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8:00 PM
@DeadMG .second?
 
@classdaknok_t insert returns a pair where the second value is a bool- true means "Value inserted" and false means "Value was already in set".
 
insert returns a pair.
 
Mevernind.
 
but set.find(T) just returned end(), so I'm not entirely sure WTF is going on
 
Your compiler, which is MSVC, sucks.
 
8:01 PM
well, there are other bugs in their libraries when you use std::tuple as the type
 
You have a race condition.
 
@classdaknok_t One thread.
 
You won the race condition.
 
plus it's a function-local variable, so
 
You have a race condition with one thread. Congratulations.
 
8:02 PM
the debugger also says the value is in the set
 
Buy a new standard library implementation.
 
Report the bug.
 
Post a self-contained example.
 
(Harhar, right.)
 
well I think I'mma gonna have to try and cut down my octree code and this code and post on SO see if anyone comes up with anything smarter
@StackedCrooked Problem: the pathfinding function depends on the octree and other components as well. Not trivial to cut it all away, but I have no choice right now
 
8:09 PM
Good. We'll be waiting.
 
Be sure to repwhore post a hyperlink to it here!
 
Here's some music to fight the boredom.
 
Vrolijke muziek.
 
Dutch!
 
If you ain't Dutch, you ain't much!
 
8:16 PM
@classdaknok_t oy, bihatch]
 
As a finishing touch, God created the Dutch. Okay I'm out of jokes.
Oh wait that wasn't a joke (except for the "God" part).
 
Relative to the size of the universe I ain't much.
I'm even smaller than Pluto.
 
that reminds me
 
I'm smaller than Belgium.
 
must improve octree
 
8:18 PM
by making it a hextree!
 
@classdaknok_t Really? Belgium is a really small country though.
 
Yeah, it's even smaller than the Netherlands.
If a country is smaller than Russia, it's really small.
 
Belgium has less people than the city of Tokyo.
 
Vatican city (or however you call that?) has less people than the village in which I live.
We have 1500 people here.
 
@classdaknok_t Vatican City.
 
8:21 PM
Heck, the village in which I live has less people than my high school has students. ö
 
Tokyo has 13M citizens. If seismologists were to detect that a natural disaster is going to come over Tokyo in the next few weeks then they're pretty much fucked.
You can't evacuate 13M people.
 
Ell
you can with magic
 
They'd be more fucked if they don't pre detect the earthquake.
 
I guess so.
It would be bad if they only noticed after the damage was done :)
 
À la Sri Lanka.
 
Ell
8:23 PM
they have bianual earthquake drills don't they?
 
Dunno.
 
Earthquakes are fun, as long as they don't break my computer.
And my secondary monitor, which I need to chat here.
 
Good programmers realize that Haskell is imperative.
Silly play on words.
 
Haskell is very imperative. Imagine a world without Haskell.
 
btw
 
8:27 PM
And it's not about "good programmers" but rather "people who know their dictionary".
 
how "short" does an SSCCE actually have to be?
 
my octree's minimal reproducing code is still gonna be hundreds of lines
 
Nobody's gonna debug hundreds of lines for you.
 
@CatPlusPlus This ain't a TV series.
 
8:27 PM
@CatPlusPlus What I figured.
 
@DeadMG post the compiled version, it's shorter. Then tag it .
 
Post the diff where the bug is.
 
@StackedCrooked So that's why everything is so boring.
 
@StackedCrooked It's always manifested.
 
@CatPlusPlus Yes, I apologize.
:D
 
8:29 PM
@DeadMG So it's a transcendent bug.
 
what's that?
 
An überbug.
 
an über annoying bug
 
Ell
what is the worst way to die?
 
8:31 PM
@Ell drowning.
 
Ell
sorry thats completely off topic nevermind :L
 
The only things that are off topic here, are things related to C++.
 
Ell
the worst way to die is off topic :L
 
@Ell Worst means sausage in Dutch.
 
@Ell Writing PHP all week.
Also spiders.
 
8:32 PM
@StackCrooked ROOKWORST!!
 
Ell
actually - what is the most painless way to die?
 
Being eaten by a cat also seems to be horrible. 3:
 
The anime Berzerk there is a person that ends up being tortured for over a year while intentionally being kept alive. I think that's pretty bad.
 
Nuclear explosion.
 
Ell
yeah :/
dying in your sleep is entirely painless, no?
 
8:33 PM
@Ell hit by a train with infinite anestesia.
 
Hit by a train with infinite velocity.
 
Being splat must be painful too, like in Saw VI.
 
Yes, I'm sure Saw is scientifically accurate.
 
A saw can really cut.
 
I saw Saw sawing a sawing saw.
 
Ell
8:35 PM
death by cheese grater must hurt
 
The most painless way to die is any death were you aren't aware of it, naturally.
 
"No matching function for call to 'forward'" when I explicitly call std::forward is not an nice error message.
 
Yummy cheese.
 
Ell
hanging is supposed to be painful isn't it?
 
Or where your brain doesn't manage to register anything.
 
Ell
8:36 PM
but I think decapitation must be painless, the worst part is waiting for it
 
Surgery without anestesia is said to be very painful.
 
Ell
:O
 
You don't say?
 
I do.
 
Ell
has anyone read about that suicide forest on Mt Fuji?
 
8:37 PM
But it's for the die hards.
 
I often do bitwise operations without painkillers.
 
The masochists.
 
The machinists.
 
The magicians.
 
Also short burst of pain is probably not too much of a concern, either. We should chart suckiness of death in function of time and pain.
Also INTERNET Y U BREAKING DOWN.
 
Ell
8:38 PM
I can't decide if killing yourself is brave or cowardly; on one hand you are running away from troubles, on the other hand you have no idea if there is an afterlife
 
@CatPlusPlus Karma's a bitch.
 
Dying of starvation is quite unpleasant.
 
@Ell anyway, it's not nice to family members and friends.
 
Anything prolonged would be.
 
Ell
@classdaknokt yeah its not :/
 
8:39 PM
@CatPlusPlus Like dying from old age?
 
Ell
especially since they have spent their life raising you
 
Yeah, that one sucks.
 
It's not the most prestigious way to die.
 
Vacuum cleaners suck.
 
Ell
killing oneself?
 
8:41 PM
Kill You — Eminem
Almost half of all songs I have are about death. xD
 
And the other half?
 
Ell
Life? :L
 
Yin - Yang
 
Sex.
Obviously.
 
Songs about sex?
 
8:42 PM
Most of 'em.
 
Beer, vodka, life, pain, hate, misery, hell, love.
 
Ell
man
yesterday was my prom
at the after prom party
 
I read "porn".
 
We all did.
 
Ell
every single person except me drank alcahol
and now i just feel like shit - what the hell does being responsible do for you?
 
8:43 PM
Alcohol is good for your brain.
 
In Belgium legal drinking age is 16. So it would have been served at the party.
 
I didn't drink on prom either.
 
Ell
besides making you look like a douche in front of everyone? seriously I feel completely inferior to those less sensible than me
its 18 in the uk >.< im 16
 
It was bloody boring.
 
@CatPlusPlus There's proms in Poland?
 
8:44 PM
@Ell if you don't like it, don't drink it. Don't let others make you think stupid.
 
Studniówka is a traditional ball for final grade high school (liceum or technikum) students (i.e. aged 18–20) in Poland, analogous to senior prom in the United States. It is held approximately a hundred days before the matura, or leaving exam; hence its name, which is a Polish noun formed from the adjective studniowy, meaning "hundred-day" (compare sto dni, "a hundred days"). The ball is usually organized by parents who also pay most of the costs. The choice of venue depends mostly on the funds – it may be the school gym, but also an expensive hotel, or even a palace or castle....
 
We don't have anything like that.
 
It's boring.
 
My daddy, granny and grandfather are from Poland!
 
Ell
I will always feel inferior to most people :L
 
8:45 PM
And you have to pay for it.
 
Ell
our prom was pretty good
 
Paying. To. Be. Bored. To. Death.
 
Ell
apart from seeing my ex with her boyfriend
actually that sucked a lot
god I'm so depressed >.< lols :P
 
And you wonder why's everyone drunk afterwards.
 
Bring him down.
 
8:46 PM
It was pretty funny to see some teachers barely walking at 3AM though.
 
@Ell It's nice to have certainties in life :)
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus I wish I could say that. But my mum is a teacher so she only ended up embarrasing me
the only certainty I look forward to is death :L
 
Wow, that's dark.
 
That doesn't sound too good.
 
Being embarrassed (spelt right on third attempt) is overrated.
Tip: nobody really cares.
Especially if you can laugh at yourself.
 
Ell
8:47 PM
yeah tbh that doesnt bother me
i do laugh at myself - i dont mind being embarrased
 
@Ell there is a Dutch saying: "Heb schijt aan de wereld en doe waar je zin in hebt."
 
Yes, that says a lot.
 
If I register another person's embarrassment I go through a mental checklist to see if something similar could happen to me. If yes, then I try to remedy that :)
 
Ell
@classdaknokt I don't speak dutch, what does that say?
 
"We like to put vowels next to each other."
 
8:49 PM
@classdaknok_t Really. That's news for me. I think it defines the subculture you found that 'saying' in :)
 
@Ell shit on the world; do whatever you want.
 
We have an unspoken law that goes like this: .
 
@classdaknok_t That's a really really mild translation
 
Shit on the world and do it where your lust is.
 
8:50 PM
"Don't give a shit about the world and just do whatever you feel like doing" - comes close
 
Ell
@classdaknokt I wish I could follow that principle :L but I don't have the balls
 
@StackedCrooked Sounds awkward
 
I guess some of it got lost in translation.
 
@sehe that subculture is de straat. :P
 
@classdaknok_t I don't live there :P
 
Ell
8:51 PM
Seriously I wish I could just not care :L
 
Me neither, but my Maroccan classmates do.
Partially.
 
Your 'homeys'
 
I like how you changed 'friends' to 'classmates'.
 
Not really. :P
 
@CatPlusPlus I see. I didn't notice yet.
 
8:52 PM
In C (not C++) can I define constant globals just inside a header file?
Right now I have:
Header: extern const float blockSize;
Impl: const float blockSize = 64;
 
@classdaknok_t So "observing street culture". I'd venture that it is, therefore, not a general Dutch saying.
 
@sehe not really, but me and my friends say it all the time. And about half of all Dutch young people. :P
 
@Nils as long as you don't include the header in more than one TU...
 
And rappers:
 
@classdaknok_t Define young. I'm not that old :)
 
8:53 PM
17
 
I must be in the other half
 
@sehe Well I want my constants to be accessible everywhere of course..
 
Ell
Ugh I don't like eminem
 
Oh you mean "pubers"
(that's adolescents)
 
And adolescenten, which is between 17 and 21(?).
 
8:54 PM
namespace { const float blockSize = 64; }
 
yeah that's C++
 
@Nils Zing
 
If it doesn't get internal linkage by default. Integral constants do, dunno about floats.
Ah, C. We don't care about C.
5
 
@StackedCrooked You missed 22 significant letters
 
8:56 PM
hahaha
 
C makes me puke dogshit.
 
it is a std::tuple related bug
swapped it out for a custom struct and it seems to be working a lot better now
 
So I was right. Hooray.
 
@DeadMG but who owns the bug
 
It's a leaky bug.
 
8:57 PM
@sehe a raw pointer.
 
It's rented.
 
humm
 
@StackedCrooked leaky is not the opposite of owned.
 
@StackedCrooked who is rented?
 
8:57 PM
And, I didn't ask who got owned.
That's painfully clear
 
The only one who owns is me.
 
@classdaknok_t The bug is.
 
oh, wait, I managed to get one more successful iteration, and then it manifests again
 
I own.
 
Like a proper capitalist.
 
8:58 PM
@DeadMG Hey, at least you made progress.
 
true true
 
@DeadMG ... I say: UB? It changes appearance when class/code layout changes
 
@sehe Yeah, I figured UB a while ago.
 
@CatPlusPlus That would be "I Own"
 
the problem is that I can't find it
 
8:58 PM
1 min ago, by class daknok_t
The only one who owns is me.
 
Well, perhaps in your world.
 
@DeadMG I'd suggest valgrind, but I recall you don't seem to like linux. So, shell out the money for Purify or similar?
@StackedCrooked All other worlds seem rather irrelevant
 
Yeah, I'm immediately reach for valgrind.
 

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