceWin;
		if (_command[1] == "loose")
			m_forceFightResult = fightResultForceLoose;
Spot the error :|
(Also, damn tabs.)
 
index into _command is wrong
 
user142019
I'm going to make a Minecraft reference app for iOS.
 
Weren't you making a socket wrapper
Like yesterday
 
user142019
No.
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion It's more of a language error.
The indexing is correct.
 
user142019
12:21 PM
y u no else if
 
Xeo
@Zoidberg Not my code.
 
user142019
Assuming decltype(m_forceFightResult)::operator= doesn't change _command[1], which would be fucking terrible.
 
user142019
@Xeo "loose"
 
Xeo
Aye
:|
And I can't just change it, since I don't know where else they rely on that spelling.
 
user142019
:%s/loose/lose/g across all files. :P
 
Xeo
12:24 PM
That could wreak havoc... at large scale. :P
 
user142019
I had to work on code once at my former job, and at one place it generated XML by string concat, and somewhere else it parsed XML using string splitting and substr.
 
user142019
Rather than with dedicated XML libraries.
 
user142019
I didn't know that, so I went on and generated XML using an XML library somewhere else.
 
Xeo
Ouch.
 
user142019
Everything exploded! Why? The parsing with split and substr assumed ', while my XML generator used " for attributes.
 
user142019
12:26 PM
Why do morons write this shit.
 
user142019
Use a fucking XML library. It ain't rocket science.
 
Xeo
For my C++ semester exam at the GA I wrote my own XML parser. :)
 
user142019
Not to mention the issues we had with magic quotes, a wonderful PHP feature. :P
 
user142019
@Xeo :( *
 
Xeo
It was originally a path-finding exam, but we got our data from an XML.
@Zoidberg It worked. What was even better, a class mate struggled horribly with TinyXML and when I gave him my parser, it was all fine and dandy.
 
user142019
12:28 PM
I like TBXML.
 
user142019
For as far as XML parsers are likable.
 
@Xeo And this is why you use constants instead of literals
 
user142019
Also it's fast as fuck. :P
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Constants don't work so fine across multiple projects and languages.
(In this case, C++ server, Flash client and C# admin tool)
 
They do if you put some effort into the toolset
 
12:30 PM
The ultimate question is, when is a programmer a keyboard monkey and when is he a programmer?
 
Put them in a DSL, generate constants for target languages
 
user142019
@Xeo works fine if you write a tool that generates C++/C#/PHP/whatever headers with constants from a single text file.
 
Xeo
@Zoidberg As if they had thought of that when they began this project.
 
user142019
I'd use JSON because effort. :P
 
INI-likes are less effort than JSON
 
user142019
12:32 PM
Now I'm in the mood to write this.
 
user142019
@CatPlusPlus not if you write the tool in JavaScript.
 
Well don't write tools in JavaScript
Problem solved
 
Xeo
Don't write anything. Tooling problem solved.
 
user142019
for k, v of JSON.parse(data)
    file.write("auto constexpr #{k} = #{v};\n");
 
user142019
12:33 PM
Done.
 
@Xeo That's what I'm doing
Oh hey I failed the database exam :v
 
user142019
You are owned and you should feel owned.
 
@Xeo why are you stuck with GCC 4.4?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Deployment to old stuffs out there. Also, the buildmachine is CentOS 5, which only has GCC 4.4 by default. We're currently in the process of migrating to GCC 4.7, though.
 
@CatPlusPlus that mean you're as at databases as me? :P
 
12:37 PM
I didn't really prepare, because hey it's an exam and fuck exams
 
user142019
I don't prepare for exams either.
 
user142019
It's a waste of time.
 
I'm pretty sure the queries were okay, but how should I know if I can't test them
 
Exams mostly prepare for me.
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
Had Japanese exam yesterday. I fear it might not be so good this time.
 
user142019
12:38 PM
Teachers prepare for me to point out the errors in their exams.
 
@Xeo Ok. You probably noticed already, but 4.4 is still of the line with the particularly crappy error messages.
 
@StackedCrooked was there an interpretation of Hentai? :P
 
Seriously this whole MEMORISE EVERYTHING thing is ridiculous and getting boring
 
@StackedCrooked huh, what is it you're studying?
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Japanese.
 
user142019
12:38 PM
Japanese, Sherlock.
 
@CatPlusPlus I never memorise anything, I merely try to understand it.
 
@TonyTheLion Same here. I swear.
 
someone stoled our tent
yes
 
12:39 PM
are you drunk?
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked I want Japanese exams - that'd mean I'd actually be studying / learning Japanese. :(
 
You can't understand when the question is literally "what makes a good Access form (according to me, your almighty teacher)"
 
@TonyTheLion u cæn google it
 
user142019
@TonyTheLion They asked questions on my exam about the differences between ten points about usability from two authors of two books. Nothing to understand about it.
 
user142019
(Hint: this exam was terrible and invented by idiots.)
 
12:40 PM
@CatPlusPlus Nothing makes a good Access form, Access sucks and should be killed with fire.
 
Burned Access does not smell deliciooooooooooooooous.
 
@Zoidberg You can understand the points perhaps?
 
Or "write a query" when the much easier and more maintainable solution is to write two or three
 
user142019
@Cheersandhth.-Alf dat æ
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes smells better than unburned Access
 
user142019
12:40 PM
@TonyTheLion well give me the damn points.
 
...........................................
^ your points
 
user142019
This was merely an exam of HAVE YOU READ THE BOOKS.
 
@Xeo I find that I'm just as reluctant to study Japanese as I was when studying for exams in school.
 
And really a query with three nested queries full of joins doesn't exactly win in ~performance~ department either
 
user142019
(You had to memorize the points.)
 
user142019
Also if I wanted to study usability I'd go to a school about UX.
 
One of these days all I write on an exam will be "Butt Stallion says hello"
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
user142019
Not computer science oh God this school is horrible.
 
12:42 PM
omg it's @JohanLarsson
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf It's "someone stole our tent". Google even corrects you on it
 
@TonyTheLion no shit sherlock
 
what?
 
12:45 PM
0
Q: Load HBITMAP from *.bmp file in Win32 project

satuonIs it possible to load a *.bmp file into a HBITMAP in a Win32 project, without using any external libraries?

this question defeats itself?
@StackedCrooked oh look
 
@TonyTheLion ARAGHRJgtrdhe. That fucking silly restriction.
 
user142019
Dammit robot I wanted to post the same comment.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yep
 
@TonyTheLion Yes I see it :)
 
It's not possible to do anything without any external libraries
Any I/O will use one
 
user142019
12:47 PM
It is.
 
@Zoidberg For some reason I hear that in a text-to-speech voice.
 
user142019
Er, I meant third-party libraries I guess. Will edit. Since it's a Win32 project, it already uses Winapi. — satuon 29 secs ago
 
@Xeo what, the ape doesn't work?
 
Unless you happen to be in Windows team and know the syscall protocol
 
user142019
I doubt he's Microsoft.
 
12:48 PM
:v
 
user142019
The history of this message is terrible.
 
Here's more interesting question: stackoverflow.com/questions/14335704/…
Or maybe because I just like type unification
 
That's supposed to be funny or something?
 
YOU'RE SO GRUMPY AND YOU HATE FUN ROBOT
 
12:52 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes By the way, thanks for introducing CC0 to me – I’m currently working on my first CC0 licensed document
 
@KonradRudolph :)
 
It’s very [puts on sunglasses] liberating … yeeeeaaaah
 
@CatPlusPlus says the grumpiest of them all
 
@CatPlusPlus What? I was asking because if it is supposed to be funny, I might need some frog-killing.
 
" It would have to be, say, pornographic and residing in a non-Western country, in order to become illegal. And I can’t for the life of me think of any way to make an object pornographic, or make it reside in some specific geographic region." Made my day :D — Adri C.S. 17 mins ago
^ Well upbeat comments on old answers are nice. Now more c0ff33.
 
12:55 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Reading too much anti-joke cat, lately. Oh wait. What if ... the robot is the Anti-joke cat?!
 
Come on, are you guys saying that asymptotes are funny?
Where's the joke?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes They tend to.
9
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ---
 
for large enough values of X they get funnier
 
@LucDanton rofl
 
12:56 PM
@LucDanton Ok, now that one I get.
 
ITT Robot doesn't get a joke.
 
must be a first... normally it's always me that doesn't get it
 
-15
Q: write the program in c++

keerthan shettyA good City is defined as a city which has all the following properties: City name must have at least 7 characters. City must have an airport. 70% of the people who are aged 18 or above should be educated. (Calculate the total number of people above age 18 using the given data to solve this cond...

TIL Berlin is one character short of being a good city.
 
12:58 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Berlin has an airport, and one that is... asymptotically getting completed
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
@sehe Please don't talk about it. :(
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes wow. -15.
 

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