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19:10
Is it weird that after 10months of C++ study, reading and practicing constantly i still feel like i miss basic things?
How long did it take you to get past that?
That never happens
sweet an eternity of confidence blows...
any advice for building confidence?
and instinct when it comes to c++?
@jozefg think of it as constantly being able to improve :D
19:12
Other than practice? Don't know.
Build something that requires things you know you don't fully understand yet.
That's how I made the big leap.
Hmm if I may ask what did you build?
Just looking for inspiration
I implemented a library based off of Andrei Alexandrescu's range concepts.
It's a complete mess, but I got the hang of templates out of it.
I built a FTP server.
C++ is nicely tailored for network apps.
@kbok that sounds interesting, is that code up on github or something?
Cool thanks!
Id like to learn a lot more about networking, maybe something like that could be fun...
@jozefg several years
@jozefg networking by itself is a bit generic, it's a whole industry on its own :P
@KillianDS Of course haha but that doesn't mean I can't get my feet wet and learn a bit more about FTP protocols or whatever for a project
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Q: Why is 'declval' specified in terms of 'add_rvalue_reference<T>::type' and not 'T&&'?

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19:24
@Xeo upvoted, you rep whore
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hi!
does anyone here use sublime text?
@zyngawow Yes
Could you please help me with sublimeclang?I installed it, but i dont know how to include clang(new to c++`)
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> @klut It means something is seriously, seriously f*cked up.
^^ flagged...
WTF
19:30
@zyngawow Oh yeah, tried it, turns out it sucks. I never bothered :)
so how do I compile?
Using a compiler.
sublimeclang only checks for syntax. You need a working install beforehand also.
wouldnt it be better if it was integrated?
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19:31
@R.MartinhoFernandes C#
TIL: Parsec is awesome.
Yeah, but clang kinda doesn't work on windows AFAIK.
I thought you meant you had flagged it.
@RadekSlupik You should have learned that months ago!
@R.MartinhoFernandes Why?
19:32
@R.MartinhoFernandes How's that blog post going? :)
Feb 20 at 18:23, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Too busy basking in Parsec's awesomeness.
lol :P
I’m now writing a parser for my shell.
Oh shit, my neighbour's singing
19:32
I am trying to install OSX but..
failing
lol
Buy a Mac if you want OS X.
Do you know how Spain's economy is?
Do you have an Intel processor?
@zyngawow I might be killed for saying that, but you're better off installing VC express and using msbuild to compile.
AMD doesn’t work.
19:33
@zyngawow Fucked up?
Yes, Intel
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah, pretty much
Is it 64-bit?
Yes
i3 530
You need a 64-bit Intel processor. AMD64 does not work.
Ah.
Should work then, though you still need a hacked version.
19:34
But afaik I need at least one mac
The official version only runs on Macs. For other computers, try iAtkos.
It’s a popular hack of OS X. I have used it and it worked quite well, even in VirtualBox.
I think you can also install normal OSX into a non-mac
but first you need to use VMware to burn the disc
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A: What's the proper way to show money in an UI in Java?

user1514134looks like your homework bitch !!!!

@ManofOneWay Man, I've been really busy lately :(
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@R.MartinhoFernandes flagged, flagged again, voted to delete
I haven't made much progress in ogonek either.
19:39
How come some uppercase letters look like a big version of their lowercase equivalents (like xX yY zZ) but others do not (like aA bB dD)?
Because ancient people were high / didn't care because they were going to die soon anyway.
Because humanity is an epic fail. Hence robots.
@R.MartinhoFernandes That was bold.
@R.MartinhoFernandes 90% of humanity, bitch.
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lol
19:40
Repost!
I think there's a flow chart for reposts somewhere
@FredOverflow I suspect you'll find that the non-big-version ones are directly from Latin.
Does It Move? Yes: Move it! No: Copy it!
@DeadMG Aha! This was driving me nuts today.
@Xeo LOL awesome
hmmm
19:42
Hey everybody. What's up?
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A: Is it possible to have git automate resolution of a certain kinds of merge conflicts

user1514134is this your homework if yes please post it under homework tag

@Flexo He's back? Time for some serious flagging.
@kbok I'm having soup with onions, potatoes, carrots and string beans.
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@kbok don't make me hungry...
@Chimera What's up? My ceiling. Beyond that, the sky.
19:44
@FredOverflow What's string beans ?
@Flexo Moderator is on the hunt
Why freetype? Why would you pound define your includes?
#define LOL_HEADER <lol.h>
#include LOL_HEADER
@FredOverflow Well, that doesn't look as delicious :)
@Tocs Please tell me this is not happening
19:45
@FredOverflow Hehe.... Same here I guess.
Let's call them std::string beans.
@Drise It's in freetype!
@kbok That's not a picture of the soup :)
@Tocs Freetype?
@Drise a font rendering library, it sucks but it seems to be used often
19:46
@FredOverflow Sure. Also the soup is probably more healthy
@Tocs Wow.
@Drise damn thing wont link
@Drise hey man how's it going?
@kbok What you got, chicken breast? I've heard good things about chicken breast health-wise.
@Chimera Meh. I have 2 finals today, and tomorrow is my birthday. Note also: My fiance left for Germany for a year on the 26th. Life sucks somewhat.
19:48
@FredOverflow The big orange stuff are actually apples
@FredOverflow Low fat?
@Drise Not sure, but BB sites almost always list them under their top 10 of healthy protein sources.
@Drise Being without your financee might be tough... Good luck on the finals, and happy birthday!
@FredOverflow Breasts are usually good.
@FredOverflow Probably low fat.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Indeed.
@kbok What's so unhealthy about apples? :)
@EtiennedeMartel lol
@FredOverflow Sugars.
@Drise Come on, we need 50g of sugar every day. Better to get it from an apple than from chocolate or something.
19:50
The hell is this?
@FredOverflow Chocolate is respectably healthy.
Stuffed chicken thighs.
Now this is healthy.
Note also: Bacon.
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@FredOverflow Hmm, I don't know. I just figured that would be unhealthy since it's very sweet.
@kbok Nope.
19:51
@Drise BACON!!!!!
@Drise It is? I think it depends on the brand.
the sugars you find in stuff like apples is actually quite a bit healthier than you find in chocolate.
Which one of A and B would you prefer? ideone.com/vnaFP
@Drise You need ~2000 calories a day, right? That's enough for more than a month. It's awesome!
@kbok Natural sugar != unhealthy.
19:52
Oh, cool
@kbok Are you actually eating this right now, or were you just posting a random picture from the Internet?
Jeff just reminded me of furnitureporn.com
@R.MartinhoFernandes No, you need 2000000 calories a day, usually abbreviated as 2000 kcal
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@DeadMG Regardless, A BigMac vs Chocolate? Chocolate.
@ManofOneWay Speaking in the voice of DeadMG, "Neither, they both suck! Actually EVERYTING SUCKS!". :-)
19:53
@FredOverflow I just finished eating it.
@FredOverflow Calories != calories.
@FredOverflow No, you need 2000 calories of food energy, usually abbreviated as 2000 kcal.
@Drise Actually, probably a BigMac.
My girlfriend took a picture of it yesterday, and I've just eaten the leftovers.
at least it has some protein in it.
19:53
@Drise Really? We don't have this distinction in Germany, because we start all nouns with an uppercase letter.
Don't look at me, I didn't make this mess up. Nutritionists did.
@FredOverflow It's not uppercased.
@FredOverflow 500 Calories = 500 kcal. Something like that.
@kbok ...of the food, I hope? :)
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@DeadMG Yea, if you only ate the lettuce.
There is a "Cal" symbol, but it's still called "calorie", unless at the start of a sentence.
19:55
@Drise No, really. Chocolate is the worst part of a BigMac, shipped in a solid bar.
@Drise I looked that up, that's completely rediculous
@MooingDuck I might have been spewing shit. But I swear there was a distinction.
a bigmac is at least only partially sugar and fat.
@DeadMG Wait, Big Macs have chocolate?
@Drise There is.
But not in the casing of the name.
@DeadMG Dafuq you talking about.
19:56
@R.MartinhoFernandes Not really. I'm talking about nutritionally.
@Drise I looked it up, you were right
a bigmac is a ton of sugar and fat, and some protein and some lettuce and stuff.
chocolate is just pure sugar and fat.
so it's difficult to argue that chocolate could be healthier than a big mac
@DeadMG Oh, sorry, I was confused.
in fact, pretty much the only way to get something less healthy than chocolate would be to physically pour fructose syrup down your throat
everything in a big mac is useful, it's only a problem if you don't use enough of it
Michael Phelps could probably eat a dozen of them a day and his problem would quickly become vitamin deficiency
@DeadMG Sounds good.
@TomW He does a metric shitload of exercise, though.
> Chocolate is made from plants, which means it contains many of the health benefits of dark vegetables.
whereas I spend virtually all my time on my ass
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19:59
You know what else is made from plants? Bacon. Think about it. Pigs eat.
> Chocolate is a complex food with over 300 compounds and chemicals in each bite. To really enjoy and appreciate chocolate, take the time to taste it. Professional chocolate tasters have developed a system for tasting chocolate that include assessing the appearance, smell, feel and taste of each piece.
I want to be a professional chocolate taster!
@R.MartinhoFernandes processing to get to chocolate is a litttle different from the processing that happens in a pig's stomach.
@FredOverflow Do they spit it out after tasting?
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
@SamDeHaan Are you saying bacon is not healthy?
Blasphemer.
You're clearly suffering from bacon deficit.
20:00
@FredOverflow Feel?
@Drise Maybe they rub the chocolate in their underpants?
@R.MartinhoFernandes I would never claim that, preposterous. I'm just stating that bacon and chocolate are not quite the same.
> Bacon deficit syndrome is a medical condition that causes various symptoms on the subjects including, but not restricted to, dislike of bacon. - from Wikipedia, I swear
@DomagojPandža I hate that. I wish we would go to SI.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Bullshit.
20:05
Kictchen stations, kitchen stations. This is the captain. Prepare for enbaconment.
Scholarly articles for Bacon deficit syndrome <-- Wtf google?
@ManofOneWay Second, but with line 5 in place of line 16.
Or std::vector.
Pretty sure we've all been there.
Few things are more satisfying than a good latte.
Bacon deficit syndrome - LOL
20:12
Man are those disconnects annoying
Wireless networking sucks.
yep
it does suck
@FredOverflow Yeah of the food of course :)
Who writes robots in Windows?
There's ATMs running on windows.
@kbok Do they dispense free money?
20:17
@Drise No.
@Drise Does Windows sound anything free-related to you ? :)
@kbok Good point. Do they charge you the amount of money you are withdrawing to use it?
@EtiennedeMartel latte is German for stiffy
@Drise Dude, they just operate like regular ATMs.
@DeadMG Yeah, until they get a BSOD
20:19
Killing the joke: lvl 9000
@FredOverflow Damn.
damn
only need to decide 600 more bits
I did spot an ATM displaying its task bar once
@DeadMG ideas how?
good evening everyone :)
20:32
@TomW That's such a security issue.
I remember from when I worked at USSRC that I could + and go browse on IE using the registers.
@ITNinja Herro
ATMs suck. They always remind me I’m broke. :(
@RadekSlupik They always remind me to take my card....I guess they dont suck in that way.
@JensGustedt - I lost all respect for that individual after his remarks on C++ — Flexo 13 secs ago
hey guys, do you know if i can set the -Wall option to default under GCC?
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@nEAnnam alias gcc='gcc -Wall'
20:41
@nEAnnam you can set an alias or export CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS in your profile, or use a wrapper script
exec /usr/bin/gcc -Wall $@
seeing it will be hard to install osx to my computer, what linux distro do you recommend for programming?
@zyngawow I like Debian but I'm biased
@Xeo, @Flexo, thank you guys
why is is so fucking difficult to get Java runtime on Ubuntu?!?
really I didn't have a problem with it when I had to do it
I don't remember how I did it, but It didn't give me trouble.
20:46
@Drise is it?
the answer almost certainly is "oracle/sun license terms"
@Flexo There's no simple deb package. Only RPM or tar.gz
I don't have time to dick around with the stupid thing.
sure there is
sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
or something like that
openjdk works great
seems they ditched sun/oracle java because of the license
@RadekSlupik can you hop into the python room for a second? I have a question for ya :)
20:51
sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre
I just want to run siebn.de/anisort/english
what do I include for the ASSERT macro?
@yurikilochek that's the assert macro, I need the ASSERT macro. It's a windows thing.
oh, sorry 'bout that
20:55
Hi guys..
@MooingDuck wtl/atl
also VAX ftw, just type ASSERT and ctrl-click it
@unNaturhal ello' :)
@Abyx <atlbase.h> doesn't have it

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