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9:00 PM
I don't actually mind washing dishes much
 
@JerryCoffin Wow. Dancing with wolves, talking with angels and chatting with the dinosaurs
 
@TonyTheLion Me neither. I was just in a hurry to get moved and forgot about that box on the top of the cupboard. Somehow
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin I was always the one who did most of the cooking. I'm not overly fond of doing dishes (it's a bitch once you hit half a dozen family members), but folding laundry is much worse...
 
9:02 PM
@sbi Oh that's death for me: folding laundry. Good thing is, the kids are picking up :) At least, for now
 
I freaking hate petty downvotes!!!
 
@LuchianGrigore You love well founded punishments, of course
And exclamation marks
 
sbi
@LuchianGrigore You're the exception. We all love being downvoted.
 
I don't mind being downvoted
 
Look at the birght side: 58,333 is a really pretty reputation
 
9:03 PM
@sbi I think most people would much rather cook than clean up afterwards. Thankfully I also have kids starting to pick up on folding laundry.
 
This guy stackoverflow.com/a/12062878/673730 went on a downvoting spree right after my comments
 
I can't quite put my finger on it, but it must be some special number (58333)
 
@sehe And I thought I was bad.
 
That was my former me
Which is, obviously, pretty similar to my current me, but has more structure :)
 
Hey everyone. I'm kinda stuck trying to compile a program with spawn.h-No such file or directory.Anyone knows where to get library to use functions like spawnl()? I am using gcc
 
sbi
9:06 PM
@LuchianGrigore I told you.
@sehe Why would the kids like to do something I hate, @Jerry?
 
@LuchianGrigore Can't have been him. He's only cast 2 votes today.
 
is it possible to determine that an expression like obj.somefunc refers to a member function? I figured is_member_function_pointer<decltype(obj.somefunc)>might do the trick, but clang doen't like it
 
@Mysticial :)) I didn't know you could see that.
 
That's not a valid expression if somefunc is a member function.
 
Well, I pissed someone off...
 
9:08 PM
@jalf Has to be &.
 
@sbi With proper management, I find that the kids enjoy doing a lot of things I don't (at least alone). Making it social (e.g., three of us working on it together) makes it much more palatable to them (and to me, truth be told).
 
@sbi They don't have to. They apparently like to help. Yeah. My mind is boggled too
 
@DeadMG where, exactly?
 
sbi
@LuchianGrigore If it's a simply to discover downvote spree, it will be reversed by tomorrow.
 
@jalf &obj.somemember
I tink
 
9:09 PM
I know
still
 
@sbi 3 downvotes isn't enough to trigger it.
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin Mhmm. I should try that.
 
@DeadMG &Type::somemember
 
It's not the score that matters, I reached the rep cap anyway
It's the principle
 
@JerryCoffin Yup. That's key I think
 
9:10 PM
basically, I'm playing around with defining a macro like #define CALL(func), where func might be the name of a free function, or it might be something like obj.func to call a member function, and I'm wondering if the same macro can be made to handle both cases
 
sbi
@sehe Oh, my kids like to help, too — until they are good enough to actually become helpful, at which point their interest in any task vanishes in an instant.
 
without requiring icky syntax from the caller
 
You're out of luck.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, I thought it'd be something like that...
 
@sbi Yeah, I'm afraid I'll be seeing the same phases
 
9:11 PM
@LuchianGrigore I can definitely sympathize with that. I almost ragequit once over a downvote that had no effect on rep at all...
 
@jalf What exactly does CALL do?
 
@LuchianGrigore That was kinda my attitude in the early days when I used to repcap.
 
sbi
@DeadMG I bet it calls. ("Hullo?!")
 
produce a function object that calls that function? cause it seems to me like, well, the caller should already know whether it's a member or non-member function.
 
@DeadMG the exact details don't matter, but it basically tries to call the function and wrap that in a few other things
 
9:12 PM
@JerryCoffin I was gonna give up on SO if this hadn't got solved - meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/130714/…
 
actually, it's more like CALL(func, (arglist)) at the moment
which will, eventually, call func(arglist)
but with a bit of wrapping code before/after the call
 
@jalf Maybe boost function traits can help.
 
@Xeo Pro tip: stop printing hard copies of compiler messages. You won't need them after you toss the code
 
Xeo
Heh
 
@StackedCrooked Can't because obj.somefunction is not a valid expression.
 
9:13 PM
and it would be so nice of the same macro could handle something like CALL(obj.func, (arglist)) as well
 
nah
 
but I don't think it's viable
 
you can't, for example, decltype(obj.func) or something like that.
 
@jalf You can do CALL(obj, func, (arglist)).
 
if you had obj and func separately, you could do decltype(&decltype(obj)::func)
 
9:14 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah, that's a decent alternative. Just would be nice if the same macro could handle both free and member functions
 
Xeo
@jalf Trying to define INVOKE from the standard? :)
 
@jalf Only if you were to bind them first.
 
but not a big deal, I'm just messing around :)
 
Xeo
Do it with overloads n stuff, or does it have to be a macro?
 
@jalf You're not, by any chance, reinventing boost::phoenix::function<>, are you? In 1.51.0 it got support for variadic function definitions (C++03 compatible)
 
9:15 PM
@Xeo I never understood why there's no std::invoke instead of that crap specification.
 
my testicles require scratching
 
@LuchianGrigore Yeah, I can't really blame you. Fortunately, mods/meta sometimes do the right things.
 
@Xeo given that I don't want to assume variadic templates (since I want the code to work on MSVC), and the function might take any number of arguments, I don't see a viable way to do it without macros
 
@DeadMG TMI.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes :/
 
9:15 PM
@DeadMG Vigorous scratching
 
Ell
IBS
 
Xeo
@jalf more overloads
 
@jalf Bind.
 
@Xeo yeah, no thanks... ;)
 
Xeo
9:16 PM
@DeadMG Remember you're a puppy, you don't scratch.
 
@JerryCoffin the question was closed as duplicate & downvoted initially, which added to the frustration. But the end result was "faith in SO restored"
 
Ell
you lick
 
So I guess it all played out ok
 
Xeo
@jalf Then look up the INVOKE definition from MSVC :)
 
@Xeo Puppies do, in fact, scratch. But not their balls :P
 
9:16 PM
@Xeo Ahem.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hey, we got the NSFW tag on, it's fine!
 
@sehe not really. Playing around with ways to wrap library/api functions like win32 or d3d
 
talk about a storm
or something...
 
@jalf oh ahaha "that look like". Ahem. Clear
 
@sehe wut?
 
9:17 PM
@jalf You mean, apart from wrapping by hand?
 
@TonyTheLion Tell me it wouldn't be cool to be there.
 
which would be the much better option, by the way
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'd shit myself :P
 
no CALL macro can hide their ugly interfaces
 
@TonyTheLion lol, wuss.
 
9:18 PM
lol
 
@DeadMG Yeah, apart from that. I'm goofing around here, it's not supposed to be productive or practical
 
Well, gotta go pick up kiddos from school. Later all.
 
@jalf Pretty restricting examples you give. Makes it clear that you are focusing on these APIs
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes I love storms
 
@JerryCoffin Have fun.
 
Xeo
9:18 PM
Especially thunderstorms
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes also, if I then had to suddenly run, for whatever reason, I could never do it
 
Why would you need to run in the middle of a storm?
Oh, wait.
 
so I'd have to die in a storm, I think there's better ways to die (Is that even something to say??)
 
@jalf There's nothing necessarily unproductive or impractical about the intended result. It's merely the impossibility of the implementation.
 
@TonyTheLion Like what?
 
9:19 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes well, you figure that out :P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes To outrun the lightning bolts, of course
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't know, euh...
 
Dying asleep is no fun.
 
Xeo
 
well, it's peaceful
 
9:20 PM
@Xeo repost
 
(Disclaimer: I'm not talking from experience.)
 
anyway, i don't intend to hide their ugly interfaces. Just create some hooks for error checking
 
dying in the line of duty
 
Xeo
wut?
 
im trying to do this `
string x="cat";
string* n=&x;
int f=*n.size() //this gives an error
can anyone tell me why
 
9:20 PM
anyway, let's talk about something else
too grim a subject, death
 
The best way to go is being ran over by a runaway semi-driven by The Incredible Hulk
</thread>
 
Ell
best way to go is nitrous oxide poisoning, well asphyxiation. or is it just nitrogen
 
@MohamedAhmedNabil Google "C++ operator precedence"
 
@jalf You mean, like Andrei's safe_pintf but generically wrapping any function
 
9:21 PM
nothin wrong with carbon monoxide poisoning either
 
"pint-f" heh?
 
@sehe what does this have to do with anything
 
@Ell That's no fun either.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes actually that was a volcanic eruption and it's attendant lightning
lol
 
Jumping off a cliff sounds much better.
 
9:22 PM
@MohamedAhmedNabil figure it out? And Hi
@MohamedAhmedNabil just to check, what where you responding to?
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes and being impaled on rocks? :O
 
@sehe I think he was responding to me, and your comment popped up
 
@LuchianGrigore lol, is there a word missing in that sentence?
or am I silly again?
 
@Ell impaled by beach birds?
 
@Prætorian oh i got it thanks
 
9:23 PM
@Prætorian Possible. That explains /cc @MohamedAhmedNabil
 
being hanged sounds terrible
 
@TonyTheLion no missing words, but there's an extra '-' in there
 
Ell
@sehe I don't think you can be impaled by birds
@TonyTheLion yeaht it does :S
 
being hung sounds nice
 
9:24 PM
StackOverflow has made me type ` where I want to type '
 
@TonyTheLion Supposedly, if done the right way, your neck snaps and you don't feel anything
 
But that's no fun either.
 
@Ell Well, neither can you be impaled 'on' rocks (unless there is something else impaling you there)
@LuchianGrigore Happened to me at times. Not these days though. To little SO activity
 
@Prætorian that's what I've read too, but still creepy
 
@sehe I'll lay back once I break 100k
 
Ell
9:26 PM
@sehe are you sure?
 
If you jump off a high enough cliff you get to experience the wind of those seconds of free fall.
 
Wow. You have some discipline. Or you need a life :)
Because I like betting, I don't think you will make it there (at least not by trying hard)
 
Ell
hmm you're right
@R.MartinhoFernandes but you wouldn't die instantly :S
Suffocating in between a big pair of hooters
 
@LuchianGrigore Reason: often we see you here, you're here to complain about people treating you badly on SO
 
9:27 PM
bullets are a fast way to die
when you insert them in the right place
lol
 
@Ell Suffocating is not instantaneous, pleasant, nor fun.
 
@TonyTheLion A fast way to injure your foot
 
@sehe oh come on, I don't always complain
 
@TonyTheLion But zero fun.
 
@LuchianGrigore Reread what I said
 
9:28 PM
@sehe my foot doesn't need injuring, hurts enough just as it is
 
@TonyTheLion True that. I forgot. Sorry
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh I see, so dying has to be fun too, well, I don't know what method of dying I'd consider "fun"
 
Still don't get it
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Apparently, kids these days don't know about that
 
@TonyTheLion Jumping off a plane with a defective parachute.
 
9:29 PM
@LuchianGrigore often != always :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes hahah
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Why would it matter that the plane has a defective parachute
 
That was like my second rant
 
Xeo
Yay, thunderstorm again
 
Yes, I did use "like"
 
Xeo
9:29 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Definitly
 
How about that guy who had a heart attack while getting a lap dance, that's gotta be one of the better ways to go
 
@LuchianGrigore Time for a reality check.
 
Xeo
Wanna experience the "fall" feeling
 
@sehe Because you would use it without knowing, and it would be a surprise. That makes it more fun, no?
 
@Prætorian yeah, that was on the news 2months ago or so
 
9:30 PM
Wth does extern do to a member?
 
"OMG, the parachute won't open! This is so cool!"
 
I didn't even know you could use it in a class definition.
 
@LuchianGrigore I don't think you can
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I was interpreting as [jumping] [from] [a plane with no parachute]
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you do have some interesting ways of thinking about certain subjects
 
Ell
9:31 PM
what is the worst way to die?
 
@Prætorian true, scrape that.
@Ell trying to reproduce a heisenbug
 
oh god
 
@Ell Petrified by elementary physics.
 
Ell
ebola :O
 
the worst way to die is for science :P
 
Ell
9:37 PM
because you always die alone :O
 
Ell
there we go thats the worst way to die
alone and when nobody cares :O
 
yea :(
 
Woah, I've used 3.3GB bandwith today
 
Congrats
 
9:43 PM
well, I did download a 2.2GB file
lol
 
Ell
haha
 
I had fun hacking on Clang last night
 
USE ALL THE BANDWIDTH
 
it's full of two-stage initialization and owning raw pointers
lovely stuff...
 
9:44 PM
My record is around 30GB in a day I think
Probably more
 
went on a game downloading spree
 
Ell
my speeds aren't fast enough to do 30gb in a day :O
 
@DeadMG when does a raw pointer become an owning raw pointer? I'm always confused about this.
 
Ell
@TonyTheLion when you want it to be?
 
9:44 PM
@Ell You'd rather die when someone cares? That's selfish.
 
@TonyTheLion When you're supposed to call a cleanup function on it.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes yup :D
 
@DeadMG ah like when it's a FILE* handle or something like that
 
Selfish bastard.
 
Ell
I'm only human
 
9:45 PM
yep
and oh my god, the endless Managers :(
 
@Ell You said that as if being human was a virtue.
 
Ell
being human is overrated, I think I'd rather be like a shrimp or something
Something that doesn't care. And looks cool
 
I'd rather be a puppy, unsurpisingly
cute, cuddly, get to live for free forever
 
And forever means 10 years.
 
oops
 
9:54 PM
@DeadMG The structure of a program reflects the structure of the organization that developed it. So, given how much you love CLang, I'm guessing you're ripe for a job at Apple (if you'll pardon the pun).
@R.MartinhoFernandes "Forever" really means "too shortsighted to see further than the end."
 
@JerryCoffin Time for some punishment
 
Xeo
yay, now the rain's pouring
 
Ouch. Across the street has been without electricity from 22:30h to 23:42h
 
Ell
Woo! I got famous question!
 
@DeadMG I once signed up for a mailing list that sent out ten puns a day. They were supposed to tickle my punny bone, but no pun intended.
 
9:57 PM
@Ell I totally read that as "my seeds aren't fast enough" - made it really funny to read
 
@JerryCoffin lol
 
@Ell which one?
 
Ell
@LuchianGrigore ...it's on super user :P superuser.com/questions/308771/…
 
@Ell Carn't find it
@Ell Ah
 
Ell
hehe yeah :P
 
9:59 PM
Those don't count :P
 
Xeo
holy crap, feels like the skip opened up and just let all the water out
 
@lovesh My guess is that you didn't even bother to read the Code of Conduct.
 

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