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8:00 AM
I just got the email "Your e-mail ID has won you £1,000.000.00 Pounds"
 
dammit, it's twice as much as I won... you are lucky...
 
lol
 
MSVC update screwed up my Windows SDK installation...
 
morning
 
8:02 AM
but, on a bright side, I wanted to reinstall the system anyway... morning
 
Preprocessed TU is 8MB large.
 
robot, did I tell you about the glories of the exam I did yesterday?
 
@CatPlusPlus You just don't care anymore do you? You just trod on without even considering what is happening around you because you don't want to believe that it is actually happening.
@DeadMG No.
What happened?
 
the whole exam couldn't be answered without reference-manual level knowledge of two specific processors
 
8:05 AM
one of the questions was literally "Detail the hardware and software interface of the 8051".
 
Oh, hey, it's the debug symbols.
 
oops , you will get passed, right?
 
Without them, assembly is just 20MB large.
 
and I'm like, "Fuck no"
 
8:05 AM
@DeadMG Ow.
 
I wrote about the six lines that could be reasonably inferred and then walked out
 
And still doesn't assemble.
So how to stop compiler from emitting so many sections.
 
and on Monday, I have "Construct LR tables by hand"
 
In our Computer Architectures exam we were given full instruction set listings for both x86 and MIPS (what we studied) and other reference stuff I don't remember now.
 
I'm gonna go talk to the admin guy
and tell him in no uncertain terms exactly how insane they are
 
8:07 AM
Exams without any kind of references only make sense for stuff like Logic.
 
hell, I'd argue even they need a reference for "downwards arrow means and, upwards arrow means or"
 
And it compiles with -O.
Good grief, can't I have debug build with this thing?
 
personally
 
And even then... For both Logic exams I passed we were allowed to bring anything we wanted to use as reference.
 
I would say that if having a computer in the exam gives you an advantage, you're doing the exam wrong
yeah
but in any case
many of my other exams have been "Did you memorize the reference?" questions but nothing so explicit and complete as this
 
8:10 AM
So, you're not expecting to pass?
 
I wrote about 6 lines where about 100-200 would have been expected
 
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Q: How to get rid of any virus 100% (for a job)

user1188902Well on oDesk they have a job for virus removal 30$ an hour and its a trusted person to so wont get scammed. Anyone please tell me how to remove them completely and get them out? Please help me I really need the money to. I will also try n give the best answer 15$ (half of first hour money) throu...

 
I'll be lucky to get a few percent
 
Ok. Ow.
@CatPlusPlus I commented.
 
8:12 AM
I voted to delete
 
But then no one will fall into my TV Tropes trap!
 
That Q is just a joke or was he asking for help in real?
 
dammit, you, guys, are a vicious pack...
 
Damn, that was fast.
 
lol
by the way
I've been thinking that aliasing might solve my ABI problem
I will dictate completely the implementation of virtually all non-platform-specific Standard components
and then if you want to use something else, you can just swap out a reference or two
 
8:14 AM
Those assembly files have over 2M LOC.
 
that's not really relevant for assembly
 
@CatPlusPlus M?
 
Anyone willing to help me code something? :)
 
As in, millions?
 
Yes.
Seven digits.
 
8:15 AM
@renatofernandes is it the ilist again?
 
@DeadMG Sounds like a plan.
 
and for the other components
I will use inheritance
 
@AzzA sadly yes, my code works but they dont want my to use idelete in my function, cause im getting a cpu exceeded error
 
Sounds like my precious codebase is uncompilable in unoptimised mode.
 
Just take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
 
8:17 AM
At least with g++.
 
Ahhh, my screen real estate.
 
Post code on ideone.
 
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@CatPlusPlus ohh sorry i will
 
anyways
more specifications to writeses
 
8:22 AM
so basically this code ideone.com/kqh7J, im not suppose to make a temporary list and basically not use idelete
i dunno how to do without making a temp list :(
 
hey can I talk political opinion here ?
 
> Users are in the chat to, um, chat, and that includes the outcome of the standardization process as well as cooking, puppies, memes, sex, drugs, and, er, rock'n'roll. And anything in between. (It's called Lounge for a reason.) Specifically, nobody in the chat feels any obligation to answer questions.
 
renato
 
8:30 AM
hey
I just want to say one thing that I don't understand how's ppl not getting
 
@jsoldi do you have a blog?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes yea i understand nowone is obligated too ... just asking incase somewone can help me
 
@renatofernandes Oh, that wasn't for you.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes ohh my bad lol
 
8:33 AM
-1
A: Dynamic array C++

BicycleDudeYour code doesn't make sense. If it was worded the following, it may make more sense: complex**in = new complex* [line]; for (int i = 0; i < line; i ++ ) { in[i] = new complex[8]; } But, I still have no idea what the intent of this code.

@jsoldi GTFO.
 
uh, the people in this channel are from about eight different countries
 
@jsoldi yep, you are the chosen one. then gtfo.
 
and none of us are American
also, political discussion != rant
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christ
will you just go away?
 
@renatofernandes who came up with all these names :iempty_huh() etc?...
 
8:37 AM
@AzzA student.cs.uwaterloo.ca/~cs136/assignments/a5 functions we suppose to use are from here
@AzzA So basically my profs came up with these names lol
 
because nobody here wants to talk to you
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No one fucking gives a damn about what you fucking think. The only thing people fucking want right now if for you to get the fuck out of here and shut the fuck up.
 
maybe because we're moving all your messages to the bin?
 
@renatofernandes I just glanced at the code... why do you even need ilist a; and ilist acc;? Can't you just use acc1 since you put both ils there? Just return acc1 after you done putting il2 there...
 
Guys, can you please validate one flag, so this fucker gets banned?
 
8:40 AM
I'm validating all of them
 
I've validated all so far
 
@AzzA i need ilist a because i need to save the whole list i have created so i can delete it.... and if i produced acc1 it would be the reverse appended list to the one in correct order
can't we just ignore him?
 
yes, it will, cause you'll get banned
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@renatofernandes oh, i see
 
@AzzA apparently i could do this without makin a temorary list, but i dunno how.. any suggestions/tips?
 
user457812
8:44 AM
Wow, guess you guys have a bad egg in here too. Tonight's certainly amusing.
 
@nil others in other rooms?
 
user457812
@awoodland Had one in the Android room, he just stormed off after insulting me though, so no real harm done.
 
user457812
@jsoldi I think you mean "guys"?
 
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user457812
Alright then, long as that's confirmed.
 
8:46 AM
we have: fuck off
 
So, there are 20 flags now, but not one of them with enough votes? ARRHGGh this system is so broken.
 
user457812
I'd totally help if I could.
 
Just ignore.
Troll who thinks "gay" is a terrible insult is not worth anyone's time.
 
Proxy gets around ignore feature?
 
well, look
between Pubby, Cat, me, martinho, and awoodland, that sould be enough to get him banned?
 
8:49 AM
6 flags AFAIR.
 
I can only flag, not approve
 
user457812
Tried asking anyone on meta to help?
 
"ignore this user (everywhere)" comes with a cool animation, go try it out.
Back to real problems. Will -O1 screw the code very much, or will it be bearable to debug?
 
GCC RVOs even at O0, I think
 
Not that I have any choice.
 
8:54 AM
@AzzA im going to sleep now, if you find any suggestions can you answer them on stackoverflow.com/questions/9136269/memory-using-lists-homework thanks for your time azza
 
the ballz?
 
@CatPlusPlus It's debuggable. Don't try it on higher levels though.
 
-O1 is enough to make it assemble.
 
huh
how can I answer a closed question?
 
You can't.
That's the point of being closed.
 
8:56 AM
Lol that guy has 42 flags against him in the queue.
 
> This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 3 hours 58 minutes.
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I'm missing him already :'(
 
Oh, it's cumulative?
 
The bans are cumulative?
Awesome.
 
Validated three.
 
It's up to 4:30
 
8:59 AM
Lol.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes A variadic type parameter pack name standing by itself somewhere in the code means anything? It's just a box which contains some type args, right?
 
@MrAnubis You can't leave packs by itself.
You always have to expand them.
It's a bit silly.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes but I was thinking to copy a content of one pack to another (though it's no real use)
 
No can do.
Must expand.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes But I just did on Programmers.
 
9:04 AM
@RMartinhoFernandes thanks for quick help
 
closed as not constructive by Mark Trapp♦ 34 mins ago
 
@DeadMG Ah, maybe you started answering while it was open?
 
answered 8 mins ago
I don't think s
 
Oh, well, you have magical powers?
 
that would be consistent with previous Theories of DeadMG™, yes
 
9:06 AM
I think I'm too angry today. Anyone wants to pick up in the comments here? stackoverflow.com/a/9139541/46642 I'm going for a walk.
 
Nope.
 
nah
that guy was being rather ridiculously silly and obtuse
 
sbi
9:23 AM
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@Xeo So you on twitter now?
@Xeo Welcome to the club!
@Xeo It's #SeaPlusPlus. Really.
@RMartinhoFernandes Others do, too. I think I have seen it from JaredPar, for example.
@Maxpm Is this your alter ego?
Oh, and good morning. Is anyone still awake after this nightly excess?
 
I'm awake
slightly intermittent wifi given 1500 nerds in 1 room
 
sbi
@awoodland Ah.
@awoodland Oops! Where are you?
 
yeah brit, but in Brussels
(for the weekend)
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Gosh! I'm so sorry, @awoodland!
 
9:27 AM
it took 3 hours to drive 10km because of the snow last night
 
sbi
@awoodland And what you're doing in Brussels sharing a Wifi with 1.5k of nerds?
 
sbi
@awoodland Oh, interesting. Did you go there on your own, or did your employer send you?
 
@sbi 50-50 really. The department sponsored a minibus to go there, but I'm not here on any official business
 
sbi
@awoodland So they're not sending you there, but they acknowledge and support your efforts. Sounds like a good company to work for.
 
9:32 AM
@sbi You know, you could look at his profile. Then you wouldn't think he was a Merkin, and you would know he is a research associate at Aberystwyth University (i.e. no company).
:P
 
@sbi it's a university and they have an "Open source computing" degree scheme so there's an angle
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Ah, but it's 10:30 on a Saturday morning, and after a week of being lucky I could get up shortly past 6am (rather than before), I just got up, still wonder what I'll have for breakfast, and also wonder whether to suggest to the friend of mine we go swimming today or tomorrow. IOW, I very much enjoy being lazy. :-}
LOL!
 
9:47 AM
The first two talks of GoingNative are ready for download. I've added all talks to our link collection.
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sbi
@FredOverflow Good idea!
 
@FredOverflow might be worth pinning
 
sbi
@awoodland Yeah. Did so.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I've heard D does that automatically. Sounds useful.
 
@FredOverflow And you can for over them.
In C++ you have to construct a piece of recursive template machinery.
 
9:53 AM
@RMartinhoFernandes So D has some kind of static for? :)
 
I guess you can say that, yeah.
 
@sbi I've grown somewhat tired of the Java bashing lately. Am I getting old?
 
@FredOverflow try bashing php
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Yeah, the fun of your most favorite bashing decreasing is a very certain sign for getting old.
 
I don't think we bash C++ enough. All we do is complain about syntax, don't we? Oh yeah, and the most vexing parse, but that's basically it. Wait, that is a syntax problem, lol :)
 
sbi
10:00 AM
@FredOverflow MVP is syntax.
LOL!
 
I always get that mixed up with The Most Vexing Arse.
 
I'm bashing C++ so hard, I'm inventing a replacement
 
@DeadMG replacement for bashing?
 
Lol, according to Windows explorer, I just copied Bjarne's keynote from "C++" to "C:\" which sounds somewhat degrading. I hope Bjarne doesn't mind :)
Nice, STL's talk has just been uploaded. That's 3 already!
 
sbi
If you are a European and think it's cold where you live, think again:
Those guys are warming up at -25°C.
 
10:07 AM
That's 'shopped.
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes No.
 
Just "No."? I can't come up with a silly rebuttal for that.
 
@Abyx yeah
 
Wait, you're writing a shell?
 
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A: Array and Rvalue

David Rodríguez - dribeasYou cannot get an rvalue of array type. Arrays can only be lvalues, and whenever they are used in an lvalue they decay to a pointer to the first element. int array[10]; int * p = array; // [1] The expression array in [1] is an lvalue of type int (&)[10] that gets converted to an rvalue of ...

 
10:08 AM
lol
 
i downvoted it a year ago
 
struct T { int array[10]; }; T{}.array!
 
so many errors in that answer. oh my gosh
 
flag it for deletion then
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes It's from spiegel.de. They are not known for publishing photoshopped stuff. Whenever they publish some amateur's video from Syria, Egypt, or wherever else, they accompany it with "we cannot assure that this is genuine material". The above pic wasn't accompanied with this. I suppose they just officially bought the pic from some news agency.
 
10:10 AM
it's common in some countries, like Switzerland, I think
they actually have a problem in Switzerland with people walking naked over the Alps in the freezing snow
 
You're not convincing me. I made up my mind.
It's in ROM.
 
@LucDanton or the c++11 perverted way alias<int[10]>{} !
why does anyone have a problem with naked ppl. isn't it wonderful to be naked
 
sbi
@DeadMG Yeah, the guys in the pic are said to be members of a "winter swimming club" in Divnogorsk in Siberia.
 
sounds lovely
I can't keep my fingers warm and I'm indoors fully clothed in the UK
 
it's quite common in Russia...
 
10:12 AM
@DeadMG put up heaters
 
sbi
I'm not sure they actually swim, though, because the Yenisei would have been frozen at -25°C.
 
@JohannesSchaublitb I already did that.
 
@JohannesSchaublitb Ask Appenzel Innerrhoden.
 
yesterday it took over ten hours for the heating to warm the house
 
10:13 AM
yup, they cut holes in the ice...
 
@sbi Maybe they filled it with alcohol?
 
sbi
@FredOverflow That would be a waste! The Yenisei is huge.
 
How about applying a Tauchsieder locally? :)
 
sbi
10:16 AM
@FredOverflow And did I mention that river is huge?
@AzzA Yeah, I remember seeing Germans swimming in the winter in TV when I was a kid.
@AzzA Doe sthe guy at the very end of the video say it feels like swimming in champaign? :D
 
Yeah yeah, those men might be swimming in ice water... but we compute prime numbers at compile-time!
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sbi
@FredOverflow Not half as healthy. Also, there's a woman. (Granted, she doesn't swim, though.)
 
@sbi I didn't pay close attention, but he was saying that they are going to celebrate New Year swimming there - "with a bottle of Champagne on ice"
 
sbi
@AzzA Ah, Ok. Thanks. Sadly, my Russian is non-existent.
 
:)
 
10:21 AM
@sbi I understand "Nastrovje" and "Mamutschka" :)
 
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A: Array and Rvalue

Johannes Schaub - litbI'm not sure what you refer to by "initialization/declaration" in this context. But rvalues of array type are not too uncommon. struct data { int array[10]; }; data f(); int main() { return f().array[0]; } Now f().array is an rvalue of array type and it will be converted to a pointer. Same f...

 
@FredOverflow "Na zdorov'e" and "mamochka"
 
sbi
@FredOverflow I didn't get much more.
 
i dont understand a word of what that chick utterates about
 
I'm eatin ice cream
 
10:23 AM
Do svidaniya.
Or something (Don't know spelling).
 
@AzzA Thanks :) Also, aren't programmers called "programmist" or something in Russian?
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb Going after a Necromancer badge?
 
Ha, Necro on meta. Boo.
 
sbi
Fear me, I'm a meta necromancer!
 
10:24 AM
@RMartinhoFernandes Just claim you're using a different transliteration than whoever is picking a bone with you.
 
@FredOverflow yup.. "programmist".. but it's common suffix : "communist", "separatist" etc
 
Is "Tetris" a Russian word?
 
@LucDanton Woot, I got it almost right.
 
Tetrist!
 
@FredOverflow No.
It's a mix of tetra and tennis.
 
10:25 AM
tetricles
 
partial tetris specialization
 
@FredOverflow nope, it's from "tetro"-something... it's not a Russian word and I don't think it's a word at all
 
1 min ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
It's a mix of tetra and tennis.
 
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. Marrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrtinho
 
Quoting yourself within a minute... is there a badge for it?
 
10:27 AM
sounds more like a mix of tetra and penis
 
tantra and penis
 
sbi
@AzzA If so, he'd have three a day. On quiet days.
 
:)
 
10:28 AM
56 secs ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Wut?
 
i'm getting a haircut today
but im not sure whether i wanna go into city now. so cold outside
 
@JohannesSchaublitb a scissor_cast from long to short?
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sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes "Wut" means "anger", in German, you know.
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb Looking at the few pictures I have seen, you mustn't not bother to get out into the cold if you plan to go to the same haircutter you have been before. He'd be overpaid even if he gave you €100 every time you go there.
 
10:30 AM
that banned user is now up to 7 days of auto chat bans!
 
I'm trying to figure out "mustn't not bother" construction...
 
I hope you don't get this the wrong way, but I think you should try to out-hair S. Meyer.
 
sbi
@AzzA Don't bother, I'm a native German.
 
But then "not" should've been in the very end, no? or a verb...
 
10:32 AM
@FredOverflow yes!
but really not too short
 
sbi
@LucDanton Mr. "Of course, my haircut calls into immediate question all statements I make."
 
from long long to int :)
like INTermediary ^^
 
mawning
 
sbi
@AzzA I messed up. It should have been "...mustn't bother...", and I don't know if even that is a valid English construct.
Oh, the lion roa^mawns. I'm so scared.
 
Like Debbie.
 
10:34 AM
@LucDanton "out-hair" is a great verb :)
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes No, she moans. That's different.
 
Well, my knowledge of German grammar is limited to Twain's "Whenever the literary German dives into a sentence, that is the last you are going to see of him till he emerges on the other side of his Atlantic with his verb in his mouth."... So that's why i said "a verb in the end...
 
Okay, I'm gonna watch Stroustrup's keynote now. See you guys later!
 
a link @FredOverflow ?
 
@FredOverflow I've noticed that for GoingNative they verbed keynote (as in, "Bjarne Stroustrup is keynoting the event"), so I decided to throw all caution to the wind and just play along.
 
ty, sir
 
verbification badifies language
 
sbi
> WELCOME TO THE HARD NIPPLE CLUB, GENTLEMEN. LET'S GET TO WORK. — Most-upvoted comment at this youtube video
 
@sbi I was really afraid that this would lead to That Weird Part of YouTube.
 
sbi
10:40 AM
@RMartinhoFernandes Well, it didn't. It lead to That Other Weird Part of Youtube.
 
@sbi It doesn't work just in Winnipeg.
 
sbi
@LucDanton I know. (I came there from a video where someone did that at -36°C in Northern Norway.) I was quoting from the video description, though.
 
I felt it was worth pointing before people booked travels to Winnipeg to see the phenomenon in action.
 
lol
You could be something magical in the water there.
 
sbi
@LucDanton It would be cheaper to go to places in Europe. We're said to have places with hight time temperatures of -20°C in Germany these days.
 
10:44 AM
Is there snow in Portugal @RMartinhoFernandes
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion I think I read there's snow in Southern Spain. ICBWT.
 
It's -8 Celcius here in Belgium
 
@TonyTheLion The highest peaks here have snow.
It's cold as fuck.
 
oh wow
 
Oops, almost forgot to do a pun: It's so cold in Stockholm, I expect to see a lot of polar beards. #IllSeeMyselfOut
 
sbi
10:45 AM
@RMartinhoFernandes Ha! You might want to ask the @Cat what "cold" really means these days.
 
@sbi Silly continental climate. I recommend oceans, they're cool.
 
It's like 4ºC or something!
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Just -4°C? That's nothing here nowadays.
 
@sbi I didn't forget the minus sign.
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Wimp!
 
10:47 AM
When I say 4ºC, I mean 4ºC, not -4ºC.
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Yeah, the whores are called "frostitudes" in Scandinavia these days.
 
@sbi lol
 
sbi
Where're you from, @AzzA?
 
I'm gonna borrow this quote...
From cold places : Russia and Canada.. although I've never lived in cold parts of these countries, really
 
sbi
@AzzA I borrowed (and translated and slightly adapted) it from Mr. Waalkes, TBH.
 
10:52 AM
Well, I'll quote it with introduction "As they say in Scandinavia..."
 
sbi
@AzzA Otto Waalkes is a German Frisian, and he made this joke about a Greenland hooker. :-/
Complicated, huh?
 
Wait, no, then I'll have to explain to people what Scandinavia is... I'll just say "As they say it in Europe...yup, that's another country..."
 
sbi
"As the German Frisians say about the whores of Greenland..." just doesn't sound creditable.
@AzzA Ah, you're living in Canada right now, eh?
 
Well, I'm sure it applies to Northern Territories here in Canada too...
eh!
 
sbi
11:07 AM
@DeadMG The heating in this flat has been fighting the cold for >4hrs now and I'm still not comfortable sitting in the living room barefoot in my pajama. Also, for the 3rd time in the 9 years I'm living here, I had to close the larder's window, lest it freezes in there. And I had to actually turn on the heating in my sleeping room in order to keep the temperature above 10°C. (While I like to sleep cold, I don't like my nose freezing at night.) It's -9°C outside — at noon! Bloody cold.
 
lol
owch
 
sbi
On the upside, we have 5cm of snow since the night before last, which makes cold a bit more bearable. I suppose most of my kids are dashing through the snow right now. Me, I'm just happy they were scheduled to be with their mothers this weekend and I don't have to do that with them. :)
 
nice :)
i wonder whether +1'ing your own twitter or facebook/g+ posts is FAIL or not
 
@FredOverflow good talk, enjoying it a lot... thanks for the link
 

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