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12:00 AM
Oooh.
GoT.
 
My god. Jerry Jackson in HD.
 
What the hell is that.
Onoes, I have a database exam tomorrow.
 
It's a cartoon from David Firth, the guy wo made Salad Fingers.
 
I think it's about racism.
 
12:06 AM
You played the piano at 2AM two days ago.
 
@DeadMG sleep well
Sleep tight
 
He'll be back.
 
@sehe THAT WILLPOWER!
 
Amazing
@ScottW Dank
 
Ell
Since my phone Mic is Terrible and its late, goodnight all!
 
holy shit Windows, terrible scheduler much?
 
So, I DLd the 2012 RC client, the dark theme is so sexy,
And the mumble chat has been killed :(
 
@sehe I guess it's time to shell out the cash.
 
Time to donate to Clang so they hurry up with damn Windows support.
MSVC can then go and die and nobody will care.
Qt Creator? Eclipse?
IDEs suck in general.
VS2010 has similar memory requirements to Eclipse.
vim ftw.
Well, I don't care.
vim does that.
 
12:26 AM
goddamnit
I'm only getting like, 3-4 bits of information per bit I introduce
want to buy: that bit that was like, 91 bits of information
 
Ell
12:41 AM
Meh can't sleep
 
ah crap
building 125,000 hash tables which each might contain another 125,000 entries? not a smart move
 
1:31 AM
what happened to mumble :)
 
what happened to you going to bed
 
i was installing linux on our media center, now I remembered I had to make it boot without the external SSD, so the wife can watch tele when I'm not there
 
lol
 
now the necessary stuff is transferring to an internal hdd
Srsly, mumble seems empty
 
it is, as I just logged in and there was only me there
so I logged back out again
 
1:34 AM
amazing
 
I'm anally probing SHA-2 anyway
 
I hope you guys are not just sitting in just to humour me :)
 
so far I've had to introduce a whole 800 bits of information
and I've only solved about 20% of the states
 
K, time for final reboot check, I won't return unless something broke
 
the search could be made more efficient, but it would require a huge processing time
probably exponential subset-sum-style
 
1:36 AM
:) trade offs. boiling oceans and stuff
sleep well
 
nn
oh holy shit
I found this one bit and suddenly got the last 90,000 other bits.
/whoops
 
user457812
Note to self: stab eyes out.
 
why?
 
user457812
Working with pthreads.
 
owch
use TBB?
 
user457812
1:44 AM
Not really fond of touching anything that uses the GPL
 
LGPL, actually, with some fairly kind terms
assuming you can't pay for it
 
user457812
Definitely not willing to pay for it. I'm a cheap bastard like that.
 
the LGPL terms are actually quite permissible, you should check them out before deciding
TBB is way better than pthreads and such
 
user457812
Also, if it's Intel, I'm actually not sure if it'll work on non-Intel stuff..
 
user457812
Oh well, more things to read up on
 
1:48 AM
eh, it's a user-mode library, they have to use the OS API like everyone else
 
What are the main causes of a symbol lookup error in C++ ?
 
misspelled identifier, not declaring something you thought was
 
user457812
I'm assuming you mean an undefined symbol at link time?
 
not linking a library you thought was, or those libraries don't provide a symbol you expect
 
I am trying to use libmpg123
with node.js
it gets compiled with node-waf
but when i try to run the code it throws
node: symbol lookup error: /home/Abhii/workspace/hello/src/build/Release/hello.node: undefined symbol: mpg123_init
 
1:53 AM
that does not look like a C++ symbol lookup error
 
user457812
That's something you probably want to direct to people using node for thingies.
 
all C++ accesses to undefined symbols are compile-time errors
 
user457812
Sounds more like they're trying to load a shared library and not finding what they want.
 
I tried to compile it with ecllipse directly
now it throws [in eclipse cdt console]:: undefined reference to mpg123_init
how the heck did this compiled (o_O) with waf
 
user457812
Eclipse? Excuse me while I get the torch and pitchfork.
 
1:59 AM
@CatPlusPlus loves pitchforks.
 
lol
 
I probably should not have made my victory output "Fuckles".
 
user457812
I reserve the fucks for failure.
 
also
I should try reversing a hash where I already know that it has an output.
I might also need some other additional logic in there to deal with the whole "length" thing
 
2:17 AM
hello
 
hello
 
2:34 AM
Hmm, if I fetch GCC 4.7, that should come with an almost C++11 compliant standard lib, right?
 
@StackedCrooked I summon thee
hello all also
I'm looking for an anime similar to but better than Tenjho Tenge. any suggestions?
 
Dude, he's Belgian, it's like 4 am there.
 
since when do coders keep normal hours?
 
Since they're Belgian.
 
@EtiennedeMartel why u no use clang?
 
2:38 AM
Snow Leopard means I can't get a decent stdlib.
 
wait, why not?
it's the C freakin' library, how can that not be present?
anyhow XCode = Clang, is there a specific reason you want GCC?
anyhow, this should be informative. solarianprogrammer.com/2012/02/20/…
 
@stdOrgnlDave C++11.
 
so yes, why not Clang/XCode?
 
And that's about Lion, where you can get Xcode 4.3 and Clang 3.1 and happily do C++11.
On Snow Leopard, you're stuck with Xcode 4.0 and GCC 4.2.
I want to fucking do C++11.
 
you can't upgrade your compiler because of your operating system?
holy shit, and I thought Microsoft's BS with dropping various supports in VS11 wasbad
 
2:46 AM
No. I can't upgrade my IDE.
 
that's equally stupid
 
And Xcode hardcodes support for some compilers.
So, you want a more recent version of GCC? Tough luck, kid, better upgrade Xcode. But, oh wait, you can't, you have to upgrade your OS.
I think I'm just going to port install GCC 4.7 and ditch Xcode.
 
wait, can't you just change your path to your newer GCC? or even just replace its binary if you really need to?
 
I've heard there was a sizeable amount of bullshit that Xcode does that makes it not as straightforward.
Like the GCC that Xcode uses is not vanilla GCC.
Anyway, Xcode makes me want to puke fire ants.
 
user457812
If only you could
 
2:50 AM
are you stuck with a mac? you could virtualize windows, or use an alternate environment like Eclipse...
 
user457812
I'm not sure why you don't just upgrade to Lion unless you're running hardware that's like 5 years old or something
 
I want to port Springbok to OS X. So that would make the whole fucking thing moot.
@nil Good question. Maybe I just don't want to.
 
user457812
Is that the snarky way of saying "I have no actual reason?"
 
I can't understand why you don't try the 10.7 directions on 10.6, I don't think Apple made any earth-shattering changes that break the GCC build process
 
@nil Yes.
 
user457812
2:53 AM
@stdOrgnlDave You get the latest tools via the Mac App Store (typically), which will enforce version requirements.
 
@nil what does that have to do with downloading and building GCC's support libraries and then GCC itself, from source
 
user457812
@stdOrgnlDave I thought you meant following the Xcode directions, sorry.
 
user457812
If you're building the compiler itself, it shouldn't stop you, I think.
 
honestly I'd just virtualize windows and use VC11, or virtualize Ubuntu and use latest Clang or GCC
it's not like it's hard
 
That's what I'm doing.
 
3:03 AM
you could even share directories with OS X and target it during the build. debugging would be problematic though.
 
 
1 hour later…
4:08 AM
dayuuum that XKCD guy is insane
it's 5am, and Monday comic is up
 
i need help in c++
 
@DeadMG no, it's 12:10
 
hi
 
"-5 * 12/9" how can i extract this string into integers and operators? i just need hints
 
4:13 AM
you need two components, a lexer and a parser
 
@newbieLinuxCpp google "parser"
 
actually, you might just need a lexer
 
actually, if all numbers are digits, it's already lexed
ah.. there is "12". nvm
 
@Abyx Uh, no. You need tokenized output.. and that's not tokenized.
 
@DeadMG look, '-', '5', '*', ... - it's tokenized
 
4:18 AM
@Abyx Uh, no. For one, there's a bunch of whitespace. For two, in a tokenized form 5 and 9 are the same, but they're not here.
there's also a bunch of other normal stuff to put in a token like source file/line/etc
 
yep, you're right
 
lexer?! I thought I need to use stringstream and getline
 
they are slow. switch ftw
 
@newbieLinuxCpp You can implement a lexer that way, maybe.
but in reality, you pretty much need to have a lexer
stringstream and getline are only good for getting input into the lexer, and maybe converting some of the output into a more useful form after parsing.
 
@DeadMG A cronjob or something probably updates them.
 
4:26 AM
@DeadMG okay thank u, i'll try
 
nobody helps much in the nodejs irc :-(
 
4:42 AM
heloo
can someone help me with a career advice in c++
 
How do i convert a v8String resource to char * .. btw why the heck people dont give char* resources in huge classes >_< which are actually just string handlers
 
5:11 AM
 
?
 
5:25 AM
aaaargh walk to shop, it's bank holiday
@Abhishek Because char* is disgustingly slow and unsafe, like many terrible C "idioms" which hurt a lot more than they help.
 
now makes sense
then why do half libraries use char* and half doesnt
and each comes out with their own varient
 
because half are full of shit
 
like i have v8::String , std::string and mpg123_string
 
and because they need varying amounts of Unicode support and/or varying amounts of backwards compatibility
 
Intresting
re-learning C++ after js is going to be hard now :-(
 
5:27 AM
well, it won't help you to be messing around with such things
best to stick to the clean world of the Standard until you're quite confident
 
char * album = v2->album->p;
throws segmentation fault.
when p is of type char*
 
are you pointing to one single character with no responsibility to free it?
 
@EtiennedeMartel I use GCC 4.8 with QtCreator. No need for Xcode.
 
5:52 AM
@DeadMG nope
 
@Abhishek Then char* is epic fail.
 
lol
so how should i handle this
cause pretty much whatever i tried has thrown a segmentation fault
for instance
 
the hell should I know?
try learning the language before using it
 
tips :P
i am just a bit too rusted :-( used to know C++ a while back
2 years. untouched :-|
 
I'd suggest brushing up
although if you think that char* is for anything except single-character non-owning, I'd suggest you probably never knew C++
 
5:54 AM
probably i am going to do the same
 
6:21 AM
@DeadMG you're in luck :)
 
@sehe What, that it's shut for another three hours?
 
bank holiday? that means Christmas, Eastern and the like for us
Perhaps Queen's Birthday. And they last >3hrs
 
fucking Jubilee
all the BBC can drone on about
when I'm Prime Minister, there'll be large budget cuts in that department
 
SO still down?
 
@bamboon it was?
 
6:27 AM
@Abyx yes, it's still for me
aarg, I hate cache
 
:)
good mawning
 
6:52 AM
:3970029 Stones are hard, but they sleep longer and their days are rather dull
 
Dammit :) I thought I deleted that.
 
You did :)
I took care too not repeat any incrimating evidence. Good to see you're still holding up
@DeadMG That JohnSmith guy still trolling on?
 
@sehe I've not seen him say anything except "hello".
 
@DeadMG That's my point
 
your point is that coming here and saying "hello" is trolling?
 
6:57 AM
Somehow he is fatally drawn to this room, which he can not stand and can't find a positive thing to contribute to. To me, that must mean he's just here looking for a troll.
By the way, it reminds me very much of another chat non-user that did the same for weeks. I might check out the name on that one. It's gonna be hard to find, though
 
Is this true?
> Note: what you get when you turn -1 into an unsigned 8-bit integer [uint8_t] is implementation defined. Yes, on virtually every compiler you run into, it will be 255. But as far as the standard is concerned, it could be anything.
 
@DeadMG funny, might be remembering the same guy. This is eery:
Apr 30 at 2:58, by John Smith
hi
Apr 30 at 2:58, by John Smith
anyone know anything about subset problems
@Pubby Yes, IIRC; so are signed bitfields
 
Hm, ok
 
@ScottW I'm busy fucking freezing to death
in fact, I'm plain going to go to bed
goodnight, suckas
@ScottW It's 8am. But then, I didn't wake up yesterday until 3pm...
 
@DeadMG Sleep tight
 
7:03 AM
Hi Guys Sorry to disturb ..but what i wamted to know is where is the log out option for stackoverflow ?
 
Right where you log in. Hover your name, get popup, click logout
(profit)
 
@sehe Thanks Buddy
 
@EtiennedeMartel I loved his Mario parody.
 
So I was reading some spacedicks and I saw this nifty severed genitalia
 
7:17 AM
@Pubby Wut?
 
Oh wait, I forgot I'm not supposed to mention spacedicks
:(
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik In the same sense in which smart blonds are not blonds? ;)
 
We could use std::make_brunette<>(p) or std::die_ptr
 
Don't stop there, we need make_unique_brunette and make_shared_brunette
 
Lol
Nah you can have her. I'll simply new up my own brunette
 
7:21 AM
Be careful, you don't want her to leak!
 
Hmmm
 
> 'Mr. Trololo' Dies in St.Petersburg, Aged 77
:'(
 
@DeadMG You're right. I guess we can safely ignore this guy. Saying 'hi' for months now: chat.stackoverflow.com/…
@Pubby Link, or it didn't happen
 
@Pubby How suiting to the subject :) Mine is longer (again)
 
7:40 AM
@cicada
 
jaffa is back
 
I'm good boy
 
yellow
 
8:23 AM
red
 
Richard Dawson died too
 
Xeo
9:03 AM
Wow, so many Cat messages starred
 
sbi
I just had the best job interview I've ever had.
 
Sounds nice.
 
sbi
Now I just need to wait if the contract has everything add we agreed on.
 
@ScottW yay
@Xeo C*h*at messages - FTFY
 
sbi
@Xeo, you still want that job?
 
9:08 AM
@sbi Ok!
 
sbi
@sehe?
 
9:23 AM
^ new figures on pages 17 and 21 -- look OK?
 
9:34 AM
@sbi Did they stuff money in your pockets and serve you cake?
 
9:50 AM
@ScottW Michigan?
 
@sbi That's a positivie thing, no?
 
I was surprised by how damn simple SMTP is.
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik It's about as simple as parsing an email address. It is NOT
It is simplistic. But, like XML, simplistic doesn't generally equate to simple
 
Godverdomme luchtalarm.
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik Haha. I know what you mean. I don't mind
 
10:01 AM
Annoying sound. I was listening to music.
 
Listen closer :)
 
I'll opstaan. I'm hungry as @ScottW.
 
I hate siren tests when I'm recording stuff. But I hate bromfietsen and sand trucks just the same. Soon they'll start driving piles for the construction of the A4 near my place. Good time. Not
@RadekdaknokSlupik Rise to the occasion fridge.
 
@CheersandhthAlf You're writing a C++ book in Word 20[07|10]?
 
10:17 AM
@rubenvb Maybe he's writing it using google docs.
Anyway, don't give in to temptation
Fight your cravings.
You eat the food. The food doesn't eat you.
 
non-veg, yuck!
 
@rubenvb yes?
2010
 
@CheersandhthAlf Brace yourself once you go over ~50 pages.
 
@rubenvb what happens? like the old "master document" thing?
 
@CheersandhthAlf no, Word just starts randomly messing up formatting (only visually, I think printing and pdf are still fine) and scrolling slows down incrementally with the page number.
@CheersandhthAlf why not XeLaTeX it?
 
10:27 AM
uh oh
i never used TeX in any form
 
ah
It's a bitch to learn in the beginning :s
 
but happily, the figures are all embedded png images
because i found the word 2010 drawing tool sucketh
 
lol
inkscape->eps ftw
 
the equations though, are old word 2003 equation editor
yes
 
vector graphics are teh awesomest
 
10:29 AM
:)
 
you use a lot of equations? You gotta learn LaTeX
old 2003 word equation suckeths
 
@rubenvb word 2003's idea of making formulas was insert symbol.. wtf
 
yes but the 2010 equation editor is worse, e.g. it could not even change font (i like consistent fonts)
 
@CheersandhthAlf then use LaTeX. Seriously.
 
well word 2003 had two different equation generators: an EQ field, and a COM based equation editor plug-in
 
10:32 AM
@CheersandhthAlf I think that's a limitation of fonts themselves actually
 
no it worked fine in Word 2003. that's why i'm using the old equation editor. it handles that fine
 
the new equation editor is pretty neat, you can use all the regular TeX backslash-alpha typing and it'll substitute the symbol automagically.
 
yes you can write \bullet, but you can't make it use the same font as in the document
 
well, neither does TeX. A math font needs a ton more symbols
That's normal
 
10:34 AM
Did they really think nobody would write formulas in word documents?
 
that's dumb
symbols are symbols, ordinary text is ordinary text
 
math is math
Do I need to send my 70-page thesis to prove how cool LaTeX makes stuff look? I even used calibri as a text font.
 
yes. the old eq editor uses the font you choose, and just switches font for the symbols where required. that's oooold Windows technology. it's amazing that new Word 2010 is unable to do it.
@rubenvb to make it match equations? he he :-)
 
@CheersandhthAlf I thought you said you liked consistency? Where's the consistency when it switcher on a per-symbol basis?
@CheersandhthAlf eh, no?
 
@rubenvb like, a round bullet is a round bullet in any font.
 
10:36 AM
why do you put a bullet in a math section?
 
@rubenvb I find most latex works extremely boring to look at actually. Latex can help a lot with automatic layout, typesetting, ..., but to create a more or less attractive design you're in for some pain
 
Division in word 2003 - Underline numerator and denominator underneath, usually put there by holding the space bar for 20 seconds.
 
@KillianDS that's the reason I changed the font. Most people just use unmodified defaults.
 
@rubenvb Multiplication
 
@Neil \cdot
a bullet is not multiplication.
 
10:40 AM
@rubenvb You say tomato, I say tomato.
 
@rubenvb There's a lot more to it than fonts. When you need to write a really technical document, latex is awesome. But as soon as you want things like side-comments, inline graphics, quotation boxes, ... you really have some work to do (not that it can't be done, it's just far from trivial). NOt that word is any better though, just saying that latex is far from the holy grail.
 
@KillianDS I agree LaTeX is a pita to use. I've just accepted it could be awesome. Google is your friend to define cool quote boxes etc... if you're lucky.
@Neil your tomato is elephant-sized though.
 
@rubenvb I hardly think people would read a bullet in the middle of a formula and stop, thinking, "What is this?! A bullet!? What's it doing in the middle of my formula!?? Oh OHHH... He meant multiplication.. poor sap."
 
10:56 AM
@rubenvb To kill it without fire
 
Hi, I am looking for AES encryption expert.
 
@user101579 Look at your platform's library ad ditto documentation
and hi
What's the problem with it
 
@Pubby No. Converting a signed number x to unsigned gives you 2^N+x where N is the number of bits in the unsigned type (§4.7/2). In the case of uint8_t, there's nothing implementation defined involved.
 
I would like to have someone to take a look at the custom implentation... The algorithm I have is actually derived from AES/Rijndael...
 

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