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12:00 AM
@StackedCrooked has nothing to do with endianness, in twos-compliment they're identical for values bewteen zero and two billion
 
Xeo
So... let's see how long make update takes for llvm. :D I think I last updated it sometime in march.
 
@MooingDuck Why are you complimenting a number?
 
uint16_t doesn't go to 2 million.
 
@StackedCrooked after integer promotion it does
 
@StackedCrooked Varargs promotes ALL the things.
 
12:01 AM
and anything you pass %u to uses promtion
 
Xeo
C-style variadic ... does standard promotion on all arguments.
 
I don't think printf can do integer promotion if it has to rely on the %u to deduce that its unsigned.
 
@StackedCrooked Varargs promote everything before it gets passed to printf.
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked It's not the printf specifically that promotes.
 
@StackedCrooked it does: char, short, etc are promoted to int, float is promoted to double.
 
12:02 AM
printf never sees a short.
 
Xeo
@MooingDuck The format specifier really has nothing to do with this.
@R.MartinhoFernandes *In short, printf never sees short -- FTFY
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It promotes everything? Ok, I guess that introduces some fault tolerance :p
 
@StackedCrooked Yes, everything.
It would be an even worse mess if it did not do that.
 
Actually, that makes sense.
I would be difficult to implement otherwise.
 
Xeo
Gah, I should've done make -j2 update :|
Oh, nvm, it's done.
I guess it's time to trash my RAM, then, by trying to compile it. hopes he doesn't wake up to an aborted message in the morning
 
12:06 AM
template<class ...Ts> void foo(Ts... Vs)
"main.cpp:13:6: error: unused parameter ‘Vs#0’ [-Werror=unused-parameter]"
huh.
 
Xeo
The -Werror is waaay to liberal :s
 
You can selectively disable it.
 
I was more interested in that it named each of my template parameters
@Pubby yes
 
Woo, time to build a Dispatcher!
 
@MooingDuck Heh
 
12:14 AM
@Xeo Don't you mean literal?
'turn warnings into errors', duh.
 
void real_foo(unsigned count, unsigned ...) {
va_list ap;
va_start(ap, count); //Requires the last fixed parameter (to get the address)
main.cpp:6:24: error: second parameter of ‘va_start’ not last named argument [-Werror]
 
Xeo
@LucDanton I meant the -Werror on stacked-crooked.com
 
@Pubby or take an initializer list rather than normal parameters.
 
Xeo
std::initializer_list isn't as cool as it might sound, with all the forced copies n stuff.
2
 
> Disclaimer: If you haven't figured it out, the pic isn't really me.
 
Xeo
12:24 AM
Crap. I forgot my Debian password. :|
I normally just suspend it, so I forgot over the months...
 
D3b!4N probably.
 
Xeo
Oh, I remembered (No, it was not some 1337 stuff)
 
@sehe Are you sure?
 
@StackedCrooked I don't claim either side. Just relaying the motion
 
I just remembered that I have an Orkut account.
 
12:28 AM
@sehe NSFW?
 
That awkward moment when you realize that you have an actual Orkut account
@Chimera Then flag his account, or accept that SO is NSFW?
 
Can I ask some design feedback?
 
Anybody here know a lot about rifles?
 
@StackedCrooked What's Orkut?
 
12:29 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Read the newbie hints. Don't ask if you can ask questions!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes. But you can't control the dosage
 
It's a social network from Google that is (or used to be) mostly popular in Pakistan and Brazil.
 
@Pubby Well, I was probing if anyone would be interested. I know I can ask.
 
But that was back in 2006-2008.
 
@sehe See that doesn't really work for me because I posted an image of a woman here and it was promptly moved to bin.
 
12:30 AM
@Pubby That's contradictory. You can't ask unless you can ask questions!
 
Double standard much?
 
poop time
 
@Chimera So... This makes it impossible for you to address the issue, because ... ?
 
@Chimera He binned it already.
 
@sehe It's binned, the issue is addressed.
 
I find it offensive when/if people remove pictures of Kate Upton!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm pretty sure he couldn't see that because he had disabled all images using the 'panic NSFW' button
 
@JerryCoffin I don't find anything offensive, double standards however.... I do.
 
@Xeo You might want to add this guy to your Google+ circles.
 
@Chimera Cough. I remember something in the history of this chat. Also, it's not double standards. Anyone may have posted a oneboxed profile link. Granted, the pic came out bigger than on SO proper. So I opted to bin it for you
 
12:33 AM
> This is because all the characters names use a very small subset of ASCII (by definition), so storing them as UTF-8 seems like the obvious choice.
 
@Chimera I agree with your point, but actually there are multiple standards around here, by design.
 
I thought you said you didn't want lossy conversions :S
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked If I used Google+...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes By design?
 
Xeo
Also, don't you just love how innocent the Higurashi characters look?
 
12:34 AM
@JerryCoffin I find it amazing anyone would recognize that pic. How on earth are we supposed to keep track of those
 
@Xeo Heh. That's kind of scary.
 
@Xeo That show is awesome.
 
@Mysticial How was your class?
 
Xeo
Especially Rena...
 
@sehe Right-click, "search image on tin-eye".
 
12:34 AM
@Chimera One per owner :P It just happens that on certain issues there is a consensus among those standards.
 
@Xeo If by "innocent" you mean "improbably proportioned mutants", sure.
 
The School Rumble image makes me smile. That series was funny as hell at times.
 
@Chimera Just another boring lecture class.
 
@JerryCoffin Wokay :)
 
Xeo
@Mysticial I played the first chapter of the original Visual Novel on my iPhone, since it was free. Man, the atmosphere!!
 
12:35 AM
@JerryCoffin You had to search?
I am disappoint.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Just seems to me that if one image of a female in a bikini is to be binned then they should all be binned.
 
@Xeo You played Higurashi on your iPhone?!?
 
Regardless of source or size.
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel Do you know "Higurashi"?
 
@Chimera Sure, and that is actually one of the things where there is some consensus.
 
Xeo
12:36 AM
@Mysticial Yes, like I said, they're porting the original Visual Novel chapter-by-chapter to the iOS
 
@Xeo Nope.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You still searched. Even if you have the index cached in-mermory and in-cerebrum, it still counts as search
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel Well, there's your problem.
 
@Xeo I saw that.
 
Xeo
@Mysticial And the first chapter was free (the others are 5.99$ IIRC)
 
12:37 AM
Is iphone not a little small?
 
Ell
@Cheersandhth.-Alf if you are up right now - how do you know when to use "et" and when to use "en" in norwegian? If you aren't up right now then don't bother, thanks :)
 
@Xeo Not exactly my kind of game, actually.
 
Xeo
So I went and read that. So fucking awesome.
 
@Pubby See, no one showed any interest :(
 
@Mysticial Tell us what you learned. :-)
 
Xeo
12:37 AM
@StackedCrooked Nope.
 
So I am going to bed and bother you again tomorrow.
 
@Chimera nothing
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Threats
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Before I searched, I didn't even know who she was. The last time I paid attention to a SI swimsuit issue it had Kathy Ireland on the cover. Maybe it's just that I'm old, but she struck me as a lot more attractive.
 
Nop nop
 
12:38 AM
Well... I learned that the final programming project had a slight modification.
 
@Xeo Perhaps I should download it on mine as well then.
 
Xeo
Higurashi has fullscreen text anyways, with images in the background.
 
@Mysticial What is your final project?
 
Come to think of it, I don't really like Japanese games, no matter the genre, mostly because they are closer to interactive movies than actual games. I want to be in control, damn it, not railroaded towards events.
 
@Chimera I don't know yet. I should probably read it at some point.
 
Xeo
12:38 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes See ya in 2 hours.
 
@Mysticial lol
 
@EtiennedeMartel Kakuro?
 
@EtiennedeMartel When I was a kid we had those books where you could choose which path to take as the book went along. Fun times.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't understand why you can't return char const*
 
@JerryCoffin To be honest, I didn't recognize her. I knew who she was because Alf posted some pictures before.
 
12:39 AM
@Chimera Yeah, I "played" a few of those.
 
@Pubby Does not play nice with the algorithms, i.e., needs to be decoded by hand, and the type does not convey any information about the encoding.
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel And that's exactly what Visual Novels are.
 
I came to the sudden realization the other day that JRPGs aren't RPGs at all.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I dunno then, but prefer the ones with better performance
 
@EtiennedeMartel It feels to me like these days most games coming out of Japan are tagged as JRPGs regardless of their content -.-;
 
12:43 AM
How relevant (at least for my job).
 
@Borgleader I wonder if it occured to anyone that a society that values conformity above anything else might not be the best place for creativity. Cue dying Japanese game industry.
 
someone paid 1024 dollars for the humble bundle O.o
 
@nixeagle Hey, at this point, giving anything to THQ counts as charity.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah... well at least were salvaging their devs :) IIRC a few of their top ones have moved to european/north-american companies.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Escapism is a great source for creativity.
 
12:45 AM
It should be called the privileged commercial bundle if THQ is involved
 
and it is already over 1.3 million... in less than a day.
 
I'd buy the bundle but I already have all the games except for RF: Armageddon
I bought the THQ pack on Steam 1-2 years ago
 
so pay what that one game is worth to you :P
 
evening
 
@nixeagle I don't really want it... I already have 174 games on steam and no time to play the 140 or so games that I haven't started yet...
 
12:46 AM
lol
whoa @Borgleader
 
Xeo
@Borgleader Welcome to how Steam works!
 
I have uh... 3 and I am playing... 1 the other 2 are unplayed.
 
Xeo
Makes you buy shitload of games with the sales which you'll never finish.
 
I just find it amazing that it is already over 1mil
 
@Xeo Maybe the games aren't even real!
 
12:48 AM
@nixeagle 5 Prince of Persia games -> 15$, 5 Counter Strike games -> 15$, 4 Humble Bundles (5-6 games each) 40$ each, ...
 
@Xeo I only buy when I think I'll get around to playing them. Then I postpone playing them... so I have not bought any in the last year.
 
Barkley Shut up and Jam: Gaiden is getting a sequel: kickstarter.com/projects/talesofgames/…
 
Kotor 1-2 -> 2.5$ each. <---- BEST MONEY I EVER SPENT
 
@Borgleader nice :)
kotor is what... googles
 
Star Wars Knight of the Old Republic
 
12:49 AM
Bioware stuff.
 
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Back before they were douchiffied by EA.
 
nice game x)
 
The first is Bioware, afaik the second is made by another company. (Confirmed, Obsidian made the 2nd)
 
12:49 AM
@nixeagle You called it earlier
7 hours ago, by nixeagle
By tonight I bet
 
@Borgleader Steam says 241 on my profile. I don't believe it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh! I get it. You have 241 rep on steam!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes o.O It's possible. Check your library :P
 
@Borgleader Not anywhere near it.
I have a feeling those packs with a zillion $.50 DLCs count as 1 game per item.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes hey, steam has to make it somewhat easy to gain rep ;)
 
12:52 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes The way I see how many games is in the Library Page, you can choose what to display (Installe, Recent, ...) Theres a number next to "All". Thats what I take.
 
Also, some games show up as duplicates because of the Mac version.
@Borgleader Ah, I was looking on the website, under "View profile".
The Library says 140.
But there's still a bunch of dupes because of the Mac versions.
About 50 are from Humble Bundles.
 
I only got 58.
The huge majority of them are from bundles.
 
@EtiennedeMartel hey that is more than I. I have 3 x)
 
Xeo
Alright, time to sleep (and compile Clang). G'night.
 
How can I see what symbols are exported from a DLL?
 
12:59 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes objdump
on linux that is.
 
DLLs are on Windows, so that isn't very useful :P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well it works in cygwin :/
 
no problem, looks like dumpbin is the microsoft equivalent
 
Hmm, strange. Both the static lib and the DLL take about 6MB, but when compressed the DLL fits in 800K, but the static lib uses 2MB.
 
1:08 AM
Well, you don't usually ship the static lib around, do you?
 
How's that relevant?
 
So it doesn't need to compress well, because it'll be embedded in the executable, right?
 
Oh, I'm not worried about that. I'm just curious as to why the discrepancy.
 
Ah. Um.
I'm not sure.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Interesting...
 
1:10 AM
Ah, wait no. The DLL is smaller now that I cleaned up the ABI. Only 4MB.
That can explain the discrepancy.
 
Silly Canadians.
 
Silly Conservatives, actually.
 
Silly Humans.
 
Silly Aliens.
 
1:14 AM
@EtiennedeMartel sorryworld.ca
 
Bad title of the day:
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Q: please.. solved this questions for all?

Manyesterday we have some problem for making WEB SERVICES on my quiz. here I must make server using java then for the client using ASP.NET. after that I must getting the database from SQL Server. spesification : (1) how to make WEB SERVICE server to client, (2) server using JAVA platform (netbea...

 
Engrish of the day award goes to.... this guy
 
> The UN is fast becoming a danger to the world. This move and others like it, along with some of the comments below, reek of anti-semitism. Understand the basis of Israel's founding. These votes usurp due process and create more problems.
ARRRGGHGHG
That's it. I'm pissed.
 
Bitbucket downloads should allow a description.
 
"doesn't work" should automatically be banned from all questions/comments unless followed by "because of the following error"
 
1:17 AM
fuck you.... all — Man 13 secs ago
 
inb4 Luchian. That's an accomplishment.
 
@Mysticial lolwut
 
@Mysticial He seems to have deleted it.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Comments like that need only 1 flag to delete.
 
1:18 AM
@EtiennedeMartel Flags on comments can result in automated deletion.
 
Wasn't me who flagged it though.
 
Damn, why remove proofs that he's a tool?
 
So, who's running Linux with GCC 4.7.2 and Python 2.7 that wants to build me some binaries?
The Pi is ARM, so I cannot use it for this.
 
@Mysticial aww I wanted to read that, but it got deleted :P
 
1:21 AM
Awww now I want 10k rep...
 
gimme a sec
 
@Borgleader jancok kon teleeeeeek
 
@LuchianGrigore o.o what!?
 
dunno man....
 
1:23 AM
@Mysticial what sort of fucked-up porn did you have open in your main browser window that you had to open a new one for the screenshot?
 
@LuchianGrigore I always open new questions in a new window.
 
suuure
 
I have an auto-refresher in my main window.
When something pops, I shift-click.
 
^ (adding arrow for clarity) Someone's a power user...
 
^ the reason I won't ever get a ton of rep.
 
1:25 AM
yesterday was a good day for me
>300
woot woot
 
I thought you were limited to 200 a day
 
I've made ~no rep in the last month... too laze
@nixeagle You still get points for accepted answers and badges even if you've reached the upvote cap. afaik
 
@Borgleader I only bother if I happen across a question I know the answer to and nobody else has offered one. Usually happens on older questions though.
 
Now I really want to know what "jancok kon telek" means...
 
@LuchianGrigore Meh... +195 for me. Busy day for me though. Full of meetings. Didn't get much a chance sit on my computer.
 
1:27 AM
google translate isn't of much help
Man, United State
19 2
 
The most I got in one day was 380.
That was with a bounty.
 
419 here
I've never got a bounty
 
Most for me is 325. With a +50 bounty.
 
@LuchianGrigore He's in the United State?
Like, a single state?
 
It's truly united.
 
1:30 AM
I guess.
So, he's American, but with what seems to be a rather poor grasp of English. Now, the US don't have any official language, but still, it's a bit weird.
 
@LuchianGrigore I think there have been a number of people who have gotten +1000 in a single day. Bounties obviously.
 
I still don't know what "jancok kon telek" means.
@Mysticial at the beginning of the year, there was this Mrgomez guy that was really active and did that.
 
I remember him. It was pretty epic.
 
And didn't repcap either... haha
 
1:34 AM
I have 450 total from bounties. :/
 
@Mysticial amateur :))
 
I have 50 total from bounties... haha
@LuchianGrigore Hey but got more rep than both your and my best days.
 
Ell
I wish people would give ne money instead of chocolate!
 
@Mysticial ...put together.
 
@Ell just don't get in vans with strangers....
 
1:35 AM
Although I'd argue that my "best" day is the day I got ~980 upvotes instead of my 325 day.
 
Ell
980 updates? Woah :P
 
ah, the good old times, before SO knew about branch prediction (apparently)
 
Ell
Oh yeah the train track answer
 
Dafuq...
 
1:40 AM
I have no idea what I just watched
 
Alrighty.
 
Ell
I don't get it.
he opened a bottle of wine with a shoe?
 
also works with a towel
not a redneck imo
 
also works with a bottle opener...
 
1:45 AM
A physics scholar in my book.
 
@Borgleader well, you can also program in Java, but you prefer to do it the dirty way (C++), don't you?
 
Goddamit... every time I try to get rep on meta, the question I answer always gets deleted.
 
@LuchianGrigore Programming in Java dirtys my soul. C++ is my redemption
3
 
@Mysticial Why do you want rep on meta?
metawhore (c)
 
@LuchianGrigore 10k to see all the deleted stuff.
 
1:47 AM
@LuchianGrigore Because SO is too mainstream ;)
 
@LuchianGrigore 10k, obviously.
 
Why do you want rep on SO?
SOwhore (c)
 
@Borgleader And it seems to relate to garbage collection.
 
@Mysticial there already was a term for that. It's repwhore.
 
Why isn't a c-style cast allowed for the vector iterator, but &(*it) is?
 
1:50 AM
Why are people so freaking eager to delete things instead of simply closing them :/
 
@LuchianGrigore Did I hear my name?
 
I saw a link to that and I'd like to read it :(
 
@nixeagle Because shame.
 
@LuchianGrigore Dammit, it's no fun to compete against you anymore. You already have more rep than me. How about we bet on who gets the next +100? :P (I think I'll lose this bet through since I hardly answer anything anymore.)
 
@CaptainGiraffe *it returns an answer.
 
1:51 AM
@nixeagle hang on
 
@Mysticial first to 100k?
 
Well it is stupid, it breaks links and it breaks history. I'm sure there is some interesting stuff in that question, there usually are for that type of question.
 
@LuchianGrigore fuck no :D
 
@JerryCoffin right :))
 
@LuchianGrigore Why not the (int*) it cast then?
 
1:52 AM
@CaptainGiraffe well, because it is an object of type iterator that doesn't have a cast operator to int.
 
Because it is not a pointer to an int?
 
@Mysticial Good guy Mysticial
 
@nixeagle Lemme know if you want more further down.
I only have 2 monitors stacked. Not enough to hold all of it.
 
@Mysticial yea I kinda would if you don't mind
 
1:54 AM
dang 12 delete votes
 
if vector<int>::iterator is not a pointer to an int, then we have problems.
 
No, we don't.
 
I just find it silly why this stuff gets deleted instead of simply closed. Deleting makes sense for spam or gibberish but not stuff that is upvoted to this extent.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes So what is it?
 
@CaptainGiraffe we would if it was. It's okay like this.
 
@CaptainGiraffe Consider what are c-style casts.
 
@CaptainGiraffe An object that iterates over the vector.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes haha good idea
 
iterators have pointer semantics, you don't really need more.
 
oh nice @R.MartinhoFernandes
Thanks :P
 
1:56 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes o.o That's pretty sweet. Wish the content was formatted better though...
 
@Borgleader Yeah :/ But there's a bunch of popular deleted questions in the archive.
 
Old SO sounds a lot cooler than new SO
 
@Rapptz I dislike the deletionist trend. It used to just be closing questions like this, now it seems to be outright deletion.
 
@LuchianGrigore Ok, I'll guess I'd just have to be cool with that.
 
as I said, I feel it is one thing to delete spam or really really bad and worthless questions. It is a whole different matter to delete questions with lots of upvotes and answers. Almost a smack in the face to those who took the time to answer the question in the first place.
Plus interesting history. x)
 

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