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21:00
watching TV
eh
it's between seasons right now, and nothing I want to watch is airing
I am so close to having my unicode basic_string class be complete. The only encoding that's complete is "ascii", but you know. Gotta start somewhere.
On to finding a HTTP server somewhere.
user1174868
21:09
so I have started to learn scheme, there isn't much to the language is there? just a lot of paranetheses and creativity?
Macros and stuff. Haskell's better.
@Jordan And cons, car and cdr. Nothing beyond that really matters.
user1174868
cons car cdr?
Oh, damn.
Not Scheme.
Please.
user1174868
It is okay, you could have told me that is scheme and I would have never known it wasn't
21:12
@Jordan an epically bad threesome
user1174868
:(
@Jordan cons constructs a list (takes two things, and puts them together). car and cdr are the parts of the list -- car is the beginning and cdr is the rest. The names come from assembly language instructions from an ancient DEC computer -- Contents of Address Register and Contents of Decrement Register, to be exact.
list-based languages are dumb
You're dumb.
Bam.
oh noes
21:17
The puppy likes to complain.
I find many things to complain about
correlation does not imply causation
That's why we love him.
GlassFish y u no download.
@RadekdaknokSlupik It did. You just can't see it.
user1174868
calc 2 is so ridiculously hard, why do I even need to know integrals for programming?
21:20
Now it did, finally.
Stupid Maven.
@Jordan Whether or not it's hard depends upon the function you're integrating
user1174868
all the functions
some cannot be integrated, iirc
@Jordan they're surprisingly useful actually. Not the math itself, but the concepts.
user1174868
I just hate how math takes away from my learning of programming
21:23
@Jordan It took me 3 tries to pass, but I used a lot of the concepts in my code afterward. (Had a lousy teacher)
user1174868
I have been going to school for 2 years and have learned almost no programming
@Jordan I can't justify that one, go to a new school.
user1174868
I am trying, but my grades are too bad
@Jordan Math sucks, from my perspective atleast. I know its really frustrating, but when you need to know how to rotate a vector about another vector in space somewhere and display that visually, you'll appreciate the math courses you took.
I'm in the same boat, and think the same thing. But trust me, in the end, its worth it.
IME, Maths is fun but the teachers and general system are absymal
21:26
Amen to that
instead of setting you genuine tasks or teaching you actual knowledge, most of it is pointless repetition best accomplished by a CPU
I'm afraid to repeat myself, but again, amen to that.
user1174868
I have had 10 hours of homework for 5 days in a row now, all for a math class
Yep, sounds about right.
best thing to do
write program to solve homework problems -> profit
21:27
I've used some math a lot (especially geometry/trigonometry), but can't remember that last time I put any calculus to use.
I'd also recommend not shooting yourself in the foot and using a convient website like wolframalpha... You'll pay for not learning the actual methodologies,
user1174868
I am incredibly bad at math, I expect to fail this class anyways and retake it again
user1174868
4 year csci degree takes me 7 years :P
I'm working full time as a software developer and I dont have a degree yet. I expected to graduate in 5 years regardless, but now, add 3 more because I'm working.
Find a programming job to pass the time. Trust me, it helps / motivates.
@Drise IME, Methodologies are the last things being taught
21:30
Now if we want to get into the uselessness of history or literature courses, I will likely wholly agree with you.
@DeadMG In regards to how to integrate (the tricks, tips, and techniques)?
Is this compatible with android tablets?
@Drise yep
user1174868
I think I need ritalin or something for this class
user1174868
I just can't stay awake all day doing homework, and i have about 12 hours left of homework before I go to sleep
@MooingDuck CS is not about programming.
@KillianDS picky picky
21:35
Well, Dead Space 3 will feature snow.
And co-op.
@Jordan Side effects: Nervousness, trouble sleeping, loss of appetite, weight loss, dizziness, nausea, vomiting, headache, or blurred vision may occur.
21:54
@Tony haha, quite tre
*true. Bloody tablet.
user1174868
These MIT online lectures can be pretty bad sometimes, like when you have a question but you are just watching a youtube video so you can't ask it
I supposed you could bring it to SO and get some rep if it hasn't already been asked.
Oh wait, you mean about math, or? If so, just find the appropriate *.se site then.
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A: beginner and cpp class

DaveYour pointer isn't useful at all. Use the object directly: cout << "rect area: " << rect.area() << endl; Describe what you're trying to accomplish please.

^ I upvoted. It's the only reasonable answer. Needs more upvotes.
Great title for a highschool fiction essay
@sehe You need better propaganda for yerr mumble man :)
21:58
@ScarletAmaranth It's not my mumble :) It's > your < mumble
So I must inquire. Is this how one becomes addicted to SO? our is this just one of the symptoms?
Beatings will continue until attendance improves! :)
@CheersandhthAlf that's not helpful. If you want to be helpful, rewrite the question to match the OP's (obvious) intent.
I second mooing duck, as per my comment to that answer.
@ScarletAmaranth Anyways, I'm quite surprised that it actually did take off quite the way it did. I'm happy if it loses some hotness, but it could stay around in case some people wanted to just kick back and r mumble :)
22:00
@sehe It's a good opportunity to speak some English, more often than not I only passively listen / read.
@MooingDuck what's not helpful? that's the most helpful answer. and it is the only reasonable answer. it is what the OP should learn. it is what the OP needs to learn, at once. what's not helpful about that? please explain your association here
@cheers there is no 'why'. No explanation, just do it because he said so.
user1174868
School gets really expensive when you have to take classes over
He however did go to further explain in the comments, but never updated the original answer. Therefore my down vote stands
Indeed it does, Jordan. Indeed it does.
I wished it would pick up my 'return' rather than just inserting a new line.
It being the input box. Apparently it doesn't like my tablet's return button.
@CheersandhthAlf as I read it again, the question is very unclear, and should be closed. I have no idea what he wants.
dangit, I hate it when VC++'s first 33 errors are in standard headers.
22:09
I agree that the question is unclear. But I think it's like a bug that you don't know the cause of, but you have a fix anyway. The answer (IMO) is to put the OP on the straight wrt. need for pointers.
@CheersandhthAlf considering the sites he linked, I'd assumed this was a learning exercise and he was right on the edge of learning dynamic memory. I voted to close since it's unclear.
I thought it was explicitly stated it was a learning exercise?
I thought that was explicitly stated.
user1174868
Days need more hours, 24 isn't enough for calc 2
@Drise you thought wrong
Oh well Jordan, there's your problem. Its Cal 2.
22:12
@Jordan A definite integral is just the area under the graph, from one place on x-axis to another.
I think a simple approach is to consider first integer functions.
user1174868
I am doing integration of rational function by partial fractions
Ouch
user1174868
shit is hard yo
diarrhea is soft yo
Lol
user1174868
22:14
I don't know how to do algebraic division, partial fractions, linear equations with 3 variables so I need to learn all that before I can start this
Fuck yeah GlassFish finally downloaded.
interestingly, clang is also giving me errors for it's headers.
it's interesting. in norwegian "stol" is a chair (that you put your behind on), while in english "stool" is shit (that comes out of the behind)
similarly, in norwegian "ekorn" is a squirrel, while in english "acorn" is that thing that squirrels eat
@mooingDuck make clean?
if i understand it correctly
22:15
Eekhoorn in Dutch.
lol Netbeans is indexing over a thousand classes.
@Drise it's the first time clang has ever been run on this project
@CheersandhthAlf stool has both meanings in English. Though the chair is far more common.
Macros maybe?
@MooingDuck Not really. Stools are very short and have no backs. It's not really the same as a chair.
And stool is context dependent. I gave the doctor a stool sample while sitting on a stool is a fun thought experiment.
@Drise hardly a thought experiment, there's no conclusion.
22:18
Fun example?
stool |sto͞ol| noun
1 a seat without a back or arms, typically resting on three or four legs or on a single pedestal. • short for footstool.
2 a piece of feces.
3 a root or stump of a tree or plant from which shoots spring.
4 a decoy bird in hunting.
I'm trying to listen to a lecture on unit testing simultaneously. Pardon my phrasing.
@TonyTheLion unmute/undeafen?
Yay! Dictionaries!
I'm here
22:21
8.7 kB/s ಠ_ಠ
awoodland for moderator!
The puppy should be a mod.
The puppy is too busy sucking donkey cock.
@RadekdaknokSlupik he'd be a lousy mod
Ell
Ell
Hi guys
22:22
Hey Elliot.
DeadMG should be a moderator's crony
He can do the dirty work
@Pubby DeadMG: KILL!
@MooingDuck I think you're confusing DeadMG with the Robot
@Pubby nonsense, you can't order a robot to do anything.
Yeah you can, just add sudo!
22:25
and I've shown to be particularly amenable to accepting other people's requests?
Ell
Ell
Prefix sudo :P
Why do I find it difficult to properly answer questions, or even find a question to answer at all?
Ell
Ell
Maybe you don't know the answers? Thats my probelm
Or maybe you are put off by the fact people have Lready answered
Should I answer a question that already has a suitable answer, or should I just up vote whoever beat me to the punch?
@Drise upvote
and explain upvote
at least that's what i do
but then i don't give a ..... about rep
Ell
Ell
22:31
I rarely ask or answer qiestions, just chat
user1174868
I ask lots of questions and bitch even more
user1174868
It's hard being me.
I don't get it
22:32
spam spam spam
@Pubby mumble rumble
user1174868
Yeah that doesn't make sense
Good thing woof is ignoring me here in the lounge. Woof stinks ! :)
^^
user1174868
I wish I could just pay my calc teacher $4,000 to get an A in the class and then learn it on my own
Ell
Ell
What do you mean?
22:34
@Jordan that's sick
user1174868
Why?
That's called bribery and is likely illegal in your district
user1174868
Yes it is definitely illegal, but it a victimless crime
Ell
Ell
More than likely
s/district/law enforcement area/
user1174868
22:35
It harms no one and then I get to learn calculus stress free
If anyone finds out then bribe them too
Ell
Ell
It isnt victimless? What about welhen you make a mistake and cost someone their life
Can't think of the word.
user1174868
I need all As to transfer out of my shitty inner city community college
Ell
Ell
Like miscalculating the strength of a steal beam
Or something :L
22:36
Oo! Oo! ake a shit on the teacher's desk like a boss?
Or at least threaten to..
I think actually doing it wouldn't get you far.
Ell
Ell
Haha
user1174868
I hate school, can't stand it anymore
Without school no money.
Might get you suspended too. Just verbally tell them with no witnesses so there is no proof you said it.
With school a small amount of money
22:39
I'm starting to like Java. Is this bad?
Likely.
Ell
Ell
Noo java is good
But every company I've ever seen loves the shit out of java, so its probably worthwhile
@RadekdaknokSlupik Yes.
@rubenvb: C:/MinGW/bin\..\lib\clang\3.1/../../../include/c++/4.5.4\exception_ptr.h(132,12‌​) : error: unknown type name 'type_info' is my first compiler error.
Ell
Ell
22:42
Java is better than c++ anyways
@Ell you. out.
Ell
Ell
But not at good as c
Haha kidding of course :P
Why is c still around? Isn't it outdated compared to c++?
Ell
Ell
Not for systems where a c++ compiler isn't avaolable
Daknok the vacuum cleaner
22:43
@Drise Because people are too stupid and uneducated to see how awful it is.
just like many, many, many other systems.
@Drise also lots of older coders don't like C++ because it does things automatically for you
Well, outdated in general now that I think about it.
Ell
Ell
Or legacy systems. That's the only reason I can thinj
Why is C++ around? Isn't it outdated compared to Haskell?
@Pubby Nope.
22:44
And Haskell is outdated compared to all those other funny languages.
And why in the world would you ever try to use objective c.
Because Obj-C is the "interface-language" of all Apple platforms.
Ell
Ell
Its all a matter of opinion, mostly I would see
Why would you use Objective-C, Haskell or C++ when you have Java?! :D
If I understand correctly, its c with objects, right?
22:45
@rubenvb: full error here
C++ is C with ++
++ is + with +
+ is - with |
Ell
Ell
C += + += +
22:46
Why doesn't C++ have ^^ (like || and &&)?
That's invalid syntax?
Ell
Ell
Probably
why would it?
@RadekdaknokSlupik I never thought about it
^^ is the same as !=
22:47
Because otherwise you need (x && !y) || (y && !x)
@Pubby oh right
Oh yeah. :P
C&&
sepples
Is there a synonym for interface? I cannot use it because it's a reserved word.
Any fans of vb.net?
Ell
Ell
22:50
Me :)
@Ell can you talk
@RadekdaknokSlupik api
Ell
Ell
First language I learned
Yay! .net buddies!
Fans, ventilators, propellers, turbines.
22:50
Like in, not beneith the blanket
@Drise I've written code in that language, and I don't like it
Ell
Ell
Sorry no ruby I learned first, vb.net second
@MooingDuck nice one.
Ell
Ell
But still, I like It
I can always refactor later.
22:52
I feel its a good intro language that has quite a bit of power that most over look or make fun of because its basic.
Ell
Ell
Yea
GWBASIC is the best BASIC
Ell
Ell
The more English like syntax helps
I mean, I have a working key logger written in vb. I'd say that's pretty powerful.
Ell
Ell
Aka. Dim myvar as Integer
22:53
@Pubby Dat so true
Ell
Ell
Or function ABC as integer
Yes! Yes!
@Drise That's not really relevant, all that means is you can call WinAPI
Ooo I'm getting all excited.
Ell
Ell
Yeah I do agree with deadmg on this one, with pinvoke you are writing bastardised C
22:55
DeadMG true, but I can still do it and do it rather quickly compared to other languages.
@Drise That doesn't really mean anything about the language itself, only your familiarity with it
The time it takes for me to write equivalent code in say c++ and the amount of code in c++ is great in my experience.
Ell
Ell
When I first started vb.net'ing the quick and easy GUI design was what made it so brilliant
But then you could argue that's the ide
Yes, very true Eli.
user1174868
God I feel stupid, I have spent 3 hours trying to understand integration by partial fractions, I was in class for a 2 h our lecture, watch the MIT lecture, read online notes and I still don't get it
22:57
Again time to deploy being so little is my final arguement
@Jordan visit math.se?
user1174868
I got banned from there
@Jordan Wooot!
Ell
Ell
Howcome?
user1174868
I am not academic enough
user1174868
also I am not a nice person and I whine a lot too probably
Ell
Ell
22:59
You can't be banned for thst?
Ohh :L

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