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11:00 AM
I can see them
 
Really?
You suck.
 
user142019
Fuck.
 
user142019
Class starts at 15:50, not 12:10.
 
user142019
Ah well, more time to work on zoidlib, Bliksems and Plaksel.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No!
 
11:01 AM
@KonradRudolph What?
 
this introduces more problems than it solves
 
user142019
@KonradRudolph that’s what C++ does anyway.
 
@KonradRudolph Having compilers emit warnings?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What characters did you use?
 
user142019
Every error should be a warning and UB. :P
 
11:03 AM
@Mysticial U+2063 INVISIBLE SEPARATOR. Does not count as whitespace, because it is intended to be a comma, just invisible.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes How did you enter it?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Not in general, but in the case of checked exceptions, yes
 
user142019
@Mysticial he is a robot.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Consider I have a function in library A that is noexcept which calls a function in library B. Now what happens when library B changes and throws in version 2?
 
@KonradRudolph I get a warning?
@Mysticial In hindsight, probably in the most difficult way that I could have thought of. I copy-pasted it from a textbox.
 
11:05 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes You break binary compatibility, you mean?
 
Warnings don't break anything.
 
user142019
If it’s really a major version, don’t update. If it’s a minor version, the library sucks for suddenly changing its interface.
 
@Mysticial It's tricky because you cannot see it, so there is no visual feedback that it is selected when you are copying it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
so it's select all copy+paste
 
@Zoidberg'-- Well, duh. But exceptions aren’t currently part of the interface for this very reason: it leads to problems because whether or not exceptions are thrown depends so much on the implementation that it makes interfaces unstable
 
11:07 AM
 
user142019
noexcept is part of the interface.
 
exceptions as part of the interface generally leak too much implementation detail
 
@KonradRudolph Exceptions become part of the interface when you write noexcept.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Yes, and rightly so. But it doesn’t actually check, just promise
 
user142019
Ah okay.
 
11:08 AM
noexcept already exists, and violating it already std::terminates.
I don't see what you are ranting on about.
 
I agree that in an ideal world noexcept should be strictly checked at compile time
 
... You know what?
Fuck iterators.
 
The deed is done, the guy was just clamouring for some warnings.
 
The only thing warnings break are builds that enable them as errors.
@KonradRudolph Violating noexcept calls std::terminate.
 
11:09 AM
Actually, @R.MartinhoFernandes convinced me – there’s no safe situation in which this could be permissible so it’s alright for the compiler to break binary compatibility
 
There is nothing to break!
 
user142019
TIL: violating noexcept calls std::terminate.
 
@Rapptz You suck.
 
Honestly it made the comment a lot funnier
 
My font has glyphs for invisible characters. Apparently yours doesn't.
Both of those sentences sound retarded.
 
11:12 AM
... Lol.
 
Huh? What font?
 
If I was a font maker I'd feel pretty strange making invisible glyphs.
 
Or maybe you are on Chrome and that pile of junk still doesn't do font fallback.
 
I am on Chrome.
 
At the desk, clicking on empty transparency and just wondering "Where did it all go wrong...?"
 
11:13 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Do spaces count as “invisible characters”?
 
ok... so I have come up with a way to write a list of folders and describe which ones to include and which to exclude and also add in details like 'only for windows' or 'only for 64 bit platforms. I think I have covered all the bases, include a way to handle the fact that unix file names will be able to have any character. Spelling aside, do you mind having a wee look over to to see if I have missed something big. Linky mcLink
 
user142019
 
@KonradRudolph No. Spaces are visible -> <- look here's one. Invisible separators are supposed to be really invisible (i.e. have width 0).
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmm, didn’t you use a hair space?
U+200A
 
@KonradRudolph No.
 
11:14 AM
or do I need to fire my hex dumper?
ah ok :) I accidentally the last character
 
11 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@Mysticial U+2063 INVISIBLE SEPARATOR. Does not count as whitespace, because it is intended to be a comma, just invisible.
 
So... it's supposed to solve the world's problems of whether to use comma or decimal as a number delimeter?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes IE renders them similarly to [,] (comma in a box)
 
^ I'm trying to figure out a use for it.
 
@KonradRudolph That one counts as whitespace.
Like this?
 
11:16 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yea
 
@ThePhD No. It's for math.
 
How is it used for math?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes, I accidentally hex dumped only the last character and apparently Stack Overflow adds a hair space between a comment and the separator
 
> contiguity operator indicating that adjacent mathematical symbols form a list, e.g. when no visible comma is used between multiple indices
 
perhaps the most boob like regex I have written for a valid reason /(.*)^(.*)/
 
11:17 AM
Looks like bug eyes to me
 
@thecoshman Insect!
 
@Rapptz Multiple subscripts, for example. Assume _ makes subscripts, like in LaTeX. a_ij is the element (i,j) of matrix a. You usually don't write a comma, but it is needed there to keep the semantics for machine processing.
 
Or, I dunno. A stoned Owl.
 
oh yeah, I see what you are on about
@cicada I regexed you :D
 
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A: Bitwise Operator on positive and negative numbers

BЈовић It works on positive number but it does not work on negative numbers. Using shift operator on negative integer numbers is an undefined behavior.

 
11:18 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Can't you just do a_{ij} I mean I don't understand the point of going out of your way to use it.
 
^^ um...
 
@Rapptz How do you distinguish "a" susbcripted with "i" and "j" from "a" subscripted with "ij"? Or "i * j"?
 
@Rapptz Consider a_{24}
Is that 2, 4, or spot 24, or ......
 
@ThePhD Spot 24 is usually defined as 2,4 though?
Unless you have an abnormally large matrix I guess. However I do understand where you're going with this.
 
Wow: TIL wc -m
(counts characters in the current locale, rather than bytes)
 
11:22 AM
@Rapptz Humans can easily tell from context. Machines cannot.
Which is the whole reason these are invisible.
 
The only thing I don't understand is how a human is going to know to insert an invisible operator inbetween those two things
 
And why he can't use a comma
 
@ThePhD The human will probably use some interface geared for typing mathematical expressions.
@Rapptz Because mathematicians find that ugly... What can I say.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ooh, and then it translates it. ... Or for us static language folk, Compiles it. :3c
 
There's really no rule against using commas for matrix notation lol
 
11:24 AM
spam :(
 
Let's ban this fucker.
 
A lot of mathematicians are allergic to using punctuation.
a * b ? Nah, ab
 
:6682713 Will do. And let's remove that message <2 mins
 
abcd/cdfg
 
@ThePhD Undefined (I'm kidding of course)
 
11:25 AM
Can throw dot products in there if there's some vectors, maybe a scalar multiplication. You'd never know, because fuck dots and stars and crosses and shit.
Nospace is the only space worth exploring.
 
It's 6:30 AM and I still haven't slept so I'll go to sleep now
 
@ThePhD Btw, there is also U+2062 INVISIBLE TIMES for this situation.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Unicode really did think of everything.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Can you overload that in C++ yet? :p
 
11:26 AM
@Rapptz Niiiiiiiiiiiight.
 
LoL for U+2062
 
Sleep tiiiight.
 
There is also an invisible plus and an invisible function application.
 
user142019
Google Groups y u force me to sign in you piece of shit.
 
@Neil You must have missed my gifs of last night/morning
 
11:28 AM
The plus is for fractions (think 3¼) and the function application is to disambiguate stuff like "f(x+y)" as a function application instead of multiplication.
 
Xeo
TIL mods can edit other people's chat messages.
And mornin.
 
@Xeo same
They can also edit comments on posts. (even past the 5 min. mark)
 
@sehe This reminds me. I got to see a lot of people who programmed games in both Java and Javascript today. It was pretty lulsy, and I almost burst out laughing during presentations when they started talking about how performance was hurting (during the Javascript) one.
Java can get some fairly good performa - whoa when did I reach 71 rep?
 
> We all hate Java but we shouldn't lynch the people who write it.
yes we should
 
Xeo
Oh hey, atleast we don't see SO flags over there.
 
11:30 AM
@Xeo :O
 
user142019
Screw project files.
 
Wow, I'm actually getting rep from questions I answered a while ago. ... That's a really good feeling
 
Xeo
Which means no annoyance because of stupid JS, PHP and Casual Chat.
 
@TonyTheLion :( but I need the moneys
@ThePhD me too, it's a very slow trickle though
 
@TonyTheLion Cough
 
11:31 AM
@thecoshman on the plank with you! :P
 
@ThePhD Attention deficit much?
 
user142019
I’m going to block the flags bubble with AdBlock.
 
@sehe cough cough
 
Right now get ~30-60 rep a day from old answers.
 
@TonyTheLion guns are the solution
 
11:32 AM
@sehe Hey it was important. D:
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lemme see...
 
> We don't want to flag people but we will.
huh?
 
@TonyTheLion ¬_¬ do you know what 'lynching' is?
 
@TonyTheLion Where is that from?
 
.... In either case. Java can get some good performance but I saw that taskmanager. Jesus christ java EATS memory. Omnomnomnom.
 
user142019
11:33 AM
I get around 10 rep a day from old answers.
 
@Zoidberg'-- This is really spam. Just validate them.
 
oh I'm reading the Javascript room rules
 
user142019
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh. oops
 
@thecoshman hanging someone?
I know I said plank, but I quite enjoy planking :P
 
user142019
I enjoy plonking.
 
11:34 AM
@TonyTheLion planking is something else altogether
@TonyTheLion bleh
 
I know, I'm being an idiot.
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@thecoshman I was like, oh lol.
 
Oh hey. I just noticed I answer more questions than I realize. I have days/weeks without an answer. Maybe an odd spirit one but nothing much. So apparently there's night when I get bored
@TonyTheLion your perceived IQ has just dropped 23 foot
 
user142019
I wonder how much the following line will confuse my teammates:
 
user142019
addObject(player = new Citizen(), 40, 67);
 
@sehe oh, I had no idea about perceived IQ. TIL
@Zoidberg'-- how is that confusing?
and, what language is that?
 
user142019
11:39 AM
@TonyTheLion = operator in a subexpression. And Java.
 
user142019
brb
 
Grr, I hate locales. I really don’t understand them :(
 
@Zoidberg'-- is that valid Java?
 
Planking (or the Lying Down Game) is an activity consisting of lying face down —sometimes in an unusual or incongruous location. Both hands must touch the sides of the body. Some players compete to find the most unusual and original location in which to play. The term planking refers to mimicking a wooden plank. Planking can include lying flat on a flat surface, or holding the body flat while it's supported in only some regions, with other parts of the body suspended. Many participants in planking have photographed the activity in unusual locations and have shared such pictures thro...
well, it's a fad
lol
appropriate image there, SO onebox
> such as a girl planking with her head in a toilet
dafuq?
> On 15 May 2011, Acton Beale, a 20-year-old man, plunged to his death after reportedly "planking" on a seventh-floor balcony in Brisbane, Australia.[17] He eventually won a Darwin Award in 2011
what
He won something for falling to his death while playing a stupid game???
My faith in humanity just dropped to an all time low.
 
11:43 AM
it's a Darwin Award
not the kind of thing you want to win
 
oh I see
hahah
 
it's an award given to people doing things so hideously stupid, we're glad they removed themselves from the gene pool
 
I see
oh I get it
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who starred that?
you dipshits
 
lol I didn't even notice
 
So in my understanding, shouldn’t ctype<>::to_lower work with the current locale’s encoding?
 
11:47 AM
but now I joined in
 
@DeadMG you bastard
 
btw, we need a onebox for that
 
no, we don't
oneboxing the gists is really bad, they take up the whole mo'fuggin screen
and secondly, we never, ever, get our requests implemented
you've got a better chance submitting your bug to Microsoft Connect
 
@DeadMG Because nobody listens to the Meta request to make the onebox smaller. Just displaying a few lines (~ 5) would be totally fine
@DeadMG I’ve noticed that
 
11:51 AM
oh, there's Tony talking about himself being an idiot on the starboard, I didn't notice that, MUST STAR
 
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Q: In C++, does '<=' suppose extra computation time in comparision with '<'

Albert T.Does the operator '<=' or '>=' suppose extra computation time in comparision with '<' or '>'.

^ close
 
We really need idiots.stackexchange.com.
so ALL the idiots can go ask things idiots would ask
 
Where do people keep hearing about these things?
Goddammit, I want another good performance question to answer. Not silly shit like this.
 
what things?
 
11:56 AM
@TonyTheLion Like that question.
 
oh right
 
@Mysticial just ask & answer your own question if you have anything interesting to share
 

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