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8:00 PM
Wasn't there a movie about that? The hitman went back in time but he didn't kill them. Looked pretty stupid.
(It's not terminator, it's a new movie)
 
@Pubby yes
 
"... and then murder my former self. Ok, I've got my plan laid out. Now let's get started on these age-reversing and time trav- wait, what's that?"
"I'm here to finish the plan."
"Damn, this plan sucks. Why do *you* get to be the living one?"
 
@thecoshman Well, it clearly wasn't this student #357569 since there would have to be a mole on the neck and on the left hand.
 
"How do I know it's really you and not my future arch-nemesis using advanced technology to look like me?"
"Think of a number. 23."
"Oh..."
I shouldn't be using chat to write down the crap my imagination is generating.
 
Gosh privacy is overrated in India. They all have moles. Nenavath Jansi has one on 'her right hand middle thumb' (WTF is that)
 
Xeo
8:04 PM
Question: Is istream::seekg actually useful on anything else than a file stream?
 
@Xeo A stringstream?
 
Xeo
That was basically the target of my question, yeah. But how does seekg work for std::cin I wonder...
 
@sehe The presence of "Caste & Sub Caste" tells me that equality is still an issue there.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Worse:
> Is the Caste Certificate available : YES
 
8:06 PM
@sehe Oh gawd. They're mutants.
 
There are certificates for it, and apparently it is good form to not use school issued uniforms, cosmotics (sic), plates etc.
@RMartinhoFernandes I think she just gave the interviewer the middle finger on the intake
I'd be enraged if I found my school government had this kind of leaky website. I mean, freaking google indexed it 8-0
It appears that all of kids enrolling in education in India are in that system. This database is vast
 
@sehe Yes, and doing a quick check with changing the "stid=xxx" to different numbers, every number I've tried has been accepted. If it was sparse, at least you'd have to do a little work to grab data...
 
so since getting the cat, we have been trying to make sure we always close the toilet, just encase. Turns out, from the curiously damp cat and poor prints all over the seat that; I am glad we flush every time, we where right to think it would happen and luckily we had nothing to worry about
 
@JerryCoffin I've been hitting a wide range too. And some even have actual 'mugshots' with them
 
@thecoshman I remember when my sister's cat discovered that he has to check that the seat is down before jumping on the toilet. Good times.
 
8:14 PM
lol
 
@sehe Well, you see, organized crime was making a lot of money off of forging passports. This has reduced the price a great deal, thus making crime much less profitable! (Hmmm...with logic like that, I think I'm ready to run for office myself).
 
> I know what code refactoring is and I know that's a cat in a bath tub, but this makes no fucking sense to me.
Clearly never did a really big refactoring.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes clearly
 
I think it conveys the idea quite clearly if you have ever done it.
It's almost art.
 
Xeo
8:17 PM
I never did big scale refactoring (or refactoring in general, really) and can understand the feeling behind the GIF
 
@Xeo All I've done is tried to alter existing java to have fewer errors, and I definitely understand the GIF :/
 
> Ok, a little touch here, a bit there, now I chang- no, not this one, that one, and no- OH GOD! OH GOD! OH GOD! REVERT! REVERT! REVERT!
 
Xeo
Exactly
 
You shouldn't "point" him to boost or smart pointers and advanced concepts, unless he's asked for them. vector<Unit*> will do, and that's where the beginner should start. The more colons and identifiers you put in your expressions, the harder it is for newbies to catch on. — bobobobo 38 secs ago
 
I love refactoring old code and running into the //this line is critical. I don't know why, but if you remove it, ewoks die. comments
 
Xeo
8:22 PM
@bobobobo: I hope you may never become a C++ teacher. — Xeo 52 secs ago
 
@SamDeHaan A few decades ago, I got to work on the system the college used for programming contests. Quite literally the only comments in the entire thing were quotes from Edgar Allen Poe, at apparently entirely random locations. I was half expecting a "never more" where it exited, but none of it was even that relevant.
 
@SamDeHaan With that "threat", I'd remove it in a pinch! Death to ewoks.
 
@MooingDuck I just hope she learnt :P
 
@JerryCoffin That sounds more reasonable than the majority of the comments in the legacy code I have to support. At least they are intentionally not relevant. I run into comments all the time that are completely wrong. Someone refactored, but left the comment. Makes me /rage
 
@bobobobo I don't like to assume total strangers are incapable of understanding "advanced" things. I find that condescending.. — R. Martinho Fernandes 14 secs ago
 
8:27 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes If I had a dime for every time I've said something like that...
 
Awesome, looks like we're scheduling the May edition of our monthly friend-reunion-dinner-thingy for the 1st of June.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes There's something wrong in there, but I can't quite put my finger on it.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I'm tempted to put in some flip remark about being lucky don't have a blonde doing it, so it's scheduled for the 63rd of April, but to keep us from being more sexist, I'll refrain.
 
lol
@EtiennedeMartel We totally suck at this. We spend the entire month trading e-mails trying to agree on a place and time, and always end up deciding the time on the last week of the month. The place is decided 5 minutes before we head out towards it.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Ever thought about using Doodle?
 
8:33 PM
And we keep saying "next month we'll decide this quick".
@EtiennedeMartel Tried it in April, didn't really work (I have no idea why)
The problem is that every one says stuff like "I'm free all week", and no one steps up with an actual date.
 
Me and a bunch of my friends have these little get-together called "Bière++". Every thursday, we get to a bar in Montreal after work and drink beer. Since it's always on the same day and at the same time, it's hard to wiggle away. Also, at every session we pick someone to choose the place of the next edition (with rotation).
 
I don't really get together with anybody. That would require having to actually be with other human beings.
 
Never failed once.
@DeadMG You should try it. It's fun.
 
pffft
 
Humans are social animals after all. We need others.
 
8:37 PM
you need others.
 
@DeadMG Yes, but have you tried getting together with any robots?
 
@DeadMG I am a robot. I don't spend time with other human beings.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Oh, so you mean you got your own robot gang?
I would have thought you robots would be better at scheduling.
 
my primary experience is that other people are not really worth the time
 
@EtiennedeMartel No, I spend time with human beings. Just not other.
 
8:38 PM
Oooh.
@DeadMG That's quite the experience you got.
 
indeed
 
@EtiennedeMartel Watch out for observer error
 
For what?
 
@DeadMG Why are you here?
 
Error introduced by observer (i.e. different observers draw different conclusions)
@RMartinhoFernandes To moan
 
8:41 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes Because I can leave any time I like.
 
Is it possible to have two different lines when creating edges between two nodes using tikzpicture?
 
@sehe Often associated with confirmation bias.
@DeadMG And in-the-flesh you can't?
 
@DeadMG Thruth in advertising
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Hard to watch TV and talk to a few friends all at the same time, it's an auditory system limitation
 
@sehe Yes, I understand. But I still feel like spending a few hours with cool people while drinking beer can't really go wrong.
 
8:43 PM
@DeadMG Erm. Ok.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes What?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Well, but it certainly can be be 'not-fun'
 
being here is very drop in, drop out, and I really like that fact
 
@DeadMG People are nice if you want to get laid
 
not as important to me as I used to think
 
8:44 PM
@DeadMG Nothing, it's just that I don't think I have any new argument. (We already had the discussion this was heading towards)
 
@sehe Not with the friends I got.
 
we did?
 
@sehe Pick better friends.
 
yesterday, by sehe
@DeadMG Try changing the batteries for your main memory :)
 
I only remember espousing the value of the giant X button on my browser and the lack of it IRL being a big flaw to sbi... this morning
 
8:45 PM
What was it? Those who are no longer your friends never were?
 
When are we having a big C++ Lounge gathering?
 
@DeadMG Well, I was going to say that you can watch TV with friends.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes No, regular people can watch TV with friends.
 
@ManofOneWay You could all come here. Otherwise, I'm waayyy to lazy to move to Europe.
 
I, for example, regularly pause it to chat here
or to talk to myself
 
8:45 PM
@DeadMG Right, I know. That was the discussion we already had.
 
ok
 
I think Portugal has the best climate so let's travel to @RMartinhoFernandes !
4
 
Everyone in his flat. Go.
Shotgun on the couch.
 
I HATE PERFORCE
5
 
8:47 PM
Haha
 
@MooingDuck Insta-star.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Whose flat?
 
Lovely weather these days, actually.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Depends a lot on my mood too. Most often I like 'socializing' for a fair bit of time, but then there's a drop-off: I need to 'be offline' so to say. That moment depends heavily on my energy levels and I can hardly predict it.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes too hot
 
8:47 PM
@DeadMG Oh, come on, you know what that word means.
 
So Perforce is the new bad kid in town?
 
@DeadMG And you, too whiny.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes If I have a window (not perforce) selected, and then right click a file, it opens the context menu, and then selects the first action. "Open". So a new instance of visual studio launches...
 
@EtiennedeMartel Which one? Your sentence was composed of several, all of which I comprehend, but seem to require a little more context to make sens.
 
@DeadMG 15º-30º is too hot?
 
8:48 PM
@sehe I think we're all that way.
 
I suppose most people I know are ware of how that works with me.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes That's a pretty large range
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Don't know the temperature here, but I prefer 20º at most
 
@EtiennedeMartel really? I guess I've learned to socialize rather late so it has felt as a conscious 'effort'. That may have lead to the idea that the 'I can only take so-much' threshold isn't widely spread
 
@SamDeHaan It gets cold at night.
It's gonna rain in the weekend.
And maximum 23º.
 
8:49 PM
@sehe I think most people have no problem being with other people, but we do all need some cooldown time now and then.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Didn't realize you were giving thaaaat range.
 
@SamDeHaan It's actually quite random around here. It's annoying when you get out in the morning with a coat and an umbrella, and by noon you're with a short sleeve shirt and sweating all over.
 
whaaaaat
:)
 
Thaaat.
 
This city has the worst weather in the country.
 
8:50 PM
Mine is longer
 
@sehe I have a ridiculously high tolerance, though. I have no problem with the kind of people most find annoying.
 
@DeadMG My flat.
Inferable from context.
 
sounds like a long way away from here
 
Yes.
Oh, I misread @DeadMG's. My mistake.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes It's pretty random in Michigan. If you don't like the weather, wait twenty minutes. It'll change.
 
8:51 PM
@DeadMG Oh, come on, at least you don't have a fucking ocean to cross.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I think that between here and Portugal is (not at all) further than from France Canada (I R fail) to Portugal
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I'm not sure I can come. I'll have to inspect your caste certificate first.
 
oh, wait, my mistake
 
You can get a low cost flight from London for like 50€.
 
Ryanair, nasty shit, but cheap!
 
8:53 PM
@DeadMG lol
@ManofOneWay Yeah.
@JerryCoffin What if I told you about my birth plant?
Robots are born from plants.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Maybe -- but only if you don't have any moles on your middle thumb.
 
I only have two thumbs.
 
@EtiennedeMartel It's not about people being annoying. It is about me expending much energy and generally getting uncomfortable/strained.
I love to be around my kids, as well, but I can only give them focused attention for so-long at a time. Most naturally, I'll just be there and monitor everything. I can sense frustration, boredom etc. coming up way before it becomes apparent and I usually respond to those tiny cues to 'make contact', but I love to 'let go' quite soon after.
 
so what is the deal with the whole meetup thing?
 
(Do big toes counts as thumbs?)
 
8:55 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes So... twiddle them you can
 
I heard rumours about it but saw no details
 
@DeadMG No idea. I was just playing along.
 
This is serious stuff
We should meet up
 
We should get drunk.
 
Yes, in @RMartinhoFernandes flat
 
8:56 PM
yesterday, by sehe
You didn't cheese to be serious
 
@ManofOneWay I don't have booze around...
 
let's go to Canada where it's nice and cool
also people speak English
 
@DeadMG Not in Quebec.
 
Better yet, the arctic :)
Where it is nice and freezing and people don't generally speak much
 
(No idea if that's true.)
 
8:57 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes They do. Half of Montreal's population doesn't speak French as its first language, from what I've heard.
 
Michigan > Canada, imo.
 
You can all come here, to Sweden. We have beautiful women here
 
@SamDeHaan unresolved overload (or no implicit conversion defined)
 
@ManofOneWay You're trying to bribe us with women?
 
I'm drowning.
 
8:59 PM
Wut? Wherein?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes We also got really good internet connections here
 
Awful code I wrote. Wait, that first word is redundant.
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik The question is, what are you drowning, and why?
 
@DeadMG But, it's not always cool: temperature can go as high as 30º in the summer.
 
awww fuckles
 
8:59 PM
@JerryCoffin You always do that thing.
:)
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Is nice
 
And it's humid as hell. World's largest fresh water supply, after all.
 
Gravity in Canada is lower.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes It's a gift. What can I say?
 
@JerryCoffin You like to toggle transitivity and valency on (ambitransitive) verbs.
 
9:01 PM
Unfortunately, I can't really recommend Colorado -- the weather's nice, but people from sea level tend to get altitude sickness for the first week or so...
 
How high is that thing?
 
Ain't no mountain high enough...
 
@sehe Damn
 
fine
let's go to like, Norway or something
it's gotta be cool in Norway
 
@sehe "ambitransitive"? People get surgery for that, right?
 
9:02 PM
or Siberia
 
@JerryCoffin They might have to pay for it, though
 
How the hell can you like snow?
 
it's nice and cool
 
Snow is cool.
 
In linguistics, verb valency or valence refers to the number of arguments controlled by a verbal predicate. It is related, though not identical, to verb transitivity, which counts only object arguments of the verbal predicate. Verb valency, on the other hand, includes all arguments, including the subject of the verb. The linguistic meaning of valence derives from the definition of valency in chemistry. This scientific metaphor is due to Lucien Tesnière, who developed verb valency into a major component of his (what would later become known as) dependency grammar theory of syntax and grammar...
 
9:03 PM
not a fan or when it becomes ice, though
 
@DeadMG Perhaps St. Petersburg -- cool, humid, and (honestly) more hot women than any place else I've ever been.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Hell doesn't like snow
 
@JerryCoffin I guess they don't radiate much then.
 
@sehe There's a "you" in there, ya know.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Apparently not.
 
9:04 PM
Snow is great, and ice can be fun.
 
@JerryCoffin Eh. I'll skip the hot women
 
@DeadMG You don't have to deal with a metric shit ton of it every six months, eh?
 
Our winter was terrible this year, I didn't even have to break out a real jacket.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Sorry: Hell doesn't like you (FTFY)
 
@EtiennedeMartel True, but we've had plenty of it in recent years here in the UK.
 
9:04 PM
"plenty of it", lol
 
Well, I have to go for a while. Later all.
 
Oh, right. I recall seeing images of a snow storm in London; all the medias were like "this is terrible", and I was like "amateurs".
 
@JerryCoffin a quick check got me 4507 unique student profiles, and 378 missing ones
 
@sehe density of 92%?
 
You do did the math. Average size of 12kB per page
Compressed size of 703kB (bzip2)
@JerryCoffin the amazing thing is, I'm scraping 3 pages every 2 seconds, and I'm still not on IP ban or throttle or something. Interesting.
 
9:12 PM
Why so slow?
 
For IP ban or throttle, whoever made this would have to think about it beforehand.
And I don't think whoever made this did much thinking about anything.
 
@sehe almost a full hour? huh
@RMartinhoFernandes fear of IP ban or throttle or something.
 
@MooingDuck Yeah, I just kicked the command of (single line) and forgot about it :)
@RMartinhoFernandes Because crappy indian government cgi script on (guesssing) DB3 database or something :) Or perhaps on a text file and the cgi is in C-without-objects. Hrmpfff
 
It's not in C.
 
@sehe one at a time on a computer on the other side of the planet?
 
9:18 PM
It's Java.
 
What is
 
.do pseudo-extension is used by one of those big enterprisey frameworks.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes why you get 4 upvotes for a simple oneliner
 
@CatPlusPlus Oh yeah, I recognized it. However, I think it isn't constrained to Java
 
I don't remember which one was it, though.
 
9:19 PM
@bamboon because the answer deserves it (... oh well)
that is false; you can have a race condition if you try to read an element WHILE its being added to the vector — pee kay 6 mins ago
^ ouch
@CatPlusPlus Anyways, if tomorrow's paper reports a big fire in an overheating datacenter in India, we know what happened
 
If we never again see you, we know which country's specops got you.
I have another test tomorrow, my brain refuses to work.
Dammit.
 
@CatPlusPlus I'm not afraid. If they even had specops, they wouldn't have this kind of leak
Turns out, 'SAVARA RAMESH' is a rather popular name, with a frequency of 9 out of 6038 records
      3 SAVARA ANANDARAO
      3 SAVARA CHINNA RAO
      3 SAVARA JANAKI
      3 SAVARA NARESH
      3 SAVARA SUDHAKAR
      3 SAVARA SWATHI
      4 SAVARA RAVI
      4 SAVARA SUJATHA
      4 SAVARA SURESH
      5 SAVARA LAKSHMI
      5 SAVARA ROJA
      6 SAVARA SIMHACHALAM
      9 SAVARA RAMESH
 
Sockpuppets.
 
Someone know why 'SAVARA' is so frequent? I'm guessing 'large' family/tribe
@CatPlusPlus Lol
 
@sehe You'd get similar results with "Smith" or something in English
 
9:24 PM
@sehe of course that's right
 
@DeadMG Yeah, I guess. Only 42 'Ravi'-s in the same sample, though, versus 370 occurrences of SAVARA
 
40% of Vietnam is called "Nguyen". It's one of those "we're not very creative with our names" things.
DAMMIT.
 
One of those thing :)
 
I have no idea how to proceed with my SHA-2 solver
 
@bamboon Dunno. I can't really control that.
 
9:27 PM
oh wait, I already had two ideas
 
@DeadMG Try left.
 
@CatPlusPlus Only 40%?
 
@DeadMG Upgrade from bitbucket to wastebin.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Wiki says so.
Nguyễn (Northern pronunciation , southern is the most common Vietnamese family name. By some estimates, approximately forty percent of Vietnamese people have this surname. The prevalence of Nguyễn as a family name in Vietnam extends to outside of the country where many Vietnamese people have emigrated. Nguyễn is the seventh most common family name in Australia (second only to Smith in the Melbourne phone books), and the fifty-fourth most common in France. In the United States, it is the fifty-seventh most common family name according to the 2000 Census, as well as the most common excl...
 
I thought it was a lot more.
@sehe I have no idea what to reply to those things.
 
9:28 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes That's amazing. 40% is crazy. Girls and boys?
 
Two squiggles over one letter. Gosh.
 
@sehe It's a family name.
 
@CatPlusPlus Welcome to Vietnamese
 
Zalgo is Vietnamese.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Luckily, someone else managed it for you
Yay another 25 SAVARA's downloaded since last last count (370+25=395)
 
9:30 PM
You're really bored, aren't you.
 
What makes you think that
ROFL
 
Also, you're italic!
 
I'm really thinking who I can sell the database to.
@CatPlusPlus Shhh. I was keeping it a secret.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes you are a robot, you can just enter the matrix
 
@bamboon I did think about it being a one-liner before pushing "post", but I really couldn't think of anything else to say.
 
9:31 PM
What's up.
 
Seven
 
I prefer Sprite.
 
Space.
Lol.
 
Clipboard fail :)
 
9:32 PM
I'm currently drinking Coke. Right out of a 2L bottle. At work.
I'm so hardcore.
 
You shouldn't drink Coke. Sniffing it is much more effective.
 
@EtiennedeMartel You'll spoil you're beautiful figure
 
@EtiennedeMartel Read the topic!
 
I drank 12L during past week.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Isn't the topic about Sprite?
 
9:33 PM
Why'd you guys italicize your names? I recall that italics names had some side effect in chat, but I can't recall waht it was
 
@RMartinhoFernandes yeah, I thought the same and wanted to drop a comment but you are just too fast
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Yeah, I don't do porn for change any more. I expect real money these days.
 
We're room owners.
 
or am I imagining things
 
We own you.
 
9:33 PM
@CatPlusPlus oh, I guess that makes sense
 
@MooingDuck It's to mark owners.
 
Lol I never even noticed the italic names.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Woot. The robot was late.
 
One day I'll make a better chat with better owner powers.
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik someone mentioned something earlier, I thought they were saying that someone made their name italic somehow, and it interfered with quotes or something. And that's exactly why I don't trust my memory.
 
9:34 PM
@sehe The router is acting up!
 
@CatPlusPlus smite?
@CatPlusPlus temporarily change a user's avatar/name?
mute is an obvious power
 
Yes, trollsmite.
 
@CatPlusPlus You know, if I manage to get off my lazy ass and get working a fucking C++11 compiler, I might tackle an OS X driver for Springbok. That's a lot of ifs though.
 
"translate to elmer fudd/pirate/other"
 
@EtiennedeMartel That'd be nice.
 
9:36 PM
/NukeFromOrbit
 
@EtiennedeMartel I feel like you swapped some words there
 
You accidentally sentence structure.
 
I don't think compilers are fuckable.
 
Rule 34.
 
9:37 PM
I do think compilers are fucked up.
 
I'd Google that up, but I'm at work.
 
(selfdestruct completed)
 
Teehee.
 
Lol someone just posted 600 lines of code in a question.
 
9:38 PM
Linky pleasy.
 
660.
0
Q: C++ need a greedy algorithm

Sbiera BogdanI have this problem :"Consider n balloons that are moving vertically. Select the biggest number of balloons such that they will not touch between them." The program should read from the first line of a file the number of balloons n .On each of the next n lines there are 3 numbers the x and y coo...

 
@sehe Another clipboard fail?
 
> Stack Overflow is not going to read all that
I feel like this needs to be appended with ", motherfucker"
 
@EtiennedeMartel the puppy would've just done that.
 
9:43 PM
@RadekdaknokSlupik Totally.
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik No, actually a SO search race. I searched for the earlier [closed] post, but I found the one, haveing been closed in the mean time :)
 
What happens if you close an old question as a dupe of a newer question?
 
Nothing.
Other than it being closed, obviously.
 
@MooingDuck Anyways, I have more name special-effects. Star this message to see it :)‮
4
 
9:45 PM
@sehe I'm aware of that one
 
F.lux y u only main monitor.
 
@MooingDuck Which one? I'm pretty sure you don't know about it. I'm not even sure it works, myself
 
@sehe unstarring messages?
 
@MooingDuck --> name <-- special effects. I was responding to your 'italics' q
@MooingDuck That's beautiful! It worksed :)
Now I leave it to you detectives to work out the trick (the robot is excluded from participation)
 
RTL override.
 
9:48 PM
Winner
I bet you saw my earlier 'attempt' with the Effective C++ hyperlink in reverse. Wasn't so nice as this, though. Perhaps this should count as a bug report :)
 
It's an ancient trick.
 
hey robot, is you ere?
 
@sehe It's not like that's new here.
Mar 26 at 15:58, by R. Martinho Fernandes
 
Wife enters the house: "O sweet guy, am I happy to see you".
Me: "Erm.. Okay?"
Wife: "Not YOU!"
 
You even took part in the discussion that followed.
 
9:50 PM
for(int i = 0; i < 8; i++) {
    for(int j = 0; j < 32; j++) {
        known[h[i].e->bits[j]] = true;
        value[h[i].e->bits[j]] = (real_h[i] >> j) & 1;
    }
}
that gets value right?
 
What is it supposed to do?
value is a map?
 
yep
I'm taking your advice and solving for a specific hash
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I never realized it had anything to do with RTL/LTR direction overrides. I thought you had some funny non-printing character to create an empty message. :)
 
now I hashed an input and representing it's value in the map
extracting each individual bit
 
Looks right.
 
9:53 PM
good stuff
 
@thecoshman turns out my wife was talking about the cat (not you, @Cat)
 
if a ^ b = c, then a ^ c = b, right?
 
@DeadMG Yup
 
awesumsource
mmm... sauce
 

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