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12:05 AM
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Q: Do antivirus vendors write viruses for profit?

SklivvzI think this forum post sums it up nicely: I think that anti virus companies [...] are the ones who develop most of the viruses on the market today. If you think about it, it does make sence because in order to make a good product, you need to make something that wears out or needs to be refi...

 
that was off of reddit
 
I don't think they need to. There's plenty virus in the wild.
 
There's a skeptics.se?
 
I don't believe it!
 
@Rapptz yep
and one of us is a moderator there
 
12:07 AM
No. it does not make sense. It is not possible without it leaking. The US executive branch could not even keep a break-in secret, and that was before the net.
 
@StackedCrooked Yes, and the police employs all the criminals, It's just good business. Super simple stuff.
 
And the docters contaminate the rivers in their free time.
 
Must be a bitch to search on Math.SE with all the latex
 
Watch out for those ER doctors.
 
My boss name is de cock, it's pronounced similar to "da cock". It's a little embarrasing when he has to introduce himself to English speaking people.
 
12:10 AM
@Mysticial Konrad?
 
@sehe yeah
 
yay for useless trivia!
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Raptors! [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq] [nonsense]
 
I'm curious what kinds of questions would fly at skeptics (not a subscriber).
 
@CaptainGiraffe inb4 another Ryanair joke
 
2
Q: Can a man fall faster than the speed of sound?

Carlo_R.I have heard that a man can fall faster than the speed of sound by jumping from 36,000 meters; a free fall that, it seems, lasts ten minutes after the jump. Is it true?

 
12:14 AM
I guess the god is covered in the FAQ.
 
The number 1 question is:
225
Q: Does torture work well as an interrogation technique?

David ThornleyI have friends who say that torture is a useful means of getting information out of people, and friends who don't, and both stands seem supported by some authorities. I am also aware that there are ways of interrogating people that are claimed to work to some extent that don't involve torture. ...

Dear lord. They're a bunch of psychos.
 
@StackedCrooked They're just more upfront about it
9 hours ago, by Martin James
'basic multilingual plane' - sounds like time for another Ryanair joke.
 
@sehe lored de mar, I forgot what it means, I only remember the words
 
I don't get what skeptics is about
 
@Rapptz It's about curious people who can't be bothered to think straight. Hohum?
 
12:15 AM
@Rapptz It's about asking questions that you can't ask anywhere else because everyone has taken an answer for granted.
 
From theses two samples, I'd say - I'm curious if this is true.
 
@Rapptz AFAIK, if he's in geosynchronous orbit, he's already falling faster than the speed of sound.
 
Oh that said speed of sound, I read it as speed of light and considered it a retarded question.
 
@Rapptz The emotion is: everyone says so, but, is it really true?. One of the questions is for example: Is popping your knuckles bad for you?
 
@MartinJames You know, define 'falling'. Speeds are relative
 
12:17 AM
Yep and 36.000 meters is a helluva distance =) I'd say yes.
 
@StackedCrooked No it isn't.
 
@sehe Accelerating towards the centre of the planet.
 
@Rapptz What isn't?
 
@StackedCrooked Lemme try.... nope
 
Crack Er..
 
12:18 AM
It isn't bad to crack your knuckles, it's just some old ass myth started by people with no medical basis.
There was a man who published a paper after cracking only one of his hand's knuckles for 60 years and nothing happened to him.
 
I read Horowitz did it, and thats the basis for the Seinfeld joke.
 
@MartinJames I would have the same definition. Then, orbit would not mean 'falling faster than the speed of sound'
@Rapptz a-n-e-c-d-o-t-a-l e-v-i-d-e-n-c-e
 
Are singletons really bad? I'm skeptic!
 
@CaptainGiraffe That's a large family. Only few of them play the piano. There's a reason for that
@Rapptz anecdotal hyperlinking :)
 
12:22 AM
@sehe Meh - OK, maybe I'm wrong. It has been known:)
 
:)
 
@sehe Acceleration<>Velocity<>Speed, OK, so I'm pissed, again.
 
Speed -> Velocity -> Acceleration -> Jerk
 
@MartinJames And to finish the mix, there is no sound (as we know it) in space
 
I gotta go, anyway. The stupid dog is making odd squeaking noises outside office door - he wants my pizza crusts.
 
12:26 AM
@sehe Why would that matter if the fall is only 36000 meters?
 
@Rapptz scrawl up
 
1:01 AM
Well, I'm going to bed. You guys are boring :0
 
 
1 hour later…
Xeo
2:07 AM
Dammit, we really need a way to refer to parameter packs as "types" themselves.
Hm, do we have a on the indices trick specifically? There were many question that required it recently. Wouldn't mind writing one. "How can I expand variadic template arguments and an array in lockstep?" /cc @R.Martinho, @LucDanton
 
I have to admit I have come to love seeing nothing when compiling python modules xD
 
Damn, it's up to the point that when MSVC11 supports a C++11 feature, I'm genuinely impressed.
I wrote a enum class the other day, and it compiled.
 
Xeo
Yep, that's one of the things that's supported.
It was already partly in VC10, IIRC
 
hey is anyone familiar with theos
or developing for jailbroken phones?
 
2:26 AM
@Fridiculous Hi, you seem like a newcomer here. Have you read the rules?
 
2:52 AM
@EtiennedeMartel thanks for point them out. what specifically did i do wrong?
 
@Fridiculous Nothing, but you still have to read them.
 
hi guys
 
Xeo
Woah @Maxpm, long time no see here.
 
is it allowed to ask for help here?
 
Xeo
As is often the answer in C++, it depends. ;)
 
3:01 AM
I need some remote assistance to compile a C++ project in vs 2010
 
If it's interesting, you might get an answer. If it isn't, you'll just get ignored.
 
if someone could help me would be nice :)
 
Xeo
Did you search SO first?
 
I thought it was Mohammed based on his gravatar.
Where has that guy been anyway?
 
yes I did
I need to convert a C++ console project to a SubSystem:Windows Project
but I fail at the beginning
 
3:04 AM
Can't you just change it?
 
I did
but I have problem with the entry point
I also don't know much about C/C++
 
Xeo
A windows project has WinMain
 
just a little
 
Xeo
check MSDN
 
I do have WinMain
 
Xeo
3:05 AM
What's the exact problem?
 
Oh hey, I just discovered this query:
 
@Xeo I can show you the code in TeamViewer if you want.
I think my problem is very minor for a good C++ programer
but I don't know if I should call return _my_main(argc, argv, envp); or return _my_wmain(argc, argv, envp);
 
This might sound stupid but why can't you just make a new project?
 
cause the source tree is too complicated?!
It's a lot of code and everything is already linked etc.
 
And you decided after all that, "Fuck it, I want to change the subsystem"? Just weird, I guess.
 
3:10 AM
I didn't write the code
it is open source
 
Xeo
@BenjaminWeiss Don't you have the #ifdef stuff for that?
 
lol
 
@Xeo I do but I don't know how to handle all this
@Rapptz lol
 
Xeo
Well, I don't know your requirements.
 
3:12 AM
He edited it.
 
Xeo
"no lol pls..."
^lol
 
"guys how to get 20 reputation??no lol pls...."
Holy fuck he's in chat.
 
Xeo
Just nuke it.
 
The last one, @WifuWifu
 
Xeo
Nvm, too late.
 
3:14 AM
I was going to flag it but I'm not sure what to flag it as
 
mod-hammered right after I voted
 
anyways would/could someone help me?
if not it's ok
 
The description for spam says it has to be advertisements.
 
@Rapptz It's "not an answer"
but it's deleted already
 
Yeah I know but I feel weird calling a moderator.
 
Xeo
3:15 AM
Well, if 3 peeps delete it, the flags get automatically validated
 
deleted by Xeo, Mysticial, Michael Myers♦ 55 secs ago
 
Xeo
So it's basically free flag weight
 
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@BenjaminWeiss ?
 
PW: 6271
 
3:16 AM
what
 
Xeo
That's a weird version of "Meyers"
@Rapptz TeamViewer, I guess
@Benjamin sorry, can't help with that.
 
I hate TeamViewer . I'm glad I uninstalled, it's so boggy.
 
Xeo
It's nice for quickly fixing some software problem of a friend
 
I used to do that.
 
3:19 AM
I can't help.
 
k np
thank you tho
 
Google is scaring me. I didn't even look up TeamViewer.
 
Xeo
LOL
 
I give up
thanks for help tho
 
Hi all, has anyone ever worked with caches?
 
3:30 AM
I think everyone has messed around with them at one point.
 
I am trying to calculate throughput (MBytes/sec) of a cache by writing a program that copies an array A to an array B, repeated multiple times, and using that to measure the throughput
I am using L2 cache on my system
 
@AmberArroway Those kind of benchmarks are very difficult to do properly. Trust me.
 
@Mysticial Yeah I am aware so I found some information online, took me a while
I have some C code written
 
U use GetTickCount?
 
I am using memcpy() from string.h to copy the arrays, initialise both arrays with some values (e.g. random numbers using rand()), and repeat at least 100 times, otherwise you do not see a difference. The array size and number of repeats will be input parameters.
So for example, the program should pretty much be able to calculate the throughput using that:
array size throughput
256 KB 2345.45 MByte/sec
 
3:34 AM
memcpy() in all the compilers that I've seen is not capable of achieving max bandwidth.
 
array size: 256kb and throughput = 2345.45 Mbytes/sec
 
That's why I said it's a hard thing to measure.
You need to go even lower than memcpy().
And that's a can of worms that I don't want to get into right now.
 
Both fields fit in the L2 cache and the array size is significantly larger than the L2 cache size.
=(
atleast can you tell me how to calculate the throughput? @Mysticial
 
@AmberArroway Like I said, it's difficult. Sure you can throw together something with memcpy() and get some somewhat meaningful numbers.
 
Yeah I am just trying to do this in a basic way =(
nothing complex
 
3:39 AM
To get maximum throughput that the hardware can handle, you must dive lower. I won't go into that.
 
just using memcpy
can you atleast look at my code?
 
But in the end, that "extra" speed that you can get from going below memcpy() is not meaningful unless your application does that as well.
@AmberArroway I'm not particularly interested at the moment. Since I'm about to go to sleep.
 
ok thanks anyway
 
4:09 AM
good evening everyone :)
 
@ITNinja: It's 6:16 AM here :P. But a good morning to you too :)
 
@Zeta :)
so what is everyone up to? :)
 
Xeo
Sleeping.
Now.
6:16am here too
 
@Xeo: That reminds me: were you able to visit gamescom?
 
Xeo
Nope. :(
 
4:17 AM
:(
 
Xeo
Though, I do have a job now, pretty much!
Anyways, sweet dreams here I come. :)
 
Im just watching surfing videos on YT to hold me over until I get my new board next week.
 
4:31 AM
@Xeo Congratulations :D
 
4:59 AM
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Q: C++ Linked List Class -> header file

EricIve been working on a circular, double linked list. Decided to create a class and use a header. I'm new to C++ so i checked to see how to implement it. I'm not sure if i correctly implemented the struct node within the list. After compiling the Clist.cpp file, i received this error. (.text...

Needs 4 more close votes
 
Ell
5:14 AM
Morning all
 
Is there any concept in boost that I can use to check supplied Template Parameter inherits from a particular class ?
 
5:30 AM
@NeelBasu have you googled
@Ell good morning. here it's sunday 07:30
 
Ya seen this boost.org/doc/libs/1_51_0/libs/concept_check/reference.htm but didn't understand whats the names of concept class I need to use ?
 
well i dunno, but general experience is (1) you don't really need it, but (2) if you absolutely must, then write some small programs exploring things systematically, the scientific method
 
This new SimCity looks quite nice.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf This is first time I am going to use concepts
 
5:51 AM
@Xeo Is it that job where you start as a trainee?
 
6:08 AM
^ Repost from the C# chat, where 2 sensitive guys flagged it.
Although I can understand people getting fed up with that song.
 
Not perfectly synchronous dancing at times. For the rest I'm not complaining :)
 
6:27 AM
Whoa.
Function pointers.
And -class- member function pointers.
Hooooooolyyyyyy jesus.
C++ has no such concept of grace with these things, it looks like.
 
^ Remember that song? :)
@ThePhD Protip: pretend that they don't exist.
 
6:46 AM
@ThePhD function pointers are simple. class member function pointers break access rules so they're like goto
 
6:58 AM
^ I wondered what this "getting started" (for the new user) in Windows was
It's amazing that they're unable to present some basic info about Windows usage, without requiring a download and install of MS-specific stuff
They can't be very competent
Yesterday: Mozilla-- (can't keep up with my typing)
Today: Microsoft-- (can't even present basic info in web-page)
I also discovered that the pre-installed games that try in umpteen ways to LURE CHILDREN to use cell phone services at horrendous cost per week, were not installed by Samsung (as I thought): that stinking UNETHICAL shit was bundled with Windows 7, e.g. also on my mothers' laptop.
There was a report about an unlucky family some weeks ago. They bought a new laptop. The children thought they were playing with make-believe game money, while the enormous cell phone bills (they "have" to confirm things on the cell phone) just accumulated. It is amazing that a company like Microsoft can do such thing. I wonder if it is perhaps Norwegian resale that installs this shit on computers?
 
7:19 AM
okay i googled a bit. the games are from WildTangent, and apparently they come preinstalled on many but not all Windows 7, depending on manufacturer etc. they're adware/bloatware in a very intrusive and unethical manner, oriented towards tricking children into amassing debt that their parents have to pay
when i get rich i'm gonna get a mac
 
So mac is costly everywhere :)
 
7:34 AM
There is small store in Turkmenistan where it's really cheap.
@Cheersandhth.-Alf I don't think Microsoft would try to make a quick buck from such practices.
There's a video now.
 
Any idea why is this SIGSEGV-> double d[2000][1001] = {{1}, {1, 1}, {3, 2, 3}};
 
stackoverflow?
 
you asking me?
 
no, I telling you that your stack is probably not big enough for 16 MB
 
hmm okay
 
7:44 AM
try it with
[200][100]
 
Anyway I needed a triangle matrix, so instead of 2d array, should I use vector<vector<double>>?
 
The moon orbits the Earth in 1 month.
The Earth orbits the Sun in 1 year.
The Sun orbits the Milky Way in about 250 million years, which is about 1/54 of the alleged age of the Universe.
So, how long is one orbit of the Milky Way around the center of mass of the Local Group?
Not to mention the Local Group's orbit, how long is that?
 
Nobody knows that last part.
Since it's hard to tell the relative velocities of other galaxies.
You can get lateral velocities by doppler shift. But there's no way to get traversal velocities.
 
8:03 AM
@VinayakGarg If really need linear algebra matrix operations, then I would recommend you to use a library for that (e.g. Eigen). For a simple 2d array I would recommend using a simple std::vector<double> and write a translator function for (x,y) access. A std:.vector<std::vector> screws cache.
 
@bamboon Can't use library. 2d array on heap worked fine. And yeah I was worried about performance with vector<vector>. Translator seems nice.
Is there any better way for dividing by 2^2000, apart from a loop from 1 to 2000?
 
@VinayakGarg Return 0?
 
^^
 
I am working with double
 
That's the same as returning zero.
 
8:09 AM
and numerator is about as big as denominator
 
double doesn't even have 2^2000 range from the largest value to the smallest denormal.
 
This is not going to work, I need to rethink.
 
Sorry for the interruption.
I wonder if I should visist the sunday market or just be lazy.
Then entering "funny picture" in Gogle Image search the first image I got was this.
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Do you have ambition for becoming a sage or something of the likes? :D
I'll never be a sage. When I'm 80 years old I'll ave to tell the kiks that I slacked off from college and spent all my time gaming, doing odd jobs in between.
However, maybe there's a profound life lesson hidden in my story. Maybe I can pull it off.
^ I used to like this song.
 
8:28 AM
@StackedCrooked if it pays well?
 
Yeah you just have utter some mumblings that have a resemblance of wisdom.
But you need to be craft to get good pay.
The money doesn't come automatically. You need to first gain popularity with a segment of society.
You never ask them for money since that would severely undermine your credibility as a sage.
 
Instead you charge a lot when you are invited by university or company to give a reading.
Also if you mingle with people of higher status you will notice that they will confide personal details to you, because they think that's appropriate to do to a sage. That's when the real dollars start rolling.
Read Ron Hubbard for more details :p
 
^ I just clicked on the video with most hits.
 
My new mouse has 12 thumb buttons. I may have overdone it.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf That has a resemblance of wisdom.
Arcade Fire is really ..solid
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Wow, that clips is amazing. Thanks for posting:D
Seeing that they also feature a Destroyer video I already like [youtube.com/user/MergeRecords](MergeRecords).
 
@bamboon Oh, you're here, good. Thanks very much for linking the 500-bounty Delphi question yesteryay. I've got 105 rep off it so far:)
 
8:54 AM
@MartinJames np ;)
 
@StackedCrooked OK, I give up. Wots with the 'warning: missing terminating " character' ?
 
Well, a character is surrounded by two single quotes.
Apparently the posted code violated those rules.
 
@StackedCrooked Aarrhgghh! if<>ifdef :)
 
You are not defined?
They say everyone's an artist.
 
9:10 AM
@StackedCrooked Well, I am a bit shapeless this morning. I will never install video chat.
 
Neither shall I. I am despicable to look at.
 
aha crooked nose?
 
mawnin
 
Morning.
 
nothing interesting happened whatsoever since I was last awake, huh
 
9:23 AM
A ship was attacked by pirates.
 
meh
I might just keep on using AWS, actually
 
Dammit my new mouse has to many buttons and I keep pressing them accidentally.
 
@DeadMG StackedCrooked and I both look despicable on Sunday mornings, silly FP numbers, ridiculous mice. No much happening then, except that the global conspiracy to empty your bank accounts rumbles on..
 
Ell
@stack your house has buttons?
 
I live in an apartment. But it has some buttons, yes.
 
Ell
9:33 AM
That do what? O.o
My house has a thermostat and light switches :L
Not buttons :L
 
Soo... that's what happened then? You looked at the call buttons outside your complex and thought 'Hey - that's cool, I wish I had a mouse like that'?
 
Mawning
 
Good RRO Aring.
 
9:37 AM
right
 
1LLU
aligned type
 
now I have an EC2 instance, but I have absolutely no idea how to set it up :P
 
Arrg.s
Well that should be easy to find out.
 
Not alignment again! Not this early, please!
 
hi there
 
9:38 AM
@DeadMG whatcha gonna do with that?
 
@TonyTheLion Run my website from it.
then I might be able to make it so it isn't shit.
 
can I ask a question?
 
oh
I see
 
    /_\
≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈ it's a little boat!
 
@Elysium You just did.
 
9:40 AM
I can see there are loads of funny guys here :D
 
My artistic talent is rather limited. Sorry about that.
:p
 
Ell
@elysium no you can not, so now you're in the shit ;)
 
anyway.....I was wondering if there is a way to make a html website compatible with most of the browsers? My issue is that no matter what browser I use....something is not aligned or not placed where it should be. How do webdevelopers work this out?
Ell? where are you from?
 
@Elysium Tables.
</stacked_crooked_evil_twin>
 
shall I just put "tables html" in google? that would give me some sort of tutorial on this?
I am a newbie :P
 
Ell
9:44 AM
Nooo dont USe tables for layout
 
Dude, seriously newbie. HTML tables is the very first thing one learns on the journey of nerdhood.
 
I am using css to control the lay out
I understand now what you meant by tables....no, I never draw tables :P
 
well, now I'm RDPed into my EC2 instance
 
Ell
tables are for displaying tabular content
 
but dunno wtf to do now :P
 
9:46 AM
I'm not a web developer. I can't really give intelligent feedback.
 
thank crooked :D I just went straight for copying a tutorial from scratch. :) and now I am faced with a few problems....one is that browsers show different things.
ok, I look into this
 
Ell
You will just have to look into the inconsistencies unfortunately
 
thanks for those who could answer the questions in a normal way.
 
@DeadMG Did you pay for it?
 
Ell
Such Is the job of a web developer
 
9:51 AM
@StackedCrooked Not yet. I can run a micro instance for free for a couple months
then when I see how much usage it is, I can ask Amazon how much it will cost to keep running
 
You can put a private VCS on it.
For the rest...
I rent a VPS and I rarely make use of it. It occasionally comes in very handy
You have a public IP address. You can set up webservices all that you like.
There's a lot of potential for fun stuff to do.
I just realized that Cat == Chat in French. * Mind == Blown *
 
@StackedCrooked Gonna have to modify my DNS records to point to the EC2 instance
 
Tough luck :P
 
well, that worked
 
10:07 AM
Another step closer to greatness.
 
indeed
then all I need to do is re-direct my DNS records
all I need is 1 A record pointing to my EC2 instance's IP, right?
 
10:21 AM
I'm very not familiar with the workings of DNS.
 
well, as long as you can still access the website, thenit should be working
since I deleted my S3 bucket
 
10:36 AM
If you want to position widgets in HTML. Do you use relative position and distances expressed in %?
Lol, it is the first time that I am actually doing non-trivial HTMLish something in my life.
 
@StackedCrooked I hate non trivial HTML. It's hard and annoying if you want cross browser compatibility
 
how strange
I must have just named that file wrongly
 
so if I get your tutorials correctly then std::string is bad and it should feel bad.
 

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