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5:31 AM
@Rapptz is that code intentionally obfuscated
 
user457812
Does having unreadable colors count as obfuscation?
 
not unelss they're very wild
i was thinking of lambda that decrements a local, instead of decrementing directly
and silly name i for a character
so on
pretty extreme to do boost::lexical_cast for a digit, also
 
user457812
I think i counts as stupidity, u would be obfuscation.
 
5:55 AM
well i don't think one can be stupid and write code like that
anyway I answered yet another question
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A: How do I get this to work--2 critical errors that I don't understand?

Cheers and hth. - AlfMost probably your [.cpp] file is not part of the project's source files, and thus it's not compiled, and no corresponding object code file is linked. Reproducing the error: [d:\dev\test] > type nul >bah.rc [d:\dev\test] > rc /nologo bah.rc [d:\dev\test] > dir /b *.res bah.res [d:\dev\test]...

but, should I have presented that code?
 
user457812
6:08 AM
Will it lead to further confusion?
 
user457812
If so: yes.
 
user457812
I still jump between it and vim.
 
6:53 AM
hey guys , I was wondering if there is a mathematical way to wrap values between 0 and a MAX_VALUE,
for eg if less than 0 become 128 , if 129 become 0 , I know that the upper limit can be implemented by using % but what about the lower limit (except ofcourse , using an if or a ternary statement)
 
Are you sure you want 128 and not 127 instead?
Because with 127, you could just say y = x & 127.
 
@angryInsomniac The math is simple but the details for any given programming language are tricky. C++98 did not specify the rounding for negative result division. Happily in C++11 it's well specified, namely in towards zero. From this you can figure out the result of a modulo operation.
An alternative to thinking, is just plain old experimentation. :-)
 
@chris Effective C++ is a bit dated. IIRC, it talks about what to do if your compiler does not support static_cast yet :)
 
i'm boiling potatoes with a view towards supplementing them with heated cabbage rolls filled with minced meat thing. they're originally fried.
this as an alternative to replacing my head with the cabbage
 
@Rapptz If haven't used a defrag program since using multiple hard drives. Just move the stuff from one harddrive to another and then back again, voila, it's defraged. And frankly, I don't bother doing that anymore, either. Has anybody ever actually noticed a speed gain from defrag? Or is it just for getting this warm, fuzzy feeling of structure and order on the hard drive? :)
 
7:04 AM
@angryInsomniac oh and yes, with 0 as the lower limit you can always do the oh-so-clever cast to unsigned type, then do modulo.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf will try that :P thanks :)
 
^ Not quite the same cause no tomato sauce here, also would have been nice with that good serving of corn
@angryInsomniac oh, you're welcome
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf You can always call any methods on rvalue expressions, even non-const methods. That's what makes std::string("hello") = "world"; work :)
@Cheersandhth.-Alf That will only work if the divisor is a power of two.
 
@FredOverflow yes, you're right. where was it i wrote that dumb statement?
@FredOverflow no, it will always work, as long as upper limit is reasonably not-huge.
because any negative value ends up as a very large positive one
also, on modern computer treats the cast as a no-op ;-)
thanks!
@FredOverflow or, come to think of it, the negative value also has to be reasonably not-huge
 
7:15 AM
so, this means i'm pretty tired without knowing it, yes?
mind not working
that trick only useful for checking whether number is in range
reality check: isn't it?
 
7:47 AM
Hello, Anyone here?
 
8:41 AM
Sometimes
 
Ell
I am sort of lurking at the moment
I want to go and get some cereal. But I want to know whats wrong with having a string type that's convertible to a mutable one
 
@Ell because it is immutable, and you can assign it to a mutable one (char*), and mutating it is UB.
char *fuck = "this";
fuck[0] = 's';
fuck[3] = 't;
 
Ell
ahh right okay
 
9:03 AM
anyone there?
 
Where?
 
what do guys recommend when working with long nested boost namespaces? write them all down or use aliases?
 
Alias, but never in header files.
namespace fs = boost::filesystem;
 
9:27 AM
Hi there!
I've just seen something like: typedef char (&identifier)[1]; in a source code.
what does this mean?
 
reference to an array. also rtfm
 
Ell
ughh I can't do quicksort >.<
I understand the method and could implement it, I just can't do it by hand.
 
@Ell Piece of cake.
quicksort :: Ord a => [a] -> [a]
quicksort []     = []
quicksort (p:xs) = (quicksort lesser) ++ [p] ++ (quicksort greater)
    where
        lesser  = filter (< p) xs
        greater = filter (>= p) xs
 
Ell
9:43 AM
@daknøk We have to write out each pass by hand for my further maths class on an online homework website but to me it looks like it's expecting more pivots than there are
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf It's quick 3 second code, unless that counts.
@FredOverflow Well, I thought I haven't defragmented in a long time. It turned out that I had put it on a schedule and never noticed, even then I think I do it out of pure habit from the "old days".
 
10:08 AM
@daknøk that's one sexy piece of clean code :)
 
Hey folks, how can in install gcc 4.7.2 on my debian squeeze ? i tried "sudo apt-get install gcc=4.7.2" but it doesn't seem to be working
it says it can't find the version
 
I think you will have to do a manual install
I seem to remember having to do that on my Ubuntu machine
 
ok i'm downloading it from the site now
 
10:33 AM
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Nice machine, but, ten kilometers? Interesting. Do you have a pic of Vakt as well? I guess it'll be wide-angle to get the ears in :)
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf One mile is 1.6km, not 10km
 
Ell
hmm. someone is holding a party, 30k people are going
How do I convince my mum to let me go? :L
 
user457812
O_o
 
user457812
I totally didn't read that correctly the first time. That means I should probably sleep. Maybe.
 
Ell
10:41 AM
bit early :L
 
10:58 AM
@Ell that is ginormously unconvincing. If 30k people are goind, by definition there is no need for you to be there too
 
Ell
yeah I don't guess 30k people are actually going, it is on a facebook event
held by a guy who is renowned for big parties. Last year he held one with legit 1k people. There were police helicopters and all :P
 
11:16 AM
@Ell The other day, a good number of people were injured at a _n_k facebook party - started by a naive 15 year old who accidentally put a public invite on facebook.
25k people had responded to the invite. Apparently, people are bored enough to actually go and ruin a perfectly innocent 16th birthday.
The Hooligan type awoke: shops were looted, general vandalism, street brawls. The Stuff
What. Has. The. World. Come. To.
 
Ell
I really don't understand why people go on rampages when they are surrounded by other people
does being with other people cause them to forget morals? or do they just not have them in the first place?
 
anyone up to reviewing my CV?
 
@Ell The latter.
@Ell Boredom. The complete and utter lack of a sense of direction. No sense of purpose. I reckon it feels better than killing yourself out of depression
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah why not. I could pin it if you post a link with a clear description of the intent
 
Ell
11:21 AM
yeah. I read something on 4chan, if you are truly suicidal, don't commit suicide, just do what you want and care about nothing - either way you will die but you can enjoy your last moments
 
@sehe As I thought - West Ham fans.
 
Ell
your link reminds me, I need to learn norwegian still
 
@sehe I don't like posting links in someone's face, especially when it's not precisely code/c++ related. dl.dropbox.com/u/31542899/CV2.pdf
 
@BartekBanachewicz It is in PDF format. Recruiters are way to lazy to open that. :P
 
I am getting fired, by the way. That's the reason for all this -.- (which, as a side effect, made a new profile pic for me)
@daknøk ummm? How I am supposed to send it, then? Plain text? Pasted in email?
 
11:23 AM
why fired?
 
@BartekBanachewicz It was a joke.
 
@DeadMG Law in Poland changed and companies lose benefits they had when they employed students. So I'm getting more cut than fired. Anyway, my boss said that from the technical point I'm 100% OK
 
ah
fired usually means "I fucked the boss's wife" or something
 
@BartekBanachewicz Most agencies seem to ask for 'Word 97' format.
 
Ell
so you will get a letter of recommendation from him then?
 
11:25 AM
@MartinJames Well, I am mostly thinking of applying to the more sensible companies. Why should I want to work for someone who enforces this?
 
If an agency wants my CV as a Word document, fuck them. I write my CV in TeX.
 
@Ell I think I can count on that. Or even a phone call.
 
@Ell ..or perhaps from his wife?
 
oh damn. I think I linked the older version by mistake. Or the gray text made it in again somehow.
 
There are also some grammatical errors in your document.
I don’t know if that’s important or not.
 
11:28 AM
I think everything is important
 
…JavaScript and otherS…
…soon we had A running renderer…
…begun workING…
…as lambdas AND move semantics…
^ some of them.
 
however, I am mostly concerned about the form. My friend "helped" me with it a bit (my previous one was, I'd say, more "formal"
 
Ah okay.
Decent recruiters don’t care about the form, as long as everything they need is present.
I think it’s time for me to make a CV too.
And a website.
 
Ell
hmm begun. Began? I don't know the context
 
Well, the good point is that I already have an inside contact in a company I'm interested in
 
11:31 AM
@Ell Oh wait. Hmm. :P
@BartekBanachewicz My former boss was a good friend of my brother. :P
 
@daknøk certainly helps
 
The interview was easy. He asked me about my experiences and how much money I wanted and I was in.
But yeah, it’s easy if they already know you’re a good programmer.
 
Ell
if a body is moving in a straight line, velocity = speed doesn't it?
 
But imma make myself a website. I don’t have one yet.
@Ell speed and velocity are different.
 
@daknøk my interview was similar. They said they should give me a programming test, but it would be kinda pointless
 
11:34 AM
@BartekBanachewicz They had a test where I worked, but I’ve never done it.
After one hour my boss already saw my qualities.
 
Ell
@daknøk I know velocity has a direction & a magnitude but speed just a magnitude
 
Yes, speed is scalar, velocity is vector.
 
@Ell it's true. Speed is a scalar value
 
Ell
but if it's in a straight line then it doesn't matter does it? because displacement = distance
i stayed up eating pizza & doritos too late last night >.< and playing slender
 
@Ell If the object is moving along, say, X axis, its velocity would be [V, 0, 0], and speed V. Different types, in essence. Physics is strongly typed ;)
 
11:36 AM
@Ell Numerically, the speed would equal the magnitude of the vector in your case, but a compiler would not allow assignment - different types.
 
Ell
haha yes, that is a good way of putting it
it would be a widening conversion :L (something :L I don't know!)
 
@MartinJames the speed is always the length of the velocity vector. That's the definition
@Ell you mean up-casting?
 
Ell
I guess, yeah
But velocity isnt a speed is it?
so they wouldn't be in the same type hierearchy
 
Should I say “I also know PHP, but I rather not work with that.” or “I also know PHP, but I’d rather not work with that.”?
 
@BartekBanachewicz You're absolutely right - I should have been more precise about the parallel and perpendicular components etc. My bad, (hung over a bit - Doombar and Highland Park).
 
Ell
11:41 AM
@daknøk I read somewhere not to list technologies you know that you don't want to work with
 
@daknøk Definitely "I'd rather".
"I rather not" is so, so bad
 
Ell
It depends on how much credit you think knowing PHP is worth
 
@daknøk “I also know PHP, but I'm trying to forget it"?
 
@DeadMG Thanks. :)
@MartinJames hehe good one.
 
Ell
Ohhh you were talking about apocopation :L
 
11:42 AM
@daknøk at careers 2.0 you can just put it in "dislikes" category ;)
 
> I also know PHP, but I’m trying to forget it due to all the pain and sorrow associated with it.
@BartekBanachewicz I know, I have a Careers profile.
 
... it also broke my fridge.
@daknøk "Top 20% for c++" It's top rep / upvotes / answers?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Guess so.
 
I'm in top 30% but I don't really know how to interpret it
 
Out of everybody on Stack Overflow with that tag, I guess.
 
Ell
11:44 AM
you dislike .net? whats up with that?
 
Microsoft.
And too OO. It’s meh.
 
@daknøk you're getting close to heresy
 
Ell
I like OO personally
I like ruby, its like OO + functional (I think?)
 
I like OO only for things OO is good at.
 
btw, I <3 your profile description. "I like software development."
@Ell ruby is multi-paradigm. So it can suck as both oo and functional language. Neat.
 
11:45 AM
OO begins to suck when you do it Java style.
With factories and shit.
C++ standard library does OOP right, except for I/O streams.
 
Ell
yeah i don't get the factories
 
I'd write it "the way java coders do it" style. It's not java's fault itself
 
Ell
@daknøk what is OO good at?
 
@Ell Factories are not useful in Ruby, probably that’s why. :P
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz Ruby sucks at nothing <3
 
11:46 AM
@Ell I yet have to find that out. I think resource management a la C++, but I don’t really see that as OOP.
@Ell Ruby sucks at sucking?
 
@Ell oh come on...
 
Ell
I love c++s memory management (& all of RAII)
 
s/memory/resource/
 
Ell
since c++ I can't write in languages without value types, which is messed up
 
Use Haskell.
Python has with, which is a neat alternative to finally, which is confusing and fucked-up.
 
Ell
11:48 AM
I am doing fine until I try and make a ** equivalent for some reason
I can't think of an instance, but I know it messes my head up
 
Python > Ruby
 
Ell
Or even like, a node keeping a reference to it's parent I start thinking "Wait a second did that just copy?"
 
@daknøk everything normal > Ruby (> PHP) ?
 
I prefer Python over Ruby not really because the language, but more the ecosystem. Ruby libraries tend to do a lot of “magic” and you don’t know what is going on (an extreme example being Ruby on Rails).
 
Ell
I have never used Ruby on Rails
 
11:50 AM
@BartekBanachewicz You forgot C and Perl.
 
@Ell I have issues with some RAII stuff. I write mostly high-performance multithreaded apps. Objects moving around all over the place between threads/units. Some RAII stuff seems inappropriate, (even dangerous), somehow.
 
If I do web development in Ruby, I use Sinatra.
But I prefer Python w/ Flask or Haskell w/ Happstack.
@MartinJames Use a memory pool and a custom allocator.
 
@daknøk Dude you fix people's problems in seconds.
 
lolz :P
 
@daknøk I do use object pools:) I try hard to not new/delete anything except at startup.
 
11:53 AM
@MartinJames I can't imagine how RAII can be inappropriate.
 
Ell
I have never done web programming, it really confuses me.
and takes aaageesss to set up
 
Xeo
@MartinJames Which stuff?
If you move things around, well, std::unique_ptr seems appropriate.
 
Ell
and there seems to be a trillion ways to do things, none of which are the "ideal" wy
 
Xeo
If you need something in multiple places, well, there's std::shared_ptr for that.
 
@Ell that’s what we have templates for. :)
 
11:54 AM
there's std:: for everything! run for your pointers!
 
@Ell Me too:( To much coffee, obscure fruits, weirdly-named frameworks..
 
Xeo
And for simply passing stuff to other threads without yielding ownership, pass them by reference, if you know they don't outlive the owning thread.
 
Ell
@daknøk I know templates are there for that, but templates for me make me uncomfortable. Like when you create a web app with django or RoR, a load of directories are made and I don't know what any of them do :O
 
I mean make the template yourself, silly. With Sinatra you need like only a few files.
config.ru
Gemfile
app.rb
views/
^ all you need in your template.
 
Thnks guys, but after a recent experience, I thin it's better if I don't rile any more developers with a jihad about inter-thread comms. I might need you again:)
 
11:57 AM
@MartinJames "somehow" isn't really helpful. What specific problem do you experience?
 
@Ell Did you ever try to read a tutorial for django? If you have some know-how, everything is made for you with generic views n'stuff, i.e. the more you know, the faster you can make something usable
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz That's what irks me a little - that I have to start off with things being done for me. I'd rather spend time doing it myself first and then using django's stuff, but there are so many things that I just don't know what it does
 
@Ell That's how the tutorial is created. It shows you how to create view from scratch, then says "Look! We've made it ready for you! (but if you want to make your own, feel free)"
 
Ell
Right okay, I may try it some time then
I will eventually :)
I have tried in PHP but I just.... arghhhh it is just horrible to write in :P
 
Use Haskell for your web apps.
Happstack is horribly awesome.
 
Ell
12:01 PM
that just sounds impractical :L
 
@Ell no sh*t, sherlock.
 
use C++ like a real man
 
Writing a web app in C++ is a terrible idea.
 
@daknøk why? C++ rocks
 
Ell
What language to write a GUI in?
 
12:02 PM
C++ sucks.
@Ell HTML, CSS and JavaScript.
 
@daknøk Writing a web app in C++ is a terrible idea. :-P
 
Ell
hmmm. cross platform gui?
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's not a language.
 
Ell
for the basic stuff
I know each platform has it's own UX, but if we're talking text box', buttons etc.
 
12:03 PM
@Insilico it more or less equals to { C#, VB , F# }
@Ell the problem is, there are no good cross-platform gui libraries. Other than Java -.-
 
@BartekBanachewicz Sure. It's not a language. :-P
 
Ell
#CVFB#
@BartekBanachewicz then someone needs to write one :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz Java has a good cross-platform GUI library?
 
Ell
swing?
 
@Ell I did. :P It's OpenGL based, though
 
Ell
12:04 PM
but that looks horrific IMHO
@BartekBanachewicz what issues would the OpenGL bit cause?
can I see it?
 
@Ell Read my question again: Java has a good cross-platform GUI library?
 
Ell
I think swing is... errmmm... good.
runs away
 
The only good cross-platform GUIs are web apps.
 
@Ell It isn't perfect/complete/use at own risk github.com/bananu7/OpenGLUI
 
Hello I have function as Function(FWPM_FILTER0 ***entries);
 
12:06 PM
@daknøk It would be better if web browers were actually consistent.
 
+ if you want docs, you can doxygenerate them yourself
 
How can I call IT.. or how to specify argument
and what does "***" pointors imply.. can anyone got an idea?
 
@ErBnAcharya It means you're using shitty code.
 
@ErBnAcharya It's pointer to handle. Meh. Or pointer to pointer to pointer.
 
@ErBnAcharya In all seriousness, it's a pointer to a pointer to a pointer.
@ErBnAcharya The hell I know. I don't know what Function() or FWPM_FILTER0 is.
 
12:08 PM
Anyone here?
 
@Ell And oh, sorry for some remaining Polish comments, gotta fix them. And example is so long because it uses WinAPI. I didn't want to introduce more dependencies
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz hmm .vxproj I am linux. Is there a cmake or anything?
 
@ErBnAcharya Yes, there are people here.
 
Ell
I will try in on my windows machine another time :)
 
@Ell you can file an issue on github ;) I'll add CMake or just linux makefiles someday. It would require working linux sample, though.
 
12:09 PM
Or Can I ask in Stackoverflow? Suggest
Ok
 
@ErBnAcharya Probably. Please read this "How to Ask" guide first.
 
But I am not the one who implemented the function. Well I thought it was bill gates idea. But I have to call the function anyhow.
DWORD WINAPI FwpmFilterEnum0(
_In_ HANDLE engineHandle,
_In_ HANDLE enumHandle,
_In_ UINT32 numEntriesRequested,
_Out_ FWPM_FILTER0 ***entries,
_Out_ UINT32 *numEntriesReturned
);
Code is like this..
 
@ErBnAcharya Ah, it's a C API. That would explain it.
 
@Insilico I think i have completed the criteria to ask question.
 
@ErBnAcharya Be sure to provide a code snippet and provide context
 
12:13 PM
Well @Insilico (again) Windows have its sample using c++. So I am here.
 
@ErBnAcharya Yes. But the Windows API is a C API.
 
@Insilico it's more like WTFAPI
 
Ell
I envision an ultra OOP OS where everything is an object
 
I guess it would be more like POO OS. No offence ;)
 
Ell
so you can go os.files["~/.myapp/settings.xml"].delete
haha none taken, I can't see it being practical, just a gimmick
 
12:16 PM
Well there was a guy from Google who wanted to create LuaOS
 
Ell
for(auto p : os.processes) {
p.kill
}
 
Eww and OOP OS.
Terrible.
Ruby also sucks, by the way, because it has no modules.
 
Ell
modules in what way?
Ruby has modules
 
Ruby has no modules.
It has mixinable namespaces.
 
Ell
12:26 PM
module MyModule
end
 
Modules are what Python and Haskell have.
 
Ell
well thats why I asked "modules in what way" :L
what is a module then?
 
In Ruby you would put multiple unrelated things in the same “module”.
 
Ell
why?
 
Say you create a web framework.
You call it Banana, for example.
You would put everything in the Banana module, even across different files and stuff.
In Haskell, for example, you would have Banana.Routing, Banana.View, Banana.Database, Banana.Utility, each in its own file.
Modules are good at one thing.
Not a bunch of things.
 
Ell
12:31 PM
good at 2 things :P
not a bunch of things
 
one
 
Ell
okay so lets say ruby splits modules into modules and mixins, would that fix it?
 
No?
Ruby has no modules, it has namespaces.
 
Ell
I'm confused. Whats the difference?
 
Namespaces prevent name clashes, modules are a way to organize your code.
 
Ell
12:34 PM
so you dont use namespaces to organise code?
sounds to me like namespaces are good at 2 things.
deal with it ;)
 
No, you deal with it. You are using inferior languages. :P
 
Ell
so what do you use to organise your code?
 
Modules.
 
Ell
and what do you use to prevent name clashes?
 
Import as.
 
Ell
12:38 PM
so when you said "you would have Banana.Routing", you were lying?
 
import qualified Foo.Bar.Baz as B
import qualified Foo.Bar.Qux as Q

a = B.lol
b = Q.lol
 
"C programmers are terrible", episode III.
@CatPlusPlus Then we have a misunderstanding. What I meant to say is that assigning a string literal to a char * is perfectly fine. What is undefined is modifying the characters pointed to by such a pointer. Your comment is easily misread as saying never write a statement like char *ptr; ... ; ptr = "foo". — Jens 2 hours ago
 
Ell
why not just use Foo.Bar.Baz?
orr maybe import Foo, then Bar.Baz and Bar.Qux
 
Because that is long and unreadable as fuck.
 
That's not how this works.
 
Ell
12:40 PM
@daknøk It's not at all
 
If you use functions a lot, you really get tired of it. Trust me.
It’s like not aliasing boost::filesystem and then complaining your lines are too long.
 
Ell
just import boost
if there are name clashes then using the full qualifier will make things less confusing imho
 
In Ruby you cannot do import as, so if you are using two libraries and they happen to use the same module names and function names, you are fucked.
You could perhaps do foo = MyModule, but I don’t know if that works.
 
Ell
well everything is an object so you sure can ;)
 
No, modules are not first class in Haskell.
 
12:44 PM
@Ell It’s a hack!
 
Ell
what do you mean?
 
@CatPlusPlus He was talking about Ruby.
 
Ruby is badly designed crap, so whatever.
3
 
@Ell Aliasing modules that way is a hack, and it would still not work, by the way.
You would still get a name clash. Same function defined in the same module twice.
 
Ell
meh well whatever, i've never had a name clash anyway
for waht I use ruby for
 
12:47 PM
You would need another even uglier hack.
module A
    require 'meh'
end
module B
    require 'boo'
end
A::Qux::foo()
B::Qux::foo()
 
Ell
have you ever had a name clash?
 
No, but that doesn’t make it impossibru.
 
Ell
I know
but meh I don't care, I just enjoy writing it
 
I don’t like how Ruby solves ambiguities when you do things like this, without parentheses:
foo bar, baz lol, meh, foobar
Which functions are meh and foobar arguments too? foo or baz?
 
Ell
who would do that? :L
I also dont like how it does that
 
12:50 PM
No, why is it allowed?
 
Ell
No idea
 
aaaargh
 
sup
 
my parents have such an annoying habit of "cleaning up after me"
now I've lost important documents which they've probably "cleaned up" into some random place I'd never look
 
Ell
why is that annoying? I would be thankful :P
ohh i see.
 
12:52 PM
I just don’t make a mess and I clean up my own room.
Just tell your parents to keep their hands off of your documents.
 
I tried that
but they insist that everything has to be, as they perceive it, super clean and tidy
 
Hide their stuff and they will realize.
 
Ell
buy a lock for your room
 
My room is not messy, my room is set up in the exact way I want.
 
Ell
my room is messy
 
12:57 PM
I don’t make a mess in my room.
 
I prefer the mess
but my parents can't stand it
but I can't fucking find anything in this "tidy" shit
 
The only things I do in my room are sleeping and using the computer.
Sometimes chilling with friends, but if they make a mess, they are the ones who clean it up.
 
Ell
you dont clean up after your friends?
 
We don’t make a mess.
So there is nothing to clean up.
 
So i returned the iPad. Didn't like it. Got the asus transformer infinity instead
 
12:59 PM
Y U NO GIVE IT TO ME.
 

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