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10:00 PM
@melak47 Yep.
 
@Mysticial @R.MartinhoFernandes ohh, I thought this was C++.
 
user406009
Wow, those standard library writers think of everything. ideone.com/5pGyO
 
And (-2)! is even more infinity than (-1)!.
 
But that is kind of an "extension". The usual definition of factorial starts with 0! and does not include negative numbers.
 
translation party stopped working
 
10:01 PM
@DeadCicada you probably just got banned from bing or something :)
 
@DeadCicada You broke it!
 
Yeah my IP got banned
 
From VPN it does work
 
@DeadCicada hahaha
 
10:02 PM
@MooingDuck mathematically 1/0 is just a weird thing, whereas 0/0 is truly mathematically UB, so to speak.
 
@DeadCicada lol
 
guess even bing's generosity has limits
 
user406009
I think I found the longest chain(45 steps): translationparty.com/#10528664
 
Seems I got banned too.
 
@Lalaland it didn't even abort because it got too long. bleh :p
someone care to guess what input produces "Debugger, it is Thanksgiving Day!"
 
10:04 PM
lol
The current topic?
 
correct
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Debugger, it is Thanksgiving Day! [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
Banned from translation party?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
@Mysticial Bing Translate. It's rate limited.
 
10:05 PM
oh
lol
4
Q: Why does sleeping between iterations causes operations in a loop to take longer than the case where it does not sleep

jsiqueiraThe attached program (see at the end), when executed, yields the following output: .......... with sleep time of 0ms times= [1, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1, 0] average= 0.7 .......... with sleep time of 2000ms times= [2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2] average= 1.9 In both cases the exact same c...

^^ dat title... um...
 
@Mysticial wait, I read that backwards
 
"Doctor, it hurts when I do this."
 
sleep is seriously overused.
 
That's why I generally hibernate
 
10:08 PM
@Mysticial ordinarily, I would agree...but his measurements don't count the sleeping time into it as far as I can see?
 
sbi
@MooingDuck peels ton seod ti erehw esac eht naht regnol...?
 
@DeadCicada Bugs don't hibernate, they just die.
 
You wish.
 
@melak47 Which is why the title is misleading.
 
@Mysticial it's only misleading if you read it assuming he's a total fool :)
 
10:08 PM
@melak47 oh, I missed that
 
Honest question: what is sleep() actually useful for?
 
@melak47 The upvotes gave it away that it was a real question.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes figures a robot wouldn't know
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Only a robot could ask this. (Think "recharge".)
 
But the the title still provokes a double-take.
 
10:09 PM
@Cheersandhth.-Alf noooo
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes As a bad reschedule
 
I was reading it
 
@kbok what?
At the World Women's Conference, the first speaker from England stood up:
"At last year's conference we spoke about being more assertive with our husbands. Well after the conference I went home and told my husband that I would no longer cook for him and that he would have to do it himself. After the first day I saw nothing. After the second day I saw nothing. But after the third day I saw that he had cooked a wonderful roast lamb."

The crowd cheered.
The second speaker from America stood up:
"After last year's conference I went home and told my husband that I would no longer do his laundry
 
@DeadCicada You mean like pthread_yield?
 
I was reading the italian joke
 
10:10 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes that
 
@sbi Dammit, I meant the function.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, I had no idea...
Anyway, it's off to bed for me.
 
Dammit. Got trolled again.
 
@sbi Good night.
 
10:11 PM
@sbi G'night.
 
I'm not sure I get it
It's about italian people beating their wives ? Is that supposed to be funny ? :/
 
@Mysticial haha, I put that title in translationparty, and it actually reduced it in size :)
"Loop is given again here."
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf I think Russian jokes are funnier.
 
10:16 PM
HEAVEN is where:
The police are British
The chefs Italian
The mechanics are German
The lovers are French
and it's all organised by the Swiss

HELL is where:
The police are German
The chefs are British
The mechanics are French
The lovers are Swiss
and it's all organised by the Italians!!
 
translationparty also works if you start with a japanese phrase
 
I don't know Japanese, so.
 
hmm, radio is freaking out. keeps randomly restarting this song
 
I suppose it is endlessly more funny if you know both languages, though.
 
10:23 PM
今日は
 
Ordered the DVD... can't wait to watch it.
 
That's a thing?
 
It's a documentary about Obama's life.
 
Wow, such a dirty word!
 
@Chimera Oh. I think I'd find that rather boring, but ok.
@DeadCicada lolwut.
 
Ell
do people always design the API before they write the implementation?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It'
 
@Ell I often do.
 
meh... you play with that site since yesterday, aren't you done with it, kiddy animals?
 
10:29 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's supposed to be somewhat controversial... so I'm up for it.
 
Ell
ik just thinking, how do different people work on different parts of a new project?
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf It's only NSFW if your boss cannot glance at your monitor. If he needs to come close and read, it's SFW.
 
Ell
if there's one part of programming that i don't know about most its how its actually managed in real life. how is source control, bug trackers etc. controlled. build servers, different people working on different code etc.
 
@Chimera I also suppose it gets a lot more interest that side of the pond.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That would be my guess.
This one isn't even close.
 
Ell
10:31 PM
I don't know how to find out about this stuff either :o
 
How long is the woodchuck.
 
Translation nailed that one huh?
 
Ell
I don't understand this one "Q: What's the difference between a British man and his girlfriend?
A: His girlfriend has a higher sperm count."
 
It means British men are effeminate.
 
@Ell uh, eh, even a british woman is more of a man than a british man? I guess
 
10:33 PM
@Ell You Brits are pussies.
 
Ell
oh right haha
never knew that was a stereo type of us
 
What do you call someone who speaks three languages?
"Multilingual".

What do you call someone who speaks two languages?
"Bilingual".

What do you call someone who speaks one language?
"An American".
 
i don't understand what got into me. suddenly i started posting jokes about nationalities and ethnic groups. huh.
 
@Chimera hehe
 
What do you call a person who professionally generates maps of the world?
A cartographer.

What do you call an academician who studies the global distribution of resources or cultural characteristics?
A geographer.

What do you call a person who is ignorant of global geography?
An American.
Only in America......do people order double cheese burgers, large fries, and a diet coke.
 
Ell
10:38 PM
the Ethiopian ones are boring
 
Only in America......do we buy hot dogs in packages of ten and buns in packages of eight.
 
I don't get that one.
 
@Ell The girl slept with many guys so there's more sperm in her body
 
Only in America......can a homeless combat veteran live in a cardboard box and a draft dodger live in the White House. (This was popular when Clinton was in office)
 
@kbok Oh, all British women are whores? Didn't think of that.
 
10:40 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's a well-known stereotype, at least in France.
 
Oh I like that European woman!
Such a fine ass.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Me neither. It's about time Anne brought in some more revenue.
 
@Chimera wasn't it george bush the younger who was draft dodger
 
@MartinJames O... k...
 
10:43 PM
i think i remember some controversy about that, involving the 60 minutes show
and a fake letter that everybody agreed was not fake, just to rescue his honor
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's really difficult to find low-energy red lights:(
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf That is a conspiracy theory... may be true. Don't know.
Clinton did manage to evade being drafted though.
 
In May 1968, Bush was commissioned into the Texas Air National Guard.[32] After two years of active-duty service while training,[33] he was assigned to Houston, flying Convair F-102s with the 147th Reconnaissance Wing out of Ellington Field Joint Reserve Base.[32][34] Critics, including former Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe, have alleged that Bush was favorably treated due to his father's political standing, citing his selection as a pilot despite his low pilot aptitude test scores and his irregular attendance.[35] In June 2005, the United States Department of Defens
From wikipedia ^
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf He volunteered for the National Guard. During the 2000 election, there were some allegations (though no actual evidence, of which I'm aware) that his dad pulled some strings to help get him in.
 
10:47 PM
Is military service mandatory in the US?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Only for those who can't afford college and dental.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's not now. At that time, there was a draft that made it mandatory if you were selected (in a lottery).
 
@MartinJames And even then you don't have to join the military.
 
@JerryCoffin Oh. That's... weird.
 
10:50 PM
@JerryCoffin I think testimony under oath counts as actual evidence
"n a written statement under oath presented on Monday, Ben Barnes, a former speaker of the Texas state legislature, said that in 1968 he asked the head of the Texan Air National Guard, General James Rose, to give the young Mr Bush a place on a pilot-training programme, automatically excusing him from the draft. "
^ From the Guardian article linked above.
 
@Chimera No. TBH, I'm not at all sure about how the National Guard works. I know it's a reserve force but, otherwise, I'd have to look it up.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes when they need more, they hold lotteries, and "winners" are drafted. Right now we have plenty though. Even during the Vietnam War, three quarters of our military was volunteer.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf It could be true.
@MartinJames The National Guard has been deployed to war.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes also, even during "a draft", only men between 18 and 26 can be drafted, and there's exemptions for various things. Full time student being the most popular.
 
I tried to join the Air Force out of high-school, but my back disqualified me.
 
10:55 PM
@Chimera I looked it up. I wish I hadn't. Maybe you have to be a US citizen to understand all this 'militia' stuff, and maybe read the Constitution a few times while sober <g>
 
@MartinJames Yeah, Americans are such war mongers.
 
they pretty much are
 
@Chimera War? I just can't understand all these state and federal militias and the laws governing them. Maybe after less wine..
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf I'd accept testimony under oath as evidence, but the testimony doesn't claim a direct connection to Bush senior, only to some friend of the family. It's possible Bush senior asked him, but he denies it, and the friend was dead by then, so nobody can ask him.
 
10:58 PM
if I became Prime Minister, I'd ditch all the Armed Forces, except the nuclear deterrent and the air force.
 
@MartinJames Heh, I'm sure most Americans don't know all of the ins and outs of the US military system.
 
I mean, who dafuq are we gonna fight with a tank anyway?
we haven't put those things to good use since WW2
 
@MartinJames National Guard is a voluntary part-time "back up military" used mainly for disaster relief and such
 
@DeadMG you should certainly keep the SAS. they've done more for world peace than many other countries entire defense forces. and to have a recruitement platform for the SAS, you need ... all the rest
 
11:00 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes LOL! I have to admit that puppy has a point - best defense we have is out island status, so the tanks are a NATO commitment, I assume.
@MooingDuck Yeah - I know they have been used in that role.
 
@DeadMG you'd need tanks in case of civil war
 
I wonder what would happen to the internet in the advent of world war 3?
 
@MooingDuck The internet is going to be WW3's battlefield.
 
what would happen to the chat?!
 
@MartinJames the fact you're an island has been irrelevant for many years
 
11:02 PM
@MooingDuck the internet, evolved from arpanet, was designed to withstand a world war 1
 
@MooingDuck In terms of nuclear weapons, yes, of course.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf correct. I was, of course, thinking of the WWW. But the internet itself also bears thinking of
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf And it was a US Military project.
 
@MartinJames or even boats and planes?
 
@MooingDuck The big difference is that (despite the name) the National Guard is actually run separately by individual states, and each state's National Guard is under control of the state's governor instead of under the federal gov't.
 
11:03 PM
@MooingDuck Boats and planes cannot take territory.
 
@MooingDuck So, you land there, now what? No resupply lanes.
 
@MartinJames they can land our tanks on your little island.
 
@LucDanton If you are french you simply plant a white flag. :-)
 
And drop your guns.
 
11:05 PM
@MooingDuck Nobody would bother. With the price of diesel here, the invaders would be broke within days <g>
 
@MartinJames more relevant: you could bring your tanks to other countries to shoot them with.
 
Wow.
That's really defensive.
 
Well, gotta go. Later all.
 
They could also just the bomb the hell out of them.
 
@MooingDuck How? On RORO ferries?
 
11:07 PM
Cya Jerry
 
@JerryCoffin 'bye..
 
@MartinJames I think your boats and planes are much larger than you realize. The US moved thousands of tanks to the other side of the planet in relatively short order.
 
@MooingDuck ..with specialized tank transport ships. The didn't even need a carrier escort.
 
2 hours ago, by sbi
@DeadMG This room. The Insect™. And @Tony.
dafuq?
I'm NSFW???
 
11:11 PM
@TonyTheLion Australia?
 
If I'm not safe for work, then my co-workers haven't realized yet.
@MartinJames what about it?
 
@TonyTheLion Oh - I read is as 'NSW'
 
I think I'm a bit pissed. I should go away soon, before sleep on keyboard.
 
yes
go and sleep
 
11:13 PM
'night all..
 
Is it possible for a struct to have a defaulted constructor and also still be able to value-construct it? Or maybe defaulting a constructor in a way that prevents value-construction?
 
meh, my host installed apache and php by default. wtf
France.
 
@MooingDuck Default on first declaration.
 
I'm going to try that again :(
 
11:26 PM
struct POD {
    POD() = default;
}; //can I value-construct this as opposed to default constructing?
//if I can, how to prevent?  If I can't, how to allow?
 
POD() value constructs by definition, iirc
but what it then does
 
I'm not sure why you would want to avoid value-init.
 
Note: I'm not certain my question makes any sense
@LucDanton also a good point
 
I suppose you can wrap the type in a non-trivial type with a default constructor that does no initialization.
Then value-init of that type is the same as default construction and does nothing.
I need to be less noisy so I guess I'm done typing tonight.
 
Mechanical keyboard?
 
11:33 PM
Not plugged in. Shitty laptop keyboard after years of (ab)use.
 
Hmmm, I think I broke my server. Stupid custom builds.
 
@LucDanton I has a delicious, and perfectly silent Illuminated Keyboard. It's awesome /cc @sbi
 
11:50 PM
lara croft
 

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