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11:00 PM
Um. I have already upvoted this answer. And I think that's Ok. I do believe you. (After all, Mysticial said the same. And if there's one guy here who keeps tabs on where his rep comes from/goes to, it's him.) — sbi 1 hour ago
 
> Toilet paper when used with a toilet roll holder with a horizontal axle parallel to the wall has two possible orientations: the toilet paper may hang over (in front of) or under (behind) the roll. The choice is largely a matter of personal preference, dictated by habit. In surveys of American consumers and of bath and kitchen specialists, 60–70% of respondents prefer over. Despite its being an apparently trivial topic, some people hold strong opinions on the matter.
Advice columnist Ann Landers said that the subject was the most controversial issue in her column's history.
 
Hmm...maybe we should fix it once and for all: instead of any form of markdown, each chat message will be sent as a self-rendering Java object. Yeah, that's the ticket!
 
@sbi Now click "(see full text)"
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's a new one!
 
> Advice columnist Ann Landers said that the subject was the most controversial issue in her column's history
^ she must have had a rather dull career column
 
sbi
11:02 PM
She must have had a shitty column, really.
 
@JerryCoffin Wait a second. That does remind me of something that use to be popularized in the beginning (the heydays, so to speak) of XML. I'm trying to remember what that was called
 
@sbi Dat pun
 
@sehe I read it once. "rather dull" is a profound understatement.
 
@sehe VML?
 
@Insilico VRML maybe?
 
11:03 PM
@Insilico Something like that. Not so sure about this particular acronym though
 
@sbi But only quotes get rendered properly like this. The rest is the same old crap.
 
@JerryCoffin Definitely not that. Isn't that the (3D) navigation thingie?
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah, VRML, that's what the acryonym was.
@sehe It's one of the first attempts to bring 3D to the web I think.
 
@sehe Not sure about navigation, but markup to do 3D, vector-based drawing.
 
(By the way there's no such thing as "VML".) I stand corrected.
VRML (Virtual Reality Modeling Language, pronounced vermal or by its initials, originally—before 1995—known as the Virtual Reality Markup Language) is a standard file format for representing 3-dimensional (3D) interactive vector graphics, designed particularly with the World Wide Web in mind. It has been superseded by X3D. WRL File Format VRML is a text file format where, e.g., vertices and edges for a 3D polygon can be specified along with the surface color, UV mapped textures, shininess, transparency, and so on. URLs can be associated with graphical components so that a web browser ...
 
11:04 PM
Vector Markup Language (VML) is an XML-based file format for two-dimensional vector graphics. VML is specified in Part 4 of the Office Open XML standards ISO/IEC 29500 and ECMA-376. According to the specification, VML should be considered a deprecated format included in Office Open XML for legacy reasons only. VML is pervasively used in MS Office 2007 (and later version) documents (i.e. Word, Excel and Powerpoint documents). History VML was submitted to the W3C in 1998 by Autodesk, Hewlett-Packard, Macromedia, Microsoft, and Visio. Around the same time other competing W3C submissio...
 
@Insilico What? An unused TLA? I thought TLAs ran out before IPv4 addresses did.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Damn, I would have brought up something way more off the mark, rather than sensibly refuting his claim.
 
@ThePhD No? US have a bill that tries to regulate stuff outside their jurisdiction. Well, good luck with that :)
 
@JerryCoffin I presume the acronym ASS hasn't been used yet... no wait stupid assumption.
 
@Insilico [SIC]...
 
11:06 PM
@sehe True, but I can just see the shenanigans multinational airlines will pull. "WELL AS LONG AS WE FLY TO THE U.S WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR CARBON EMISSIONS LuLz!"
 
@Insilico Hmm...many years ago, a couple of friends and I used that as our "initials" for entering high scores on Centipede machines.
 
"EuMad?"
 
@ThePhD As long as they stay on course headed straight into the sun, I don't care :)
 
> Determining Gapless Playback information Analyzing 1229 of 38454...
That's gonna take a while...
itunes sucks.
 
@Mysticial Use Foobar2000.
 
11:07 PM
What else is new
 
@Mysticial You are very perceptive.
 
What else is new
 
Or MediaMonkey, though they require you to pay for a 'gold edition' of their media player, I think. And annoy you about it.
 
It's been a long time since I've rebuilt my entire library.
 
I think ther's also... Songbird?
 
11:08 PM
@Mysticial Next you're going to try to convince us that Steve Jobs isn't God!
 
@ThePhD What does the "gold edition" give you?
 
@Mysticial Seeing that it takes about three weeks, I'm not surprised
@Insilico The craps
 
@Insilico Access to some weird digital library and maybe synccing? I think.
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin That would be 26^3 vs. 2^32. Erm. Robot?
 
@Mysticial Might be faster to put it all on your server, do all the work in RAM, then move it back.
 
11:10 PM
@JerryCoffin iTunes library file is not very modular unless you move it to a system with the exact same naming scheme and directory tree as the original.
 
@JerryCoffin Not enough ram.
 
I had to have all my usernames the same across a few comps, or manually edit and fake out iTunes to port my library to other computers.
 
And I've already downloaded all the ram I could.
 
@ThePhD Figures they'd manage to block any attempt at efficiency.
 
@JerryCoffin It apparently used to be easier, but yeah they done fucked it up.
 
11:11 PM
@Mysticial What? More than 64 TiB in iTunes? Wow!
 
Funnily enough, their iTunes library is written in XML, which makes you think they wanted people to be able to see/read it.
Though I think there is a binary counterpart to the XML library (why have both, exactly?)
 
@sbi Latter is bigger.
 
@ThePhD Because Apple.
 
Is it at all possible to just drag-and-drop files in an iDevice and have it play it? Why do people bother with the POS that is iTunes?
 
@JerryCoffin 225 GB of music.
 
11:12 PM
@Mysticial Okay, close enough.
 
@Insilico Because, it's Apple and It Has A Store Built In.
 
(26 < 32; let's round to 32 then. We now have (2^5)^3, which is 2^15)
 
And OHMIGAWD COVAR FLOOO!!111!1!1!!1!
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Thanks! So @Jerry's claim was wrong.
 
11:14 PM
@ThePhD It's probably just zipped XML.
 
sbi
@Mysticial That would be way funnier if it was an ewe.
 
MS does the same with the modern Office formats.
 
ewe?
 
@Mysticial Young sheep.
 
@Mysticial You need to play more DF.
@sbi Erm, no.
 
11:15 PM
df?
 
@sbi That's some pretty strange....logic.
 
fuck, I'm behind on games.
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin What? I thought it's a female sheep?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Dwarf Fortress?
 
@sbi Probably, now that you mention it.
 
11:16 PM
@sbi There are less than 2^15 TLAs as I proved above. There are 2^32 IPv4 addresses. Can't you do the little math that is left?
@Borgleader Yes.
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin Erm. Sorry. I had it switched in me head.
 
@sbi That's what DF makes of it.
 
@Borgleader I've heard of it. Just not as "DF".
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Q: Answer edited to be less complete because of language bias?

Xeon06I'd like to direct your attention to this answer's revisions. The OP asked about ways to get Exif data, and I provided an answer with both a client-side and a server-side solution. This answer seemed to be good as it was upvoted and accepted. However, more than a year later today, the OP edited m...

^^ haha
> No PHP allowed in my answers
 
sbi
"To tup an ewe." Oops. hadn't heard of that one.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I guess that works out. I mean, Text Compression is pretty good, right? Makes sense to just compress a lot of text than write a new binary format.
 
11:18 PM
@Mysticial lolwut.
@ThePhD Yes.
 
@Rapptz I like how the OP was like "No PHP on my answers".
 
sbi
@Rapptz We know.
 
Wow it's literally up there.
 
11:20 PM
Roflmao.
 
"Destruction of content is inappropriate." That's the first time I hear this on meta. Has there been a shift of politics while I looked elsewhere? — sbi 1 min ago
 
A couple scrolls up. Here I was browsing meta.
 
Ouch
 
Dat realization.
 
What a coincidence. Haha
 
11:21 PM
@sehe LOL.
 
sbi
@Rapptz Yeah, of course. And we all believe that.
 
Hey hey.. :(
 
sbi
I must have a terrible (non-quantitative) reputation on meta, when even people I had never heard about (waits for robot to jump in and prove me wrong) try to hide things from me.
 
@sbi They can't cause I usually link it here. :P
 
@sbi busy stuffing my mouth
 
sbi
11:25 PM
@Mysticial Yeah, but I usually sleep when you post here.
@R.MartinhoFernandes With your keys, as it seems. Bad robot!
Wait, do you have a German keyboard at home?
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes "Übusy"
 
I keep DE, PT, and EN layouts on speed dial on all my machines.
 
I have JP and KR
 
sbi
2 hours ago, by sbi
@Mysticial You are batshit crazy.
 
11:28 PM
@sbi Why?
How do you type ç on a German layout? Or ß on an English layout? Who's crazy enough to code with non-English layout?
 
I code with the french layout :P
 
2 hours ago, by sbi
@Mysticial You are batshit crazy.
 
If I code with japanese characters all I get are boxes.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes I code with German layout. I never type "ç", (I just copied this.) All the English characters are on my German keyboard, so why would I need to switch to English?
 
I used to code with Portuguese layout, but AltGr strains my fingers too much.
 
11:31 PM
2 hours ago, by sbi
@Mysticial You are batshit crazy.
 
@Mysticial What now?
 
Interesting, I'm not highlighted when I quoted something with me in it.
 
@sbi But I do need to type "ç" sometimes.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes get your thumb replaced.
 
sbi
11:32 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes So use Portuguese layout.
 
@sbi Speaking of which? what are you doing up? Isn't it something like 0330?
 
@sbi But no ß. And as I said, AltGr for braces is painful (literally)
 
sbi
@Borgleader There's a keyboard layout called "Ink Correction"?!
 
@JerryCoffin lol, 00:30.
 
@sbi That seems to be from my drawing tablet.
 
11:33 PM
lol, I still have the Chinese keyboard enabled from a long time ago...
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin Oh, as the robot said, it's just past midnight. Also, I'm not up, I am sitting down.
 
@sbi Ah, sitting down explains everything.
 
sbi
@Mysticial How long ago? 50 years? Did the Chinese even make keyboards back then?
 
@sbi 4 or 5 years.
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin Would I have mentioned it if it wouldn't?
 
11:35 PM
@sbi Sure. They just hammer in a bunch of nails in a piece of wood and hang their keys on it. A "keyboard".
 
@sbi What? You mention irrelevancies? Never!
 
I don't use it much anymore since most of what I type is pretty much google-translate, then fix all the translation errors manually.
I'm not really literate in Chinese anyway.
 
@Mysticial Hmmm...I wonder if my wife is ever going to notice that I still have a Russian keyboard and start to ask questions...
 
@JerryCoffin Is your wife Russian?
 
11:37 PM
@Mysticial Clearly not?
 
@Mysticial No, but his mistress is.
Should I not have said that?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You had to say it didn't you. :P
 
@Mysticial No -- but my former fiance was (well, she's still Russian, but no longer my fiance).
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You were pretty close...
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin By definition, actually. If I say it...
 
11:38 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Only one mistress? :-P
 
@JerryCoffin that looks like octal for D8
 
I dunno, if the keyboard shifting is the same for everyone. For me it's ctrl+space.
Which is sometimes annoying in FPS games.
 
@Insilico Last thing I need. In fact, I switched the GPS to a male voice to reduce the number of women constantly telling me what to do...
 
Since I often crouch jump.
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@Mysticial lol
 
11:40 PM
So it chinese keyboard silently switches in
and when I type something, it comes out Chinese.
 
@Mysticial That would be a major pain in MS Word. Ctrl-Space applies 'normal' body text formatting
 
@Mysticial No, you can change the sequence needed. I used to keep it as something like left-alt, right-shift.
 
@sehe I'm not a big hotkey person in MS Word.
I hotkey mostly in Visual Studio.
 
@Mysticial So that would be hokey hotkeying?
 
I hotkey every-freaking-where. I hotkey on my piano, if I get the chance.
Sometimes I successfully hotkey my wife
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11:42 PM
compiling, and collapsing functions
mainly just those 2
commenting and indenting I still use the button
 
@Mysticial ^M^L and C-S-B
@Mysticial No freaking way :)
 
Ell
@sehe what sequence do you use with your wife?
 
@Mysticial So:
@Ell <undefined-type>
 
Ell
if. had type T which could be default constructed from integers and strings, could I go vector<T> = {1, 3, "hdi"};?
 
11:45 PM
@Ell yes
 
@sehe I also use W,A,S, and D to move around in FPS. Does that count?
 
Ell
kewl
 
@Mysticial Nope. That's not hot. That's just keys
 
And R for reload.
 
If those count as hotkeys, then vim...
Yes, I am comparing vim to first person shooters. I may need sleep.
 
sbi
11:47 PM
 
Yup. Let's not calculate temperature there
 
@sbi Clearly not Chinese, which would be in columns, not rows.
 
TIL Gravity in China goes left to right.
 
lol. That just means that too many chinese are horizontal, statistically
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin I would only put up my keyboard vertically if I found a way to make the keys hang off it horizontally.
 
11:49 PM
@sbi Which only shows that you're not Chinese!
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes I wouldn't rely on this, you know. TTBOMK the closest @Jeff ever came to China was Ireland.
 
Or he doesn't know how to operate a keyboard
 
How heavy would a vertical wall need to be for things to stick to it?
Assuming standard friction.
 
Maggets
 
11:49 PM
I wanted to make a joke out of "magnets", but I don't remember what "magnets" is a reference to.
@Mysticial What? Heaviness of the wall is irrelevant.
 
sbi
"I may need sleep."
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Mass
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Gravity.
 
@sbi Precisely
 
@Mysticial Erm. Then "standard friction" is irrelevant.
 
11:51 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Let's say the wall has half the mass of the Sun. Now, will keys stick to it?
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes It ain't. ("I may need sleep.")
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It needs to pull hard enough to so that the earth's gravity doesn't pull it down.
 
Friction is never irrelevant. Ask lubricant manufacturers
@Mysticial Oh, there was an earth too? That context was missing from the problem position
 
If there's no friction, then it would take infinite mass to keep an object on a perfectly vertical wall.
 
sbi
@sehe Just ask husbands.
 
11:52 PM
Though at some point the whole thing will just collapse on itself.
 
@Mysticial "the whole thing" === "the universe". Yup. check
 
Is it racist to say that all pugs look the same to me? http://t.co/h3dR0E1o
 
@sehe Sure, but you won't think of it as a "wall", because whatever direction (the most) gravity comes from is "down".
 
@JerryCoffin Well, some famous walls have famously changed their orientations before
 
Assume the wall is 30cm thick. Assume the coefficient of friction is 1.00. And assume the earth's gravity is 10m/s^2 down.
What density would the wall need to keep the object in place?
 
11:55 PM
@Mysticial gravity exerts force such that the average accelaration of a free object in the gravitional field would be 10m/s^2?
 
@sehe Yes.
From only the earth.
 
sbi
It's 9.81m/s². Just saying.
 
fixed
 
We need the wall to be massive enough so that it's own gravity field will pull it enough to produce enough friction force so it can't slide down.
 
@sbi Not in Cananananananananananada.
 
sbi
11:57 PM
@sehe Nope.
 
I suppose we also need to calculate torque...
since the center of gravity of the object might not be close to the wall.
damn...
 
Ell
torque of what?
 
It's better to start with a static system, no?
 
sbi
static_cast<physics>(universe)
 
Ell
nothing is rotating?
 
11:58 PM
@Ell If the object was a pencil, and I laid it flat against the wall. Vs. putting it perpendicular to the wall.
Obviously, the first case, the wall doesn't need to have such a strong gravity field to keep the pencil from falling down.
 
@sbi What is not fixed now? I know that the actual value is different (and varies) but that's completely beside the point: "assume"...
 
Ell
ohhhh I get it
 

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