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9:00 PM
So, this user pops into the room, and flags fire up. And there's this suspicious comment stackoverflow.com/questions/9861197/infinite-recursion-c/….
And I've seen two more similar comments today, but the posts have been deleted since.
 
Ell
haha lols
 
Oh, you mean the 80-rep one.
I was confused for a second.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I'm baffled. I can't see the motives there, at all. Perhaps we could cue in a mod?
 
@sehe Sounds to me like something just trying to cause trouble.
For whatever reason.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Ah well. These critters must exist too. I think I'll let them be
 
9:03 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes Nothing suspicious. That guy just arrived and wanted to game the system on multiple occasions to get a badge
Peer Pressure, I think
He seems to have struck one lucky answer (which isn't actually very good, but it was That Kind of a Question), but he's posted a few others, some of which got deleted.
 
Sigh, people actively try to get the Peer Pressure badge?
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Q: Can the dollar sign be someone referred to c++ pointers?

Jeff PigarelliToday I saw a post on php.net that I'm quoting here: $Bar = "a"; $Foo = "Bar"; $World = "Foo"; $Hello = "World"; $a = "Hello"; $a; //Returns Hello $$a; //Returns World $$$a; //Returns Foo $$$$a; //Returns Bar $$$$$a; //Returns a $$$$$$a; //Returns Hello $$$$$$$a; //Returns World Since PHP de...

Ewww, one can do this in PHP?
 
Why not? :)
 
Well, since it has eval I guess it's not that big a deal.
But it doesn't quite click with me.
 
I once got the badge, was startled by it. Made me want to go back and undelete the answer on principle.
In the end, I think I kept it deleted since I honestly thought I had misread the question. Not peer pressure.
 
@sehe You can't ungain badges, so undeleting wouldn't help.
@ScottW Deleted an answer of yours with -3 or less score.
 
9:13 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes Interpreted languages have lexical scopes and 'concrete' access to symbol tables like that. Perl has the same thing advertised as Symbol Tables and Typeglobs
@ScottW I'm on it
@RMartinhoFernandes Except avoiding the appearance of succumbing to peer pressure. Well, not that anyone would care to look beyond the badge of course
 
Eventually as you post more and more you will get some downvote somewhere. But a -3 score answer does not happen because of a sporadic downvote.
@sehe No! Why did you have to mention typeglobs!
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Because they're related evil ?
 
@sehe It just struck me how eval and evil are similar.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes better late than...
I don't remember where I saw that pun made at lenght (ad nauseam) but I think it was on TDWTF or something like that
 
9:29 PM
What's typeglob?
 
Crazy Perl crap.
 
All of Perl is.
So that doesn't narrow it down.
 
Hacking around with typeglobs used to be the only way to get nested data structures.
Because Perl automatically flattens lists as a "feature".
 
@RMartinhoFernandes or filehandles into named variables
 
I can't possibly fathom why Larry thought auto-flattening was a good idea.
 
9:41 PM
Or magic variables. Or sigils.
 
Finally got those keyboard accelerators fixed in Windows 7. It involved a hook and a hidden message window. Why keep an API simple when it can be made into a difficult puzzle, so that even Microsoft's own programs such as Notepad don't manage to provide the functionality?
 
What did you fix?
 
You don't like puzzles?
 
That accelerators don't work the place where you can see what they are (like [Ctrl O]), namely in menus.
 
If you are in menu, why'd you use an accelerator?
When you can press one letter instead of reaching for Ctrl.
 
9:50 PM
@CatPlusPlus Well, it's easier to memorize one accelerator than one accelerator plus one shortcut key. And also, not all menu items that have accelerators have shortcut keys. After all, it's a bit redundant, and shortcuts need to be unique and occurring somewhere in the menu item's text.
For example, it's difficult to arrange for F1 to be part of the text for the "help" menu item.
 
Dunno, I only remember CUA shortcuts.
 
@CatPlusPlus F1 is part of CUA.
Also [Alt F4].
 
I don't use F1.
 
Then you're not using Windows.
 
Wut.
Also, I'm trying to run JavaME emulator and it crashes like crazy.
 
9:53 PM
Why are you trying that?
 
Well, we've finished one silly thing on the embedded systems course, and started another.
 
I think it'll be easier to just copy the damn app on the phone every time.
 
And what if it blows the phone?
 
It's amazing how much you can fuck up something as simple as phone emulator.
It can't blow the phone.
Besides, I'm writing it, eh.
 
9:56 PM
PhoneFactory.getInstance().createDefaultPhone().blow()?
 
Ah, I've an idea.
It might be DEP.
Unity was crashing on startup because of it too.
Don't you love security features that cause stupid applications to crash.
 
They don't put generated code into executable pages?
That's retarded.
 
Well, I know that.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I debugged someone's Spirit problem. Again. Hopefully for one or two upvotes :)
 
Well, it also might be that JavaME was abandoned enough time ago to not cope with Windows 7.
Nope, not DErP.
 
10:00 PM
Just general crappyness then.
 
Well, Google seems to think it is, so maybe I should restart or something.
"Your computer's processor supports hardware-based derp."
> Please use 32-bit version of JDK.
Good grief.
It is ancient.
WHY IS THERE MORE THAN ONE COPY OF THIS EXECUTABLE.
OMG IT WORKS.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes was that you? (I bet you upvoted that; the OP was last seen 3 hours ago)
 
@CatPlusPlus Your Shift key is broken.
 
Oh, lols, the OP even doesn't have enough rep to upvote me :)
 
@sehe Yep. I actually understood most of the answer on this one :)
 
10:05 PM
My mind is broken.
 
@sehe I think upvotes on your own questions are always possible.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes You're getting there :) Spirit is kind of a special art. Has little to do with C++, in a sense. Of course, that's what you'd expect for building 'EDSL's ...
 
good evening fellas
 
Good evening @TonyTheLion
 
Every time I read a Spirit question I feel less and less inclined to try it.
 
10:07 PM
what's herpity derp?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I have the same problem with e.g. Boost Meta State Machine.
 
You can say I'm spoiled by the real deal in Haskell.
 
@TonyTheLion: CatPlusPlus was referring to Data Execution Protection
 
yea I know
but I was saying "derp"
something different
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Indeed. Way better. Even Factor has way better parsing expressions
 
10:07 PM
Damn, I want to watch the MLG matches, but I get a "no stream" message. This sucks.
 
@TonyTheLion The Cat said DErP too.
 
@TonyTheLion Major League Gaming.
Specifically, the StarCraft 2 matches.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes since when does it matter what the cat said? I'm the LION here!
@EtiennedeMartel oh I see
 
@RMartinhoFernandes It still is a nice niche to know _when_ you get over the critical mass threshold.
A bit like, vim proficiency. But with a higher barrier to entrance, IMO
Nah, not to entrance, that wouldn't work. Something more to do with 'critical mass' of knowledge I feel
 
10:09 PM
I'd rather use Haskell. I recently found the LLVM bindings.
 
Haskell has LLVM bindings?
 
The asm generation code almost reads like LLVM IR.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes To use LLVM from Haskell (emit parsers?) or to compile Haskell to bitcode?
 
@sehe First one.
(But GHC ships an LLVM backend too)
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Really? Consider me hooked. It'll be my 2012 language to learn.
 
10:11 PM
> But if you do use C++ just for function overloading, make sure you don't ask any questions here (you'll get flamed for not using the standard template library). – James McLaughlin ↵ 12 secs ago
 
Since LLVM IR is SSA, it matches perfectly with the do-notation.
 
Lol look at his profile.
 
Lol
 
10:12 PM
> I hate the C++ police with a fiery vengeance. There is nothing wrong with "C with classes". STL/boost are not suited to every project, and if you disagree go tell that to the Android developers.
 
@CatPlusPlus I wonder if he's related to the famous guitar player.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Had to google Static single assignment form
 
> There is nothing wrong with "C with classes".
 
I fail to see Android relevance.
 
I think we should gank that guy.
 
10:13 PM
gank?
 
Do I want to know what "gank" means?
It's a gaming term, right?
 
Probably not.
 
You guys never played MMORPGs, right?
 
:)
 
My brother keeps saying that when he's playing LOL.
 
It's when a bunch of high level players ambush a low level player just for fun, giggles and teabagging.
 
It's just amusing.
 
I don't want another silly argument where the other side is pretending to not hear you.
"Lalala I know nothing about C++ but Android something something".
 
10:15 PM
Perhaps we could invite this gentleman here.
 
Pointless and tiring.
 
And then proceed to reeducate him.
 
Good luck with that.
 
I would love him to explain to me why there's nothing wrong with "C with classes" with respect to modern C++
 
I think it's been tried with others in the past, if they're unwilling to change their views, it's impossible to make them
 
10:16 PM
@Insilico Resistance to change will do that to you.
 
They're just stupid and I don't want to ever work with people like them.
 
they just have fixed ideas
that they're unwilling to change
 
And why the fuck is my "metapenises" thing still in the sidebar?
3
 
because it's funny
 
@CatPlusPlus Which is cool, because they're just as averse to code that doesn't <insert stupid crash reason from the 80s here> at every turn as you are to code that does.
 
10:17 PM
Now it'll be there for two weeks.
 
Now there's two metapenises in the side bar
 
Mwahaha.
 
This better be added to the Golden Words.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I saved you.
 
10:18 PM
Oi.
 
Otherwise I'll be upset.
 
Question: how do you hate something/someone with a vengeance?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes: Perhaps he's somehow bitten by it in the past
 
Excellent question.
 
I assume that's what "vengeance" means in this context
 
10:20 PM
If there was a SE for metaphorical questions, I would upvote and fav yours.
 
Must be US thing.
 
Some googling shows it is indeed an idiom.
 
I always thought it's "hating with passion".
 
It makes no sense if translated straight to my native tongue.
 
I think metapenises expire in only 14 days. Meta viagra to go with that, I guess.
 
10:20 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes: Lots of things don't make sense when doing a straight translation
"tengo hambre" in Spanish literally means "I have hunger" which isn't correct English
 
> with a vengeance. 1. : with great force or vehemence
 
Wrong meaning.
 
so hate with a vengeance, is hating with great intensity or force
 
@Insilico "I hav hunger" make more sense
@TonyTheLion For Great Justice!!!
 
> to an extreme or excessive degree
is another meaning, which could fit too
 
10:22 PM
I think "excessive" definitely fits here
 
So, are we the C++ police?
 
Somebody set us up a C++.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I hate everyone who is carrying large quantities of vengeance. I think they pollute the street view and obstruct my path. So, whenever I bump into someone with a vengeance, I hate him
 
@CatPlusPlus Move Zig
 
10:23 PM
@Insilico Sure, I was just trying to explain why I asked about it.
 
@CatPlusPlus Zero wing?
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Home of the C++ police. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
@RMartinhoFernandes You don't have to explain yourself. It is English after all. :-P
 
Relevant.
So, what, do we bash those who do C with Classes?
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Home of the C++ police and metapenises. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
10:24 PM
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: HQ of the C++ police. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I had to reload the page to see that title change
strange
 
@CatPlusPlus Race condition!
 
That was faaaast.
 
(not really)
 
@EtiennedeMartel yeah, when we're done bashing C++ without classes
 
10:25 PM
C++ without classes is like precalculus. In the same way that precalculus is calculus without the calculus.
 
@sehe You mean C99++?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes If I did that, we'd have meta police policing our C++ police.
 
We have a 10-34, please send all units to Lounge<C++>
 
For metapenises. Makes kind of a sense.
 
10:25 PM
lol
 
Don't those guys have any sense of humor?
 
@TonyTheLion all units
FTFY ^^
 
One cannot enter Lounge with any sense of humour.
 
@TonyTheLion -24?
 
10:26 PM
lol
 
@EtiennedeMartel I don't know the US police codes for crimes
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, but the meta police stays outside, judging us from the sidelines, and spiting us by deleting great C++ questions.
 
@EtiennedeMartel reverse it, you see The Answer
 
Metapenises is 44-69.
 
@EtiennedeMartel It's code for riot.
 
10:27 PM
Ten-codes, also known as ten signals, are code words used to represent common phrases in voice communication, particularly by law enforcement and in Citizens' Band (CB) radio transmissions. The codes, developed in 1937 and expanded in 1974 by the Association of Public-Safety Communications Officials-International (APCO), allow for brevity and standardization of message traffic. They have historically been widely used by law enforcement officers in North America but due to the lack of standardization, in 2006 the U.S. federal government recommended they be discontinued in favor of everyda...
 
As a student, I know about riots.
 
@EtiennedeMartel The book question is not a random question
@EtiennedeMartel That makes sense, because?
 
@sehe Fixed.
 
@CatPlusPlus why 44?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes So you'd ask.
 
10:27 PM
Well done.
 
Le peuple uni, jamais ne sera vaincu. I'm too lazy to translate that.
 
The people, united, never will be defeated (thanks crowd-source BabelFish)
 
Oh, we have that too.
 
Something about Jamaica.
 
10:28 PM
I'm too fast.
 
@Insilico Better ^
 
Damn, Google is good.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Amen?
 
My mother speaks fluent French but isn't available right at this moment
so Google Translate will have to do.
 
Nunc Id Vides, Nunc Ne Vides.
 
10:29 PM
I would have done a "your mother" joke, but I don't want to die inside.
 
It makes for a better slogan.
@EtiennedeMartel Too late.
 
@CatPlusPlus Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.
 
morning
 
@EtiennedeMartel +1
 
@CatPlusPlus google translate gives me strange stuff trying to translate that
 
10:30 PM
It's actually a reference.
 
@CatPlusPlus UU!
 
Tamquam sint sub aqua, sub aqua maledicere temptant
 
@TonyTheLion Now you see it, now you don't.
 
And robot gets a medal.
 
@CatPlusPlus const or non-const ?
 
10:31 PM
It's the Unseen University motto.
 
For fuck's sake, this is Lounge<C++> not Lounge<Latin>
 
@CatPlusPlus I thought that was too trivial
@Insilico Embedded domain sepecific language
 
I don't think it's Latin.
 
@Insilico this is Lounge<ALL THE THINGS>
 
And why the hell is it raining during my spring break
 
10:32 PM
@CatPlusPlus It's Latin1 alright
@Insilico Because you don't have a parade to rain on?
 
No, it's UTF-8.
 
@TonyTheLion More like Lounge<ALL THE THINGS (especially C++)>
 
@CatPlusPlus WTF-16
 
That one's implemented in Windows.
 
@EtiennedeMartel: More like Lounge<ALL_THE_THINGS_BUT_RARELY_C++>
 
10:33 PM
@EtiennedeMartel FUCK YEA
 
"Yeq" sounds almost better than "yea".
 
WD-40 is the trademark name of a United States-made water-displacing spray. It was developed in 1953 by Norm Larsen, founder of the Rocket Chemical Company, San Diego, California. It was originally designed to repel water and prevent corrosion, and later was found to have numerous household uses. WD-40 stands for "Water Displacement â€“ 40th Attempt". Larsen was attempting to create a formula to prevent corrosion in nuclear missiles, by displacing the standing water that causes it. He claims he arrived at a successful formula on his 40th attempt. WD-40 is primarily composed of v...
 
False.
 
10:34 PM
Not supported.
 
File not found.
 
On that note, I leave you. Good night
E_NOSPACE
 
Here, take this one: ' '
 
@CatPlusPlus On Error Resume Next much?
 
@sehe Not sure what WD-40 has to do with whatever was going on in this chat room
 
10:35 PM
No. No. No.
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There we go, room's broken.
 
@Insilico ALL THE THINGS. Also, random ping-pong sequences of ALPHA-num combinations and various other nonsense.
 
Everyone is babbling incoherently.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes We're not
 
10:37 PM
QWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBNM
 
> not the room you are looking for?
 
@Insilico Stop the latin, already
 
Lounge<C++> will be renamed in two weeks to Lounge<Everything_But_C++>
 
10:37 PM
I'm incredibly coherent.
 
I'm incredibly in-
coherent
 
> i said THEY TAKIN` THE HOBBITS TO ISENGARD
 
Now, that's thread synchronization + multiple personality disorder. The active personality doesn't unblock so the shutdown sequence is delayed.
I _will_ find my bed. Somewhere. Some day
 
Lol that thing.
 
10:39 PM
@sehe: Every place is a bed
 
I'm credibly incoherent
FTFY
 
some are just more comfortable than others
 
@Insilico And some are even mine
 
@RMartinhoFernandes not again
 
10:39 PM
Yes.
 
I think the thumbnail of that should have been Aragorn's stupid face.
 
Also: when I saw your thumbnail, that was the first thing that came to my mind, too.
 
Internet is breaking minds.
 
@Insilico Oh my, how low can one go.
 
10:43 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes At one point, you have to pay the rent.
 
It's one of those things that makes more sense when you're not sober
Like all of politics
And half the stuff that goes on in Lounge<C++>
 
Or Perl.
 
Nah, Perl is what you get when you're on crack.
That can be the only explanation for ozonehouse.com/mark/periodic
 
iffy diffy
Okay, sleep.
Bye.
 
Good night
 
10:46 PM
Kay.
Sleep tight.
 
"-10
User was removed"
That's one thing. That one loses reputation due to user's being kicked off SO. But who is it that thinks my question is worth downvoting -- it's good question, isn't it?
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Q: Should `unique_ptr< T const [] >` accept a `T*` constructor argument?

Cheers and hth. - AlfCode: #include <memory> using namespace std; struct T {}; T* foo() { return new T; } T const* bar() { return foo(); } int main() { unique_ptr< T const > p1( bar() ); // OK unique_ptr< T const [] > a1( bar() ); // OK unique_ptr< T const ...

 
Seems like a good question to me
 
11:10 PM
not sure I ever want to go there anymore. What's life without porn? :P
 
They did a revolution, and end up without porn?
 
I know right
 
Damn, they got serious issues.
 
sounds so wrong
what are all these men in desperate need of releasing their jizz gonna do?
when there's no porn
 
They're going to require the ancient power of imagination.
 
11:13 PM
oh, that sucks
 
There's always women, you know.
 
That as well.
 
Just sayin'.
 
11:25 PM
lol
 
my head
it hurts me
 
Apparently Wolfram|Alpha's "Sign up to get copyable plaintext" thing doesn't work in IE
 
eh, I don't really see the point
you could just make a screenshot
 
I know they got to make money and all but making people sign up for something like copying plaintext is asinine
 
obviously they're desperate
 
11:40 PM
$4.99 per month for Wolfram|Alpha Pro
Why not just get Mathematica Home Edition or something?
 
@Insilico Isn't that a lot of months?
At 295 EUR for the hobbyist edition (i.e. not a student) that's a bit short of 80 months of WA Pro.
 
@LucDanton: I calculate to about 60 months --> 5 years (it's $295 here in the States)
But Mathematica doesn't require an internet connection for a lot of its functionality
while Wolfram|Alpha requires it for its existence
 
11:55 PM
@Insilico I'll trade you 1000 of my USD for 1000 of your EUR, deal? (And also a webpage that uses geolocation.)
 
Ah, it's the famous atlantic exchange rate in action.
 
@LucDanton: I don't have 1000 EUR on hand right now. :-)
But honestly I'd rather get Mathematica Home Edition simply because it doesn't require an internet connection for most tasks
@LucDanton: Is it really 295 EUR over there?
That's... and odd conversion (or lack thereof)
 
Well, apparently that's without VAT. So no, more than that. (As it's customary to account for taxes.)
 
How much would it be with a VAT right now?
 

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