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4:00 PM
I'm in a fairy tale!
 
@DeadMG Better hope it's Disney, not Grimm.
 
It's fairly grim
 
Ell
hi
 
4:07 PM
@Ell Hell -- er, uh...Hi Ell.
 
Ell
:D
 
@JerryCoffin For a moment, I thought that was Heil, and I was like, why the random Hitler reference?
 
@DeadMG I'm really God(win) in disguise. Well, a god of Windows programming, anyway!
 
Range-based for loops are stupid?
 
4:09 PM
That's not what I said.
Dammit.
 
24 mins ago, by DeadMG
@bamboon It's well-known that ranged-for is a dumb thing and should never have been approved.
 
@kbok Have you ever seen one write any poetry or paint a painting? Must be pretty stupid then!
 
@JerryCoffin Must resist urge to mspaint silliness.
Yes, I just verbed "mspaint".
 
@FredOverflow Hmm...so imitating Kiss still hasn't gone out of style!
 
4:11 PM
@JerryCoffin You know what to wear tonight.
 
@JerryCoffin What?
RBFL is like poetry now?
 
@JerryCoffin Well, that video is almost 20 years old or something :)
 
@FredOverflow Oh, hadn't considered that possibility.
 
 
@JerryCoffin Well, 17.5 years, actually :)
 
4:13 PM
@kbok lol
 
@kbok No, I'm saying they most be stupid because they can't paint or write poetry (etc.)
 
oh sh... it seems I can't use multi-line string literals with CATCH `REQUIRE` macro in VC++ -- in code like this:
REQUIRE(eval(R"(
let a = 1
let b = 20
let a = a + b
return a
)") == "21");
 
@kbok Omg... not those again...
 
@JerryCoffin Oh, I see. :)
 
my client's firewall is blocking imgur :(
 
4:15 PM
@netcoder wait, what?
That's lame...
 
I know right
especially since Facebook and Youtube work
 
That seems a bit overkill.
 
I don't see the point of blocking imgur specifically
 
Good morning, fellow humans!
 
It's already night here :/
 
4:16 PM
That's like, "Let's block the internet because it has porn".
 
Ah, right, UTC+2.
 
@EtiennedeMartel humans, animals and other things, FTFY
 
@EtiennedeMartel You carbon chauvinist.
 
@Mysticial So you've converted to Republicanism I see.
 
@Abyx Unless we're talking about otherkins, I refuse to consider I might not be conversing with humans.
 
4:17 PM
also it's not morning.
 
@Abyx Perhaps in the benighted parts of the world it's not.
 
@Abyx Maybe in your lame timezone it isn't...
 
@Abyx Russia, eh? Is it cold down there?
Because it's freaking cold here today.
 
@EtiennedeMartel yep, it is. -7 here, but it snows and it's fuckin' cold =\
 
@EtiennedeMartel the wiiiiiiiiiind! :|
 
4:21 PM
@netcoder And the fact that my hair was wet.
 
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A: Why can't there be an "ultimate" programming language?

Hui ZhouI signed up just to answer this question. I had a lot of thoughts on this. I think there should be one perfect programming language, just that people have not realized it yet. I think the perfect programming language is C1000. It is largely the same as the current C99, but with scattered bits ...

 
@Mysticial Did he put it as community wiki to avoid getting downvoted to death?
 
@Mysticial Because the puppy is a lazy fuck.
 
@EtiennedeMartel The whole question is wiki.
 
@Mysticial Well.
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's LLVM's fault! </sarcasm>
 
4:24 PM
> C is not so painful to hand write compared to assembly, and it supports imperative programming, object-oriented programming, and functional programming.
 
@Mysticial I stopped at "C1000"
 
@Mysticial You gotta love a question with 2 pages of answers, all but 5 of which have been deleted, and the sum of scores for all (non-deleted) answers is 0.
 
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Functional programming in C
 
@JerryCoffin Page 2
 
@CatPlusPlus I'm sensing a little bit of sarcasm in there.
 
4:24 PM
Not so painful
 
@Mysticial Oops.
 
@CatPlusPlus Well, the key here is compared to assembly.
 
@JerryCoffin Popular questions like this always attract a trail of crap.
 
@CatPlusPlus Well, it's true - compared to assembly it isn't so painful. Admittedly, that's a bit like saying: "hey, having my arm broken wasn't so painful -- compared to having both my legs cut off with a chainsaw while being burnt at the stake."
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah. Though the type of question does have an effect on how much crap it attracts.
 
4:27 PM
@JerryCoffin Hey, that would help cauterize them wounds!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's how I survived long enough to get my arm broken!
 
isn't it called using callbacks in C ? simply ?
 
I find assembly less painful than C
I did an answer thingy
With standard quote
Upboat me
 
@CatPlusPlus O realy?
 
with a minimum effort the functions used can be pure if they only work on their input...
 
4:29 PM
@CatPlusPlus Apparently you've never written assembly for a SPARC or MIPS (or, God help you, an AT&T DSP).
 
I did in fact write MIPS assembly
 
and voilà !
 
@CatPlusPlus ...and you find that less painful than C? My, you are a masochist aren't you!
 
Macros
 
@StephaneRolland Oui.
@CatPlusPlus Micro!
 
4:31 PM
@StephaneRolland Shouldn't that be "et voilà!"?
 
@JerryCoffin He probably felt unsure about French language policies in the Lounge.
 
Not that I'd write anything in assembly
But I wouldn't in C even more so there's that
 
@CatPlusPlus I did some SPARC. I still prefer C.
 
@JerryCoffin yes but as I'm translating it back to english so I made a mistake
 
@StephaneRolland Oh, okay.
 
4:32 PM
"What do you prefer to gouge your eyes out — a fork or a spoon?"
That's C vs assembly in a nutshell
(C++ is a spork)
 
@EtiennedeMartel I don't know about the french language policies here, don't think I have seen them on "the rules" AFAIR
 
@StephaneRolland Protip: il n'y en a pas. C'est généralement "vas-y comme tu le penses et espère que ça te chie pas dans les mains."
 
The rule: no gibberish
- signed, king of the Lounge
 
@CatPlusPlus Oh, just learn French.
 
@CatPlusPlus I never signed that.
 
4:35 PM
@CatPlusPlus And yesterday we saw that the Robot had more stars than you.
 
@CatPlusPlus erm, I'm The King, around here.
 
@R.M @Tony aahahaha you both crazy
 
AFAIC, the closest thing we have to a "king" is @R.MartinhoFernandes, not you.
 
@CatPlusPlus Where "gibberish" = "Polish"
 
Everything that's not English
 
4:36 PM
lol
 
@EtiennedeMartel I did not star that!
 
Treason
 
@CatPlusPlus Pretender!
 
Still, @CatPlusPlus, you're way too prone to dealing in absolutes, and we all know only the Sith deal in absolutes. I guess that means you're evil. And a king cannot be evil.
 
Ahahaha what
 
4:37 PM
@EtiennedeMartel espère que ça te chie pas dans les mains lol
Yeah @CatPlusPlus is a sith.
 
We cannot have a king whose life is miserable.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ...or at least who lets the misery of his life affect his outlook on our lives.
 
OMG, Cat, your GSQ has a ligature.
 
greetings everybody.
 
@Chimera We're busy taking turns to shit on the cat.
 
4:41 PM
@EtiennedeMartel oh ok
 
It looks fugly with this font.
 
Ell
electronics is difficult :(
 
@CatPlusPlus Not there! Use the fucking litter box!
 
I shat on the Cat already, earlier today
 
@EtiennedeMartel Hmm...I know my French is pretty lousy, but from what you said earlier, I thought the shit was on our hands (or was it our hand turning to shit?) Oh, maybe the shit got on our hands, then we petted the cat?
 
4:43 PM
@kbok where u find that?
 
That Dune II game sure takes forever to load.
 
I wish I could downvote chat messages, BS like "assembly less painful than C".
 
ok, I'm not responsible for the consequences of having left that here
 
My french is really polite and I would not say that :-)
 
4:44 PM
@JerryCoffin When something "shits in your hands", it's essentially means it fucked up.
Shitting on the cat is unrelated.
 
@cat left now, I guess he doesn't want all the poop
 
@EtiennedeMartel Well, you can't blame me for trying, can you?
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf twitter
 
@JerryCoffin Oh trust me, we can blame you for whatever we want! :-)
 
@TonyTheLion Big cat comes, little cat leaves.
 
4:46 PM
@JerryCoffin Actually, great job.
 
@Chimera Hmm...I guess I should be accustomed to that by now... :-)
 
@JerryCoffin yeah.... :-)
 
Bad title of the day:
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Q: C code doesn't work

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^ Worst cover ever?
 
4:49 PM
 
eyes ... burn ...
 
Damn wikipedia! I'd rather see adds than the incessant begging for donations!
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Oh, you homophobic you.
 
oh. i though it was jim carrey
 
Gaylords = Happy Lords
And traditionally a "fag" is a cigarette.
 
4:52 PM
@FredOverflow That looks like Eric Foreman from That 70s Show
 
I'm gonna nominate: Every album with a picture of Joni Mitchell on the cover.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXeUvDOMgGY
This song is a good parable for what is happening in the world today in the social political realms.
 
lol @ fist output :) — FredOverflow 8 secs ago
 
@Chimera Didn't you just post that yesterday?
 
5:03 PM
@JerryCoffin He did post some Rush songs yesterday.
 
@JerryCoffin The song yes, but not the comment. And the video I posted yesterday of this song didn't have the lyrics. I thought about the lyrics and realized they are a metaphor for exactly what is happening today.
Especially in the US.
 
Am I newsblind again, or are you referring to some trend from past months/years/whatever?
(Disclaimer: I did not look at the video)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The song is talking about trees complaining that other trees are blocking them from sunlight. So the trees complain and in the end every tree is made equal by hatchet axe and saw.
That speaks to me about wealth redistribution that is being attempted in the US right now with our socialist leaning president.
 
Ah, ok. I thought that something had happened today (as in 30.11.2012), and I had missed it.
 
The message of the song is really quite powerful.
 
Xeo
5:08 PM
robot... my sources don't have Python 2.7. :(
 
Xeo
Either 2.5, 2.6, 3.0 or 3.1
:|
 
2.6 probably works.
 
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Q: Hard Core Core Java expert! Was wondering if it makes sense to switch to Objective C and Cocoa

Deven KalraI am very confident in Core Java. Should I stick to it and learn J2EE,Struts,Spring,Hibernate or I was wondering if I could switch to Objective C and Cocoa because I am .. well I have my reasons.

^^ hahaha
 
Well I thought my commentary on the trees was profound. :-)
 
5:11 PM
@Mysticial What the hell is "Core Java"?
 
@EtiennedeMartel base classes minus extension classes?
 
@Chimera Maybe it's just that I never "got" them or something, but it strikes me like most Rush. Seems to me like they had very little to say, and no good idea of how to say what little they did.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Hardcore Java
 
@FredOverflow Thank you (for the edit, I mean).
 
@JerryCoffin Oh wow! I've listened to much of their stuff, they have a lot to say in my opinion.
 
5:13 PM
> In the preface, the author states that the goal of this book is to transform a developer from the intermediate level to a true guru. In the back cover it even promises that "you'll master the art of writing error-prone (sic!) code", and the reference to "error-prone code" sadly finds its confirmation once one starts reading.
 
Why is Cat laughing starred 4 times?
 
What. A. Failure.
 
@Neil Because of functional programming in C.
 
@FredOverflow Seriously, what is that.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Where do I change from g++ to clang++? :P
 
5:13 PM
I'm not going to star anything I can compact into something 3 bytes long
 
@Xeo Does CXX=g++ blah blah normal command work?
 
Xeo
nope
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "master the art of writing error-prone (sic!) code", omg lol
 
@Xeo Lemme look, then.
 
@Neil Because otherwise he might get sad.
 
5:15 PM
@EtiennedeMartel ಥ_ಥ
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Assuming you're talking in a makefile, would you want CXX=clang++?
 
Oh, right.
 
Virgin Media = fucking bastards
 
Ell
hmm I want to write raw bytes to a sound driver, I'm on linux so I guess it shouldn't be too hard
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That scan of the backcover says "error proof".
 
Xeo
5:17 PM
Yes, I did use CXX=clang++, just as an FYI. :P
 
Ell
has anyone done something like this before?
 
@Xeo This SConstruct should work. I will try to support it directly later. pastie.org/5459078
 
@KonradRudolph Worse -- non-fucking bastards (or, as the man said: "To all you virgins out there: thanks for nothing!)
 
called again to cancel, armed with quotes from the contract
 
I have tried the shipping version of CLang within Ubuntu12.04 but it doesnt mix well with the Boost in Ubuntu... so I still haven't really tried clang :-(
 
5:18 PM
Was asked why I was cancelling so I told them it was b/c of raised fee. The lady at the other end then wanted to try sell me some other contract
 
@EtiennedeMartel Well, then I guess the reviewer read that wrong.
 
I declined, and, to get her to stop talking, I said I wasn't interested, I wasn't using it that much anyway
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah. It kinda kills the joke, ain't it?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Probably something that got fixed in a later printing.
 
she then proceeded to tell me the cancellation fee (125 GBP) and when I replied by quoting the contract to her which said that a raise of the price meant I can cancel without fee, she was totally surprised: “what, you said you were cancelling because you weren't using it!”
 
Xeo
5:20 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes You probably have boost directly in your include paths, huh?
 
@KonradRudolph Hey, they're trained to make sure you never cancel.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Actually, I am inclined to agree the typo existed, because there are more reviewers claiming it.
 
@KonradRudolph Sounds like pretty standard procedure to me.
 
@EtiennedeMartel That’s attempted fraud, it's that simple
 
@KonradRudolph Did you record the conversation? (can you legally?)
 
5:21 PM
@Xeo Yes. Why wouldn't I?
 
@KonradRudolph I don't think attempting it is illegal.
 
Xeo
Hm... damn, which library do you rely on exactly?
 
@JerryCoffin legally? no idea. technically? no, my landline phone is ancient and I don't have equipment
 
Range, Iterator, and maybe something else.
 
@EtiennedeMartel attempted fraud isn't illegal?
 
5:22 PM
@KonradRudolph Oh well, so much for that.
 
Why? Your distro no boost?
WTF.
 
@KonradRudolph I don't know. I'm just guessing here.
 
@KonradRudolph I don't know UK law, but I'd guess it is.
 
Xeo
I didn't apt-get install boost, I just built some libs from my external HDD that is mounted in the vbox
 
Holy crap, since when did 120GB SSDs drop under $100?
 
Xeo
5:23 PM
@Mysticial 66eur at our local hardware store.
For a 128GB SanDisk
 
Damn... I might actually get one.
 
@Mysticial it's been a long time. you can even get 256 for ~140€ these days
 
Xeo
Aye
@R.MartinhoFernandes So, which one?
 
well, have a nice week end !
 
@StephaneRolland Damned edit -- ruined my joke before I could type it. Well, you have a miserable weekend, knowing you ruined my fun!
 
Ell
5:25 PM
hmm. Bacon omlette? yes or no?
 
@Ell Yes.
 
Ell
I'll get too it then :P
 
@Xeo Range and Iterator.
Oh, and the tribool one.
 
Xeo
Ah, so no compiled ones.
That's all I needed to know. :P
 
No, all header-only.
 
5:28 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes What
 
Xeo
> fatal error: 'ucd/age.g.inl' file not found
~.~
 
Y U NO READ INSTRUCTIONS?
 
@Xeo Aren't you supposed to generate those?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Are you seriously asking someone to read instructions?
 
Xeo
5:29 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Lazy. I think I read them earlier. But I maybe forgot.
 
Lazyassitis. A terrible disease.
 
@EtiennedeMartel But I do :/
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You know how they say "shit happens"? Well, I guess we could go with @Xeo happens.
 
I think I'm going to call it a week and go home now.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Later.
 
Xeo
5:34 PM
Alright, finished.
 
Is there any good library that allows this kind of function composition.
Or is a library not really needed since it doesn't seem to involve much code.
Phoenix seems to enable this. I'm not sure if Phoenix uses type-erasure..
 
Xeo
std::bind(f, std::bind(g, _1))
IIRC
 
I've used that a lot in the past.
 
Xeo
And C++Next [](auto x){ return f(g(x)); }
Anyways, afk!
Robot, you'll get your .a later
 
std::function has type-safety and type-erasure. Which are both useful.
But I am curious about solutions that do not apply type erasure.
 
5:44 PM
@StackedCrooked template functions? template<class T> thing(T functionoid)?
 
Probably phoenix does what I want.
Can you elaborate?
 
Probably not, I just saw the last two things you typed, looking at the link now
 
Dammit this song sticks in my head.
 
heh, I'd half written out the Composition class before I scrolled enough to see it
and by half I mean more than half
theirs is better though
@StackedCrooked it mentions that GCC has those. Also they're like 20 lines. Copy paste.
 
5:59 PM
@StackedCrooked Blogspot told me some links came from here. The code in that article is based on my library that does just that! But the thing is that composition is so specialized that except for common cases, you're best off writing a unique composition type for each necessity.
 

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