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7:00 PM
hehe, my question now has hotness 666
I guess it doesn’t get hotter by definition, right?
 
lol
 
@RMartinhoFernandes damn you are fast
 
The first four chapters were mostly rehashing of things I already knew.
Chapter five is quite interesting.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I can imagine that
have you tried one of the examples yet?
 
Oh hey, this month's stackmonthly is out. stackmonthly.com
@DeadMG Your iterator question is up there.
 
7:04 PM
@Mysticial Maybe I'll finally get that Great Question badge :P
 
I see a strong dominance of C and C++ questions.
 
Probably because virtually all programmers know at least some C++.
 
Most might know C with classes.
 
Oh woah, I have two answers on that list for April... (I thought I only had one.)
 
I need more material on "what's new in C++11," anyone got any (not-newb) good web links?
 
7:07 PM
I assume you've been to Wikipedia and Bjarne's page?
There are few questions that explain the new concepts in the too.
 
@stdOrgnlDave wikipedia and Bjarne
Also, I just learned the WoW has a rare level 8 NPC bear named Bjarne. Doesn't seem to be a reference though.
 
wiki is great, been through that, not quite as comprehensive as I'd have liked
 
You can always ask here. Or read the standard.
 
@stdOrgnlDave a lot is relatively simple, or else you have to read a chapter of a book.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes did you try the memory order examples?
 
7:13 PM
No, I didn't run them.
Why?
 
Note to self: **/*.cpp is recursive, **.cpp is not. Also Markdown hates me.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes because I tried to fire one of those asserts but I just couldn't make it happen. I somehow assume it's a gcc thing but I am not sure
 
One file and 1/4th of the console buffer is errors.
I'm great.
Apparently I suck and GCC 4.6 is too old.
 
@bamboon Oh, that's the problem with concurrency. The problems only manifest themselves non-deterministically.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes it's not that I tried it only once
 
7:18 PM
OK, I've seen here and there, in some complex template instantiations, endings with >>...> . I can't find any info on the web on why you'd put ... there instead of just closing the brackets.
 
@stdOrgnlDave ... expands variadic template parameter packs.
 
@MooingDuck short example?
 
@bamboon Sure, but the fact that it didn't to fire means nothing. Only if it fired could you draw a conclusion.
 
@stdOrgnlDave sec, it takes several lines of code
 
template <typename... Ts> void foo(Ts&&...) { }, foo(1, 2, 3, "foo", blah());
 
7:19 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes yeah ok, that's right
 
If it fires, there's a problem. If it doesn't fire, there may or may not be a problem.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes according to the gcc page the memory model isn't even supported
 
And since the examples are really small (for practical reasons, obviously), it may be very hard for those issues to manifest.
@bamboon Oh, and there's that.
 
@CatPlusPlus yes, you just defined a template like that. you didn't show my why the ... would be there when I instantiated it
 
With a pack <int, float, int>, Ts&&... expands to int&&, float&&, int&&.
Well you could have template <typename... Ts> void bar() { foo<Ts...>(); }
 
7:21 PM
OK
thank you
 
What's the drill with this question: stackoverflow.com/questions/10273315/viewmodel-saving-data ?
Should it be flagged? rolled-back?
 
I rolled it back.
 
Cool
 
@Fraser wierd that he did that to his own question
 
7:26 PM
Yeah - he did it to his other also.
I wonder if he got told by his boss to pull it?
 
probably
 
I suppose if it's a problem for him, he'll just delete them.
 
@Fraser In that case, he should have at least posted a comment.
And flag for a mod's attention.
@Fraser You can't delete your questions if they have answers.
Which is fair to those who took their time to answer.
 
Ah - right.
I thought I had an answer deleted a while back
But the question was only minutes old
and the whole thing got deleted
 
If it is voted to delete by three 10k users, everything gets deleted.
Though it's possible that there's a small window for the owner to delete it even if there are answers.
 
7:37 PM
Yeah - it could be the latter
It was the sort of thing I often do at work
As soon as you ask the question you realise the answer yourself
and feel like an idiot for asking
 
Ell
you should rubber duck :L
 
Ahhh.. the old rubber duck ploy
wtf?
 
I just need to answer one more question to get the silver badge.
 
hmm, Anyone know anything about the Marmalade library? a user seems to think the marmalade headers have #define std _STL somewhere.
 
Gosh.
WTF.
Gosh.
Who the fuck who'd think of doing that?
And why are they still alive?
 
7:46 PM
> mobile apps
 
What are you trying to say?
 
I'm of the opinion that someone (in a/the library header?) has a variable std of type _STL judging by the error messages.
 
That it must suck.
 
PC is also mobile. Just less.
 
Touche @StackedCrooked. Touche....
 
7:49 PM
@StackedCrooked they do support LG Smart TV though, and bada
They do have beta support for Windows and OSX
 
Ell
I don't understand the constraints of static_cast -.-
 
Which ones?
 
@Ell just read the standard
Does anyone have any idea when VS 11 is supposed to be released
it's been a while since I checked
 
I don't think there's a known date.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes any estimation? Will it be out this year?
 
7:58 PM
I think the plan is to release this year, yeah.
 
Whenever I'm returning an object such as "Obj1 obj = myclass.getActiveInstance();" Should I be using a pointer, as it'll use less memory? (I'm new to C++ as highlighted earlier, so please forgive my newbness)
 
@SethCarnegie channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/… "My best guess, but it is just a guess, will be spring next year (2nd qarter). We're expecting SQL Server 2010, Visual Studio 2012 and Windows 8 all around then. We think Office 2012 will be later in the year, probably 3rd or 4th quarter."
 
@user908041 no, because then you have to allocate it on the free store
and that brings in a heap of problems
2
and the copy can be elided usually anyway
so return by value whenever you can
 
Hehe, nice pun.
 
@user908041 is Obj1 a base class or the full class?
 

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